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The question of whether it is right to eat animal flesh is among the most prominent topics in food ethics.[1] People choose not to eat meat for various reasons such as concern for animal welfare, the environmental impact of meat production (environmental vegetarianism), and health considerations.[2] Some argue that slaughtering animals solely because people enjoy the taste of meat is morally wrong or unjustifiable.[3][4] Vegans often abstain from other animal products for similar reasons.

Ethical vegetarians and ethical vegans[5] may also object to the practices underlying the production of meat, or cite concerns about animal welfareanimal rightsenvironmental ethics, and religious reasons. In response, some proponents of meat-eating have adduced various scientific, cultural, and religious arguments in support of the practice.[citation needed] Some meat-eaters only object to rearing animals in certain ways, such as in factory farms, or killing them with cruelty; others avoid only certain meats, such as veal or foie gras.

Overview of the argument against meat eating[edit]

Cattle carcasses in a slaughterhouse.[6]

Peter SingerPrinceton University and University of Melbourne professor and pioneer of the animal liberation movement—has long argued that, if it is possible to survive and be healthy without eating meat, fish, dairy, or eggs, one ought to choose that option instead of causing unnecessary harm to animals. In Animal Liberation, Singer argued that, because non-human animals feel, they should be treated according to utilitarian ethics. Singer's work has since been widely built upon by philosophers, both those who agree[7] and those who do not,[8] and it has been applied by animal rights advocates[9] as well as by ethical vegetarians and vegans.

Ethical vegetarians say that the reasons for not hurting or killing animals are similar to the reasons for not hurting or killing humans. They argue that killing an animal, like killing a human, can only be justified in extreme circumstances; consuming a living creature just for its taste, for convenience, or out of habit is not justifiable. Some ethicists have added that humans, unlike other animals, are morally conscious of their behavior and have a choice; this is why there are laws governing human behavior, and why it is subject to moral standards.[10]

Ethical vegetarian concerns have become more widespread in developed countries, particularly because of the spread of factory farming, more open and graphic documentation of what human meat-eating entails for the animal,[11] and environmental consciousness. Some proponents of meat-eating argue that the current mass demand for meat has to be satisfied with a mass-production system, regardless of the welfare of animals. Less radical proponents argue that practices like well-managed free-range rearing and the consumption of hunted animals, particularly from species whose natural predators have been significantly eliminated, could satisfy the demand for mass-produced meat.[12] Reducing the worldwide massive food waste would also contribute to reduce meat waste and therefore save animals.[13][14] According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, about a third of the food for human consumption is wasted globally (around 1.3 billion tons per year).[15]

Some have described unequal treatment of humans and animals as a form of speciesism such as anthropocentrism or human-centeredness. Val Plumwood (1993, 1996) has argued that anthropocentrism plays a role in green theory that is analogous to androcentrism in feminist theory and ethnocentrism in anti-racist theory. Plumwood calls human-centredness "anthropocentrism" to emphasize this parallel. By analogy with racism and sexismMelanie Joy has dubbed meat-eating "carnism". The animal rights movement seeks an end to the rigid moral and legal distinction drawn between human and non-human animals, an end to the status of animals as property, and an end to their use in the research, food, clothing, and entertainment industries.[16][17] Peter Singer, in his ethical philosophy of what it is to be a "person", argues that livestock animals feel enough to deserve better treatment than they receive. Many thinkers have questioned the morality not only of the double standard underlying speciesism but also the double standard underlying the fact that people support treatment of cows, pigs, and chickens that they would never allow with pet dogs, cats, or birds.[7]

Jay Bost, agroecologist and winner of The New York Times' essay contest on the ethics of eating meat, summarized his argument in the following way: "eating meat raised in specific circumstances is ethical; eating meat raised in other circumstances is unethical" in regard to environmental usage. He proposes that if "ethical is defined as living in the most ecologically benign way, then in fairly specific circumstances, of which each eater must educate himself, eating meat is ethical." The specific circumstances he mentions include using animals to cycle nutrients and convert sun to food.[18] Ethicists like Tom Regan and Peter Singer define "ethical" in terms of suffering rather than ecologyMark Rowlands argues that the real determinant of whether it is ethical to cause suffering is whether there is any vital need to cause it; if not, then causing it is unethical.[7]

