2026/11/13

Christian, are you missing the point?

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Carey Nieuwhof
 
Christian, are you missing the point?
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Peter Chen
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 19:03
Wrong : the aim is to conform to His image. From the beginning.
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Larry Uii
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 21:28
"I go to prepare a place for you".....
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Paul B Titus
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 21:27
The aim of faith is to be transformed spiritually to be like Jesus. When we die we await the passing away of this time and for the new heaven and earth to come whete we will dwell.
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Eric Rathburn
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 22:01
It’s about the restoration of Eden.
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Jenny Stirling
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 12:31
Just imagine: you live a life full of peace and love; enjoying the good things in life as well as a few struggles. And then you get old and the body starts to fade. Isn’t that a good life and wouldn’t you be ok about letting go after a life lived that way?
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Sue Renno
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 00:41
I am currently reading Surprised By Hope by NT Wright and find it exciting to discover his arguments. I don't appreciate smug comments from non-theologians whose beliefs are set in stone, regardless of new evidence or perspectives. Open our eyes, Lord. Let him who has ears, let him hear!
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Tore Thrana
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 22:48
Note that he's saying "most western christians". Why not eastern as well? Because this is mainly a catholic/protestant problem. The orthodox churches have a different mindset. Theosis is key☦️
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Christian Thompson
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 21:35
When does His kingdom come to earth? We don't bring it down; His spirit is in us so we are the light in the world. His Kingdom will be established at His second coming.
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Jan Schade
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 01:09
Yes! It's literally the 2nd and 3rd petition in The Lord's Prayer:
"Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."
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William R Allison Jr.
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 01:49
Not either/or. Both/and
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John Ingram
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 11:52
Where does my soul abide?
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Ju Co
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 22:18
Bringing God's kingdom down to earth will happen, not by our might and power. The whole point is to be on God's side whether in heaven or in earth.
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Winifred Jeavons
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 09:40
My parson father practised and taught this heaven on earth faith 90 yearsago. . The other self centred soul saving theology has surged forward in the last 50-60 years. But my own minister is earth centred , which is why it started foodshare in our town .
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Charles Starkey
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 04:14
This gives me pause to relect. I wonder what the comments will bring out.
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Eileen Todd
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 07:42
The phrase “immortal soul “ is not in the Bible. “Thy kingdom come “ is.
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Gerry Lynch
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 03:18
"I believe that He will come in glory to judge both the living and the dead."
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Paul Saunders-Priem
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 10:03
"Thy kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven." It's the same in the Baha'i Faith my religion. We're to build a new world based on "Love our neighbour" or as it is called in the Baha'i Faith "the unity of the human race."
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Say Phy Ho
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 22:05
Why then Jesus Christ died for?
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Toke Herkild
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 09:54
This is something that seems important before Jesus, after Jesus, it really doesn't matter to you anymore.
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Albert Peter Krueger
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 01:24
Old theologians never die...they just fade away.
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Rolland Fitch
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 07:51
I have preached this subject many times and it is always that the aim of a disciple is to make more disciples who will bring about the Kingdom here.
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Kenny Borthwick
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 05:28
Half truth is the devil's way is it not?
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Phil Smith
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 19:49
and THAT makes sense of "come follow me."
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Daniel Mark
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 08:05
N.T. Wright has it perfectly together!!! The whole point of redemption and eternal salvation isn't primarily about going to heaven but for God to redeem believing people unto Himself and come and dwell with us in the new heaven and the new earth, which is the restoration of Eden! This is infinitely more exciting and purposeful than just knowing the Lord and going to heaven upon death. Of course, true saints all enter heaven but heaven isn't our final or ultimate home! Hallelujah 🙏!
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Steven Decker
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 06:47
Then you have a problem with Phillipians 3:20. Our citizenship is in Heaven...
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David Flanders
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 04:13
Heretic I’m afraid
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Marietjie Van Dyk Terblanche
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 00:51
And to make EVErybody to unbeliEVE what we ARE veliev8ng is THE TRUTH will set us free! Jesus taught His desiples how to pray to be(e) deLIVEred from EVIL to LIVE a LIFE of true worship! It's so UnBELIEVablE that GOD made us fully AdeQUAte wHATever we want to EXept NOTHING can seperate *U*s from the LOVE of GOD...not even if we don't love ourselves FOR God loved the WOR(L)D and send His Son to help and resque us from NOT BELIEVING in ourselves or anything on earth as in heaven. And this is a knock out for someone who CAN BELIEVE that they can open business!!! PLEAse mind your own business?¿ a saying with a great message of HOPE deferred maketh the heart sick. COMMUNicatION is a essential part of our GevernMentalWELLBEING....Without the dARKroom proses the reaSONing proses of development we cannot move foward. From this day FOWARD!!! The ReNEWing of our mind is so impor(T)an*t*s and EXport TAX get very very HIGH....To maintain our BALANCE we HAVE to HAVE focus to bring the HArVEst in....When it's time for our SHARES(The True Gospel) to VEST it will show if we used our time and money wisely. A inVESTment with a high riks factor attatched to "it is finished!!!" or one with a regular income for the more conservative inVESTer....Without faith?