2022/08/21

Salman Rushdie - Writing under death threats | DW Documentary



Salman Rushdie - Writing under death threats | DW Documentary
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In 1988, Salman Rushdie’s novel "The Satanic Verses” was published. A year later, Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini issued a "fatwah,” or death sentence, against the British-Indian author. Now, Rushdie was critically injured after being attacked at a reading.

[This documentary was originally released in 2018]

For more than a decade, the author was a fugitive. He had to go into hiding, was under police protection, and had constantly changing identities and homes. The reason was the order to kill Rushdie by Ayatollah Khomeini that came after the publication of his novel, The Satanic Verses. Khomeini declared the work blasphemous, and Rushdie a heretic. At the time, Islamic fundamentalism and its violent and deadly consequences were not on the agenda yet. Rushdie lived in constant fear and survived 20 attempts on his life.

The film is a portrait of a man who uses calmness and humor as weapons of resistance. The portrait includes interviews with Rushdie and also features archive footage that show the violent reaction and mood after The Satanic Verses was published. They show how pop singer Cat Stevens called for Rushdie’s execution - which  Cat Stevens would later deny. The film also draws attention to those who should have protected Rushdie, but abandoned him - from Jimmy Carter to Prince Charles. But there are examples of instant support too, like Isabelle Adjani, who read from The Satanic Verses at the César award ceremony. In New York, the author looks back on his life and his most famous novel, which has lost none of its importance. He speaks about his life, his childhood in Mumbai, Donald Trump and literature, of course.

