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Francis of Assisi
by
William R. Cook,
Ronald B. Herzman
4.15 · Rating details · 109 ratings · 17 reviews
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Course Lecture Titles
1. Why Francis of Assisi Is Alive Today
2. The Larger World Francis Inherited
3. The Local World Francis Inherited
4. From Worldly Knight to Knight of Christ
5. Francis and the Church
6. Humility, Poverty, Simplicity
7. Preaching and Ministries of Compassion
8. Knowing and Experiencing Christ
9. Not Francis AloneThe Order(s) Francis Founded
10. Not Men AloneSt. Clare and St. Francis
11. The Franciscans After Francis
12. A Message for Our Time (less)
Audio CD, Great Courses, #615, 6 pages
Published 2000 by The Great Courses (first published March 1st 1975)
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Nov 15, 2018Corey Wozniak rated it it was ok
I’m very interested in the subject of this study, but was unimpressed by these lectures. The two professors are genuine, and surely they’re knowledgeable. But I found their tag-teaming of the lectures distracting, their voices and verbal tics mildly annoying (sorry), and the lectures somewhat repetitive and ramble-y. This has been my least favorite “Great Course” so far. Maybe I’ll check out Chesterton’s biography instead.
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May 18, 2015Julie Davis rated it it was amazing
This is a simply superb overview of Francis' life, covering everything from the context of his actions in his times, to modern his influence on modern times. I especially appreciated their approach to St. Clare as her own person and not just someone who copied St. Francis. (less)
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Mar 23, 2017Dariko rated it it was amazing · review of another edition
I love professor W. Cook and thoroughly enjoyed his lecture on Francis of Assisi from the Great Courses, which he presented together with his colleague R. Herzman. This book is a little gem and will be a valuable addition to my collection of books about my favourite Saint.
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Jun 23, 2019Jim rated it liked it
Shelves: biography, historical-narrative, philosophy, religion, tgc
St Francis is a really famous saint (statues and everything), yet few really know much about his life and contributions ("Oh...didn't he like birds and found the Franciscans?"). These brief lectures really don't add much about his life, other than he was born rich...then angered his father...was disowned...stripped naked to renounce his family and fortune...made friends with influential people (like a pope)...like animals...apparently received stigmatization (like St Paul)...tried to be martyred...died young. Many viewed this humble (grubby?) man as a Christ-like figure, espousing Jesus' teachings without the Jewish reformer cloak. I see him more as a St Paul-type evangelist, spreading the 'Good news' of Christianity.
It seems he was a mild-mannered, good sort of man, bent on living a life of poverty. His legacy lives on through the Order of the Franciscans...a charitable (and quite admirable) organization devoted to helping the poor, and eschewing wealth (even though much wealth is required to help people in need.
This is a good introduction course, but lacks the background to be a really great one.
It's a blessing that the course is often on sale...
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Jul 31, 2019Irena Pasvinter rated it it was ok
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I'm not sure I liked the idea of two professors ( William R. Cook and Ronald B. Herzman) lecturing together in a weird academic duo -- not each of them doing a separate lecture but both speaking in turns on the same topic and with the same attitude, more or less echoing each other's thoughts.
Also, there was lots of praising of Francis of Assisi, admiration with his essence and legacy, explaining why and how he was such a great Christian, retelling of the stories about his great miracles and discussing how modern Christians could attempt follow in his steps. What seriously lacked was the scientific approach. The great "miracles" were never discussed scientifically. For example, it was simply stated a number of times that Francis miraculously received his stigmata (the wounds similar to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ) as the final step of his way to embrace Jesus. No attempt was made to give a scientific explanation of the origin of his miraculous wounds although modern research can provide it. Obviously, faced with a Christian miracle, the distinguished professors are not in the least interested in the scientific research of the phenomena. (less)
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Mar 14, 2021Devon Neisen rated it it was amazing
It’s like a 12 part podcast on Francis of Assisi
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Apr 17, 2014Angela rated it it was amazing
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It turns out there are a lot of inaccurate / overly dramatic / apocryphal accounts out there about Francis of Assisi, so I was pleased to find one based on actual research & primary sources penned by two Francis experts. Fascinating & with just the amount of detail I was looking for. I learned a lot not just only about Francis but also culture, politics, Christianity / Catholicism, and life in general in that part of Italy at that time.
