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Cistercian Studies Series #33
Dorotheos of Gaza: Discourses and Sayings


Dorotheus of GazaEric P. Wheeler (Translator)

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A shrewd observer, a master psychologist, an accomplished raconteur, Dorotheos is also a learned man with a prodigious capacity for assimilating in an organized harmony the wisdom of his precedessors in the life of the Spirit. 

Yet he is far more interested in humbly serving his brethren than in discoursing about the recondite aspects of the hescyhast experience. His genial candor makes him the ideal spiritual master to introduce modern readers to the rich spiritual universe of the deserts of Egypt, Palestine, and Syria.

GenresTheologyChristianitySpiritualityChristian



259 pages, Paperback

First published January 1, 1977

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Rick
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January 27, 2013
While many other ancient biographies of the desert fathers paint them in a picture that is oftentimes too perfect to be related to by modern readers. This collection of sayings and stories from Dorotheos of Gaza, while often miraculous in nature, also tells the story of his very human side as well. Marvelous!

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To sit a while with Dorotheos of Gaza is to be sitting under the guidance of an insightful and humane spiritual director. His observations and instructions are sharp and hit the target, but they leave behind no wound that is not ultimately beneficial, because his deep kindness and love for the Body of Christ as incarnated in the people of Christ provide the balm.

Dorotheos was introduced to me by my boss when I was looking for a writer who could help me understand the idea of what it means to be "in Christ" with others. Who better than this desert monk to explicate upon the difficulties, lessons, and deep joys of this necessary life together in Christ?

The translator, Eric Wheeler, begins with an illuminating introduction to Dorotheos that sketches, as best he is able, the known details of the saint's life. This part is not to be skipped, because it really frames and lends context to the discourses that follow.

It is kind of comforting to know that holy men of God who live apart from the world can still be so stinking full of the vices and failings of Christians in the world. Dorotheos teaches us not only how to contend with these myriad stinkers, but also how to identify our own spiritual sticking points and why it is absolutely necessary that we dwell with our brothers and sisters in peace and humility.

I underlined many ideas to revisit later, many places where I felt that Dorotheos had crossed the breach of time, culture, and language to speak God's truth directly into my soul. I made many notes in the margins, connecting his ideas with those of others, watching how God weaves the threads of truth and freedom through many voices. I enjoyed Dorotheos thoroughly and would recommend him heartily to anyone willing to, no matter how tremblingly, hold a mirror up to his soul.

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February 16, 2024
Wish I can give this book 100 stars! It’s packed with wisdom and very practical instruction on how to live according to God, how to abandon our pride and our own foolish will. It gives hope for when you fail and encouragement to stay in the fight. It is very different from what our society and culture promotes but it is the way to true peace. It is a book I will come back to over and over again due to my own stubbornness.

“Disgrace and contempt is a healing remedy against arrogance of the soul. Pray earnestly for those who as tru healer, abuse you.”

“For it is not good for us to be completely satisfied in everything.”

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timeless! very readable - a great choice for all seekers!
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January 6, 2020
Chock-full of wisdom!

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Vägledning och god mat för själen; för munken och mig.

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A pearl of the Orthodox patristic tradition. This book is excellent for catechumens and people interested in the Orthodox Church as well as those who are already baptized. St Dorotheos' teachings are part of the fundamental wisdom of the Church Fathers and as relevant today as it was in his own time. Easy to read and divided into short chapters, this book gives instructions on how to acquire humility, obedience and freedom from judging our neighbour, qualities which are absolutely necessary in order to have true love for God and our neighbour. This book can be read and re-read and re-read throughout your whole life.

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Re-reading a 6th century classic by a Palestinian monk. Maybe something will sink in this time. To whit:

"Why is the devil called not only 'enemy' but 'adversary'? He is called 'enemy' because he is a hater of men, one who hates what is good, a traitor; an 'adversary', because he always puts obstacles in the way of good. If a man wants to pray he puts obstacles in the way through evil suspicions, shameful thoughts, and spiritual torpor. If someone wants to give alms he obstructs it through avarice or procrastination. If a man wants to keep vigil he obstructs it with hesitations or laziness. In every single thing he is against us when we desire to do good."
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A wonderful and challenging devotional book with great psychological depth.

