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Luhmann Explained: From Souls to Systems

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What are systems? What is society? What happens to human beings in a hypermodern world? Niklas Luhmann addressed these questions in depth. This book introduces his social systems theory which explains specific functions like economy and mass media from a cybernetic perspective, integrating various schools of thought including sociology, philosophy, and biology. Luhmann Explained explores the great thinker’s radical analysis of “world society.” The book gives special attention to the present-day relevance of Luhmann's theory with respect to globalization, electronic mass media, ethics, and new forms of protest. (less)

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So many sociologists, so little time… The problem is that my memory for names is so bad that I might have heard about this guy a dozen times before, but as far as I know I first really heard about him about a week ago. He became a bit urgent to read as he has a pretty influential theory of media – and my thesis has to sorta, kinda do a kinda sorta nodding acknowledgement towards media theory.

The problem is that he is also reputed to be insanely difficult to read – so, I thought I would just start with a how-to Luhmann, rather challenge him to an arm wrestle with no other background information than his name. This was good, but Luhmann’s ideas are so out of the ordinary – and so opposed to our standard prejudices – that I’ve a feeling no matter how they are expressed they are unlikely to really be heard by many people.

Our main prejudice is that we are individuals and this is something at the very core of Luhmann’s ideas and it is something he denies. This sounds like it might be just the sort of daft things you might expect from a sociologist and basically wrong as it is going against Descartes and his idea that the one thing we cannot doubt is our own consciousness (I think, therefore I am), but Luhmann’s point is a bit more subtle than this.

Individual derives from Medieval Latin meaning indivisible. Now, we may well like to imagine that we are indivisible, but Luhmann’s point is that we live in a society where we adopt roles that rely on the functions we are called upon to perform in that society. We have economic roles, family roles, political roles, roles related to our work and entertainment, educational roles – and so the list goes on. The people that we are while performing any or each of these roles could hardly be said to be ‘indivisible’. In fact, for some of them they are more than likely to be actually contradictory. And it isn’t as if we necessarily perform these roles like an actor, peeling off one mask just in time to pop on another. The author gives a wonderful example of a man paying the cashier at a restaurant, but as the transaction is about to happen both men receive mobile phone calls which both of them then answer. Their economic transaction continues while they are simultaneously a lover to the person on the end of one phone and perhaps a parent on the end of the other. Does it really make sense to talk about these two people as being indivisible? Are they two people or four? To Luhmann they are defined by the roles they are playing in all their complexity, rather than assuming some ‘essential element’ that exists somewhere beneath it all.

There was a time when people could be defined more or less once and for all time – in the pre-modern age people were allocated a position in society prior to their birth and there was no escaping that role except by death. A peasant was a peasant and a lord, a lord. That world no longer exists. In a functionally differentiated world, you get to be what you do – but no one really gets to do only one thing, everyone has multiple functions to perform and so have multiple identities.

Luhmann’s key vision of society comes from biology and the structure of the cell. The essential part of a cell is the cell wall. It is this that divides what is cell from what is not cell and therefore allows the cell to be something. Cells can then start to differentiate and start to have different functions from other cells that can then coordinate to make a more complex organism – but they can’t do that if they have not created a border around themselves defining what is in and what is out. For Luhmann society is made up of functional units that are much the same. So that there is a legal function within society and this is different from the economic function or the political ones. And in some ways similar to Saussure’s arbitrary nature of the sign, many of these functions are also somewhat arbitrary too. We know this because there are many ways societies can organise their legal and political structures, but once an organising principle has been applied, once a structure has been built upon those foundations, they are no longer arbitrary but, to all intents and purposes, necessary.

What is particularly interesting here is that each of these functional systems, each of these necessary components of a fully working social order, are based on communication. The example given is economics – where an economic exchange means entering into a communicative relationship with someone else and playing by the rules of the economic functional system. If I do not recognise the use of money – a key component in the communication system of economics – I am hardly likely to exchange my goods for your grotty little bits of paper. Each of the functional systems within society are likewise based on communicative exchanges, but Luhmann stresses that the communication systems are primary and the actors secondary – that is, it isn’t humans that communicate within these roles, rather the other way around, we humans are made via the roles we play within these communicative functions. (I did warn you that you weren’t going to like this)

I guess you can see why Luhmann might be interesting in the mass media. The mass media is something we immediately associate with communication – so we are not likely to react negatively when someone tells us that its central purpose is communicative in the way we might for say dentistry. But it is important to remember that Luhmann is only seeing the media as a hyper-example of the fundamental role of all functional roles in society.

Before I go on, I want to mention Luhmann’s view of political activisms. He discusses the Green movement – a movement dedicated to conservation of the environment. However, Luhmann did not believe that to be the case. The Green movement became a political movement and as such its real point was to create politicians, which it did with abandon. Our functionally differentiated society reproduces itself, his term for this is that it is an autopoietic system. Autopoiesis is made up of the Greek words meaning ‘self-production’. For Luhmann it is almost impossible to truly act outside of the functional units a society creates. There is no ‘outside’ and all positions reproduce the relationships that already exist – this is the tragedy of the modern, the tragedy of living in a functionally differentiated society. This is also why Luhmann doesn’t believe we are living in a post-modern world – because what was true about society two hundred years ago is still true of it today.

What is particularly interesting is that issues such as Native American rights, Civil Rights, Gay Rights, Women’s Rights and their relationship to social change. Let’s pretend for a second that all of these were granted – Luhmann’s point isn’t that this would be a bad thing, but rather that all it would achieve would be an extension of the already existing order. This isn’t a bad thing, in fact, more strength to your elbow – it just also isn’t a ‘revolutionary overthrow of the existing order’. It is the existing order. None of the existing functional units would be overthrown if gay marriage rights were granted.