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Jul 21, 2022Dale rated it really liked it · review of another edition
A Review of the Audiobook
Published in 2013 by The Great Courses.
Lectures by William R. Cook and Ronald B. Herzman.
Duration: 6 hours, 10 minutes.
Unabridged.
The idea behind The Great Courses is a simple one - take a college lecture course given by an expert that knows how to give an interesting lecture and package it up as an audiobook that anyone can listen to.
In the case of this audiobook, there are two college professors that have a great chemistry together and really enjoy a discussion of St. Francis.
Before this audiobook, I knew only the barest of details of St. Francis so I found the entire discussion interesting and informative.
I do have a rather big complaint about the way the information was presented, however. They start with a biography of St. Francis up until the moment when he becomes recognized by the Pope and his movement is up and going. From that moment, they move to a...
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Feb 04, 2021Susannah rated it it was amazing
Hooray for Professors Bill Cook and Ron Herzman - both are really knowledgeable experts and writers in their own right. But what's magical is the two of them in collaboration, which is tough to do without making it competitive. What I love about the two of them together is how they build upon each other with their own passion, personality and perspective. This is the first title I've finished with the two of them as co-authors, and now I'm going to go to St. Augustine's Confessions next. They do a fantastic job of bringing to contemporary life the historical context of St. Francis' time. Plus they tie in the most interesting points of all the books and movies about St. Francis in to a riveting, centralized point of view. (less)
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Dec 09, 2019B. rated it really liked it
I enjoyed this lecture series. Learned much about Francis and about Assisi. Didn't know he was a wealthy merchant's son who loved fabulous clothing, then gave it up. I think pleasure led to his feeling purposeless. He needed the challenge of poverty. On top of that, he wanted to live like the Lord Jesus - without a home, etc. Very nice. He fits in well with my own interest in minimalism and simplicity.
The lecturers also talk about those who were intrigued by him, or inspired by him. I had never heard of Clare and her poverty movement. I will check out more about her. Francis continues to intrigue me. I also love the great detail that this lecture gives. I'll check out more of these. (less)
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Aug 20, 2019Keith rated it really liked it · review of another edition
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I confess: I was the most mediocre of mediocre students of the lecturers, and cannot recall if they offered and I took their class on Francis of Assisi. I probably would have passed with a B.
But this course is a good introduction to Francis: a captivating personality, saint, and human.
I'm not sure if I can judge how well the material was presented, because, despite it being 20+ years since I took a Cook or Herzman course, their banter, solo and team-up, is too familiar. (less)
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Nov 27, 2018A rated it really liked it
Good depth in describing a person so many people think they know about. Inspired me to learn more about St. Francis.
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Sep 09, 2021lconnor rated it really liked it
BEAUTIFUL
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Jan 26, 2022Scott Thompson rated it it was amazing
Good book about a good dude. Listen to the audio book. I loved the podcast style interplay between the narrators. I really like biographies, real life is so fascinating.
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Jul 27, 2019Steve Kimes rated it it was amazing
An excellent introduction to Francis and his influence.
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Oct 16, 2017Carol Bakker rated it liked it
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A good overview of the founder of the Franciscans. I was skeptical about two teachers, but their style of expanding on the other's view without interrupting was quite enjoyable. (less)
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Jan 22, 2010Bob Nichols rated it liked it
This Teaching Company course is a good, first introduction to Francis of Assisi, and the Franciscan order that was built upon his work. At a point in his early adulthood, Francis turned from a path of self-orientation toward the world outside of himself. This turnabout stems from his new allegiance, not to his earthly father, but to "the one in heaven." Francis renounced the material world of things and possession, and put his energy into the things of Christ. This was compassion for the poor and suffering, and Francis' self-transcendence brought him joy, a feeling of closeness to God, as did the creations of nature. All were "foot prints to God."
The teachers of the course do a good job of conveying Francis' energy and passion. They argue that the suffering of others and the beauty of nature were for Francis expressions of God. Yet, an alternative way to look at Francis is whether he was a naturally compassionate soul - the best of evolution's creations - and whether it was this that gave Francis his transcendent feeling (losing himself) and whether what he attributed to God (Father archetype?) might have been his, Francis', own majestic expression.