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for more than 10 years salman rushdie was a hunted man living in hiding with a
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false identity and under police protection the fatwa calling for his execution was
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issued in 1989 following the publication of his book the satanic verses which was
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considered blasphemous with the threat of death hanging over him rushdie changed his address 56 times
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during those 10 years and was the target of some 20 assassination attempts
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[Music]
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but that's all behind him now rushdie has left england and settled in new york where he has lived for almost
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20 years
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[Music]
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i was born in what was then called bombay in india in june 1947 that's to
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say exactly eight weeks to the day before the end of the british empire
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[Music]
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my father used to tell this joke which i think he told slightly too many times
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about how i was born and eight weeks later the british ran away
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august 15 1947 a day of rejoicing
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[Music] i remember my childhood as being very
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happy i mean i came from a non-observant muslim family you know but
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religions really weren't a big issue you know and and nor was nationality so in the little
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neighborhood where we lived there were i would my childhood friends were of every possible religion you know
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they were hindu muslim sikh christian and all of that seemed completely normal
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and that sense of it of everybody else's culture being available to us you know
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was one of the great things about growing up then like many children i was told bedtime
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stories um by my parents my father would tell us i mean the east the indian equivalent of
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fairy tales and the arabian night stories i mean actually when you read the 1001 nights
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you you realize that it's not at all a children's book it's full of sex but of course my father gave me his verse his
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adaptations of them which interested me in to read when i grew up to read the real thing and that was influential too
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but i never had any idea of what to do with my life except being
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a writer so when even when i was a child um my parents afterwards told me that
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when their friends asked them ask me what do you want to do when you grow up i would not say that i
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want to be a you know an airline pilot or an astronaut i would say i want to be a
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writer this is when i was like i don't know 9 10 years old so it was always the plan i
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never really had plan b [Music]
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and i did start writing little things my memory of the first story i ever wrote is that i went to see
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the movie the wizard of oz and i came home and wrote a story called over the rainbow
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there's a story about a boy like myself in a city like bombay and he meets
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magical creatures you know and anyway it was i mean it wasn't long it was a few pages long and and my father
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said that he would have his secretary type it up so he so he did and and then he said you know if i give
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this to you you're going to lose it so i will look after it so he took it away and then he lost it
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my parents they still thought that an english education in europe in england
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was the best thing they could offer me but nobody forced me you know i mean that's to say my father said to me
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would i be interested to go but if i said no then i didn't have to go so they left the decision to me my mother was
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completely against the idea she didn't want me to go but she also left the decision to me and
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and um the strange thing is that i was very happy as i said growing up in
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bombay you know i i liked the world of my childhood i liked my school you know i had plenty of
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friends and it's very hard now to understand about that young boy who is what 12 12
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and a half years old when this question was asked you know and why did he say yes he wanted to go
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you know and it seems mysterious to me that i made that decision
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and it suggests that there was i don't know some spirit of adventure some desire to
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go away and see other things you know and maybe it was in part inspired by reading but the fact that i'd read all
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these english children's books you know and so i had a picture of england in my mind which of course was completely
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inaccurate england is not like a children's book
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[Music] when i arrived i well first of all it was very cold i arrived in winter in
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january and i had a boy from the tropics so so just the physical fact of how cold it
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was was difficult and then i discovered
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more disappointing things about england which was to put it in a simple word racism you know that uh
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it was the first time in my life that i had had the feeling or been given the feeling of being
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the other of being the person who is not like the people who are there and and disliked for that reason
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boys find all sorts of ways of being nasty to other boys that's true but the way they found of being nasty to
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me was to attack me for my racial origins you know and that was
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i mean that was very shocking it was very shocking i didn't speak english with an english
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accent and and yes i mean my skin is scholar is relatively light and so it means that over the years i in many ways
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suffered less racial prejudice than other people with my background you know
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um but it was all around you know i mean the the that period of after i grew up i mean i
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graduated in 1968 and and you know the the 70s and 80s in england
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were a time of considerable racial attention
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well i had a very bad start as a writer you know i mean i when i left university because i had
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decided to settle in england and not go back east i think i was very confused about my identity as a writer but what
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kind of writer i was who exactly i was as a writer and and so
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a lot of the things that i wrote to begin with were were flawed because of that they were
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they were um they weren't very good i was working as a advertising
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copywriter to pay the rent and then i was writing these various other projects probably three
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book length manuscripts that that i wrote in that in that time that that were never published
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and i mean actually now i'm very grateful they were not published because they were really not very good
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so there was a lot of work and failure i published one novel that essentially
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nobody liked and there were various other abandoned projects that i really felt that i was
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i hadn't found my ways and i think the question in the end was that i had to
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do much more introspection i had to really understand who i was and where the writing was coming from you know and
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and out of that came a desire to reclaim what i feared might be lost
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territory which was which was the world i'd come from to the world of bombay in india you know and
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and so i went back there with my my small savings
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and i just decided i'm going to stay here as long as i can i'm going to travel as widely as i can i'm going to just try and
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you know drink this in again and and i was there for i don't know almost not quite not quite six months so in five and a half months
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something like that and by the time i came back i had a much clearer idea
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of what i wanted to do and out of that came midnight's children
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what the book is about is about my generation which is the generation of of freedom the generation of independence
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you know the the first generation to be born in india not under colonial rule
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you know for over 200 years the british left on on august the
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midnight of august 14th to 15th and yes that's what i wanted to write about
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and and so by the time i came around to writing midnight's children i i really thought this is a kind of last
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chance you know if if i can if i can't make this work then maybe i should stop
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um but fortunately that's not what happened it did change my life the success of
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midnight's children it was completely unexpected i left university in 1968 and by the
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time midnight children was published that was 1981. the idea that it would become this kind
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of global phenomenon with selling multiple millions of copies and translated into
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you know 50 languages and so on it would never have crossed my mind that that would happen ladies and gentlemen salman
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rushdie [Applause]
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we feel it's a very notable winner a brilliant book which is also a marvelously funny novel
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so it was a complete shock and yes then you know what it did was allowed me to
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live by my writing and and then i was what i was 34 years old at the time
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rushdie spent five years writing the satanic verses at the time no one could foresee the
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rise of islamic fundamentalism but the backlash that followed the book's release was the harbinger of what was to
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become the dominant issue of the 21st century the spread of fanatical islam
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before the satanic verses was published rashti asked a few friends to read the proofs
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his publisher said that rushdie had no idea the storm of the satanic verses was about to unleash
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the thing is i did show it to them the book the number of people who knew who knew the world i was writing about
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and it was quite obvious that people of conservative religious views would not like the book but they hadn't liked
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anything else i wrote either so that's not particularly different i felt that in many ways it was my most
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formally ambitious book you know it was a book where i was
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pushing things farther that i pushed them before and i and i i like that about it
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the book tells of two passengers on a flight to london gabriel and saladin fall victim to a
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terrorist attack as their plane explodes and they fall from the sky the two protagonists are
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transformed into archangels of good and evil the book denounces the oppression of
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women intolerance and violence and questions the core tenets of the islamic faith
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in one scene prostitutes working in a brothel take the names of the wives of the prophet in order to boost their
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earnings and in a thinly veiled reference to ayatollah khomeini the novel also
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depicts an exiled imam who during revolution returns to his home country and tyrannizes the people i knew about
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the the rise of islamic fundamentalism in fact there's a character in the satanic verses who is
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who is a you know who is of that kind who is a fundamentalist preacher um i think you know anyone who comes
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from the east who had paid attention to what was happening in the world we knew about that you know and
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and um the only re now a lot of people who read the book say that it seems to have
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foreseen what was going to happen but it wasn't foreseeing it it was just paying attention uh to what was actually
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happening which at that time people in the west were not paying attention
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i used this metaphor of alfred hitchcock's film the birds
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there's there's this scene in the birds where there are children singing in a classroom
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and outside the classroom there's the playground but there's a there's a climbing frame jungle gym and
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and the film cuts back and forth between the two and the first time it looks outside the window you see one black
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bird come to sit on the frame and then you go back in and the children are singing again and then you go back out and there's
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like 500. and the point is that when there's just one bird sitting there it doesn't mean
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anything it's just a bird sitting on a climbing frame you know it's only retrospectively when there are 500 birds
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that you begin to think oh yeah there was that first bird you know and and i think what happened in the case of what
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happened to the satanic verses is it's it was something like the first black bird
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in september 1988 the publication of the satanic verses caused an instant uproar
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in the muslim community it criticized what they saw as rusty's irreverent portrayal of the prophet the book
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triggered a wave of protests across the arab world i mean attacks like this against books
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had taken place before you know against other writers in the muslim world najib mafu is for example the nobel
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laureate but i think what happened in the west is that people were completely taken by
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surprise
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there was some argument about the book you know there were some in england in particular there were some
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muslim priests who spoke up against it and that's more or
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less what would have happened had it not been the intervention of khamenei
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the book came out in september 1988 and and the fatwa was six months later
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february 1989. on february 14 1989 in tehran the
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spiritual leader of the islamic revolution ayatollah khomeini issued a religious decree or fatwa ordering all
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muslims to kill the british indian writer salman rushdie and his publishers
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for the book's blasphemous attacks on islam the prophet and the quran
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a bounty of 25 thousand dollars was offered to any iranian who carried out
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the sentence and 7 500 to any muslim of another nationality
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he said in the name of god almighty i call on all zealous muslims to execute
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them quickly wherever they may find them so that no one else will dare insult islamic sanctities
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[Applause] i mean i was at home in london
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and the telephone rang and it was a woman from the bbc from the news radio news program
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um who i think what she said is how does it feel to know that you've been sentenced
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to death by the ayatollah khomeini that's the first i'd heard of it you know
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and i said something stupid like it doesn't feel very good and and put the phone down
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and then i did something even more stupid which is to run around the house locking the doors and windows as if that
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then it would be fine um my first thought was i think i'm i think i'm a dead man i think i i began
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to think that my days might be numbered in less than double figures you know
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at the time nobody understood exactly what it might mean i had to go to a television interview
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for cbs television in america and and i was asking the journalists at the cbs
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office in london what do you think this means you know and and one of them said oh don't worry
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about it you know khomeini he sentences the president of the united states to death every friday you know so um
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so nobody knew whether to take it seriously or not you know but i did and i think
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within 24 hours uh the british had also decided that they had to take this seriously and and
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that's when the protection was offered and i accepted his literary agent andrew wiley
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remembers rusty's call while he said i had to ask him what a fatwa was i'd never heard the word
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before he said he was going into hiding right away
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[Music] over the next few weeks demonstrations against rushdie escalated across britain
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muslim communities held book burnings thousands of protesters who considered the book evil and insulting to islam
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demanded that it be banned
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[Music] in london activists burned effigies of the author while chanting allah is great
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and death to rusty a professor of islamic studies spoke out
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against rushdie in an open letter to the international herald tribune your western readers are unable to gauge
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the acuteness of the blow you have dealt us he wrote what do you think the response of black americans would be if
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you were to mock martin luther king jr or the reaction of the jewish community if you eulogized hitler
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[Music] [Applause] [Music] the director of the islamic center and
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his librarian were murdered tonight on the premises of the mosque of brussels abdullah al-adal had apparently taken a
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moderate stance in the russia affair
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the director of the islamic center abdullah al-adal was found dead with gunshot wounds to the head and the neck
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salem al-beger was killed in a similar fashion he was head of the islamic center library
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the tv is full of bloodlust i'm not at the hotel anymore
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i am in this unnamable place there is weaponry everywhere
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the moment where things really changed for me was when i saw television coverage
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of the burning of the satanic verses in bradford i thought of it then i think of it now
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as one of the most obscene images that i've ever witnessed when romania intervened that the the narrative had
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changed that as i say what i thought of in up to that point being an argument you
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know um turned into something much more dangerous britain's biggest bookseller withdrew
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the satanic verses from its 430 stores on the same day the writer stephen king
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called the head of the chain and gave him an ultimatum if you don't sell the satanic verses you
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don't sell stephen king the book was back on the shelves the next day