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Dorotheus of Gaza

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Dorotheus of Gaza
Anonymous painting of St. Dorotheus of Gaza, from Mount Saint Dionysius, Mount Athos, 1547
Monk and Abbot
Bornc. 505
Diedc. 565
Venerated inRoman Catholic Church; Eastern Orthodox Church
Feast18 June (Orthodox); 5 June (Roman Catholic)
InfluencesBarsanuphiusJohn the ProphetSeridus of Gaza

Dorotheus of Gaza (GreekΔωρόθεος τῆς Γάζης Dorotheos tes Gazes; 505 – 565 or 620,[1]) or Abba Dorotheus, was a Christian monk and abbot.[1]

Life

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He joined the monastery Abba Serid near Gaza through the influence of elders Barsanuphius and John. Around 540 he founded his own monastery nearby and became abbot there. It was to the monks of this monastery that he addressed his instructions/teaching (ἀσκητικά, "ascetics") of which a considerable number have survived and have been compiled into Directions on Spiritual Training, originally composed in Greek and translated in medieval Syriac, Arabic, Georgian, and Church Slavonic.[2][3] It is typical that at the heading of his teachings he announces that he offers his teaching "following the death of Abba John the Prophet and the complete silence of Abba Barsanuphius". It seems that as long his holy spiritual fathers lived he thought that he should live in obedience, keep silent and not give his own teaching. Only after the demise of one and the decision of the other not to speak did he decide to record his ascetic experiences, in order to edify the monks at the new monastery. He presents his teaching looking to one sole aim, the edification of those to whom it is addressed. He is not interested in elegance of expression or style. Thus, his words are uncontrived, clear and simple. A careful study of the teachings of Abba Dorotheus shows a strict logical structure in an intelligible and analytic manner. The matters are not approached in a theoretical way, but on the basis of everyday reality and on his monastic experience. He primarily links his teaching with the Holy Scripture and often introduces the subjects by starting from a biblical quote or passage, mainly from the Old Testament. Furthermore, he uses biblical citations from both the Old and New Testament throughout the development of his thought. In his practical teaching, Abba Dorotheus does not ignore the theology of the Church. In his thought, theology and the practical-ascetic life coexist. He certainly is not interested in giving some doctrinal teaching. Nevertheless, his practical teaching is saturated by the faith of the Church.[4]

Legacy

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Abba Dorotheus (St. Dorotheus the Hermit of Kemet) is recognized as a saint by the Eastern Orthodox Church and Roman Catholic Church and Oriental Orthodox Church[5] with his Feast Day on June 5 in the Roman Catholic Church,[6] June 18 (June 5 old style) in Churches of Eastern Orthodox tradition and August 13 in the Eastern Orthodox Church.[7]

Some instructions of Abba Dorotheus

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  • God's providence.

Do not wish for everything to be done according to your determination, but wish that it is how it should be, and in this way, you will attain peace with everyone. And believe that everything that happens to us, even the most insignificant, occurs through God's Providence. Then you will be able to endure everything that comes upon you without any agitation.

  • Yearning toward goodness.

11. Everyone that desires salvation must not only avoid evil, but is obliged to do good, just as it says in the Psalm: "Depart from evil and do good" (Psalm 34:14). For example, if somebody was angry, he must not only not get angry, but also become meek; if somebody was proud, he must not only refrain from being proud but also become humble. Thus, every passion has an opposing virtue: pride — humility, stinginess — charity, lust — chastity, faintheartedness — patience, anger — meekness, hatred — love.

  • Struggles with deficiencies.