Now, onto the media. What is particularly important about the media is that it functions in somewhat similar ways to how the board game ‘trivial pursuit’ functions. To play the game you need to know a series of background facts about how your society exists. These facts are the common knowledge of anyone actively engaged in that society. The media provides a similar function because it delineates what is worth knowing from what is not. As the New York Times reminds us, the media provides – All the news that’s fit to print. Luhmann’s media is quite different to Chomsky’s media model. Chomsky proposes that since the media are increasingly held in the hands of fewer and fewer media interests – huge corporations – it is inevitable that they will present a picture of the world that is in the interests of those corporations. Chomsky’s model is one of manipulation. This doesn’t need to be explicit manipulation – there is no need for a Rupert Murdoch to tell a Bill O’Reilly what to say or think. Bill is employed because he can be assured to say and think the right things. Chomsky’s model is based on selective promotion of people certain to think the ‘right way’ and of the self-editing of everyone else so as to keep their jobs. Luhmann doesn’t agree or disagree with this, per se, he just doesn’t believe it is necessary in the way Chomsky suggests. To Luhmann this idea is based on a false premise, that there is an underlying truth that is both simple and can be uncovered if the manipulation is removed.

This book refers to the Communist Manifesto here – which had me going to check and it seems he is probably right. Interestingly, Part III of the Manifesto is called Socialist and Communist Literature. The author says, “One can find in the Communist Manifesto the belief that the newspapers would finally emancipate the masses and liberate the workers.” It does seem that Marx and Engels did have a belief that when communist newspapers became available to the masses the masses would realise the true nature of their position in society and overthrow their oppressors. In a sense this is the role of any manifesto that must at some level believe in the power of words to affect change.

In this sense then, Luhmann sees both Marx and Chomsky as naïve. The media has both more and less power than they assert in their beliefs. The media doesn’t merely justify power, it enters into a dialogue with the various functional units of power and thereby creates the narratives that help to explain these structures, as much to themselves as to the world. One of the things the media does – perhaps its most important role – is to create the illusion of personal agency. We believe things like President Bush launched the Gulf War, but if push came to shove we would probably have to concede that it took one or two more people than just this one guy to do such a thing. In fact, so many more people that any rational interpretation of what happened would probably only see President Bush as a kind of media figure head and representative of the various socially functional units whose interactions made the Gulf War happen. The media also turns us into individuals, constantly reaffirming our essential individuality. Hell, how could you think for a minute I’m not an individual, I drink Coke rather than Pepsi and I prefer Apple to IBM – I make choices, if that doesn’t make me an individual, what would? His point, of course, is that the choices are so constrained that the differences they make are virtually meaningless.

The media are interested in information. But this means something a little different from what we take information to generally mean. Here it means the eternally new. As the book points out, as soon as we learn that the president has had sex with someone we immediately want to know who? Then we want to know how often? Then we want to know what kind of sex? Did she enjoy it? Is she prepared to tell us what he was like? But this obsession with the new implies the media’s role as the trivial pursuit game of our lives. There is no time for detailed background for any stories, there is only room for what is new, what is information, and assumed common knowledge. What is interesting about this is that after decades of watching news programs documenting the conflicts in the Middle East few of us could say anything meaningful about the differences between Shiites and Sunnies. There is no background track – the background is either assumed as the price you are supposed to have already paid to be a part of our society, or it is irrelevant. If you don’t know, hide the fact as well as you can, if you do know, assume everyone else does too.

As I’ve become less and less interested in popular culture there are a whole class of people I sort of see about the place, but can’t quite work out who they are or what they do. My favourite being Kim Kardashian. I’ve no idea what she is famous for, literally haven’t a clue, surely it can’t be ‘having breasts and a surname that sounds like a Soviet Asian Republic’ – but when I’ve said that to people they have told me that is actually pretty accurate description. I figure they are taking the piss.

The point being you are not really allowed to not know this stuff. Knowing these ‘individuals’ and keeping up to date with the improbable twists and turns of their lives confirms ourselves too as individuals in waiting.

What I like about all this is that it doesn’t require a malevolent superhuman force manipulating everyone from afar – although, that said, I’m going to go on hating Murdoch all the same. If I'm not an individual I can't see why I have to be consistent. In fact, the problem is much more frightening than mere manipulation – it is that the matrix exists without the need for machines programming our dreams. It exists because of the interactions we are compelled to enter into. And worse yet, we are created out of those interactions – not the other way around. They existed before us, and will continue after us – seeing them as ‘our creation’, as extensions of our wills, is to completely mess up the order of horse and cart.
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Yahya
Jan 13, 2020rated it it was amazing
I had stumbled upon this book after reading some Luhmann directly. I tried reading 'Theory of society' and 'Introduction to systems theory' of Niklas Luhmann. Those books were really difficult to comprehend. Moeller does an awesome job of explaining Luhmann's theory. The five stars given to the book go to his style of writing which makes really complex ideas easily comprehensible. Coming to Luhmann's theory of society itself, it has a huge shortcoming. By placing humans and material culture outside the society/social system, Luhmann's theory falls short of explaining various phenomenons in society satisfactorily. What Luhmann provides isn't actually a comprehensive theory of society, its a theory of communication. (less)
Michael
May 06, 2016rated it really liked it
Yes, very nice. I thought I had a comprehensive understanding of Luhmann already but Moeller's book does a splendid job of giving philosophical and sociological contexts for Luhmann's work which much enhanced my appreciation for that work's ambition and its accomplishment. Very readable; recommended. (less)

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What are systems? What is society? What happens to human beings in a hypermodern world? This book is an introduction to Niklas Luhmann's social system theory which explains specific functions like economy and mass media from a cybernetic perspective. Integrating various schools of thought including sociology, philosophy and biology Luhmann Explained results in an overall analysis of "world society". Special attention is given to the present-day relevance of Luhmann's theory with respect to globalization, electronic mass media, ethics, and new forms of protest.