Animal consciousness[edit]

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Ethologist Jane Goodall stated in the 2009 book The Inner World of Farm Animals that "farm animals feel pleasure and sadness, excitement and resentment, depression, fear and pain. They are much more sensitive and intelligent than we ever imagined."[19] In 2012, a group of well known neuroscientists[20] stated in the "Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness in Non-Human Animals" that all mammals and birds (such as farm animals), and other animals, possess the neurological substrates that generate consciousness and are able to experience affective states.[21] Eugene Linden, author of The Parrot's Lament, suggests that many examples of animal behavior and intelligence seem to indicate both emotion and a level of consciousness that we would normally ascribe only to our own species.

Philosopher Daniel Dennett counters:

Consciousness requires a certain kind of informational organization that does not seem to be "hard-wired" in humans, but is instilled by human culture. Moreover, consciousness is not a black-or-white, all-or-nothing type of phenomenon, as is often assumed. The differences between humans and other species are so great that speculations about animal consciousness seem ungrounded. Many authors simply assume that an animal like a bat has a point of view, but there seems to be little interest in exploring the details involved.[22]

Philosophers Peter Singer (Princeton), Jeff McMahan (Oxford) and others also counter that the issue is not one of consciousness, but of sentience.[23]

Pain[edit]

A related argument revolves around non-human organisms' ability to feel pain. If animals could be shown to suffer, as humans do, then many of the arguments against human suffering could be extended to animals.[24] One such reaction is transmarginal inhibition, a phenomenon observed in humans and some animals akin to mental breakdown.

As noted by John Webster (emeritus professor of animal husbandry at the University of Bristol):

People have assumed that intelligence is linked to the ability to suffer and that because animals have smaller brains they suffer less than humans. That is a pathetic piece of logic, sentient animals have the capacity to experience pleasure and are motivated to seek it, you only have to watch how cows and lambs both seek and enjoy pleasure when they lie with their heads raised to the sun on a perfect English summer's day. Just like humans.[25]

Influences on views of animal consciousness[edit]

When people choose to do things about which they are ambivalent and which they would have difficulty justifying, they experience a state of cognitive dissonance, which can lead to rationalizationdenial, or even self-deception. For example, a 2011 experiment found that, when the harm that their meat-eating causes animals is explicitly brought to people's attention, they tend to rate those animals as possessing fewer mental capacities compared to when the harm is not brought to their attention. This is especially evident when people expect to eat meat in the near future. Such denial makes it less uncomfortable for people to eat animals. The data suggest that people who consume meat go to great lengths to try to resolve these moral inconsistencies between their beliefs and behaviour by adjusting their beliefs about what animals are capable of feeling.[26] This perception can lead to paradoxical conclusions about the ethics and comfort involved in preferring certain types of meat over others. For example, venison or meat from a wild deer generally has a much higher nutritional quality and a much lower carbon footprint than meat from domestically-raised animals. In addition, it can be virtually assured that the deer was never bred or raised in unnatural conditions, confined to a cage, fed an unnatural diet of grain, or injected with any artificial hormones. However, since the necessary act of killing a deer to procure the venison is generally much more apparent to anyone who encounters this sort of meat, some people can be even more uncomfortable with eating this than meat from animals raised on factory farms. Many ethical vegetarians and ethical meat-eaters argue that it is behaviour rather than supporting beliefs that should be adjusted.


Environmental argument[edit]

monocultivated potato field

Some people choose to be vegetarian or vegan for environmental reasons.

According to a 2006 report by LEAD Livestock's Long Shadow, "the livestock sector emerges as one of the top two or three most significant contributors to the most serious environmental problems, at every scale from local to global."[27] The livestock sector is probably the largest source of water pollution (due to animal wastes, fertilizers, and pesticides), contributing to eutrophication, human health problems, and the emergence of antibiotic resistance. It accounts also for over 8% of global human water use.