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there were some political problems which is that the thatcher government in england was aware of the fact that i
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had been a strong critic of the thatcher government and so they weren't particularly in love
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with me but on the other hand they offered the police protection and maintained it
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today a protest took place in paris with banners
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were chanted between the place de la republique metro stations by about a thousand demonstrators
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for them rushdie's book was a stab in the back but not all politicians and
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intellectuals supported rushdie john le carre wrote in the guardian that nobody has a god-given right to insult a
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great religion and be published with impunity the beloved children's author road doll
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leveled the harshest attack this kind of sensationalism does indeed get an indifferent book on the top of the
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bestseller list he seems to be regarded as some sort of a hero to my mind he's a
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dangerous opportunist even jimmy carter whose presidency was
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destroyed by ayatollah khomeini denounced the book calling it an insult to the sacred beliefs of our muslim
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friends and the singer kat stevens who converted to islam in 1977
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expressed disapproval of rusty's writings and support for the death sentence
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another critic prince charles said i'm sorry but if someone insults someone else's deepest convictions well then you
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shouldn't pretend to be surprised a few years later his mother queen elizabeth ii knighted rushdie for his
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service to literature effigies of the queen and the author were burned at several demonstrations
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on june 3rd 1989 ayatollah khomeini died in tehran leaving the fatwa in place
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his successor ayatollah khamenei declared it is incumbent on every muslim
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to employ everything he has to send salman rushdie to hell even if it means sacrificing his life
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the death sentence against salman rushdie pronounced a year ago by ayatollah khomeini has been reaffirmed
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by his successor ayatollah ali khamenei iran's religious leader referred to the
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british writer mr rushdie as the author of the blasphemous book the satanic verses
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islamic fanatics continue to pursue salman rushdie the author of the satanic verses condemned to death by khomeini
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he's in hiding somewhere in england protected by scotland yard his translators have also become targets
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a first attack took place earlier in the week in italy and a second one has now occurred in japan
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an expert on islam and professor at the university of tsukuba was found dead this morning in front of an elevator
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near his office he had been stabbed several times the literary agent had already been
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attacked by a pakistani militant in february 1990 at a press conference marking the book's release in tokyo
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rushdie went to new york in december 1991 to give a speech at columbia university it was his first trip outside
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britain he had to take a royal air force plane because british airways refused to let him fly with them citing security
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reasons the windows of his new york city hotel room were bulletproof
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ladies and gentlemen salman in october 1992 the writer launched an
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international campaign to have the death sentence against him removed i decided to make a lot of noise he said because
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noise is my only hope rushdie came to paris in march 1993 for
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the first time since the fatwa had been declared on three previous occasions the french authorities had refused his
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request to enter the country our country is the country of artists
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writers and freedom and i wanted salman rushdie to be here at the earliest possible opportunity so
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we could express our friendship our admiration and our support
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in france there was there was great support across the political spectrum and i was in france several times in
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those years and met everyone from jacqueline to to baladur and to uh you
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know everyone you can think of shirak etc the only person that would not meet
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me was was mitiga and and just refused and of course you
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know how close mitara and jack lang were and jack lang repeatedly
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tried to persuade him that he needed to come aboard but for whatever reason he would not so i never met meteorology
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[Applause] in july 1993 islamic radicals set fire
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to a hotel in cevas turkey where the translator of the satanic verses was among those attending a cultural
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conference 37 people died in the blaze it was the last large-scale protest as the years
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passed the death threats became fewer gradually rusty began to appear in
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public again bookstores ushered him in through the back door 1994 in january a group of 100 arab and
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muslim intellectuals published statements in favor of rashti excerpts of the satanic verses banned in all
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muslim countries appeared in an egyptian newspaper on october 14th the nobel
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prize-winning novelist najib mafus was seriously wounded in a knife attack in cairo
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but gradually things improved in the sense that the
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analysis of the threat against my life began to diminish and eventually there
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was a an agreement between the british and the iranian governments which essentially ended the threat good afternoon i'm delighted to say
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that his excellency dr qarazi has clarified the iranian government's position
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on this and on the bounty on the life of the author of the satanic verses the
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government of the islamic republic of iran has no intention nor is it going to take any action
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whatsoever to threaten the life of the author of the satanic verses
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or anybody associated with this with his work nor would it encourage or assist anybody
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to do so gradually the security measures put in place to protect rushdie were relaxed he
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was able to live more freely british airways announced that he was once again welcome on board its flights
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but despite iran's decision to drop the fatwa many hardliners continued to uphold it
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i want to have a dialogue with you by a machine gun you know
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since 10 years ago you are walking you are running to the hell we will kill you we obey the imam romani
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the great
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foreign and actually i started coming to america
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i would come here for for two or three months a year and here it seemed possible to live a relatively
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normal life without any of those and this is of course an innocent america you know this
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is an america before 9 11. um where uh
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it felt fine felt safe [Music]
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i'm often asked the question about whether i regretted writing the satanic verses but i mean i regretted what
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happened to me as a consequence of it you know i would much rather that had not happened but as far as the book is
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concerned i'm you know i'm more and more proud of it
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i mean this year it will be 30 years since the satanic verses was published and and i also think that what's
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happening now as the um as the scandal goes away
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is that people are able to read it as a book rather than as some kind of scandalous text
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one of the effects of the rise of radical islam has been to not so much to frighten writers as to frighten
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publishers you know i think i think there's a lot of books that would not get themselves published now
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because people are scared to publish them one of the great surprises of my life has been the return
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of religion to the center of the stage you know that i mean i'm an old swas on twitter you know um and
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uh in those days we argued about many things but we didn't discuss religion religion
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seemed to be an irrelevance politically and since then it has become
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obviously central in a way in a way that none of us suspected [Music]
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in the setting of western europe and america where there is a lot of prejudice against muslim people
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it is obviously wrong that people should be discriminated against their religion and they need to be
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protected but it's equally wrong to protect the
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religion from all criticism criticism of islam has become equated
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with an attack on muslim people you know and and and so
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even people on the liberal end of the progressive leftist end of the spectrum
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now find problematic the idea of supporting people who make fun of religion or at least of that
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particular religion nobody cares if people make fun of you know catholics or jews but but um
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islam people seem to have a false sense of having to protect it
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you know um and that sometimes leads to terrible mistakes like the
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the failure of a number of american writers to support charlie hebdo for example
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on january 7 2015 gunmen stormed the offices of the french satirical
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newspaper charlie hebdo during a weekly editorial meeting 12 people including eight journalists
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and two police officers were murdered in the islamist terrorist attack the famous cartoonists kabu shop andere
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tinu and wolinski were among the victims in february 2006 they had published a
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series of caricatures of the prophet muhammad the killer said you will pay for
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insulting the prophet before killing the journalists i think people are in a kind of state of denial and and they don't really
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understand how difficult it's going to be that's the sadness of our time i mean i remember
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here in new york after after the 9 11 attacks a couple of journalist friends of mine i
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mean very senior journalists you know experienced journalists saying to me oh now we understand what
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happened to you and i thought really i thought you know what thousands of people have to die
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before you understand what happened to me but then i understood that that's not what he was saying exactly what he was
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saying was what the two of them were saying was that now it had also happened to them
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this is this is the the horrible trump tower center of evil
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mordor [Laughter] but he never comes because he knows
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how much people in new york dislike that he never covers it's horrible what's happening in this
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country right now and i think what has been happening at the borders has been almost almost the worst thing just about
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you know so far the the imprisonment of children but one of the most awful things about this administration is that
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it appears to have no bottom you know every time you think there's no way they can get lower than
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this they find a place to go even lower than that and i mean it's horrifying every day
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the novel before was you know two years eight months 28 nights is a kind of fairy tale of new york with genies and
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so on and and so i thought what can i do that is really radically different from that and that's what led to the the
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method the manner of the golden house [Music]
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the book is shaped as having a beginning on the day of the inauguration of barack obama and it ends
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at the time of the inauguration of the 45th president who is not referred to by name in the book
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there's a cartoon character who replaces trump in the novel you know which is which is the joker the villain from the
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batman and so and so i thought well i don't want to have the word trump in the book
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so i'll have the joker instead and then it seemed to me not inappropriate that a
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comic book villain should become president of the united states and i just thought i'm writing a book
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roughly speaking about the obama years about about what was happening in america
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in those in that just under a decade from a moment of great optimism
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to a moment of something like the opposite of that
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in this novel rene a young filmmaker in search of a story spends his days spying
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on his new neighbor nero golden an enigmatic millionaire from india who
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settles in the heart of greenwich village new york with his three sons these strange fascinating neighbors with
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their mysterious ways become an unexpected source of inspiration
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i thought that he would be watching what happens and telling us
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one of the films that was really just seemed like an obvious reference in this novel was alfred hitchcock's rear window
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because where a lot of the novel is set is in this kind of secret garden in the middle of
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greenwich village and it suddenly struck me that this would be a wonderful space for
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the action of the novel that it had something theatrical about it it's almost like a stage you know on which
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the act the characters the novel can act out their stories on this stage and they
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can be watched by everybody living around the garden but renee's head is full of movies so
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he's always thinking about movies the thing he does share with me is a passion for the cinema this
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obsession with this with with movies that i've had all my life because it becomes his obsession just goes to show you can get away with
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a lot more in the indian movies nowadays when i was at college the only other
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dream that i had was to be an actor you know and and then i i think probably wisely i didn't
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didn't pursue that that particular career but for me it's always been
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like a little bit of an unscratched itch so sometimes if people have offered me small
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cameo roles in movies i've been excited to to do it you know it's just
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fun and the actress helen hunt was directing her first film
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and in it there was a character of an indian doctor indian gynecologist
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and out of the blue they called me and said would i like to do it so i had to play helen hunt's gynecologist
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hello hello hello hello how are you hi hi hi hello hello hmm
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um sorry so
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anyone else coming no no no this is it this is it yeah uh could you let us
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oh my god it just looks great i had to learn a great deal about how to
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work ultrasound machines and things like that so you know if you know anybody who needs an ultrasound i can do it
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although the fatwa issued against rushdie was finally lifted the iranian press continued to put a price on his
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head the price thousand dollars rose 2012 and six hundred thousand in 2016.
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and on the eve of the sinister 30th anniversary of the fatwa some religious fanatics decided to add another three
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hundred thousand dollars to the three million offered 15 years ago by ayatollah hassan sanai
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while the muslim uproar over the satanic verses continued larry david who produced hbo's comedy series curb your
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enthusiasm asked rushdie if he was willing to draw a line under the fatwa and that period
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by doing a sketch about it [Music] when they first approached me
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to ask me to do it my first reaction was i'm not sure that this is funny is you
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know is this really funny and then i thought about it and i thought well actually there would have been a point in my life when it really
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wasn't funny at all you know and but but if we've now reached a point at which it can be comedy you know which we can make
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jokes about it then actually that's a very good point to have reached you know and so then so i said yes i'm happy to
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do it because it is fun mr david is here now sir oh mr david
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come in please have a seat you know you've survived many many years now well it's you know it's there yeah
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but um yeah the philosophy yeah can be scary it could be bewildering et cetera but
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there are things that you gain there are a lot of women who are attracted to you
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in this condition really i didn't think there was any condition that they did you are a dangerous
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man there are very beautiful women it's the fatwa wrapped around you like kind
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of sexy pixie dust huh butwa sex is beginning to circle around you but that
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is not the only benefit for example you don't have to go to anything you don't want to go to
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hmm so like your cousin is giving a reading of his lousy poetry book
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and you say sorry can't make it somebody calls you says can you come
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pick me up at the airport you say can't make it i can't make it this musical
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it's about me right yes so i mean i'm interested i don't think there really will be a
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musical fatwa the musical was aired just once on
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hbo following an episode of david's show featuring rusty
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here i am hiding out now in the hole barely eating barely sleeping this is taking its toll writing like a bigger
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fish to fry now i know i'll dine now i need a plan i do not like this punishing the scripture how he mocks me all this
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blasphemy and vanity commonality exhausts me it'll cost me my respect in iran and so it's time for him to die and
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we might like this man come on don't be silly it was just a book look we now
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can't let him off the hook what a coward god knows that i do not like this what
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am i gonna do is
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good evening everyone please join me in welcoming salman rushdie
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writing's not hard [Music]
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[Music] i do not like this he doesn't like this
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i cannot like this i do not like this
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[Music]