¿....Sometimes we take a hUge step(Leap year) of faith even if we can't see a cloud in the air. M8nd my english...I Am Mindfull of everything God have in store for us who BELIEVE that Jesus Rose(With LOVE a Bunch Of Roses) from the dead on the third day. I will serve no foREIGN GOD's nor any other treaSUREs. We have to have the truth(LOVE) to preach and practice(LOVE) the truth....anything less than the TRUST calls for decernment. Test the spirits and see if they are from God or NOTHING can seperate us from the LOVE of GOD. Jesus sweeared by Himself that no one will enter into His fathers REST but through Him(The Son/GENtllEman?¿ A Gentleman can open the door for a virtues women to be(e) herself because he don't have any lack of selfRESpecT or confidence. COINcidence? To EXperience your wife as the BEST catCH for the day, a GENtlEman can EXperience her as the PROVERBS women. Solomon?¿ or ?¿ were as WISE as a serpent and harmless as a dove. God knows EXactly what He planned for us(Jeremiah 29:11... the weeping prophet?¿) To take advantage of someone elses gifts and talents can harm only ourselves. TemperAMEN*T*al issues(The women with the issue of blood were heaLED after years and years of suffering)
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Anthony Wozniak
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 05:23
Our purpose is to glorify God. Like Jesus said, He came to glorify the Father (John 17) and we are made in His image. "Thy Kingdom come" is a prophesy for the Jews that is yet to be fulfilled, not until the millennial reign starts. Christ followers are currently showing all of Heaven AND Earth that God's goodness prevails over our wicked and prideful hearts. After all, 1/3 of the angels sided with Lucifer. There had to be some on the fence and through our sin, they can see pride as the loser. We are to take our sanctified new creation of a heart on mission, sharing the light of Jesus through and only through the power of the Holy Spirit who dwells in us. If it doesn't point to Jesus, throw it out. We should aim to go to Heaven and challenge our salvation with fear and trembling. There is no such thing as purgatory. It's nowhere in the Bible and if you believe that is a real place, I pray you do a deep dive into the God's word.
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Paul Costanzo
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 07:04
That is so generalized! We are all sinners!!! God/Jesus believers HOPEFULLY and in most cases may sin less and definitely understand "right from wrong" more deeply and live a life with minimal sins preformed. Most over the top Christians don't drink, don't smoke. don't cus, go to church twice a week or more, help the needy etc. While there are exceptions, and like I said, EVERYBODY WILL SIN, acknowledgment of those sins will be realized, corrected and forgiven. As opposed to outright insanity and hate all the time.
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Ricardo M Letelier
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 06:09
To me these are two sides of the same coin. As divine instruments, our actions are grounded and are a projection of our spirituality. In this context, a prayer of Saint John Henry Cardinal Newman comes to mind: Dear Jesus, help me to spread Your fragrance everywhere I go.
Flood my soul with Your spirit and life.
Penetrate and possess my whole being so utterly,
That my life may only be a radiance of Yours.
Shine through me, and be so in me
That every soul I come in contact with
May feel Your presence in my soul.
Let them look up and see no longer me, but only Jesus!
Stay with me and then I shall begin to shine as You shine,
So to shine as to be a light to others;
The light, O Jesus will be all from You; none of it will be mine;
It will be you, shining on others through me.
Let me thus praise You the way You love best, by shining on those around me.
Let me preach You without preaching, not by words but by my example,
By the catching force of the sympathetic influence of what I do,
The evident fullness of the love my heart bears to You.
Amen.
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Meg Underdown
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 06:58
I keep stressing the Lord's Prayer.
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Denny Freeland
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 00:45
It’s both/and. Not heaven-minded escapism, but not secular human progress with w cross shaped corporate logo behind it either.
We’re called to make this world look more like the Kingdom of God while we’re here, but we’re also preparing for the fullness of that Kingdom when Christ returns. We can’t reduce our hope to what we can accomplish here. We have work to do now and a promise we’re still waiting for God to fulfill.
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Howard Ernest Davies
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 09:52
Plausably true, however these "one thing" thelogical professions appear as a mix of the "one thing" line in City Slickers and the old Catholic indulgence "one penny" thing.
If you are lucky enough to live long enough in Christianiy you will experience 3 crisis phases in my observation:
1- Trusting God for your circumstances, commonly at place where you come to the end of yourself.
2- Trusting God in unforseen and bewildering circumstances.
3- Trusting God in spite of cruel circumstances like news that your diagnosis that your condition as terminal or betrayals by people you trust.
For whatever reason I feel good about what he says, yet frustrations and doubts frustrate all the faithful from time to time.
The good news is God is always faithful whether we feel it or lack faith and fume and fret amidst our despair.
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Carolyn Lloyd Britt
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 00:02
The whole point of Christianity is that I am a sinner, helpless to escape God’s righteous judgment. Therefore, God created a way that I can be saved, and His righteous judgment will be satisfied. I choose to accept the gift given by Jesus on the cross to pay my sin debt. Therefore, my life has been purchased and it is not my own.
The whole point of Christianity is to tell people about that free gift. If you refuse to accept that gift, your life remains your own, and the debt remains in your name. You will pay that debt when Jesus comes again to judge the world. The whole Bible proclaims this.
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Paul Wareing
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 05:14
Surely both!
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Peter Chen
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 20:34
If you don’t have the righteousness of Christ you can’t see the kingdom. That is the aim of Christianity. That can only can be achieve when you have faith in Christ.
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Nathaniel C Robinson
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 07:15
There will be a new heaven and earth and this planet will pass away.
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Chang Liu
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 03:51
【1Co15:19】If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.
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Lynn Hansen
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 07:32
I read both of his books on this. It's very encouraging.
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Aaron Bauer
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Thursday 12 November 2026 at 14:03
This point matters tremendously!
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Daniel Gorin
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 08:31
NT is dynamite!
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Melinda MacNucater
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Friday 13 November 2026 at 12:58
Who is it?
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