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4.0 out of 5 stars Good clear exposition of Luhman's main ideasReviewed in Australia on 14 April 2014
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Seemed to me a good outline of the main ideas. Clearly presented and with good examples. I wouldn't pretend that I fully understand Luhmann from this, but enough at least to have some idea.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Saúl Trejo RodríguezReviewed in Mexico on 11 February 2017
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Excelente libro que muestra de forma muy clara el giro comunicacional que Luhmann da en el análisis sistémico de la sociedad y cómo de ese giro se obtiene una ganancia teórica de gran alcance y refinamiento para abordar los temas sociales de alta complejidad.
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3.0 out of 5 stars Un'introduzione alla teoria sociologica di N. LuhmannReviewed in Italy on 22 July 2013
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Una buona e chiara introduzione alla teoria di uno dei più grandi sociologi e intellettuali del XX secolo (e forse anche di questo, almeno per adesso e per i prossimi anni).
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3.0 out of 5 stars 英米圏での情報収集にReviewed in Japan on 30 March 2008
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まことに偉大な(と私は思う)ドイツの社会学者ニクラス・ルーマンの難解な理論を
わかりやすく再構成し解説した哲学者による紹介。

すんげー簡潔にまとまってます。簡潔すぎ、って感じはありますが。
大きな構成は、実際のルーマンの論述内容のあれこれに踏み込んでいくに先立って、
いわゆる「旧ヨーロッパ的」な社会認識を超克することの重大性を訴えるところが
ポイント。つまり、他の多くの社会論者を尻目に、「なぜルーマンか」を強調する
ところがポイント。

しかしながら、この構成ではすでにわが国には長岡克行氏の大部で入念な論考
(『ルーマン/社会の理論の革命』)があるので、あえてこの本を読む特筆すべき
必要はないのかも。

日常の具体的な場面での描写に時折「ハッと」させられること、後半で、カント・ヘーゲル・
マルクス・フッサールらとの関連性を要領よくまとめているところ、巻末資料として英語圏
での文献リストがついていること、こんなところが有用でした。
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D. Spivak
5.0 out of 5 stars Profound ideas, beautifully explicated.Reviewed in the United States on 19 February 2017
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This is the best book I've read in years. First of all it's beautifully written by Moeller; but it's also my first introduction to Luhmann, and I'm blown away.

Reading the book, so much begins to makes sense. Every page—maybe every few paragraphs—I get the feeling, "oh... I see. Of course!" What does this feeling signify?
• Every few paragraphs, Moeller explains a new concept or perspective, or expands on a previous one. These concepts are ones I've never heard anything like before.
• Without having to reread, I understand this new concept. "Oh..."
• It's a profoundly different way to understand society, but once I hear it, I don't have to swallow it or take it on faith. "I see."
• But I further get the feeling that it's in fact obvious in retrospect. "Of course!" I lose the ability to see how any previously-imagined theory was even viable.

Profound stuff. Thank you Luhmann, and thank you Moeller!!

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Marten K
5.0 out of 5 stars Does what it sets out to doReviewed in the United States on 2 January 2011
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Hans-Georg Moeller's book is a relatively easy entry into Luhmann's work. Not having read anything on Luhmann before I now feel that I have a reasonable grasp of Luhmann's ideas. Others with a more thorough knowledge of Luhmann would be better placed to comment on the integrity of Moeller's interpretation.

While the book is short, it is not an 'easy' book as such; this is not a pop culture book. The book covers what seems to be Luhmann's essential elements in a distilled form.

Towards the end there are chapters that locate Luhmann relative to Kant, Hegel, Marx and Habermas as well as postermodernims and deconstruction. While a good idea in some respects, I found this coverage a little scant and not completly satisfying, particularly Kant and Hegel who I have not read. The others I had some prior exposure to so was able to grasp but I would have preferred more.

The translated extracts included as appendices seem to be well selected, and provide welcome substance to Moeller's substantive text. Again, somebody who has read Luhmann more widely would be better placed to comment on whether this selection is reflective of Luhmann's work.

The book provides a solid basis for further reading, and on this I would have liked a suggested list of further readings, although the bibliography at the end of the book is very extensive.

Five stars because the book fulfilled the expecations it evoked with a reasonable investment of my time and at a reasonable price.
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동서고금에 걸쳐서 수많은 사람들이 도덕경을 해석하여 왔지만 합의된 정설은 고사하고 단 두 사람의 해석도 일치하지 않는 실정입니다. 현재 시중에서 판매되는 도덕경 해설서만 해도 줄잡아 200여 종은 될 것입니다. 각자 나름대로는 자신의 주장이 옳고 정당한 근거도 있다고 생각할 것입니다. 도덕경이 훌륭한 책이라는 점에서는 수많은 사람들이 동의하는데 그 내용에 대한 해석에는 아무도 일치하지 않는다, 참으로 이상한 일이 아닐 수 없습니다. 대만의 유명한 노자 연구학자인 陳鼓應은 이 상황을 다음과 같이 잘 요약하였습니다.

 

 

“우리는 도를 실존적 관점(existential viewpoint)에서 처리할 수는 없고, 가설적인 관점(hypothetical viewpoint)으로 토론할 수 있을 뿐이다.”(최재목 · 박재연 역, 『진고응이 풀이한 노자』, 영남대학교 출판부, 2004, p71)

 

 

여기에서 ‘실존적(實存的)’은 개개인의 삶의 관점을 가리키는 정도로 이해하면 될 것입니다. 도덕경은 아마도 이 세상을 사는 ‘나’에게 어떤 종류의 길을 제시하고 있지 않을까 추측된다는 것입니다. 陳 선생도 처음에는 도덕경을 실존적 관점에서 해석하려고 시도하였지만 실패하였다는 것을 알 수 있습니다. 그래서 할 수 없이 그 나름대로의 가설적 관점을 지니고 다른 학자들과 서로 토론하면서 올바른 이해에 근접해가려고 노력할 수밖에 없다고 고백한 것입니다. ‘가설적(假說的)’이란 자신의 견해를 잠정적인 것으로 간주하고 더 합당한 견해가 나오면 그것을 수정할 태세가 되어 있다는 것을 의미합니다. 이렇게 자신의 한계를 솔직하게 인정하는 학자는 의외로 보기 드뭅니다. 