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Mika Bitar
Mika Bitar
4 days ago (edited)
As a Syrian, this video brings me some sort of long awaited acknowledgment of my frustration with islamic radicalism. it is simply appalling and disgusting.
Having to live with it was and still is one of the worst expreinces of my life.

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popsy
popsy
4 days ago
True!! Stay safe. I pray that more and more muslims will leave islam.

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Mika Bitar
Mika Bitar
4 days ago
 @popsy  Thank you, I do my fair share of speaking up, hope it helps anyone who ever felt as lonely as I did.

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dark knight
dark knight
4 days ago
People like you are rare. I have some M friends. But they are afraid. In south Asia the situation is much dire. Sadly unlike other religions, you can't reform Qur'an.

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Juanita Richards
Juanita Richards
4 days ago
 @Mika Bitar  I have some former Muslim friends on FB who belong to various atheist groups I am in. They have to hide their atheism and true identities on FB.   They are from different countries and one is from Saudi Arabia......

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Mika Bitar
Mika Bitar
4 days ago
 @Juanita Richards  I don't live in the middle-east anymore so I dont hide, but thats also the point, we can't all hide, some of us atleast need to be visible.

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Haroon Nawaz
Haroon Nawaz
4 days ago (edited)
Lol never the more you fuel fire the more people research islam carry on lad 😆 🤣  ...

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Juanita Richards
Juanita Richards
4 days ago
 @Mika Bitar  One of my friends, a former Muslim. has been outcast by his family. He's now moving from place to place and living in fear........I have advised him and others to try to come to NZ as religious refugees, to claim as asylum at the airport.....but they have neither money nor passports.

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Fatima Perez
Fatima Perez
4 days ago
 @popsy  not going to happen 😅

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Evangelesong
Evangelesong
4 days ago
Put your faith in Jesus Christ. He died on the cross for our sins and was resurrected three days later.  Repent and believe in Jesus for eternity life with him 🧡🙏

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harsha vanka
harsha vanka
4 days ago
Just be cautious brother I worry for ur safety, there r lot of preying eyes

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Jikku Abraham
Jikku Abraham
4 days ago
Hi Mita, How are you? Self is Syriac Orthodox Christian Living in Kerala, India. Glad that self and family are in Kerala , India. We exactly know the Green Religion did and We lost touch with our Church for many years and killed as well in Syrian Deserts. I hope you also know that Muhammed was taught Bible by Bahira. anyways, you took the right decision, sad to see the plight of millions including Innocent Christians, Muslims

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Lil Trip
Lil Trip
4 days ago
 @Mika Bitar  another western wannabe apologist. Trust me when I tell you the shame goes both ways.

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Shadowban Observer
Shadowban Observer
4 days ago
Ah. Syria. Islamic radicalism is one of the root cause of the last war too.

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John Coleman
John Coleman
4 days ago
 @Lil Trip  I’m Irish, I live in what is classed as a free and full secular western liberal sovereign independent democracy and a constitutional republic, and that’s how we like it.

What’s your excuse for supporting child brides? 

It’s a heinous crime against humanity.

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Straya
Straya
4 days ago
All he best to you.
Beautiful man.

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Seriously Pagan
Seriously Pagan
4 days ago
Christianity is running a close second here in the US. I wish they would all get raptured and leave us in peace.

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Austin Kinghorn
Austin Kinghorn
4 days ago (edited)
 @Seriously Pagan  Buy an island and found a pagan country. I would be genuinely interested to see the result. Couldn’t be any worse than Afghanistan.

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xmuslimxmetalhead
xmuslimxmetalhead
4 days ago
Mika Bitar Just Islam itself as a religion is the cause of all this.

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This is Patrick
This is Patrick
4 days ago
 @Seriously Pagan  Nah, Christian extremism overall is an extremely distant second to whatever is happening in the Middle East.

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Manuel Dumont
Manuel Dumont
4 days ago
 @Austin Kinghorn  What's "interesting", is that the abRAhamic-RAliJinns ARE-based on(isRA-EL's(SUN-GOD) , RAbbis, jeZEUS-mARY, & RA-SOL's RAchaim-RAhMAN=SUN-MOON)-Pagan RAliJinn .😇.

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Jikku Abraham
Jikku Abraham
4 days ago
 @Seriously Pagan  Christianity of Western Origins forget or abandon the ancient authentic Christians from the holy land. Now they come with new Bible and teachings and spread cult across the world

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popsy
popsy
4 days ago
 @Fatima Perez  It's already happening. Muslim apologists say it's an avalanche of apostacy!

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SkepticalTeacher
SkepticalTeacher
4 days ago
The problem is, we have imported people with these backward attitudes to Europe and allowed them to not integrate.

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Jikku Abraham
Jikku Abraham
4 days ago
 @SkepticalTeacher If its Germany, France,   there is no problem based on the fact that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Even UK 🇬🇧 many streets are controlled by radicals

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Mark Heithaus
Mark Heithaus
4 days ago
Is it everywhere?  Is it changing?
I was in Kazakhstan recently and Islam there seemed very mild and secular.
I think of evangelical Christianity here in the States, particularly the southern states, in the 1950s and before.  Preachers could use the Bible to justify just about anything.  Very different now.

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Heidi Verna Thorbjørnsen
Heidi Verna Thorbjørnsen
4 days ago (edited)
 @Mark Heithaus  there is always hypocrites who distort the Bible or Koran to justify doing wrong  & exploiting people or who justify harming people.

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Muhammad Hamza
Muhammad Hamza
4 days ago
Islam is the fastest growing religion in whole world

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Mustafa Khalil
Mustafa Khalil
4 days ago
I am also Syrian, and I completely share your point of view, stay safe, I hope we get rid of the radicalism monster soon in the middle east and move forward to a brighter future

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Gozer Of gozmis
Gozer Of gozmis
4 days ago
 @dark knight  and thats Is theyre weakness ..Is Easy to debunk



Gozer Of gozmis
Gozer Of gozmis
4 days ago
 @Muhammad Hamza  ex-muslim rising too

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K D
K D
4 days ago
 @Haroon Nawaz  You sound as if people just reading quran would instantly convert. You have been shown a false delusion. I have read the quran and it's perfectly a Fairy tale story book

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Austin Kinghorn
Austin Kinghorn
4 days ago
 @Muhammad Hamza  there is an inverse relationship between economic development and fertility. The fastest growing often means the least developed.

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Muhammad Hamza
Muhammad Hamza
4 days ago
 @Austin Kinghorn  no you can look china totally wrong

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John Coleman
John Coleman
4 days ago
 @Muhammad Hamza  well when you are born into it, you don’t have any choice. 

What’s the penalty for leaving Islam?

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John Coleman
John Coleman
4 days ago
 @Jikku Abraham  you are suggesting that you know more than the Roman Catholic Church than they do about themselves?

Well okay then.

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R R
R R
4 days ago
You cannot reform islam. You can only quit it and encourage as many others to quit as possible. Because Islam relies on street power and dominance of its street power to implement Sharia in countries where law of the land is based on principles of freedom and tolerance.

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John Coleman
John Coleman
4 days ago
 @R R  the penalty for leaving Islam is death, it’s not easy to get out.

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John Coleman
John Coleman
4 days ago
 @Lil Trip  isn’t that right, the penalty for leaving Islam is death, better for those people to move to the free world.

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Haroon Nawaz
Haroon Nawaz
4 days ago
 @K D  yeah yeah go to bed lad



Straya
Straya
4 days ago
 @John Coleman  Its all supernatural beleif.....so he may know at ton more or in hished be allah os christ himself.



Straya
Straya
4 days ago
 @Evangelesong  haha....yes the same evils but at least it reformed.



נתנאל ציון
נתנאל ציון
4 days ago
 @Mustafa Khalil  respect to you too man in this burden,if you see what i wrote mike bitar. i am lucky my family had an escape route. hope you are safe as wel

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Heliocentric
Heliocentric
4 days ago
Same here. 
Thanks for speaking up !

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Aylbdr Madison
Aylbdr Madison
4 days ago
If you have to call for death threats on a person for criticizing your faith, 
 then your personal belief in that faith was incredibly weak to begin with.

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Louniece
Louniece
4 days ago
Exactly!

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Me h
Me h
4 days ago
Imagine worshipping an all powerful, omniscient being that always hides behind puny little humans, and has done for centuries!

It just doesn't make any educated sense, which is why it is always the gullible who fall for the lie - still, at least we know who the easily conned are, I suppose.

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Bâbak
Bâbak
4 days ago
Yes all religion functions this way

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Belette holt fente
Belette holt fente
4 days ago
It's. not about theology or religion, but politics & power.

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TLE-NYC
TLE-NYC
4 days ago
weak to begin with.

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Morgan jj
Morgan jj
4 days ago
 @Me h  unfortunately u worship another human being, read your Bible cover first u criticize others

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Star Capture
Star Capture
4 days ago (edited)
If Salman is this obsessed by a religion to the point he writes books just to provoke its people to market his books and ideology it shows how weak and irresponsible he is and his faithless ideology is.

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Rita Gameiro
Rita Gameiro
4 days ago
 @Star Capture  strangely he never claimed otherwise.

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ozeppeo
ozeppeo
4 days ago
 @Morgan jj  pretty sure he's an atheist...from what he wrote :)

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dark knight
dark knight
4 days ago
 @Bâbak   it is a foolish defence. All religions have stopped killing in name of blasphemy. Islam has just gone back. Even you know Qur'an need to be changed with modern times. Inculcating basic humanity

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Jerry Lou Fretz
Jerry Lou Fretz
4 days ago
I think that, if the God of Islam is all powerful, He should be able to defend himself and not have to be defended by his lackeys killing people.

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Subramaniam Arunachalam
Subramaniam Arunachalam
4 days ago
 @Star Capture  he wrote that book in the 80s. Most muslims are not educated enough to consume literature like this. It was banned by India a whole year, before  an Islamic country even realised that this book existed and banned it. Get real. "Try to sell books by insulting muslims".  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA cute theory

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Haroon Nawaz
Haroon Nawaz
4 days ago
😆 😆 😆  that's why at the back off it thousands off prople are reverting to islam globally round the world 🌎 as we speak at a very fast pace.....and not forced 🙄 😉 😀

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Paola Grando
Paola Grando
4 days ago
 @Haroon Nawaz  Actually, plenty of people are leaving Islam and other main religions.

