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Confucius: The Secular As Sacred (Religious Traditions of the World): Fingarette, Herbert: 9781577660101: Amazon.com: Books



Confucius: The Secular As Sacred (Religious Traditions of the World) Paperback – June 1, 1998
by Herbert Fingarette (Author)
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". . . Confucius has revitalized all our thinking about the sage. . . . [it] opens up new prospects of understanding and learning from Confucius." -- A. C. Graham, Times Literary Supplement

". . . this wonderful little . . . book has become a modern classic of Confucian interpretation." -- John M. Koller, Oriental Philosophies

"Confucius is one of the most significant philosophical books on the subject to be published in a long time." -- Henry J. Rosemont, Jr., Philosophy East and West

"In the fifty years in which I have been studying Confucius, I cannot recall that I have found the work of another scholar more stimulating than that of Professor Fingarette." -- Herrlee G. Creel, Journal of the American Academy of Religion

"With superb faithfulness to the text, Fingarette discerns the deepest meaning of the thought of Confucius and, paradoxically, its application to our own time. This is another beautiful book from one of our most perceptive thinkers." -- Robert N. Bellah
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From the Publisher
Title of related interest from Waveland Press: Overmyer, Religions of China: The World as a Living System (ISBN 9781577660002).

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Publisher : Waveland Pr Inc (June 1, 1998)
Language: : English
Paperback : 84 pages
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John W. Renuart

5.0 out of 5 stars A GEM FOR THE GENERAL READERReviewed in the United States on February 27, 2013
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Don't be fooled by the nondescript academic looking cover. This is a book for any educated reader. If you have ever thumbed through the Analects by Confucius and wondered why he was by far the most influential thinker in China's history, this book provides the answer.

According to Fingarette, Confucius believed that the characteristics of humans which make us different from animals have an almost magical quality. This quality is most pronounced as it relates to li which is a term similar to holy ritual or sacred ceremony. Li involves respect of others and sublime patterns of behavior for mourning, marrying, fighting, and being a prince, a father, a son and so on. Professor Fingarette describes li as something that captures the essence of what makes us human, and the deep response that li provokes only occurs if the custom or ritual evolved from earlier traditions, it cannot be legislated or mandated: "He who by reanimating the Old can gain knowledge of the New is indeed fit to be called a teacher." New conditions always require that traditions be reanimated, and a successful government, Confucius insists, takes advantage of traditions which raise the civilized above the barbaric: "govern the people by regulations, keep order among them by punishments, and they will evade shamelessly. Govern them by moral force, keep order among them by ritual, and there will be not only shame but correctness." Li makes difficult tasks simple and brings order to chaos: "With correct comportment no commands are necessary, yet affairs proceed."

Fingarette writes that our body of culture makes possible behavior which is distinct from acting on our instincts, or from treating others as animals or objects. The enabling hinge upon which culture rests is li which depends on learned and accepted conventions. These conventions, if they are not to become stale, require an openness and a sharing which leads to more dynamic interrelations and to a heightened community that does not rely on force, threats and commands. Confucius himself made possible a universalistic civilization by expounding on the perfection of the "ancients" whom he always referred to in the most favorable light. The authentic reanimation of tradition, Fingarette writes, is the source of human dignity:

"To be devoted to one's parents is far more than to keep the parents alive physically. To serve and eat in the proper way, with the proper respect and appreciation, in the proper setting - this is to transform the mere nourishment into the human ceremony of dining. ... The shapes of human relationships are not imposed on man, not physically inevitable, not an instinct or reflex. They are rites learned and voluntarily participated in... To `be self-disciplined and ever turning to li' is to be no longer at the mercy of animal needs and demoralizing passion, it is to achieve that freedom in which the human spirit flowers."

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T. Tse

4.0 out of 5 stars Insightful with some flawsReviewed in the United States on November 6, 2009
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This book offers a unique perspective on the Confucian vision. As someone who has studied Confucius and Confucianism in Chinese for more than ten years, I believe that Fingarette has revealed an important aspect of the original vision of Confucius even though the book has some flaws. (That is why I have only awarded it four stars.) He is as careful with the text as he can be without being an Orientalist and without expertise in classical Chinese language. This is commendable.

Fingarette's main argument is that rituals (li) played a central role in Confucius's thinking not only because of their social significance but also because of their religious or spiritual significance. In fact, Fingarette goes on to argue that the social significance derives from the religious significance. I generally agree that this is indeed one of Confucius's most important teachings, and that it is under-appreciated or misinterpreted in modern scholarship. I also agree with Fingarette's view that Confucius saw human civilization as a perfect embodiment of the Way if it is united under the central symbol of holy ceremony.

As Fingarette neatly points out, modern Western thought has gravitated towards a utilitarian view of responsibility, which is in stark contrast to Confucius's view of responsibility as personal commitment. Fingarette, to his credit, avoids framing the discussion around individual and society. For Confucius, the ethical life is largely a problem of personal commitment (or will) rather than a problem of decision. It is a pity that Fingarette did not develop the notion of committed self-cultivation further. I would recommend Confucian Moral Cultivation by P J Ivanhoe for readers interested in this important theme.