 

그런데 저는 도덕경이 철두철미하게 실존적 관점에서 기록되었다는 사실을 발견하였습니다. 저 자신도 이것을 믿을 수가 없어서 너덧 해에 걸쳐 도덕경을 거듭 뒤집어서 흔들어보기도 하고 파헤쳐 보기도 하였지만 시간이 갈수록 그 사실은 점점 더 분명해질 뿐이었습니다. 그래서 이 내용을 원고로 작성하여 도덕경을 전공하는 몇몇 학자들에게 보내 비평을 요청하였습니다. 저는 대학생 시절에 철학을 전공한 관계로 몇 명의 교수들과 개인적인 친분도 있고 그런 사람들의 소개도 받을 수 있는 입장입니다. 그런데 어이없게도 모든 사람이 아예 무반응이거나 마지못해 몇 마디 얼버무리는 정도로 대응을 회피하는 것이었습니다. 

 

노자를 연구하는 학자들이 각자 자신의 ‘가설’에 만족하고 그것을 개선하려는 노력을 하지 않는다는 사실을 나중에야 겨우 알았습니다. 진리보다 권위를 중시하는 학자는 자신이 제시한 가설이 그대로 정설로 굳어지기를 바랄 것입니다. 배우는 학생들은 감히 스승의 견해를 반박하지 못합니다. 그들은 그럴만한 학식이 없으니까요. 한편 학자들은 서로의 가설을 비평하면서 하나의 정설을 모색하는 대신에 도덕경은 이렇게도 저렇게도 해석할 수 있으므로 한 가지 해석만 옳다고 하는 것은 편견이라고 입을 모아 주장합니다. 학자라는 사람들이 자리보전에 급급하느라 미리부터 진리에 겁을 먹고 마음의 문을 닫고 있는 것입니다. 

 

노자가 絶學無憂라고 한 뜻을 깊이 새기지 않을 수 없습니다. 사실 모든 학문은 가설적 관점에서 벗어날 수 없습니다. 성서가 적절하게 비유하였듯이, 학문은 경험을 재료로 구워낸 정의(定義 definition) 또는 개념(槪念 concept)이라는 벽돌(adobe)을 이성(理性)이라는 역청(tar)으로 쌓아올리는 바벨탑입니다. 즉, 학문은 사물에 관한 개념들을 논리의 법칙에 따라 체계적으로 구성하는 일입니다. 학문은 有의 산물이므로 그것으로는 有의 세계를 결코 넘어설 수 없습니다. 사람이 有를 초월할 가능성이 있다면 그 사건이 실제로 일어나는 것은 아마도 그가 有가 아닌 곳, 즉 無로부터 오는 지혜를 지닐 때일 것입니다. 無로부터 오는 지혜가 아니면 有를 결코 초월하지 못합니다. 도덕경의 주제는 바로 無이고, 無를 알 수 있는 것은 오직 실존적 자아뿐입니다. 제가 말하는 ‘실존적 자아’는 일체의 有를 벗어나 無 앞에 나선 자아를 가리킵니다. 그가 어떤 일을 겪는지는 그 자신 밖에 어느 누구도 모릅니다. 실존적 자아는 가설 또는 학문의 대상을 넘어서는 神的인 존재이며, 노자가 聖人이라고 지칭하는 바로 그입니다.

 

덕경을 학문의 대상으로 여기는 사람은 가설적인 관점을 결코 벗어날 수 없고, 따라서 도덕경을 조금도 알 수 없습니다. 도를 실천하는 실존적 자아만이 실존적 관점으로 올라가 거기에서 비로소 도덕경을 완전하게 이해할 수 있습니다. 도덕경을 읽는 목적은 도에 대한 지식을 얻는 것이 아니라 도덕경이 지시하는 바에 따라 도를 실천하여 자유로운 실존적 자아를 회복하는 일입니다. 도는 無이므로 도에 대한 지식이란 말 자체가 성립하지 않습니다.

 

제가 발견한 것을 어떻게 하면 세상에 알릴 수 있을까 궁리하던 끝에『노자 도덕경』이라는 책을 엮어서 출간한 것이 작년 10월입니다. 출판은 ‘푸른나무’에서 맡아주었습니다. 자비(自費) 출판인 관계로 비용을 줄이기 위해 책의 분량을 극소화하다 보니 마치 주석을 붙인 논문처럼 되고 말았습니다. 체계적인 문장으로 쓰려고 하면 아마 500 페이지는 가벼이 넘을 것이므로 비용이 너무 커집니다. 그런데 과학문명의 덕택으로 블로그라는 좋은 수단이 있어서 다행입니다. 블로그라면 분량과 비용에 전혀 신경 쓰지 않고 하고 싶은 말을 다 할 수 있습니다. 누구나 원하는 사람은 마음대로 읽고 의견을 줄 수도 있고 서로 생각을 교환할 수도 있습니다. 도덕경에 관한 한 이것으로써 대충 제가 할 일은 다 했다고 생각합니다.