Livestock production is by far the biggest user of land, as it accounts for 40% of the global land surface.[28] It is probably the leading player in biodiversity loss, as it causes deforestationland degradation, pollution, climate change, and overfishing.[27][29][30] A 2017 study by the World Wildlife Fund found that 60% of biodiversity loss can be attributed to the vast scale of feed crop cultivation needed to rear tens of billions of farm animals.[31] Livestock is also responsible for at least 20% of the world's greenhouse gas emissions, which are the main cause of the current climate change. This is due to feed production, enteric fermentation from ruminants, manure storage and processing, and transportation of animal products.[32] The greenhouse gas emissions from livestock production greatly exceeds the greenhouse gas emissions of any other human activity. Some authors argue that by far the best thing we can do to slow climate change is a global shift towards a vegetarian or vegan diet.[33] A 2017 study published in the journal Carbon Balance and Management found animal agriculture's global methane emissions are 11% higher than previously estimated.[34] In November 2017, 15,364 world scientists signed a warning to humanity calling for, among other things, "promoting dietary shifts towards mostly plant-based foods."[35] A 2019 report in The Lancet recommended that global meat consumption be reduced by 50 percent to mitigate climate change.[36]

Many developing countries, including China and India, are moving away from traditional plant-based diets to meat-intensive diets as the result of modernization and globalization, which has facilitated the spread of Western consumer cultures around the world. Over 200 billion animals are consumed by the global population of over 7 billion every year, and meat consumption is projected to more than double by 2050 as the population grows to over 9 billion.[37] A 2018 study published in Science states that meat consumption could rise by as much as 76% by 2050 as the result of human population growth and rising affluence, which will increase greenhouse gas emissions and further reduce biodiversity.[38]

Animals that feed on grain or rely on grazing require more water than grain crops.[39] Producing 1 kg of meat requires up to 15,000 liters of water.[40] According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), growing crops for farm animals requires nearly half of the US water supply and 80% of its agricultural land. Animals raised for food in the US consume 90% of the soy crop, 80% of the corn crop, and 70% of its grain.[41] However, where an extensive farming system (as opposed to a feedlot) is used, some water and nutrients are returned to the soil to provide a benefit to the pasture. This cycling and processing of water and nutrients is less prevalent in most plant production systems, so may bring the efficiency rate of animal production closer to the efficiency of plant based agricultural systems.[42] In tracking food animal production from the feed through to the dinner table, the inefficiencies of meat, milk, and egg production range from a 4:1 energy input to protein output ratio up to 54:1.[43] The result is that producing animal-based food is typically much less efficient than the harvesting of grains, vegetables, legumes, seeds, and fruits.

There are also environmentalist arguments in favor of the morality of eating meat. One such line of argument holds that sentience and individual welfare are less important to morality than the greater ecological good. Following environmentalist Aldo Leopold's principle that the sole criterion for morality is preserving the "integrity, stability and beauty of the biotic community", this position asserts that sustainable hunting and animal agriculture are environmentally healthy and therefore good.[44][45]

Religious traditions of eating meat[edit]

Cow slaughter laws in various states of India

Hinduism holds vegetarianism as an ideal for three reasons: the principle of nonviolence (ahimsa) applied to animals; the intention to offer only "pure" (vegetarian) or sattvic food to a deity and then to receive it back as prasad; and the conviction that an insentient diet is beneficial for a healthy body and mind and that non-vegetarian food is detrimental for the mind and for spiritual development. Buddhist vegetarianism has similar strictures against hurting animals. The actual practices of Hindus and Buddhists vary according to their community and according to regional traditions. Jains are especially rigorous about not harming sentient organisms.[citation needed]

Islamic Law and Judaism have dietary guidelines called Halal and Kashrut, respectively. In Judaism, meat that may be consumed according to halakha (Jewish law) is termed kosher; meat that is not compliant with Jewish law is called treif. Causing unnecessary pain to animals is prohibited by the principle of tza'ar ba'alei chayim. While it is neither required nor prohibited for Jews to eat meat, a number of medieval scholars of Judaism, such as Joseph Albo and Isaac Arama, regard vegetarianism as a moral ideal.