21. Who resembles a person who satisfies his passions? He is like a person who, after being struck down with his enemy's arrows, then takes them with his hands and pierces his own heart with them. He who opposes passions is like a person that is showered with his enemy's arrows, but remains untouched because he is dressed in steel. One who has eradicated his passions, is like a person that although under a torrent of arrows, either shatters them or returns them into the hearts of his enemies — just as the Psalm states: "Their sword shall enter their own heart, and their bows shall be broken" (Psalm 37:15).

  • Guarding the conscience.

23. When God created man, He planted something divine into him — a certain conception — a spark that has both light and warmth. The conception that enlightens the mind and indicates what is right and what is wrong is called conscience. Conscience is a natural law. Living in times before any written law, patriarchs and saints pleased God by following the voice of their conscience.

  • Temperance, meekness.

24. Not only should we observe moderation with food, but we must also abstain from every other sin so that just as we fast with our stomach, we should fast with our tongue. Likewise, we should fast with our eyes i.e. not look at agitating things, not allow your eyes freedom to roam, not to look shamelessly and without fear. Similarly, arms and legs should be restrained from doing any evil acts.

27. It is impossible for anyone to get angry with his neighbor without initially raising himself above him, belittling him and then regarding himself higher than the neighbor.

  • Sorrows and God's Providence.

24. When we suffer something unpleasant from our best friend, we know that he did not do it intentionally and that he loves us. We must think likewise of God, Who created us, for our sake incarnated, and died for our sake having endured enormous suffering. We must remind ourselves that He does everything from His goodness and from His love for us. We may think that while our friend loves us, in not having sufficient good sense in order to do everything correctly, he therefore involuntarily hurt us. This cannot be said of God because He is the highest wisdom. He knows what is good for us and accordingly, directs everything for our benefit, even in the smallest things. It can also be said that although our friend loves us and is sufficiently sensible, he is powerless to help us. But this certainly cannot be said of God, because to Him everything is possible and nothing is difficult for Him. Consequently, we know that God loves us and shows clemency toward us, that He is eternally wise and omnipotent. Everything that He does, He does for our benefit, and we should accept it with gratitude as from a Benefactor, even though it may appear to be grievous.

  • Attaining spiritual peace.

29. Let us examine as to why a person sometimes gets annoyed when he hears an insult, and other times he endures it without getting agitated. What is the reason for this contrast? And is there one reason or are there several? There are several reasons, although they are all born from a main one. Sometimes it happens that after praying or completing a benevolent exercise, the person finds himself in a kind spiritual disposition and therefore, is amenable to his brother and doesn't get annoyed over his words. It also happens that a person is partial to another, and as a consequence, endures without any annoyance, everything that the individual inflicts upon him. It also happens that a person may despise the individual who wants to insult him, and therefore ignores him.

  • Humility, vile thoughts. Humility.

31. Know that if a person is oppressed by some thought and he does not confess it (to his spiritual father), he will give the thought more power to oppose and torment him. If the person confesses the oppressive thought, if he opposes and struggles with it, instilling into himself the desire for the opposite to the thought, then the passion will weaken and will eventually cease to plague him. Thus with time, in committing himself and receiving assistance from God, that person will conquer the passion itself.

  • Love towards your neighbor.

44. I heard of one person that when he came to one of his friends and found the room in disarray and even dirty, he would say to himself: "Blessed is this person, because having deferred his concerns for earthly cares, he has concentrated his mind that much toward Heaven, that he doesn’t even have time to tidy up his room." But when he came to another friend's place and found his room tidy and neat, he would say to himself; "The soul of this person is as clean as his room, and the condition of the room speaks of his soul." And he never judged another that he was negligent or proud, but through his kind disposition, saw good in everyone and received benefits from everyone. May the good Lord grant us the same kind disposition, so that we too may receive benefits from everyone and so that we never notice the failings of others.[1]

아바 도로테우스의 몇 가지 지시 사항[편집]

신의 섭리.