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Al P
Al P
4 days ago
​ @Me h  By default, mankind is following "someone" or something. Unbeknownst to you and many others, you may be blindly following Satan, the evil one. Don't be so quick to say others are gullible for you may be also one of them.

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Subramaniam Arunachalam
Subramaniam Arunachalam
4 days ago
 @Star Capture  please stop comforting yourself with this kind of nonsense. He was a booker prize winner before the satanic verses was published. You really think he made the effort to insult mus sentiments just to get some publicity? Get real buddy 🤣🤣

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Star Capture
Star Capture
4 days ago
 @Subramaniam Arunachalam  Money can do you make crazy things

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Ames Toy
Ames Toy
4 days ago
Any religion that calls



Straya
Straya
4 days ago
 @Belette holt fente  isla. Is about Accra



Deniz Esen
Deniz Esen
4 days ago
 @Paola Grando  sure there is some that leave but more that run to it after finding the truth. The ones that leave have half a brain

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Deniz Esen
Deniz Esen
4 days ago
 @Subramaniam Arunachalam  yes of course that's what he did. Just like how when one becomes a millionaire now by they want ten million and then hundred million



Kazuha Toyama
Kazuha Toyama
4 days ago
Bâbak nah! You can criticize the Bible all you want, I don’t care.

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Terri Heitman
Terri Heitman
4 days ago
Wow! That is wonderfully said.

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Subhasis Joshi
Subhasis Joshi
4 days ago
Exactly and it is actually 
This is a religion bound by fear. 
If u leave this religion u ll be beheaded. 
If u critique u ll be beheaded

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Andromeda
Andromeda
4 days ago
God is unable to grant you eternal life here and now;  while you are alive.
How is God going to grant you eternal life after you are dead ???

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A_teez
A_teez
4 days ago
 @dark knight  islam will not change because it's suppose to be a perfect religion... Unlike other religions which have changed with time. Other people need to know basic knowledge like this and stop being ignorant. Ex Muslim here

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Paola Grando
Paola Grando
4 days ago
 @Deniz Esen  what do you mean the truth? Could you write an example?

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Paola Grando
Paola Grando
4 days ago
 @A_teez  But there are different kibds of islam abd different imams bring a different reading.



Mark Cooper
Mark Cooper
4 days ago
People and their associates who decide that someone else should not be allowed freedom of speech should not be allowed to stay in a democratic country. Regretably, there will always be bigots and autocrats. Freedom and democracy will always have to be fought for and defended.

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The Legend
The Legend
4 days ago
🎶🎵Flintstones🎶🎵
Yabba Dabba DOOL! Kiss-stones, meet the Kiss-stones 💋🕋, they’re your modern stone age family! From the, town of mecca, it’s a place that has NO HISTORY! 🚫🧾
They smile with the kuffurs down the street😁, al-lah is the best of all deceit!🤘🤘👁🦵👁 When you're with the Kiss-stones, Have a yabba dabba DOOL time, A dabba DOOL time, We'll have a pagan time! AISHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Tech Life
Tech Life
4 days ago
 @The Legend  Or praying to pink elephants n monkeys :)



Tech Life
Tech Life
4 days ago
 @The Legend  At least they not bathing in the sewage waters of the ganges ....



manofsan
manofsan
4 days ago
Exactly, someone who believes that God is almighty would never imagine they could somehow "protect God", because that then presumes that you are more powerful than God in some way, to be able to offer protection to God. It's absurd. But some like to revel in their ignorance.

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Alzario
Alzario
4 days ago (edited)
 @Star Capture  its all about dollars & cents. he should written about the birds & bees instead.



Joya Nath
Joya Nath
4 days ago
Highly agree!

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M D
M D
4 days ago
 @Kazuha Toyama  that only means you don't care about what you believe. That's why that book is aimed at religion that has followers that care. Hard to make money on people that don't care.



M D
M D
4 days ago
 @Kazuha Toyama  that only means you don't care about what you believe. That's why that book is aimed at religion that has followers that care. Hard to make money on people that don't care.



J
J
4 days ago
❗️Remove “religion” and replace it with “your mom” or “your wife” and let us critic them harshly and publicly then let see if you will be open minded you hypocrite

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Haroon Nawaz
Haroon Nawaz
3 days ago (edited)
 @Paola Grando  yeah  and half off them come back .... or they will realise right at the end....when it's late 🙄 🤔 😏



A_teez
A_teez
3 days ago
​ @Paola Grando  You are not wrong but majority opinion matter more than minority liberate Islamic interpretations.



0230Raveena
0230Raveena
3 days ago
Absolutely.

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William
William
3 days ago
They know that criticizing their religion brings out the evil they try to hide.

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human race
human race
3 days ago
 @Haroon Nawaz  people are not converting to Islam Muslim birth rate are higher

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juan abee
juan abee
3 days ago
explain...how did you come to this conclusion:)



Mohd Ghazali
Mohd Ghazali
3 days ago
Lmao, criticizing Islamic faith? You guys never read that books do you? The book is not about Islam but rather contained a message to not follow order particularly religious order blindly and people that always claimed to receive divine revelation. The novel just uses islam as a medium which is why it's causing backlash. The novel itself is about two Indian Muslims woman. First woman is an actress that specialized in Hindu goddess character in Bollywood movie while the second woman is an Indian Muslims who discarded both of her identity as a Muslim and as an Indian and worked as a voice actress in UK. There's three dream sequence related to the first woman. The first is about a man named Mahound (a derogatory named used by orientalists in the past to refer the Islamic Prophet Muhammad) who lived in a city called city of Jahilia (jahilia is a term used by the Islamic scholar to refer time period before the birth of Prophet Muhammad in Arabian peninsula) where one day he tell his followers he received a divine revelation to praise the three pagan goddess of Mecca (three pagan goddess idol) but the next day claimed that he makes a mistake and this is a satanic verses. Search for yourself what is satanic verses incident. The second dream sequence is about an Indian Muslims peasant girl who claimed to receive a divine revelation and entice her entire village community to go on a pilgrimage to Mecca barefoot only for them to died on Arabian Sea and the third dream sequence is a fanatical religious leader called Imam, this one satirised Khomeini of Iran. Since the novel itself satirised Divine Revelation, in India and UK many conservative Christian politicians also hates the novel and called it work of satan itself.



Haroon Nawaz
Haroon Nawaz
3 days ago
 @human race  yeah and you have 2 3 fathers and different brothers and sisters



Haroon Nawaz
Haroon Nawaz
3 days ago
 @William  lol your a joke 🤣 😂 😆



Haroon Nawaz
Haroon Nawaz
3 days ago
 @human race  loving the haters ..carry on ....islam will still grow strongly allhumdullilah....



Haroon Nawaz
Haroon Nawaz
3 days ago
Haters 😆 🤣



Vic Nad
Vic Nad
3 days ago
 @Bâbak  Not dharmic religions though. Critical thinking is encouraged.

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Hypatia
Hypatia
2 days ago
 @Bâbak  they don't really.



Amita’s Poetry 
Amita’s Poetry
1 day ago
Wonderful documentary.   People need to understand that the world of novelists is a huge horizon drawing from imagination and reality to create a story with its own life.  Salman’s magical realism is enchanting and brilliant.  All the zealots trying to kill him over a novel don’t see there are better ways of expressing themselves than by murder.  I salute Mr Rushdie for his courage and wish him full recovery.

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M P
M P
4 days ago
I can't even imagine how horrifying it must be to live in fear every day of your life.  I have ultimate respect for this man for speaking the truth and having a sense of critical thinking.

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M D
M D
3 days ago
You kick a dog and when it bites you, you are a hero. What an interesting take...

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J
J
3 days ago (edited)
 @M D  ok, this guy actually insulted the prophet. What now?
How do you respond?
A journalist insulted your mom publicly in the newspaper and the law considering his insult a type of freedom of speech, what will you do?
How we the people should see the journalist? Should we say: oh this man is a hero, he exposed that woman?
C’mon you can’t use double standards, he’s guilty.

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That Guy
That Guy
3 days ago
 @M D  are you calling the Muslim World a dog? A mature majority should be able to take criticism even if it is unwarranted.

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Scott Carlass
Scott Carlass
3 days ago
 @J    Depends, why did the journalist insult your mom?  Your mom isn't infallible.  Maybe she's wrong. The silence of the free press is the silencing of critical thinking and critical thinking is the greatest enemy of fascism.

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J
J
3 days ago
 @Scott Carlass  she’s innocent but he claims she’s evil. She’s dead so she can’t reply back. He’s trying to spoil the reputation of your mom.
What now? How will you react? Freedom of speech is double standards in this world

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hanna prime
hanna prime
3 days ago
 @M D  DON'T COMPARE MUSLIMS with dogs.. dogs are man's best friend.