 

굳이 ‘해부’라는 타이틀을 얹어놓은 이유는 도덕경의 내용 하나하나가 마치 살아있는 생체조직처럼 서로 연결되어 확실한 작용과 기능을 수행하고 있다는 사실을 강조하기 위한 것입니다. 도덕경은 전체적으로 짜임새 있게 구성되어 있어서 어느 한 부분, 한 글자도 두리뭉실하게 넘어갈 것이 없습니다. 다른 방향으로 해석할 여지도 없습니다. ‘도덕경 해부’를 처음부터 차근히 살펴보고 만져보시면 그것을 직접 확인하실 수 있을 것입니다. 물론 관심이 더 큰 어떤 부분이 있다면 그 부분을 먼저 읽으셔도 무방합니다. 다만 전후 맥락을 모르면 얼핏 납득이 안 되는 부분이 있을지도 모릅니다. 1장부터 81장까지 순서대로 해부해 놓았기 때문에 누구든지 쉽게 원하는 부분에 접근하실 수 있습니다. 

 

혹시 내용을 수정하거나 변경할 수도 있습니다. 의견이나 질문이 있으시면 서슴지 마시고 댓글로 올려주시거나 메일을 주십시오. 기꺼이 도움을 드리겠습니다. 모쪼록 도에 취미를 붙여서 인생의 참된 기쁨을 누리시기를 바랍니다.

 

 

 

 

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Stephen Mitchell, the translator of the edition acquired by Harper & Row : 네이버 블로그

Stephen Mitchell, the translator of the edition acquired by Harper & Row : 네이버 블로그

Stephen Mitchell, the translator of the edition acquired by Harper & Row

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2015. 1. 2.

Translation of Ancient Tao Text Brings $130,000


By EDWIN McDOWELL
Published: February 16, 1988


After a spirited auction involving eight publishers, Harper & Row has agreed to pay $130,000 for a new translation of a Chinese book of philosophy and religion written more than 2,000 years ago. The amount is one of the highest ever paid to a translator, and it is certainly the most for a work in the public domain that has already been translated into English dozens of times.

The book is ''Tao-te-ching,'' which is usually translated as ''The Way and Its Power.'' Stephen Mitchell, the translator of the edition acquired by Harper & Row, is a biblical scholar whose translations of Rainer Maria Rilke were published by Random House and Simon & Schuster and whose translation of the Book of Job was published last fall by North Point Press.

''Tao-te-ching'' is the book from which the philosophical system of Taoism chiefly derives, and its authorship is traditionally ascribed to Lao-tze (sometimes written Lao-tzu), the Chinese philosopher who lived in 600 B.C., although there is some question that he wrote it at all. The political doctrine reflected by the Taoists, according to the New Columbia Encyclopedia, is that the duty of a ruler is to protect one's subjects from experiencing material wants or strong passions and to impose a minimum of government. In his State of the Union message last month, President Reagan quoted Lao-tze as saying, ''Govern a great nation as you would cook a small fish; do not overdo it.'' 

25,000 to Be Printed William M. Shinker, publisher of Harper & Row, said the company paid the unprecedented amount of money ''because of Stephen Mitchell's consummate skill as a translator and the feeling he has for the material.'' But the house looks upon the book as a long-term investment, he said, and accordingly will publish 25,000 hard-cover copies next fall, priced at $14.95, then publish it in trade paperback a year later.

''Our plan has always been to make our money in paperback,'' Mr. Shinker said, ''but it's possible it will have a much longer life than one year in hard cover.'' Like all spiritual books, he said, this should have broad appeal to college students, to people interested in Eastern religions and in so-called new age books.

Mr. Mitchell - who lives in Berkeley, Calif., and works out of what he described as ''a dark and cold garage'' - said that ''Tao-te-ching'' was the first birthday present he ever gave his Chinese-American wife.

''I have been meditating on the book for many years, and in a sense living it for many years,'' Mr. Mitchell said in a recent telephone conversation. ''That's what allowed me to translate it in about two months.'' A student of Zen Buddhism for 14 years, Mr. Mitchell is the author of ''Dropping Ashes on the Buddha'' (Grove Press, 1976), an account of the Zen master with whom he has studied. 

Unfamiliar With Chinese

Mr. Mitchell does not read or speak Chinese. He said he worked with a text that contained every Chinese character, as well as their English equivalents.

Mr. Mitchell added that it is not unusual for a translator of poetry not to read the language in which the poem was written. For example, he said, Alexander Pope worked from Latin and French versions in translating Homer's epic poems, the ''Iliad'' and the ''Odyssey,'' while Thomas Merton worked from an English and French version for his translation of ''The Way of Chuang-Tzu.''

''Samuel Johnson said in his 'Lives of the Poets' that the only way to judge the value of an English translation,'' Mr. Mitchell noted, ''is to judge it first of all as an English poem.''

What also enhanced his own translation, Mr. Mitchell added, is that none of the other translators of ''Tao-te-ching'' had personal experience of the inner tradition of Lao-tze. ''The true descendants were the Zen masters,'' he added, ''and I underwent many years of intensive training with a Zen master in the U.S. I felt this experience allowed me a kind of insight into the mind of Lao-tze, rather than just the words of Lao-tze.'' 

How Auction Started

The auction was conducted about six weeks ago by Michael Katz, a Berkeley literary agent and book packager, but was just made public. He and Mr. Mitchell had been introduced by a mutual friend in the Zen community, and when Mr. Mitchell said he was translating ''Tao-te-ching,'' they decided to see how well the best-known translations had sold.

Eventually they decided that on the strength of Mr. Mitchell's unique background as well as the praise his previous translations received from Stephen Spender, Denis Donoghue and William Arrowsmith, they could position his translation as definitive, in much the way Princeton University Press has positioned as definitive its edition of ''I Ching,'' translated from the Chinese to German by Richard Wilhelm, and from German to English by Cary Baynes. That book, published in 1967, has sold some 600,000 copies in hard cover.

Eight houses made initial bids, Mr. Katz said, including at least one house that already has a ''Tao-te-ching'' translation, and four houses remained in the auction after the bidding hit $100,000. Although the entire translation was completed in time for the auction, publishers were sent only 15 of the 81 brief chapters, as well as copies of the reviews praising Mr. Mitchell's previous translations.