In Christianity as practised by members of Eastern Orthodox ChurchRoman Catholic ChurchGreek Catholic Church, and others, it is prohibited to eat meat in times of fasting. Rules of fasting also vary. There are also Christian monastic orders that practice vegetarianism.

Shinto has a concept of kegare, which means a state of pollution and defilement, and traditionally eating animals is thought to be one of them.[46] Eating animals having more legs is thought to be worse. (Eating mammals is worse than eating chickens or fish.) This concept leads to discrimination against slaughtermen and people who work with leather, who are called burakumin.[47][48] Shinran, the founder of the Buddhist sect Jōdo Shinshū, taught that lower class who had to kill beings could enter nirvana even though killing animals was thought to be immoral.

Criticisms and responses[edit]

Morals[edit]

It has been argued that a moral community requires all participants to be able to make moral decisions, but animals are incapable of making moral choices (e.g., a tiger would not refrain from eating a human because it was morally wrong; it would decide whether to attack based on its survival needs, as dictated by hunger). Thus, some opponents of ethical vegetarianism argue that the analogy between killing animals and killing people is misleading.[49] For example, Hsiao (2015) compares the moral severity of harming animals to that of picking a flower or introducing malware into a computer.[49] Others have argued that humans are capable of culture, innovation, and the sublimation of instinct in order to act in an ethical manner while animals are not, and so are unequal to humans on a moral level. This does not excuse cruelty, but it implies animals are not morally equivalent to humans and do not possess the rights a human has.[50] The precise definition of a moral community is not simple, but Hsiao defines membership by the ability to know one's own good and that of other members, and to be able to grasp this in the abstract. He claims that non-human animals do not meet this standard.[49]

Benjamin Franklin describes his conversion to vegetarianism in chapter one of his autobiography, but then he describes why he (periodically) ceased vegetarianism in his later life:

...in my first voyage from Boston...our people set about catching cod, and hauled up a great many. Hitherto I had stuck to my resolution of not eating animal food... But I had formerly been a great lover of fish, and, when this came hot out of the frying-pan, it smelt admirably well. I balanc'd some time between principle and inclination, till I recollected that, when the fish were opened, I saw smaller fish taken out of their stomachs; then thought I, "If you eat one another, I don't see why we mayn't eat you." So I din'd upon cod very heartily, and continued to eat with other people, returning only now and then occasionally to a vegetable diet. So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable creature, since it enables one to find or make a reason for everything one has a mind to do.[51]

One study found that approximately 60% of contemporary professional ethicists consider it "morally bad" to eat meat from mammals.[52] Writing in Current Affairs, Nathan J. Robinson describes the billions of non-human animals that suffer and die at the hands of human beings for consumption as a "holocaust" and, citing Jeremy Bentham's formulation "The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?" contends that it is "morally reprehensible" and "deeply wrong".[53] Conversely, Jan Narveson argues that under certain theories of utilitarianism, positive utility can be increased by having more living organisms to experience it and thus by increasing the animal population so it can later be eaten, these theories could potentially justify raising animals for the purposes of consumption.[54]

Animal welfare[edit]

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Various programs operate in the US that promote the notion that animals raised for food can be treated humanely. Some spokespeople for the factory farming industry argue that the animals are better off in total confinement. For example, according to F J "Sonny" Faison, president of Carroll's Foods:

They're in state-of-the-art confinement facilities. The conditions that we keep these animals in are much more humane than when they were out in the field. Today they're in housing that is environmentally controlled in many respects. And the feed is right there for them all the time, and water, fresh water. They're looked after in some of the best conditions, because the healthier and [more] content that animal, the better it grows. So we're very interested in their well-being up to an extent.[55]

In response, animal welfare advocates ask for evidence that any factory-bred animal is better off caged than free.[56] Farm Sanctuary argue that commodifying and slaughtering animals is incompatible with the definition of "humane".[57] Animal ethicists such as Gary Francione have argued that reducing animal suffering is not enough; it needs to be made illegal and abolished.