Now some of the flaws:
- Fingarette takes J L Austin's notion performative utterance too far.
- Fingarette stubbornly resists the inward dimension of certain important concepts such as ren (jen).
- Chapter 4 is weak due to his inadequate understanding of Chinese history.

Nonetheless, Fingarette's book is refreshing despite its flaws because it helps the reader to cut through modern bias and appreciate the original Confucius. It is not an introductory book on Confucius ad Confucianism, but certainly not a book that a serious student of Confucius or Confucianism can ignore.

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5.0 out of 5 stars A thoughtful book worth readingReviewed in the United States on October 1, 2002
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I very much enjoyed the originality of this book. I don't agree with the author's major premise regarding the interpretation of one of the analects, but I found the originality refreshing. This should not be your first book on Confucius. But once you are comfortable in having some understanding of his teachings, at least enough understanding to recognize when Fingarette departs from orthodox interpretations, then you will greatly enjoy this book. I think it is a "must read" for serious students! If you are interested in a practical view of Confucianism, I recommend the book by Robert Canright: "Achieve Lasting Happiness, Timeless Secrets to Transform Your Life."

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Art S.

3.0 out of 5 stars Confucius SaidReviewed in the United States on April 5, 2017
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I was looking for an over view of Confucianism as a religion. This is not that book. After reading it, I felt that I had learned nothing of the practices, historic changes and developments that occurred within the religion over time. My memory might be incorrect, but I can recall not one mention of the neo-confucians and their beliefs. I would have liked an exposition of neo-confucian theology. Actually, I would have appreciated an exposition of the original confucian theology.

For, me, disappointing. But if you want a book where the favorite line seems to be 'Confucius Said' this is it.

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John J. Gibbs

5.0 out of 5 stars a gemReviewed in the United States on October 15, 2011
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concise, well-written and constructed (as you would expect with Prof. Fingarette. He focusses on some subtle concepts of the Confucian Era - mostly about the concept of duty and responsibility. Dr. Fingarette is one of my favorite thinkers.

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kris k chandra

4.0 out of 5 stars Very interestingReviewed in the United States on October 7, 2013
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Loved the book. Got a good feel for the theories of Confucius. Quite a different philosophy, and times when his views were valued so much

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Narasingha P. Sil

5.0 out of 5 stars Confucius illuminedReviewed in the United States on February 11, 2016
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A concise but considerably erudite essay by an acclaimed master!

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4.0 out of 5 stars it is an interesting bookReviewed in the United Kingdom on March 21, 2013
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few people look at confucian teachings from a spiritual perspective like this one! It provides a new paradigm of understanding 'LI'
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". . . Confucius has revitalized all our thinking about the sage. . . . [it] opens up new prospects of understanding and learning from Confucius." -- A. C. Graham, Times Literary Supplement

". . . this wonderful little . . . book has become a modern classic of Confucian interpretation." -- John M. Koller, Oriental Philosophies

"Confucius is one of the most significant philosophical books on the subject to be published in a long time." -- Henry J. Rosemont, Jr., Philosophy East and West

"In the fifty years in which I have been studying Confucius, I cannot recall that I have found the work of another scholar more stimulating than that of Professor Fingarette." -- Herrlee G. Creel, Journal of the American Academy of Religion


"With superb faithfulness to the text, Fingarette discerns the deepest meaning of the thought of Confucius and, paradoxically, its application to our own time. This is another beautiful book from one of our most perceptive thinkers." -- Robert N. Bellah
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From the Publisher
Title of related interest from Waveland Press: Overmyer,
 Religions of China: The World as a Living System (ISBN 9781577660002).
Product details
Publisher : Waveland Pr Inc (June 1, 1998)
Language: : English
Paperback : 84 pages
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From_Plano_TX
5.0 out of 5 stars A thoughtful book worth reading
Reviewed in the United States on October 1, 2002
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I very much enjoyed the originality of this book. I don't agree with the author's major premise regarding the interpretation of one of the analects, but I found the originality refreshing. This should not be your first book on Confucius. But once you are comfortable in having some understanding of his teachings, at least enough understanding to recognize when Fingarette departs from orthodox interpretations, then you will greatly enjoy this book. I think it is a "must read" for serious students! If you are interested in a practical view of Confucianism, I recommend the book by Robert Canright: "Achieve Lasting Happiness, Timeless Secrets to Transform Your Life."
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Dr. Kenneth P. Nunn
5.0 out of 5 stars Nice copy ..critical book in confucianology
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This an unjustifiably neglected book
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I was looking for an over view of Confucianism as a religion. This is not that book. After reading it, I felt that I had learned nothing of the practices, historic changes and developments that occurred within the religion over time. My memory might be incorrect, but I can recall not one mention of the neo-confucians and their beliefs. I would have liked an exposition of neo-confucian theology. Actually, I would have appreciated an exposition of the original confucian theology.