One of the first things Mr. Mitchell plans to do with the money from his advance, he said, is move to a workplace with heat. He also has ideas for other books, but not translations. ''I only translate things I'm almost magnetically drawn to,'' he said, ''and after Rilke, the Book of Job and this, I can't imagine any others.''


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Contents                                        Audiobook chap

Preface 00
Introduction: A Very Short History of Daoism 00
Laozi and the Daodejing 00
Zhuangzi 00
Huang-Lao-Daoism 00
Daoist Mysticism 00
Daoist Religion 00
Daoism Today 00
The Dao 00

Part I: Images and Allegories 00

1. Images in the Laozi 00
The Wheel-an Image of the Dao 00
Water and the Female 00
The Root 00

2. Allegories in the Zhuangzi 00
The Dream of the Butterfly-Or: Everything Is Real 00
The Fishnet Allegory-Or: How to Forget Thinking 00
The Happy Fish-Or: Joy without Joy 00


Part II: Issues 00
1. The State 00
2. The Body (Of Infants and Corpses) 00
3. Life and Death 00
4. Time 00
5. Nature 00
6. Artisanship and Art 00
7. Ethics 00
8. Language and Thought 00


Part III: Structures 00
1. Presence and Nonpresence-Or: The Pipe of Heaven 12
2. Daoist Signs-Or: The Difference between Dao and God 00

Part IV. Perspectives 00
1. Daoism and Chan (or: Zen) Buddhism 00
2. Daoism and Contemporary Philosophy 00
Notes 00
Index 00


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Daoism Explained: From the Dream of the Butterfly to the Fishnet Allegory

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Hans-Georg Moeller has achieved the perfect blend with Daoism Explained. 
is both a fascinating introduction on Daoist thought as well as an original and insightful contribution to Eastern philosophy. 

This book will take the place of The Tao of Pooh by Hoff. Like that book, Daoism Explained offers a comprehensive presentation of Daoist philosophy that is interesting and easy to follow. 
The study sheds new light on many Daoist allegories by showing how modern translations often concealed the original wit and humor of the Chinese original, or imposed alien philosophical frameworks on them. 
It attempts to take away the metaphysical and Christian disguises with which Daoist philosophy has been obscured by Western interpretations in the past 100 years. (less)

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Published August 9th 2004 
by Open Court
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...clear, nontechnical languange, and this book should be helpful to anyone interested in Daoism and in Chinese thought. -- CHOICE, April 2005

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dods
5.0 out of 5 stars One of the best books on Daoism
Reviewed in the United States on January 19, 2005
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This is truly one of the finest books on Daoism. Professor Moeller's ability to illuminate many difficult daoist concepts in a clear and concise manner is very rare. Please take the time to read excerpts from the book.

 The excerpt: 
The Wheel - An image of Dao is a brilliant examination of Chapter 11 of the Tao Te Ching. Also, the chapters "The State", and "Presence and Nonpresence" (usually translated as being and non-being) are excellent. 
"Daoism Explained" is not a rehash of ideas taken from previous books on the subject. It is a unique and intelligent examination of Daoism.

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Harmony
5.0 out of 5 stars Thanks,Prof Moeller !
Reviewed in the United States on March 24, 2016
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Prof Moeller understands Daoism .His clear concepts are fundamental to understand Chinese philosophy for Western people.
Looking forward to reading more of his book.
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Russ Reising
5.0 out of 5 stars Best book I ever read on Daoism
Reviewed in the United States on January 19, 2014
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My title says it all. Moeller gets at the philosophical core of Daoism and offers a comprehensive and, for me, truly eye-opening analysis of the tradition and some of its major statements, enigmas, and figures.
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G. Stark
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent
Reviewed in the United States on September 20, 2006
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It is a very accurate, readable book, and does great service in clarifying concepts previously and otherwise mis-interpreted.
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Sam George

1.0 out of 5 stars The Dao Can't be Translated

Reviewed in the United States on February 28, 2020

The Tao De Ching makes it clear that the Dao can't be said or named. Yet this book, as with every book I have read like it in English, spend the entire book trying to name and speak it. The big problem with English is English. Almost every word we use goes back to Western philosophy, and even worse, is mediated through Christianity. Being. 
This work is so loaded and no how you slice and dice it (such as presence and absence) it is still Being. There is no such work in Mandarin. 
The other huge mistake by the author is extensive discussion of the use of "ego." The concept of the ego was not articulated it the West until the 20th century. It is massive illiteracy to bring into a Chinese environment 2000 years ago. There was no ego.
 Whatever the Chinese notion of self was it was not an ego. They did not have Freud. 

Finally., an unforgivable error is the analogy of the Dao with the "flow" of self help. Shame on you! I don't the authors of the Tao thought of a jogger getting into the "flow." In fact, they could not conceive it.

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R. Mutt
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4.0 out of 5 stars Does just what the title says
Reviewed in the United States on September 13, 2006

This is a great book for readers of Daoist works- mainly the Daodejing (Laozi), Liezi, and Zhuangzi. It covers the fundamentals of Daoism succinctly without glossing over important concepts. 

After reading this book anyone should be able to read the aforementioned works with a greater degree of comprehension. 
As the previous reviewer stated, this is indeed one of the best books on Daoism.

 However, it also contains one of the most backwards economic theories ever put on paper. 

Fortunately, the author limits his hopelessly surreal ideas of the latter topic to only the last few pages.

 In his attempt to explain society as a self-perpetuating force that runs itself without human action, he makes statements that are so blatantly silly that it almost seems as if he added them in just to see if readers were really paying attention.

