[마음공부][퀘이커] 예수의 부활에 관한 퀘이커의 생각 [이슬람] 이번 주부터 이슬람에 대해 공부하는데

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[이슬람] 이번 주부터 이슬람에 대해 공부하는데

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- 이슬람에서 본다면 예수는 마호메트같은 존재이며 기독교는 이슬람의 형제종교이긴한데,

- <예수의 부활>을 믿는다는 것은 이슬람에서 보면 이단이나 마찬가지라는 것을 처음으로 알게 되었다. 마호메트가 신이 아닌 것처럼, 예수도 신이 아니니 당연히 그렇겠다. 그러므로 예수교는 우상숭배라는 것이다.

- 기독교와 비슷하고도 다른 이슬람을 공부하니 기독교를 포함한 인류의 종교 전통에 대한 이제까지 없던 퍼스펙티브가 생기는 듯한 느낌이다.

- 보통 새벽기도에 가지 않는 아내는 이번 주 만은 일주일 간 다닌다.

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[마음공부][퀘이커] 예수의 부활에 관한 퀘이커의 생각

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- 부활절이 가까이 오니 한인 장로교회에 나가는 아내의 생활이 달라젔다. 이번 주에는 매일 새벽 기도에 나간다고 하여, 새벽에 같이 가는 수영을 가지 않는다. 아내가 수영을 가지 않으니 나도 게을러 저서 몇번 빠젔다.

- 예수의 부활은 기독교에 아주 기본적인 믿음이라서 부활을 믿지 않으면 기독교가 아니라고 일반적으로 되어있다. 그러면 퀘이커는 예수의 부활에 대해 어떻게 생각하는가. 이번 기회에 찾아보니, 역시 내가 생각한데로 모두 똑같이 생각하지 않는다. 부활을 "물리적인" 부활과 상직적인" 부활로 나누자면 물리적인 부활을 믿는 사람도 있고 상직적인 부활만 믿는 사람도 있다. 각자 믿고 싶은 것 믿으면 되는것 이다. 어떤 것을 믿지 않는다고 "이단"이라고 하지 않는다.

- 어떤이는 말한다. 예수의 부활을 믿는 것보다는 예수가 "어떻게 살았는가"에서 배우는 것이 중요하지 않을까?

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Betsy Packard said:

I do believe in a "higher power" as addiction assistance groups refer to a supreme being. I believe the greatest gift we were given as human beings is the gift of free will, which means to me that this supreme being (or is it a collective pantheon as some cultures throughout history and into the prescoincent believe) is not into micro management. The laws of nature were put in motion, if I drop something it falls down as opposed to dropping up as in space. Sometimes there are anomalies to the norms, and often we do not have explanations for those anomalies.

As for Jesus, to me he was an awesome teacher. It was the need to recruit pagans that the myths developed. Look at how many religions throughout history have heroes with virgin births, deaths and resurrections (with resurrections coinciding with the coming of spring). Christianity is a hybrid. The Bible has a lot of good stuff in it, some of the OT is historically correct! The Psalms are poetry, much of which was written by David, including during the time when Saul was pursuing him. But then we get to the New Testament and eventually the Council of Nicea, and human agendas and politics slid in the door.

Christianity in its most basic form doesn't believe Jesus was a demi god like Helen or Troy or Hercules. Christian dogma says Jesus was fully human AND FULLY GOD. Then we have the Trinity, which is not once mentioned in the Bible itself. (Then there's the mishrad about the 3 Magi, which the Bible never says how many of these Zoroastrians came from Persia! The 3 gifts are symbolic. It's a story meant to teach certain values, not to teach fact.)

To me, Jesus was an awesome teacher who not nearly enough of his supposed followers actually follow! He really boiled things down to the essentials: Love God, Love One Another. What could be easier?

To me, Jesus was a Buddha. There have been multiple Buddhas throughout human history, people who have deeply spiritual lives who try to teach us a better way to live with each other. I do believe that there is that which is of "God" within every person, and I'll even take the step of saying within all sentient beings.

I was raised to believe in the viigin birth and the resurrection 3 days (or so) after horrific execution. Letting that belief go was a conscious decision for me, and in no way does it lessen the importance of Jesus the man for me. In no way does it lessen his teachings.

But I keep in mind that the Bible as we know it is a compilation that was greatly influenced by human agendas and politics, and the similarities Christianity has with other belief systems throughout history tells me it's a hybrid of multiple religions.

And I do not use the word "Christian" to describe myself, for oh so many reasons, including all the horrific actions that have occurred under that label.

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Marianna Boncek said:

I don't think it matters one way or another really.

Have your read The Life of Pi (or seen the movie).

Pi asks, "Which story do you prefer?"

If you need/want/desire to believe that Jesus was raised from the dead and it helps your faith or gives meaning to your life, then great.

If someone chooses to believe in the resurrection symbolically and it helps them live a good life than that is ok, too.

If someone believes it's just a story, then that person can move on to other things that help them live their life to their fullest. Believe.

If it doesn't matter, then I don't think there is any pressure or need to believe.

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http://www.quakerquaker.org/.../the-resurrection-of-jesus...

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