모든 일이 여러분의 결심대로 이루어지길 바라지 말고, 그렇게 되기를 바라고, 그렇게 함으로써 여러분은 모두와 평화를 이룰 수 있을 것입니다. 그리고 우리에게 일어나는 모든 일, 심지어 가장 사소한 일도 하나님의 섭리를 통해 일어난다고 믿습니다. 그러면 여러분은 여러분에게 닥치는 모든 일을 동요하지 않고 견딜 수 있을 것입니다.


선에 대한 동경.

11. 구원을 원하는 사람은 모두 악을 피해야만 할 뿐만 아니라, 시편 34:14에서 말하는 "악과 떨어져 선을 행하라"(시편 34:14)와 같이 선을 행해야 할 의무가 있습니다. 예를 들어, 만약 누군가가 화가 났다면, 그는 화를 낼 뿐만 아니라 온순해져야 하고, 만약 누군가가 자랑스러웠다면, 그는 자랑스러운 것을 삼가야 할 뿐만 아니라 겸손해져야 합니다. 따라서 모든 열정에는 자존심, 겸손, 인색, 자선, 정욕, 순결, 약삭빠른 것, 인내, 분노, 온순한 것, 증오, 사랑이 반대되는 미덕이 있습니다.


부족한 부분에 어려움을 겪습니다.

21. 누가 자신의 열정을 만족시키는 사람을 닮았겠습니까? 그는 적의 화살에 맞아 쓰러지고 나서, 그 화살을 손으로 잡고, 그 화살로 자신의 심장을 찌르는 사람과 같습니다. 열정에 반대하는 사람은 마치 적의 화살을 맞았지만, 강철 옷을 입었기 때문에 그대로 남아 있는 사람과 같습니다. 자신의 열정을 제거한 사람은, "그들의 칼은 그들 자신의 심장으로 들어갈 것이고, 그들의 활은 부러질 것이다"(시편 37:15)라는 시편이 언급한 것처럼, 비록 급류의 화살 아래에 있지만, 그들을 산산조각 내거나 그들의 원수들의 마음 속으로 돌려보내는 사람과 같습니다.


양심을 지키는 것.

23. 하나님께서 인간을 창조하실 때 그 안에 빛과 따뜻함을 동시에 지닌 신성한 것, 즉 어떤 개념을 심으셨습니다. 마음을 깨우쳐 무엇이 옳고 무엇이 그른지를 나타내는 개념을 양심이라고 합니다. 양심은 자연법입니다. 성문법 앞에 시대를 살아가면서 가장과 성인들은 양심의 목소리를 따라 하나님을 기쁘게 했습니다.


절제, 온순함.

24. 음식으로 절제를 지켜야 할 뿐만 아니라, 배로 금식하듯이, 혀로 금식을 해야 합니다. 마찬가지로, 우리는 눈으로 금식해야 합니다. 즉, 자극하는 것을 바라보지 말아야 하며, 당신의 눈이 자유롭게 돌아다닐 수 있도록 해서는 안 되며, 뻔뻔하고 두려움 없이 바라보지 않아야 합니다. 마찬가지로, 팔과 다리는 어떠한 악행도 금식해야 합니다.


27. 처음에는 이웃보다 위에서 몸을 일으켜서 그를 업신여기고 그 다음에는 이웃보다 자신을 높이 평가하지 않고는 그 누구도 이웃에게 화를 낼 수 없습니다.


슬픔과 신의 섭리.





Dorotheus and Dositheus

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Dositheus was a disciple of Dorotheus and himself considered a Saint. The story is that as a young man Dositheus, an army page,[8] lead a wild and dissolute life.[9] He became curious, however, after hearing numerous stories about the city of Jerusalem and made a journey there about 520-525AD. It was at Golgotha that an unknown woman who turned out to be Virgin Mary struck up a conversation with him about eternal torments in hell,[10] [11] which led to his converting from paganism to Christianity. He became a monk at Gaza under the supervision of Dorotheus, who had a long and steady struggle to teach Dositheus discipline.[12] Dorotheus was criticized by many of the monastery for his lax disciple.