 In his own words, "the functioning of the modern economy has to be explained largely in terms of the flow of money and stocks- and no longer as a causal result of human enterprise." 
So somehow if human enterprise were to suddenly cease, the flow of money and stocks will just keep going- right? 
This notion seems too ridiculous to entertain, but the author continues by stating that "mass communication has quite obviously detached itself from actual human performances and 'autonomized' itself as a self-generating 'hypertext.'"

 It's quite interesting to know that this author feels as if mass communication on planet Earth will continue unabated if all the humans got on spaceships and left. The whole idea that economies and politics and mass communication don't need people sounds like something that would happen if robots took over the planet Terminator-style. If that's what the author is referring to, then I suppose I am wrong. But if the author thinks the "Dao" will handle monetary exchanges just fine without us around, then he needs to put the bong down for a while. In all, this book is great and would have fully earned its five stars if it weren't for this little delusional twist at the end.
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Jan 24, 2018Daz rated it really liked it
Shelves: daoism, nonfiction, art, philosophy

I can understand now why this book has made its way to art shops in Melbourne, and why it was recommended to me by a very gifted Fine Arts student from China. There is something quite beautiful about the writings of Daoism that calm the soul and offer that essence of minimalism; that ‘less is more’, 'non-action is action' philosophy that art and writing often benefit from.

In the beginning of this book Daoism Explained, Moeller does a clever job of presenting the writings of the Laozi and the Zhuangzi, by comparing western philosophical interpretations to what he believes is the original and intended Chinese meaning. There were times where I felt like Moeller’s subjective voice was a little too overpowering for what should be an objective study of philosophy. Nevertheless, some of the material is quite significant when coming to terms with the ‘intended sense’ (for lack of a better term) of Daoism. For example, In the Dream of the Butterfly, Moeller identifies a glaring problem with western philosophy’s translation and interpretation of the allegory. Within their muddled mess, there is an unexplained emphasis on the subject “I”, while always seeking to gain some kind of profound meaning or a significance in regards to transcendence when the man 'remembers' his dream of being a butterfly. Those pesky westerners! They appear to think they can understand centuries of Daoist philosophy just because they can wear a Chinese robe for one day. As Moeller asserts, Daoism in its nature and in the original interpretation seeks to do just the opposite. For example, In the Dream of the Butterfly - the man does not focus on remembering his dream but rather an act of forgetting. 'Being' and not 'I' should rather focus on forgetting, letting go and understanding that the life or the dream of the butterfly and the life or the dream of the man are both distinctly separate yet very much experiencing their own worlds. This is just one example of a discussion within the book that I found fascinating.

So far (halfway through), Moeller’s writing is clear and concise. His material is well researched and this book is definitely not a waste of time if you are interested in the subject. Whether or not he ‘Explains’ every part of Daoism in accordance with its original intention is well up for debate. Herein lies why the book suffers a little bit from a pushy, forceful tone of voice. The irony for me, is that I think his work could have done with a little more objective flow, a little more... Dao. Still, a fantastic read with some remarkable imagery, metaphors and quotes that give beauty and humility to the spirit.

Extended note -

After finishing this work, Moeller moves away from his subjective voice. Some very interesting discourse on the 'The Way of the Dao', ancient Chinese structures of space, presence (you) vs nonpresence (wu) and a conclusion for where Daoism stands within Contemporary Philosophy. A little dense towards the end. Overall, a book worth reading for anyone fascinated by the topic and should really be apart of any artists' bookshelf. (less)
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Jun 24, 2010Finbar rated it really liked it
Shelves: history, lit-crit, philo-sloppy, social-science

This is a great book on Daoism. I enjoyed Moeller's style of writing. He makes a subject that is often obtuse and shrouded in obscure metaphor clear and direct. I highly recommend this for anyone interested in Daoism or for those who have dabbled but were unable to penetrate the veil. (less)

I've been rambling my way through and in and out of the Daodejing for some time now. That philosophical-aphoristic work is at times incredibly deep and instructive and at times incredibly cryptic.

Mr. Moeller's book, beginning with a history of Daoism and continuing with a breakdown of Daoist images, allegories, and dialogues, really clarifies a ton and makes me feel equipped to dive back into the DDJ and move on to things like the Zhuangzhi, the I Ching, and others. In the western world, the DDJ is often sold as an ancient book about how to live, in a similar way that the Bible was often pitched to me as an adolescent as a "blueprint for life". Well, anyone who's read the Bible cover-to-cover, really read it without ideology behind their eyes, can tell you that it's no clear blueprint for life (which isn't to say it doesn't contain wisdom). In the same way, no one who's really read the DDJ could honestly drop it in your lap and tell you it's a guide to life.

Daoism Explained reveals the origin of the DDJ as a political book--a book for ancient elites about how to lead. The "I" perspective of the book gets misconstrued in western readings as the individualistic "everyman": the book references "the master" as me, right? As someone to become, right? Well, no. A lot of it is talking about how to run a country, in the way that Plato's Republic was. And like The Republic, a lot of it is relevant to the individual's life and way of living, but approaching the book without some background info is going to lead you astray. Which is where Daoism explained comes in.

Because the meat of the book is Mr. Moeller going through Daoist texts and stripping away the traditional, westernized interpretations of them, that often squeezed the texts into familiar philosophical shapes at the cost of perverting and in some cases inverting them entirely. It's incredibly refreshing, nuanced, and rooted in readings of ancient commentators on the Daoist texts themselves, not simply Mr. Moeller's "new interpretation".

If you ever get intrigued by the Daodejing, I'd say, take a leisurely week and read it (you could read through it in an hour, but you'll want to let it breathe). And then read Daoism Explained next, and you'll be pretty damn well equipped to continue on. Highly recommended.