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Reviewed in the United States on February 1, 2009
I love The Teaching Company. For Christmas I picked up several audio courses for my husband to enjoy as he drives to and from work each day on his cassette player in the car.
My husband is not the only one to benefit from the gift, as I've been listening to Francis of Assisi over the past few weeks and I've got to give the audio lecture two thumbs up.
The Francis of Assisi course is given by two professors, William R. Cook Ph.D. and Ronald B. Herzman Ph.D.. The two work great together in delivering the lectures and they keep it upbeat -- not always an easy thing to do.
As a Catholic I am used to reading a lot of hagiography. This course is not hagiography. You will instead hear the life of Francis put into a secular, historical perspective. This is a good thing. It is important for me as a homeschooler to take Church history and the lives of the Saints and learn about them in relation to the World.
The Church does not exist in a vacuum. The Saints do not live in a vacuum. In modern times we can put this idea into action by recalling the life of Mother Teresa. This holy nun did not live in her own little world but impacted the world of politics, media, and social justice. We saw her on stage with President Clinton, arm and arm with Princess Dianna, on the news caring for the poor and sick. She was shaped by our modern world and we were shaped in a way by her presence.
This is true too for St. Francis. He is a product of the middle ages. And the middle ages were in a way shaped by St. Francis. His impact on the world continues through today. The Teaching Company course Francis of Assisi gives us that perspective. We gain insight into the times of St. Francis, from the economics to the politics of the day. Professors Cook and Herzman also give us insight into how St. Francis and his followers (including St. Clare and her followers) continues to shape the world today.
The course comes with a Course Guidebook which outlines each of the lectures for you. It would be good for to go over the outline before listening to each course. I think this course would be a great addition to any high school history course as well as an enjoyable learning experience for any adult.
My husband is not the only one to benefit from the gift, as I've been listening to Francis of Assisi over the past few weeks and I've got to give the audio lecture two thumbs up.
The Francis of Assisi course is given by two professors, William R. Cook Ph.D. and Ronald B. Herzman Ph.D.. The two work great together in delivering the lectures and they keep it upbeat -- not always an easy thing to do.
As a Catholic I am used to reading a lot of hagiography. This course is not hagiography. You will instead hear the life of Francis put into a secular, historical perspective. This is a good thing. It is important for me as a homeschooler to take Church history and the lives of the Saints and learn about them in relation to the World.
The Church does not exist in a vacuum. The Saints do not live in a vacuum. In modern times we can put this idea into action by recalling the life of Mother Teresa. This holy nun did not live in her own little world but impacted the world of politics, media, and social justice. We saw her on stage with President Clinton, arm and arm with Princess Dianna, on the news caring for the poor and sick. She was shaped by our modern world and we were shaped in a way by her presence.
This is true too for St. Francis. He is a product of the middle ages. And the middle ages were in a way shaped by St. Francis. His impact on the world continues through today. The Teaching Company course Francis of Assisi gives us that perspective. We gain insight into the times of St. Francis, from the economics to the politics of the day. Professors Cook and Herzman also give us insight into how St. Francis and his followers (including St. Clare and her followers) continues to shape the world today.
The course comes with a Course Guidebook which outlines each of the lectures for you. It would be good for to go over the outline before listening to each course. I think this course would be a great addition to any high school history course as well as an enjoyable learning experience for any adult.
Reviewed in the United States on July 18, 2007
Professors Cook and Herzman tag-team for this enthusiastic course on Saint Francis of Assisi. The teamed professors approach works well with these two gentlemen to keep your attention and to share their enthusiasm for the subject. Very well done and entertaining in addition to being a great depth of study. These 12 lectures provide a very good overview of Francis' life and impact.
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Jonathan Homrighausen
08-15-13
Loved it
I have been curious about the Great Courses for a few years now, but they have always been too expensive! Now that they are in the Audible store, however, I was willing to try one. This course, co-taught by two medievalists, was amazing. I did a directed reading last quarter on the life and hagiographies of St. Francis, but I still learned so much from Cook and Herzman.