Dositheus was noted, however, for his humility, self-denial and gentle and supportive ways with the sick.[13] and he worked in the infirmary.[14] It was probably here that he contracted tuberculosis or a similar condition.[15]

He died about 530AD, five years after becoming a monk[9] As he lay dying Dositheus begged Dorotheus to "pray for an early release from his sufferings". Dorotheus answered, "Have a little patience. God's mercy is near." Soon after he said to him, "Depart in peace and appear in joy before the blessed Trinity, and pray for us".[14] After his death, Dorotheus declared that Dositheus had surpassed the rest (of his disciples) in virtue without the practice of any extraordinary austerity. Dositheus was Canonized, he is the patron saint of respiratory diseases and his Feast day is February 23.

See also

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References

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  1. Jump up to:a b c "Abba Dorotheus". Orthodox Photos.
  2. ^ Kazhdan, Alexander P., ed. (1991). "Dorotheos of Gaza". The Oxford dictionary of Byzantium. Oxford University Press. p. 654. ISBN 0-19-504652-8.
  3. ^ Abba Dorotheus. Ascetic Writings. Introduction, text, translation, comments and tables (in Greek). Editor Holy Monastery of St. John the Forerunner, Careas - Athens 1983.
  4. ^ See Constantine B. Scouteris, Abba Dorotheos. Practical Teaching on the Christian Life (Translation, Introduction and Glossary), Athens 2000 (pp. 374), pp. 30-39 (ISBN 960-91014-1-0).
  5. ^ Herbermann, Charles, ed. (1913). "Gaza" Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton Company.
  6. ^ Dorotheus the Archimandrite, Abbot (PC), Saint of the day, Saint Patrick Catholic Church, Washington, D.C.
  7. ^ "Преподобный Авва Дорофей", Russian Orthodox Church Calendar, "Pravoslavie.RU" (in Russian) - August 13 (Eastern Orthodox liturgics)
  8. ^ St. Dositheus at Catholiconline.org.
  9. Jump up to:a b Saint Dositheus of Gaza (C) (Monk) Archived March 4, 2016, at the Wayback Machine.
  10. ^ St. Dositheus at Catholiconline.org.
  11. ^ The story of ven. Dorotheus and Dositheus in Russian
  12. ^ Saint Dositheus of Gaza at SQPN.com.
  13. ^ Saint Dositheus of Gaza at SQPN.com.
  14. Jump up to:a b Saint Dositheus of Gaza (C) (Monk). Archived March 4, 2016, at the Wayback Machine
  15. ^ St. Dositheus at Catholic online.org.
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Danny Edwin Nicholas
5.0 out of 5 stars 6th Century Monk Speaks from the desert
Reviewed in the United States on 13 July 2010
A few Orthodox friends came by last week and we feasted on some summer treats. Eating, drinking, we talked for two hours over this old book. We'd landed on Dorotheos of Gaza, Discourses and Sayings (1977 Cisterian publication; 2008, OSB) for our Orthodox Book Club reading. Great choice.

I found the Discourses and Sayings similar to The Ladder of Divine Ascent, written from the desert just one generation later, St. John Climacus having died in 603. Archimandrite Dorotheos was born between 506 to 508 and evidently died between 560 and 580 amidst the rise of Islam and the Persian takeover of the holy land. His tomb and the ruins of his monastery are lost to us in the sands of the desert not far from Gaza, which is still making news to this day.

As we know, when Christianity was made easy and legal in the third century, many spiritual athletes made way for the desert to make it tough again, to work on their souls: the monk Antony in 271; then Pachomius in 320; all this until the death of Arsenius in 450. We later saw the community type monastery--the cenobium--the one here was started by Seridos, Barsanufius and John. Dorotheos came from this line, lesser known however than contemporary Barsanufius. Ordinary Christian folk might find a cenobium type monk more approachable than a hermit type, yet we no doubt need both for the health of the church.