For, me, disappointing. But if you want a book where the favorite line seems to be 'Confucius Said' this is it.
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concise, well-written and constructed (as you would expect with Prof. Fingarette. He focusses on some subtle concepts of the Confucian Era - mostly about the concept of duty and responsibility. Dr. Fingarette is one of my favorite thinkers.
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Loved the book. Got a good feel for the theories of Confucius. Quite a different philosophy, and times when his views were valued so much
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Ouvrage de première importance en sinologie. Recommandé par la sinologue française Anne Cheng dans son cours Confucius ressuscité au Collège de France.
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Bob Nichols rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
The author asks that we read the Analects with an open mind, i.e., to not impose a Western framework on what Fingarette argues is a distinctly Confucian perspective. Fingarette’s main theme is that while Western philosophers emphasize the individual, Confucius looks at society. Individual freedom and rights are sources of disorder whereas the ancient Chinese social ordering rituals (“li”) merge the individual into a harmonious whole. Confucius, Fingarette states, even goes beyond this utilitarian, ordering function. By following “li” he writes, “man realizes himself. Thus perfect community of men–the Confucian analogue to Christian brotherhood–becomes an inextricable part, the chief aspect, of Divine worship—again an analogy with the central Law taught by Jesus.”

Despite Fingarette’s advice to read the Analects in a non-Western way, his argument ended up with a Western-like perspective nonetheless. There’s his vision of the whole as Christian brotherhood, and there’s the Platonic-like Good, the Tao, that objective truth that motivates us to follow it. Like the Platonic philosopher-king, Fingarette writes that “Only the sage is able to walk the Way in a completely stable, spontaneous way.” The sage now becomes the ruler who is responsible for educating and civilizing the citizens and this in turn leads to the Confucian emphasis on deference to custom, tradition and those who are arbiters of such. In yielding this way we leave the animal past behind and become truly human. We perfect ourselves in accord with the Tao.* These lessons from the Analects, Fingarette concludes, are "universal."

As opposed to an alternative reading of Lao Tzu, where one is urged to respect the individual’s freedom without imposing on the freedom of others, I thought Fingarette's reading of Confucius was depressing.

*Also, Fingarette states that Confucius was about human affairs, not metaphysics. His version of the Tao, however, hardly can be read to be non-metaphysical as he writes that there is “one ‘li’ and that it is in harmony with a greater, cosmic Tao.”
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Sebastian
Feb 10, 2010Sebastian rated it really liked it
Fingarette does a great job at presenting Confucius as an original thinker with insights that I have not heard articulated anywhere else. Very legible, zero bullshit.
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Charlene Mathe
Jan 06, 2018Charlene Mathe rated it really liked it
I took this book off my shelf in order to get a fresh perspective on our human condition. I was particularly intrigued by the opening chapter, "Human Community as Holy Rite." I was not disappointed in my expectation that this chapter would add dimension to talk show host, Dennis Prager's frequent assertion that people need ritual to elevate and enrich life. The concept also reminded me of Jesus' saying that "The Kingdom of God is among you." Another echo of Confucius' sacred community is expressed in Abraham Lincoln's first inaugural address:
"We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies.
Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection.
The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battle-field, and patriot grave,
to every living heart and hearthstone, all over this broad land,
will yet swell the chorus of the Union,
when again touched, as surely they will be,
by the better angels of our nature."
As author Herbert Fingarette interprets Confucius, human ritual and ceremony ("Li") is an enactment of relationships that are sanctified by the virtue, mutuality, and tradition that govern a civil society. In turn, engagement in a life directed on the path of "Li" elevates and dignifies man as a vessel of honor, a "Jen" (think of gen-tleman, or "mensch"). "Li" and "Jen" are interdependent forces. For good insights on the concepts discussed in this book, read the excellent reviews and summaries posted on the Amazon product page by several students and experts on the works of Confucius. (less)
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Proficiency
May 01, 2014Proficiency rated it it was amazing
A new perspective to see Confucius for Westerners. According to Confucius, we learn "li" to be "Jen", humane. If we perform li appropriately, magically Jen is there, people around us will respond to us positively. (less)
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Andrew
Jun 20, 2016Andrew rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
If I wrote a book this good in the morning, I could die content in the evening.

Crisp insights, clearly and concisely argued. A brilliant book.
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Bubobujo
Sep 07, 2020Bubobujo rated it liked it
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I had to read this for my Chinese philosophy class in college. I found some of the views contrived. Ultimately, ended feeling more connected to Confucianism.
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Paul Bard
Apr 27, 2014Paul Bard rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Alcoholism-denying US philosopher says that the ceremony of society is the ultimate good and sacrament for Confucius. He also explains basic terms like li and Ren to new students of Confucius.

I recommend Pierre Ryckmans' Analects instead. (less)