One strong point of this course was the contextualization of Francis. They show what the moral and social issues of Francis’ day were and how Francis responded to them. In a developing market economy where money was being used more, Francis stressed absolute poverty. In an age where universities were beginning in Europe and theology went out of the prayerful world of cloisters and into the rational world of the classroom, Francis was an uneducated preacher with a simple message, a man who taught by dramatic gesture and stressed deed over act. He may look like a foolishly happy simpleton, but Francis was a man who saw the problems of his age and made himself the antidote.
Cook and Herzman’s discussion of the “Canticle of Creatures” was amazing. They show how he draws on the Psalms, on Genesis’ creation stories, and even on classical natural philosophy. They argue that this poem is not just an example of Christian nature mysticism, but the first piece of Italian literature.
Last, I thought they did a great job showing how Francis’ message was disseminated in the Church and in his orders. Their re-enactment of the dialogue between Francis and Innocent II approving the order really showed how radical his path was. They also guide the reader through the complicated thicket of post-Francis controversy between the spirituals and the progressives, between those who wanted the letter of Francis’ example and those who desired its spirit. Both sides exist to this day. They also spend a lecture on St. Clare, emphasizing that she was not just a passive vehicle for Francis’ teaching but a great mystic and teacher in her own right.
That said, I wish Cook and Herzman had discussed the hagiographic tradition. Though they discussed Thomas of Celano and Bonaventure, they didn’t talk about less official writings like the Legend of Perugia, or later ones like the Little Flowers. Though they talked about the Canticle, the two Rules, and the Testament, they didn’t talk about the various exhortations and letters he wrote. Giving a roadmap to the different types of literature and hagiography in the Franciscan canon would have been a good way to get people into Regis Armstrong’s scholarly edition of the early documents by and about Francis.
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Christy Continued
05-23-16
Best Ever!
This study of Saint Francis is taught beautifully by Herzeman and Cook (my 2 favorite professors on ANYTHING, anyways) about a man who really knew about compassion towards the poor and less fortunate. For Christians and non believers alike, he is so loved by so many, and even to this day his philosophies are at work in so many ways to help the poor, and to love the planet. This is the best Coarse yet!
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I couldn't get through this book at all. The authors don't seem to have a grasp of Christianity and they're intended audience is assumed to have no knowledge of the Bible. How you can expect to understand St. Francis of Assisi with that kind of handicap is beyond me. It was like listening to chemists describe a blueberry muffin using an electron microscope. Everything they said was factually correct, but completely useless. They understood the data, but they didn't understand the story or its meaning.
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BookLover2011
11-11-18
Left me wanting more
I’m not Catholic but I do have a growing interest in Saint Francis, and hoped to “get to know” and appreciate him more through learning about his life in this course. The professors seemed so detached and diffident about him as an actual person; I found the lectures to be quite dry and uninspiring. Probably fine if you’re only looking to learn academic info about the historical context of his life.
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Gregory Wallin
08-22-18
I wanted more
The presenters did a good job of illuminating what we know of the history of St. Francis and the order named after him. I felt it was short on the Franciscan theology and analysis of that theology. I will have to look elsewhere for that content.
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Barry Cahill OBrien
10-07-17
Sadly misses the impact of faith
Good history. Totally misses the spiritual impact of Francis and his unshakable faith in christ which guided Francis to do so much of his work
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Renata H.
05-15-19
could not listen at all
2 narrators shouting over each other in most unpleasant voices talking about the things they are planning to talk. 15 min and I turned it off.
Sounded like incoherrent CNN panel.
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Stef
07-02-18
Two is better than one
Having two professors is a neat idea, it changes the feel from a lecture to a conversation. The casual way professor Herzman and professor Cook interact with each other really helps the teaching.
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Rev. David B. Smith
02-03-17
First class!
As someone who knew nothing about St Francis, I found these lectures highly educational and enjoyable. First class!
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K. C. Scarpinatto
09-06-22
An insightful and eye-opening look at the life of St. Francis
This course is outstanding. The lecturers not only speak in-depth about Francis’ life and his spiritual journey, they also show his impact on Western culture. Francis’ message is just as relevant today as it was 800 years ago, and the lecturers do an excellent job of showing this.