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Nov 27, 2021Chancakes rated it it was amazing

The books does a really good job of introducing Daoism in a rigourous way that is often missing in English presentations of the the tradition. He clarifies western misunderstandings of Daoism that have been perpetuated since the earliest encounters and translations of Daoist texts from the 19-20th century. Hoeller unpacks the various allegories employed in both the Laozi and the Zhuangzi, in addition to citing other texts like the Huainan Zi to clarify points in the former two.

Someone downsides to the book is I think a lack of exploration of the Neo-Daoist interpretations of Laozi from authors like Wangbi, which, arguably had the largest impact on the legact of Daoist thought in China post the Han period. Moeller criticised Wangbi and other Neo-Daoists for an overly metahphysical reading of the Laozi but it seems they are just drawing out the metahphysical and ontological thought present in the text. Either way they are an important branch of Daoism that I think would have been good to introduce. (less)
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Apr 14, 2019Matt rated it really liked it
Shelves: philosophy

A clear and concise overview of philosophical Daoism as well as explaining some of the pitfalls in interpreting Daoist texts based on their translations. A good place to start before reading the Daodejing or Zhuangzi.
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Apr 25, 2020Peter Sheffield rated it it was ok
Shelves: eastern-philosophy
Stilted and dry, not my cup of tea!
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Dec 08, 2009Colin Hoad rated it liked it
Shelves: research-books
An interesting book that seeks to place Taoism as a philosophy apart from the Western tradition. The author asserts that a number of assumptions Western scholars have regarding Taoism are based upon inaccurate early translations of key Taoist texts, including the famous "butterfly dream" parable in the Book of Zhuangzi. Moeller sketches out a new philosophical framework for Taoism and invites the reader to appraise it as a distinctively Chinese system of thought as opposed to a mere branch of existing Western philosophy. (less)
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Daoism Explained: From the Dream of the Butterfly to the Fishnet Allegory
Ideas Explained, Book 1
By: Hans-Georg Moeller
Narrated by: Simon Barber
Length: 8 hrs and 2 mins
Release date: 28-03-2019
Language: English
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Daoism Explained: From the Dream of the Butterfly to the Fishnet Allegory (review)
Carine Defoort
China Review International
University of Hawai'i Press
Volume 14, Number 1, Spring 2007
pp. 179-185

Review

Reviewed by:
Carine Defoort (bio)
Hans-Georg Moeller. Daoism Explained: From the Dream of the Butterfly to the Fishnet Allegory. Chicago: Open Court, 2005. viii, 178 pp. Paperback $16.95, ISBN 0–8126–9563–1.


When Zhuang Zhou dreamt and turned into a butterfly, there was Zhou and there was the butterfly. There had to be a distinction between them, according to Zhuangzi, which he relates to the “changing of things.”1 In the case of Hans-Georg Moeller, there is the sinology scholar and there is the philosopher, there is the German professor and the Canadian chair. This book, Daoism Explained, is to some extent the result of his “changing of jobs” from Germany to Canada, since it is the translation of his earlier work In der Mitte des Kreises: Daoistisches Denken (Insel Verlag, 2001). And it is, more importantly, the fruitful result of the author’s expertise in both sinology and philosophy.2

The intention of the author is to free Daoist philosophy from the “metaphysical ballast” in which it has been submerged by “Western” interpretations, but not exclusively by Western scholars (p. vii). He therefore searches more “original” readings of the Laozi and the Zhuangzi and stresses the differences between ancient Daoist and modern Western philosophy. Moeller tries to avoid the Laozi commentary of Wang Bi, who “developed a nearly ‘metaphysical’ concept” of Daoist core notions (p. 15). Instead, he often takes recourse to Guo Xiang’s interpretation of the Zhuangzi because that is “a much more original contribution to Daoist philosophy” (p. 15) as opposed to “Wang Bi’s somewhat pompous and static reification of Dao” (p. 16). To some readers this may sound a bit unpromising, like one more simplistic depiction of China as the absolute Other by a postmodern Westerner. But that is not the case: Daoism Explained presents, aside from some general comparative statements about “China” and “the West,” many powerful images, subtle philosophical insights, and refreshingly new interpretations.

Following a short introduction, the book is divided into four major parts: (1) images and allegories, (2) issues, (3) structures, and (4) perspectives. 

The introduction (pp. 1–26) is a concise and largely chronological presentation of Daoism, beginning with Laozi and the Daodejing, followed by the Zhuangzi, Huang-Lao Daoism (Han), Daoist mysticism (Wei-Jin commentaries), Daoist practice (from the Later Han onward), Daoism today, and ending with the concept of “Dao.” In each case the author provides his readers (mainly perceived as philosophically rather than sinologically trained Westerners)3 with the basic information concerning sources, recent discoveries, authorship, and general context. At this introductory stage, Moeller does not join any debate, but presents the stage clearly and comprehensively. [End Page 179]

Part 1 (pp. 27–65) discusses various interconnected Daoist images in the Laozi and well-known allegories in the Zhuangzi. The first and most elaborated image is that of the wheel, with its opposition between the empty hub and the spokes around it: “Thirty spokes are united in one hub. It is in its [space of] emptiness where the usefulness of the cart is” (p. 27, Laozi 11). The opposition between the hub and the spokes is absolute, complementary, and momentary. Insight into their collaboration teaches one how to behave effectively in the world. The hub is the central, empty, single, undifferentiated, and unmoving pivot. By its very nature it allows the orderly action of all the different spokes. They are many, peripheral, well distinguished, and rotating orderly, permanently, and without overlapping each other. Although this interplay of center and periphery is so of itself (ziran), it is not easy for humans to realize.4 Only one trained to be a sage is able to wu wei er wu bu wei: remain nonactive at the center so that every action can orderly take place in the periphery. “If one understands their respective functions and their relation to each other, one realizes what ancient Daoism saw as essential factors determining the success or failure of an action or a process” (p. 28). Other important images in the Laozi are water, the female, and the root. Water symbolizes the power of what...

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