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Calico
Calico
3 days ago
 @J  she’s innocent? So you know this for a fact? You were around for the entirety of her life & judge her innocent? You stated it as if it were a fact not an opinion. Shows how biased you are

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Kaz J
Kaz J
4 days ago
My parents are highly educated Muslims who taught me to learn and question everything. They even enrolled me in a Jewish health club and encouraged me to go to church with my friends, to educate me about topics I’d likely be interacting with in the future. I married a girl who was the only educated person in her entire uneducated family. When her basically illiterate parents found out I had read several Rushdie books in addition to the Quran (alas only once, not solely and repeatedly like them, in Arabic no less, a language they don’t even understand) the topic of Satanic Verses came up. I asked them what they didn’t like about the book; they couldn’t answer as they hadn’t even read it, lol. They relied on what some “scholar” (read: televangelist) said about it in TV, and my guess is he hadn’t bothered reading it either. 😂

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Confucius says...
Confucius says...
4 days ago
I highly doubt that Ayatollah Khomeini read it either, before pronouncing his Fatwa on Rushdie... Nor do I think that Hadi Matar read it either before stabbing Rushdie several times.

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Kai Ocampo
Kai Ocampo
4 days ago
LMAO



Mohd Ghazali
Mohd Ghazali
4 days ago (edited)
Have you read the novel by the way? Most of the controversy is actually on the a scenes of dream sequence in the novel. There's three and the first is about a prophet called Mahound (a derogatory term used by the orientalists in the past to refer to the Prophet Muhammad) based on the "satanic verses incident" as the messenger lived in the city of Jahilia (a term that used by islamic scholar to refer to the time before the Prophet Muhammad birth in Arabian peninsula). But while you can find the story in work of some islamic scholar and discuss in the Islamic studies. Islamic scholar considered this as a false story while the orientalists considered it's as true on the account it's unthinkable for the early Muslim to wrote such incidents in their work. Also, there this one scene where the protagonist take on the personality of the archangel Gabriel and this transformation is said to be read partly on a realistic level as the symptom of the protagonist's development of schizophrenia. Make your own decisions wether there's nothing wrong with the book or it's content is too provoking. I don't know, caused this is what I found. Never read the book personally. By the way, the third dream sequence in the novel presents the figure of a fanatic expatriate religious leader, the "Imam", in a late-20th-century setting (this evidently satirizes Khomeini himself) while the second is about an Indian peasant girl that claimed to receive a divine revelation an entice her entire village community to go on a pilgrimage to the city of Mecca barefoot only for her followers to died on the Arabian Sea.

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Mohd Ghazali
Mohd Ghazali
4 days ago (edited)
The novel itself is not about Islam but satirised "Divine Revelation" and to not blindly follow order. But it's uses islamic as a medium. Which is why back then even in UK not just Muslim even Conservative Christian Politicians called it book of evil. The satanic verses is a tale where one day Prophet Muhammad was said to be receiving a divine revelation to praise the three pagan god of Mecca  but the next day the prophet said that is not a a divine revelation but a satanic verses and it's a mistake. While many modern orientalists in the west considered it's as true on the account it's embarrassing and unthinkable for the early Muslim historians to wrote about it and included it in his writing. But there's also some western orientalists doubt that the story is true because the inconsistency of the time of the story and the Revelation itself contradict all of the other Revelation. Those that accepted there might be some truth to the story offered many theory why it happened.

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Confucius says...
Confucius says...
4 days ago
 @Mohd Ghazali  You do realize that the religious scriptures of ALL of the world's religions are ALSO  works of fiction right?

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Mohd Ghazali
Mohd Ghazali
4 days ago (edited)
 @Confucius says...  It's depend on your belief honestly. Tell that to religious individual and think for yourself if that's being respectful or not. From the perspective of the devout believer, if you say something like that to them, then what's the difference between you who are forcing your belief on them and the extremist religious individual that forcing their beliefs to other.

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Mohd Ghazali
Mohd Ghazali
4 days ago (edited)
 @Confucius says...  Beside the discussion of the satanic verses incident is about wether the incidents happened or not. Not wether the scriptures is real or not. Do the Islamic Prophet Muhammad ever revealed a verses that praises the Mecca pagan god and the next day claimed he make a mistake as that verses is satanic OR such incidents never happened at all. To many Muslims, its unthinkable something like that ever happened as they believe the prophet is being divinely protected but to the secular orientalists who study the Islamic history, they obviously have different opinion. Even those orientalists that doubt the incidents ever happened and most likely to be false based their evidence on the inconsistency of the story and the actual timeline of the Prophet Muhammad wether he's in Mecca or Medina. In fact the orientalists that believe it's to be truth and actually happened only based their evidence on the fact that two Muslim historian of the Abbasid era wrote about it and they believe it's unthinkable for a Muslim historians to be writing something about their own prophet mistake.



Kaz J
Kaz J
3 days ago (edited)
 @Mohd Ghazali  Thanks for the synopsis. I’ve read East West Stories (amazing) and The Ground Beneath Her Feet (U2 fan). I am keeping Midnights Children and Satanic Verses for a rainy day to cheer me up. I really enjoy Rushdie’s very unique writing style, and I can postulate how he wrote whatever the controversy is all about. He’s an author and a literary artist; the whole point of art is to provoke emotion. Today we are so used to cancel culture, so it sounds like Rushdie was ahead of the curve by getting cancelled (fatwa) several decades ago! 🤣

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Mohd Ghazali
Mohd Ghazali
3 days ago
 @Kaz J  You're welcome

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Kazuha Toyama
Kazuha Toyama
4 days ago
As someone living in Indonesia, the amount of growing radicalist is very concerning. They keep on trying to dictate how others live and always try to change the constitution to islamic rules despite the country is one of the most diverse in the world in terms of cultures and religions. Disgusting!

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the shuriken
the shuriken
4 days ago
are you an ex-muslim?

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Koala Bear
Koala Bear
4 days ago (edited)
You are mistaken to state that Indonesia is one of the most diverse countries in the world in cultures and religions. The truth is Indonesia has the LARGEST Muslim community worldwide; hence it is not surprising that they will use their majority Muslim population to dictate people's lives and change the constitution to suit their Islamic faith.

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Kazuha Toyama
Kazuha Toyama
4 days ago
Koala Bear yeah but what they don’t realize is that the country was built intentionally on diversity. And these protests and radicalism only happened on the last two decade. It rarely happened before that.

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Kazuha Toyama
Kazuha Toyama
4 days ago
the shuriken no, but my uncle married a muslim woman , we have no problem with it... family is family, no matter what. but woman’s family apparently do, my uncle cut his ties with his family and never looked back.

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u Zan
u Zan
4 days ago
HOAX.... many tourist said happy with Indonesian moeslim. The warm and helping each other,
btw
Indonesia independence from Dutch, England, Japan. And They are not a Moeslim right ?

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Fajar Tris
Fajar Tris
4 days ago
The people of Indonesia will never submit to that kind of radical change in constitution. If that happened, Indonesia will surely collapsed, separated, and turned into chunks of small countries with their own ideology. To keep Indonesia as big and peaceful as today, islamic based constitution or something alike is not the answer. Our people are too diverse to accept that kind of ruling.

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A_teez
A_teez
4 days ago
And in Malaysia too

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Christine Protz
Christine Protz
4 days ago
 @u Zan  not a hoax. When I last visited Indonesia, I could not believe the sheer divide of Muslim and Hindu culture. Literally, you can witness it simply by standing on the beach. Muslim groups there (in general) where unkind and dismissive. Hindus were friendly and welcoming; proud of their community and appreciative of the support of visitors and the impact this has on their livelihood.

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Walrave
Walrave
4 days ago
 @Koala Bear  Indonesia has been infected by radical Islam and the infection will continue growing until it is exorcised. The question is, will the moderate majority be willing to fight or will they allow the country to turn into Afghanistan?

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NormalHuman
NormalHuman
4 days ago
What a well made documentary. This is what we expect from DW. Informative and touching on things about Rushdie we did not have any idea of.

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Me h
Me h
3 days ago
How revealing that the channel only likes comments that praise it and ignores the violence it causes?

How very German.

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Bortz of Sortz
Bortz of Sortz
3 days ago
 @Me h  How is that  "very German"? Explain yourself?

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NormalHuman
NormalHuman
3 days ago
 @Me h  Lol. What violence did DW do to you man!

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AMEYA VARMA
AMEYA VARMA
1 day ago (edited)
 @Me h  actually it doesn’t ignore the violence. At 16:19. When they issue a fatwa. This is something hitler would have done if someone infringed on his beliefs.



Tom Nook
Tom Nook
4 days ago
RIP Hitoshi Igarashi, who made the Japanese translation of the Satanic Verses, and was stabbed to death by the offended cowards.