Dorotheos was a people person monk. He was, for a time, in charge of the guest house. He mixed it up there with ordinary folk so much so that evidently when his feet hurt--which he speaks of in a meditation on the fruits of the fear of punishment and having to revisit your sins after death--he seems to attribute this physical pain to excessive guest house partying over shared meals. Nice.

Other Dorotheos themes: friendship skills, diet and portion size and dealing with the passions, humility, learning to take advice, care of the soul, guarding your tongue while rating out your brother (for his salvation of course), dealing with your own falsehood, the bad taste of bad religion ("a bad man does evil when he mixes it with righteousness"), sobriety and vigilance, the price of living near vs. distant from God, dealing with your own bitterness and disappointments. For an old book, approachable themes!

Yes, Dorotheos did some of his important spiritual training serving in that guest house. He loved his friend monks as well as his strangers who came for retreat. I found him warm and a good teacher. He admonishes, for example, that the solitude of a monk's cell should lift a man up and the company of men, brothers, friends, (spouses?) should test the man, too.

I loved what he had to say about living, being close and near as opposed to far and separate; to God, self, others:

"To the degree that the saints enter into the things of the spirit, they desire to come near to God; and in proportion to their progress in the things of the spirit, they do in fact come close to God and to their neighbor. The closer they are to God, the closer they become to one another; and the closer they are to one another, the closer they become to God."

Yes, read this book next Lent. Or before. I've added him to my list of favorite spiritual advisers. Pray for us father Dorotheos.
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Dorothy Moss
5.0 out of 5 stars He assures me that it was an excellent read and full of details he was unaware of
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 1 July 2015
A gift for my husband. He assures me that it was an excellent read and full of details he was unaware of.
One very happy husband.
OCTAVIAN
5.0 out of 5 stars Very good
Reviewed in the United States on 18 January 2023
Very good and fast shipping
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Rick Mathis
5.0 out of 5 stars Life changing!
Reviewed in the United States on 30 December 2010
Whether you a from the Eastern or Western church, within these pages you will find a treasure trove of truly life altering wisdom. I came to this book unfamiliar with Dorotheos' writings, but since beginning a serious study of early Christian writings, I had seen his name mentioned in the commentaries from other authors. That, along with the sparkling reviews of this book finally convinced me to order it. I am so glad that I did!
The book is broken down in a way that allows for unhurried reading of the text. This is wonderful due to the fact that you will probably find yourself wanting to fully absorb every word. Yes, it's THAT good!!!
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5.0 out of 5 stars Highly Recommended
Reviewed in the United States on 28 March 2016
Book arrived swiftly and in excellent condition. I was thoroughly impressed by this book and very moved by it. The things written by St. Dorotheos, though written to his fellow monks 1500 years ago, could easily have been written for a sermon preached in any Christian church this Sunday. I would highly recommend this book, and its suppliers, to anyone.
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Justus
5.0 out of 5 stars Desert doctor
Reviewed in the United States on 10 October 2018
Dorotheos understood things about the human condition in the 5th century that psychiatric medicine is just now rediscovering in the past 100 or so years
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Kathleen E. Bell
5.0 out of 5 stars Great book; great man.
Reviewed in the United States on 25 October 2019
I've read this book three times, and I intend to read it again and again.
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Anthony A. Boyadjis
5.0 out of 5 stars Moral essays
Reviewed in the United States on 29 June 2009
Simply put, this work is a life altering, thought-provoking series of essays suitable for anyone of any religion seeking a discussion of topics such as humility, the need for a spiritual mentor, treating your neighbors, etc. Written in a very accessible and almost conversational style, despite the work having been done in the mid 6th century, the piece is a must for any thinking person.
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HowdyDave
5.0 out of 5 stars Very down to earth and amazingly contemporary!
Reviewed in the United States on 12 September 2012
Amazingly contemporary for a monastic who lived in the 6th Century!

This is one of the few books chosen by my Spiritual Father for our one-on-one studies along my path of asceticism.

I will have more to say after it has been properly "read, marked, learned and inwardly digested."
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5.0 out of 5 stars Research work
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