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Jonathan Homrighausen
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Loved it
I have been curious about the Great Courses for a few years now, but they have always been too expensive! Now that they are in the Audible store, however, I was willing to try one. This course, co-taught by two medievalists, was amazing. I did a directed reading last quarter on the life and hagiographies of St. Francis, but I still learned so much from Cook and Herzman.
One strong point of this course was the contextualization of Francis. They show what the moral and social issues of Francis’ day were and how Francis responded to them. In a developing market economy where money was being used more, Francis stressed absolute poverty. In an age where universities were beginning in Europe and theology went out of the prayerful world of cloisters and into the rational world of the classroom, Francis was an uneducated preacher with a simple message, a man who taught by dramatic gesture and stressed deed over act. He may look like a foolishly happy simpleton, but Francis was a man who saw the problems of his age and made himself the antidote.
Cook and Herzman’s discussion of the “Canticle of Creatures” was amazing. They show how he draws on the Psalms, on Genesis’ creation stories, and even on classical natural philosophy. They argue that this poem is not just an example of Christian nature mysticism, but the first piece of Italian literature.
Last, I thought they did a great job showing how Francis’ message was disseminated in the Church and in his orders. Their re-enactment of the dialogue between Francis and Innocent II approving the order really showed how radical his path was. They also guide the reader through the complicated thicket of post-Francis controversy between the spirituals and the progressives, between those who wanted the letter of Francis’ example and those who desired its spirit. Both sides exist to this day. They also spend a lecture on St. Clare, emphasizing that she was not just a passive vehicle for Francis’ teaching but a great mystic and teacher in her own right.
That said, I wish Cook and Herzman had discussed the hagiographic tradition. Though they discussed Thomas of Celano and Bonaventure, they didn’t talk about less official writings like the Legend of Perugia, or later ones like the Little Flowers. Though they talked about the Canticle, the two Rules, and the Testament, they didn’t talk about the various exhortations and letters he wrote. Giving a roadmap to the different types of literature and hagiography in the Franciscan canon would have been a good way to get people into Regis Armstrong’s scholarly edition of the early documents by and about Francis.
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Christy Continued
05-23-16
Best Ever!
This study of Saint Francis is taught beautifully by Herzeman and Cook (my 2 favorite professors on ANYTHING, anyways) about a man who really knew about compassion towards the poor and less fortunate. For Christians and non believers alike, he is so loved by so many, and even to this day his philosophies are at work in so many ways to help the poor, and to love the planet. This is the best Coarse yet!
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I couldn't get through this book at all. The authors don't seem to have a grasp of Christianity and they're intended audience is assumed to have no knowledge of the Bible. How you can expect to understand St. Francis of Assisi with that kind of handicap is beyond me. It was like listening to chemists describe a blueberry muffin using an electron microscope. Everything they said was factually correct, but completely useless. They understood the data, but they didn't understand the story or its meaning.
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Left me wanting more
I’m not Catholic but I do have a growing interest in Saint Francis, and hoped to “get to know” and appreciate him more through learning about his life in this course. The professors seemed so detached and diffident about him as an actual person; I found the lectures to be quite dry and uninspiring. Probably fine if you’re only looking to learn academic info about the historical context of his life.
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Gregory Wallin
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I wanted more
The presenters did a good job of illuminating what we know of the history of St. Francis and the order named after him. I felt it was short on the Franciscan theology and analysis of that theology. I will have to look elsewhere for that content.
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Sadly misses the impact of faith
Good history. Totally misses the spiritual impact of Francis and his unshakable faith in christ which guided Francis to do so much of his work
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Renata H.
05-15-19
could not listen at all
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Two is better than one
Having two professors is a neat idea, it changes the feel from a lecture to a conversation. The casual way professor Herzman and professor Cook interact with each other really helps the teaching.
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02-03-17
First class!
As someone who knew nothing about St Francis, I found these lectures highly educational and enjoyable. First class!
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An insightful and eye-opening look at the life of St. Francis
This course is outstanding. The lecturers not only speak in-depth about Francis’ life and his spiritual journey, they also show his impact on Western culture. Francis’ message is just as relevant today as it was 800 years ago, and the lecturers do an excellent job of showing this.
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