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Philip Zahra
Philip Zahra
4 days ago
Everyone has the right to write as they feel.
Everyone still has the right to criticize.
But no one from heaven below who believes to believe has the right to kill any human being

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Abdifitah Omar Mohamed
Abdifitah Omar Mohamed
3 days ago
If we criticize jews religion then u called me antisemitism if I say something about my opinion on LGBT then ur saying it's a choice don't be against the pride so if I said Jesus is not of the son of God u will not like me bcz of me saying that so please don't say anything wrong on my prophet mohamed csw don't insult my religion easy

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Poco Phone
Poco Phone
3 days ago
freedom to write humiliation and degrading others

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Kristyna Stefanova
Kristyna Stefanova
3 days ago
Well written! Thank you!



Geegee bosley
Geegee bosley
3 days ago
 @Abdifitah Omar Mohamed  yet you are free to do all those things without being harmed. IT doesn't maatter if people don't like it... If the only defense you have for your ideas is violence, then you and your ideas are weak.

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Waverly Duli
Waverly Duli
3 days ago (edited)
I remember with horror the issuing of that fatwa against you for your book, Satanic Verses, and felt disgust that even some who should have known better criticised the book for maligning aspects of a religion, many without even having read it. I remember thinking that religious intolerance,  indeed attacks on free speech and the currency of ideas just felt like a bad omen, as indeed it has turned out to be.  

As an individual, Mr Salman, you've paid too high a price defending freedom of speech and the right to reflect and discuss ideas. My deepest respect to you.  Wishing you the recovery of your health and freedom that you so richly deserve after this latest outrageous wrong done to you, sir.

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Jenvlogs
Jenvlogs
2 days ago
Also RIP Hitoshi Igarashi, Ettore Capriolo, William Nygaard, Aziz Nesin (the translators). The Sivas massacre took the Iives of 37 intellects. The cuIprits went after Friday prayer, fire fighters also attacked Aziz, all got sentences reduced. Don’t forget the rest.

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eman X
eman X
3 days ago
DW does it again. Awesome documentary. The best on YouTube. My best wishes to Mr. Rushdie. Hope he is doing well and recovering 🙏

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DW Documentary
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Thank you for watching!

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BroBeanz
BroBeanz
8 hours ago
Rushdie's stated purpose as a writer was to antagonize. Looks like he finally got his wish



BroBeanz
BroBeanz
8 hours ago
 @DW Documentary  It is a crime to question the holocaust in your country. Don't pretend you respect free speech. Either antagonistic and insulting words are banned for all groups of people or for none.

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ag2011
ag2011
3 days ago
So refreshing to hear an honest, humourous, well-spoken, open-minded human. We need more like you, Salman!

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Abhi lash
Abhi lash
4 days ago
It's unfortunate tht We as Indians & Indian govt did not support one our own.. he's pride of the country, never stop questioning whatever it is

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aadhi yaanan
aadhi yaanan
4 days ago
Agree

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Rederick Froders
Rederick Froders
4 days ago (edited)
Without discussion, free thought and our attempts at breaking taboos, our society will end up in darkness and fear.
We humans have to be able to freely express ourselves, to think and to discuss. Only through discussion and sharing our opinions and knowledge can we create something new. We CANNOT shut that down!
Fahrenheit 451 is a good book.

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Dawn FM
Dawn FM
3 days ago
We should also protect those who speaks against diabolical Hindu caste discrimination.

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A M
A M
3 days ago
vote hindutva

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Calico
Calico
3 days ago
 @Rederick Froders  strong agree. I remember watching the movie as a child. It saddened me to see the books burning. As a man, I understand what Bradbury was warning about- him & other great authors of his time

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Vatsmith
Vatsmith
4 days ago
Religious people don't care if they offend non-believers with their holy texts so why should non-believers care if the faithful are offended by secular texts?

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starlord
starlord
4 days ago
I am someone who gladly left Islam. I just want to say that these incidents confirm my decision. If your religion/God (whether its radical Islam, Hindutva or any extreme ideology) is weak enough that it requires you to attack/abuse someone then you better leave it.

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Devyan Utsav
Devyan Utsav
4 days ago
True I too left chritianity

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mars
mars
4 days ago
 @Devyan Utsav  ROFL 🤣

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Nasreen? what do we do hav Ali
Nasreen? what do we do hav Ali
4 days ago
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤧🤧🤧😈😈😈😈

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M
M
4 days ago
High fives to both of you, I'm an ex-Catholic. Here's to thinking for ourselves and realizing we are good without god

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Mr Simple
Mr Simple
3 days ago
 @Devyan Utsav  thanks to Rushdi,  many friends of mine and they're islam already left islam.. Their eyes already open

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Kiki 3984
Kiki 3984
4 days ago
It’s true what he said, people have no problem marking fun of Jews or Christinas but they are very reluctant to make fun of Muslims. I wonder what is the reason for that ?

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Heidi Verna Thorbjørnsen
Heidi Verna Thorbjørnsen
4 days ago
Because radical Muslims have no problem using violence & intimidation .

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Emil Eriksen
Emil Eriksen
3 days ago
And thats why you have to keep making fun of them, whatever you do.

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Abhinash Kumar
Abhinash Kumar
3 days ago
 @Emil Eriksen  👍

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Sam Sharma
Sam Sharma
3 days ago
Sar tan se juda ( beheading)

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Ram dular Singh
Ram dular Singh
3 days ago
We want the Nobel Prize for Literature for Salman Rushdie now. No more delay now for him.

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jason4275
jason4275
4 days ago (edited)
I'm willing to bet 99% of Muslims didn't even read the book.

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V I I I Λ
V I I I Λ
4 days ago
Of course, they hadn't, don't, and will not.

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John Coleman
John Coleman
4 days ago
‘I haven’t read it but I condemn it’

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Jibril
Jibril
4 days ago
​ @John Coleman  yes get well soon

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Abdel El man
Abdel El man
4 days ago
So what cry me a rivier.

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Mark L
Mark L
4 days ago
 @Abdel El man  blind follower

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be kus
be kus
4 days ago
It's not your business

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mihir shah
mihir shah
4 days ago
They don't read any books except 1

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jithin
jithin
4 days ago
A lot of them of them can't even read read

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Geo What
Geo What
1 day ago
I simply wish he gets well soon and writes 10 times more books than he has already written

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Vivian Poku
Vivian Poku
3 days ago
Freedom of expression, to criticize, to ask questions and to encourage open debate ON ANY TOPIC or SUBJECT is an extremely important fundamental human right that we can never ever give up no matter the consequences. Salman Rushdie and all the other journalists and writers who risk their lives to fight for this human right are simply unsung heroes that deserve their place in history as pioneers of human civilization and progress. Protection of our human right to speak and question everything is worth fighting for and we must never give this up! ✊

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xrayfish2020
xrayfish2020
4 days ago
Did Salman Rushdie ever think that he was safe? A sad turn of events, but in reality the fatwah as shown in this documentary, had never been lifted or so we all thought it had! I do hope he makes a full recovery from this bloody awful attack. DW thanks for sharing again from London.

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Konstantin Linskiy
Konstantin Linskiy
2 days ago
Freedom of speech and expression should be stood up for!

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Dave-oh
Dave-oh
2 hours ago
A beautiful documentary about one of the greatest writer's of the 20th century. I hope he recovers and his bravery teaches the world about the dangers of extremism.



Moneda Meow
Moneda Meow
4 days ago
Now the book will rise again in sales. I mean, might not be the best book ever written but we need a healthy dose of critisism to keep on growing, otherwise we stall to death. May the book never be forgotten at least as a way to know the history behind some of the fanatism some religious people (of any religión), show and is ready to go to unthinkable lenghts

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Lokesh G sadhmaya
Lokesh G sadhmaya
3 days ago
This is another masterpiece from DW.
You are the last hope of quality and unbiased journalism.
Keep it up 👍
Love from India ❤️

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R DLF
R DLF
4 days ago
All the best to a great Man like Salman Rushdie!! Whatever they do, they might kill the man but they'll never kill the idea!

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Jan M
Jan M
4 days ago
Today's news of his recovery is a perfect antidote...long live Sal..

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Nerdy 🤓
Nerdy 🤓
2 days ago
Being a Rational Muslim, it’s immensely embarrassing for me that I cannot even defend this guy in front of my fellow Muslims.

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托马斯
托马斯
4 days ago
Protesting against Salman Rushdie's Satanic verses whilst performing satanic rituals, oh the irony.

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Eric
Eric
4 days ago (edited)
Words should never be a reason to resort to violence. We are all entitled to utter whatever words we want, on any subject whatsoever. In fact, it's intolerance which is the only true evil today. Whether it's from a christian or a muslim, or whomever.

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John Baugh
John Baugh
3 hours ago
I remember in 1989 we discussed his book in my high school government class in Texas. My teacher was also a fairly conservative Baptist minister outside of class. He discussed how we need freedom of speech, even when offensive. You either support freedom of speech, or you don’t. This is America he’d say. That always stuck with me. I hope Rushdie recovers well.



Veronica
Veronica
3 days ago
The subject is very complicated, I wish the writer Salman Rushdie a speedy recovery, and I wish the progress of humanity, which has long been mired in the mud of intellectual shallowness and ignorance and stuffed its brains with old myths and legends. Renounce any person criticizes her ideology,wherever she was, it is horrific and very sad ....

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Khadija RH
Khadija RH
4 days ago
That criminal just proved Salman Rushdie's point

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Tony Chenh
Tony Chenh
4 days ago
Now I certainly am going to read this book.

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Fadi Hajj Hassan
Fadi Hajj Hassan
4 days ago
He is a brave man

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Crissy
Crissy
2 days ago
What a GREAT, Brave man! 👏👏👏👏   I throughly enjoyed the documentary, well done, DW!

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Shikha Sharma
Shikha Sharma
4 hours ago
Here in India in my school this person's stories and work is very much Admired, since our school focuses a lot on Literature and Philosophy. Its sad to see what happened to him .



Dusty Kashi Feathers
Dusty Kashi Feathers
4 days ago (edited)
Thank You DW for this very well done documentary. Blessed be Salman Rushdie, Nikos Kazantzakis, Sigmund Freud, Emma Goldman, Mark Twain, Karl Marx and all authors throughout the world, going back to Diogenes and Socrates, who've been courageous enough to stand up for freedom of expression in the face of hostile religious leaders, politicians, bullies and thugs. Please feel free to include others whom i've neglected. ✨🙏🏽🌍🙏🏽✨

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SHUBHAM HISSARIA
SHUBHAM HISSARIA
3 days ago
I have some Muslim friends from "bohra muslim" community whose ancestors where forcefully converted to Islam. They acknowledge this that their forefathers were humiliated, raped and converted at gunpoint but they are now are afraid to take any steps back because they fear in their community in which they live now could harm them and the 2 generations who have lived in fundamental islamist environment has lost their old identity. Salman Rushdie correctly said this has been happening in the east and now i am seeing the same happening in west as well. My friends just don't want to go back to their home.

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Curliee Loks
Curliee Loks
2 days ago
May Jesus protect this man and build a hedge around him . I pray for his speedy recovery . This is awful to live your life in hiding 🙏🤍

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i don have any idea what to call my account
i don have any idea what to call my account
3 days ago
Literally only found out about his book after his attack, great way to make the public aware of his works

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LeagueOfAram
LeagueOfAram
4 days ago
the fact that you can't have a bad opion about a religion only proofs he was right. we should not alow this in our europe

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Olga 
Olga
2 days ago (edited)
A heartfelt embrace, Mr. Rushdie, hoping you recover soon and regain your health.All religions have forbidden books throughout history and mostly have hidden them away, eg in The Vatican.  The huge difference is that Rushdie published in modern days where it is definitely harder to censor and hide knowledge.  Christopher Hitchens, I can imagine his passionate   response to this if he were still with us.  Miss you so much, Hitch, sniff.

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Mike NoGoZones
Mike NoGoZones
2 days ago
I am wishing Salman Rushdie a speedy recovery.  🙏

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AstroTamil
AstroTamil
4 days ago
He is man of honor.

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omar hassan
omar hassan
3 days ago
I am a Somali and shocked by  the magnitude of hatred and ignorance in the hearts of my fellow Muslims, when it comes to dealing with  criticism against Islam and Prophet Mohammed! 

Killing and threatening can’t be a solution. What a stupidity!

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mindob76
mindob76
3 days ago
I can bet that none of the people that protested against him and called for his death didn't even know what the book was about

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andrew omo
andrew omo
3 days ago
Am listening 🎧...genius must not die

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Sai S
Sai S
3 days ago
Great documentary! Well done DW. Hope he recovers soon. More power to him and others like him who are speaking up against fanaticism and radicalism. 💪💪

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Shravya Amin
Shravya Amin
3 days ago
Unfortunately the same thing would happen with nupur sharma while our educated milords think that even the man who supported her on Facebook died because of her....if the educated folks are ready to fight for justice then ignorance of the radicals will prevail......... Prayers with Salman Rushdie

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An NKK
An NKK
4 days ago
If at least 50% of the people worldwide were as smart and broadminded as Rushdie, life would be amazing, no wars and stupidities based on religions would occur.

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jerry
jerry
4 days ago
THE DW DOCUMENTARIES ARE ALWAYS ON FLEEK NEVER KNEW THIS MAN BEFORE NOW I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING

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S M
S M
3 days ago (edited)
For the sake of peace and to promote civilized interactions among the nations of the world all should try to answer words by words and consider violence as last resort only if their right to use words or communication is taken away or blocked.
Truth has many aspects and every group has it's own extremists and radicals.
Two high points in this documentary;
1- By a professor of Islamic studies in an open letter to international herald tribune.
2- By Mr Rushdie when he says; "It is obviously wrong that people should be discriminated against their religion....but its equally wrong to protect the religion(s) from all criticism."
Hopefully the agreement between Britain and Iran will survive and remain valid.

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Ram dular Singh
Ram dular Singh
3 days ago
INDIA is always with him no matter whether people in power are with Salman or not. Keep writing dude.....

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x 1
x 1
3 days ago (edited)
My old man once said : embrace whoever doubt your idealism. You may rage, or loose faith, but if you strong enough to stay, your believe become undoubtable, strong as arctic winds....

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Gregory Swain
Gregory Swain
1 day ago
Grimus was my first exposure to Salman, and I LOVED that novel - still make references from it to this day! Try everything twice...

Also still have a first edition of Satanic Verses, which my mom asked to read :)

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reynos chicote
reynos chicote
4 days ago
i highly appreciate this writer, salman rushdie.

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Kim jr.
Kim jr.
3 days ago
Peaceful community spreading peace everywhere.......

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yannicklepaleo
yannicklepaleo
2 days ago
All my support to this great brave man against obscurentism

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Kastanerator
Kastanerator
4 days ago
I ordered his book, i would never heard about it if Salman Rushdie wasn't attacked.
I can't wait to receive and read it !
This is what you won, dear islamists.

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Jez
Jez
4 days ago
“Ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to hatred, and hatred leads to violence. This is the equation.”
Avveroes....

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Sachin Vartak
Sachin Vartak
3 days ago (edited)
People want to read what they like. Wonderful documentary as always.

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Rebellious Butterly vlogs
Rebellious Butterly vlogs
2 days ago
As a bengali, radicalisation in my country is growing as well, they are instilled with fear at a young age

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Varun Singhania
Varun Singhania
1 day ago
Long Live Rushdie for making more such Masterpieces !!!!

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Jahru
Jahru
2 days ago
Very wise and heroic man!
I hope he heals fast.
God bless.

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Phylicia ATL
Phylicia ATL
4 days ago
He seems like a nice man ...I hope he is able to recover mentally and physically 🙏

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SantoKun
SantoKun
2 days ago (edited)
Amazing & very powerful documentary, DW.

As someone who is from the Indian subcontinent, Islamic radicalism is one of the frightening things I have experienced ever in my life & this is coming from someone who is part of the “majority sect of Islam” in that particular country. Imagine, how minorities feel about it, let alone people like Rushdie. Western world still can’t comprehend the dangers of it.

P.S. Before some bum in the comments go, “BUT WHAT ABOUT X RELIGION, Reeeeeee!”, this commentary applies to radicalisation of any religion.



Vamshi Krishna
Vamshi Krishna
3 days ago
Documentary is Wonderfully made 👌 good work DW. Keeping producing these productive work. Hope to see one day productive and progressive video about India and it's growth and progress in the last 8 years.

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RAWTWT
RAWTWT
4 days ago
What a great man, people are so ridiculous to get riled up over his book. Just shows how weak your beliefs are if that is the fact, God bless him glad he is doing well. I hope they put the guy who stabbed him in general population...

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Nadia Gifford
Nadia Gifford
1 day ago
ultimate respect for him

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Roozs
Roozs
4 days ago
Glad to see Sir Salman recovering well. All the protesting muslims should know that the rest of the world laughs at them for being so un-able to accept any criticism!

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Manik Kalore
Manik Kalore
3 days ago
" It wasn't foreseen it was just paying attention.."  what beautiful line.

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Tasty Toast
Tasty Toast
2 days ago (edited)
A reluctant martyr. Thankfully he seems to be recovering AND a small wake up for Western culture. The growing divisions and incursions of radicals must be confronted, smartly and consciously

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Andis Boljat
Andis Boljat
3 days ago
It sounds like this great man’s family had a beautiful culture within itself.

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MrBizaaro
MrBizaaro
2 days ago
Excellent documentary. I didn't know anything about this until the incident, now I am interested to pick up the book and read.

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vish2bnice
vish2bnice
2 days ago
It will take centuries for certain people to accept paradox of historical facts or different opinions on people or things they love.

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R. Casagrande
R. Casagrande
3 days ago
Inthe free world we have the right to criticize religion, politics, art and anything we want, if you don't like freedom, leave immediately.

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R Krish
R Krish
2 days ago (edited)
his way of explaining things show he is a good writer!

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Ankit Nigam
Ankit Nigam
3 days ago
Superb Documentary !!!!
Hope Salman will get well soon.

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Kein_ indianer
Kein_ indianer
2 days ago
It's a shame for all human beings if we're not able to tolerate fictional work for whichever reasons. Salman Rushdie hasn't deserved to be hunted for his book.