Oysters[edit]

Peter Singer[58] has pointed out that the ethical argument for vegetarianism may not apply to all non-vegetarian food. For example, any arguments against causing pain to animals would not apply to animals that do not feel pain. It has also often been noted that, while it takes a lot more grain to feed some animals such as cows for human consumption than it takes to feed a human directly, not all animals consume land plants (or other animals that consume land plants). For example, oysters consume underwater plankton and algae. In 2010, Christopher Cox wrote:

Biologically, oysters are not in the plant kingdom, but when it comes to ethical eating, they are almost indistinguishable from plants. Oyster farms account for 95 percent of all oyster consumption and have a minimal negative impact on their ecosystems; there are even nonprofit projects devoted to cultivating oysters as a way to improve water quality. Since so many oysters are farmed, there's little danger of overfishing. No forests are cleared for oysters, no fertilizer is needed, and no grain goes to waste to feed them—they have a diet of plankton, which is about as close to the bottom of the food chain as you can get. Oyster cultivation also avoids many of the negative side effects of plant agriculture: There are no bees needed to pollinate oysters, no pesticides required to kill off other insects, and for the most part, oyster farms operate without the collateral damage of accidentally killing other animals during harvesting.[59]

Cox went on to suggest that oysters would be acceptable to eat, even by strict ethical criteria, if they did not feel: "while you could give them the benefit of the doubt, you could also say that unless some new evidence of a capacity for pain emerges, the doubt is so slight that there is no good reason for avoiding eating sustainably produced oysters." Cox has added that, although he believes in some of the ethical reasons for vegetarianism, he is not strictly a vegan or even a vegetarian because he consumes oysters.

Animal and plant pain[edit]

Critics of ethical vegetarianism say that there is no agreement on where to draw the line between organisms that can and cannot feel. Justin Leiber, a philosophy professor at Oxford University, writes that:

Montaigne is ecumenical in this respect, claiming consciousness for spiders and ants, and even writing of our duties to trees and plants. Singer and Clarke agree in denying consciousness to sponges. Singer locates the distinction somewhere between the shrimp and the oyster. He, with rather considerable convenience for one who is thundering hard accusations at others, slides by the case of insects and spiders and bacteria, they pace Montaigne, apparently and rather conveniently do not feel pain. The intrepid Midgley, on the other hand, seems willing to speculate about the subjective experience of tapeworms ...Nagel ... appears to draw the line at flounders and wasps, though more recently he speaks of the inner life of cockroaches.[60]

There are also some who argue that, although only suffering animals feel anguish, plants, like all organisms, have evolved mechanisms for survival. No living organism can be described as "wanting" to die for another organism's sustenance.[61] In an article written for The New York Times, Carol Kaesuk Yoon argues that:

When a plant is wounded, its body immediately kicks into protection mode. It releases a bouquet of volatile chemicals, which in some cases have been shown to induce neighboring plants to pre-emptively step up their own chemical defenses and in other cases to lure in predators of the beasts that may be causing the damage to the plants. Inside the plant, repair systems are engaged and defenses are mounted, the molecular details of which scientists are still working out, but which involve signaling molecules coursing through the body to rally the cellular troops, even the enlisting of the genome itself, which begins churning out defense-related proteins ... If you think about it, though, why would we expect any organism to lie down and die for our dinner? Organisms have evolved to do everything in their power to avoid being extinguished. How long would any lineage be likely to last if its members effectively didn't care if you killed them?[62]

Animals killed in crop harvesting[edit]

Steven Davis, a professor of animal science at Oregon State University, argues that the least harm principle does not require giving up all meat. Davis states that a diet containing beef from grass-fed ruminants such as cattle would kill fewer animals than a vegetarian diet, particularly when one takes into account animals killed by agriculture.[63]

This conclusion has been criticized by Jason Gaverick Matheny (founder of in vitro meat organization New Harvest) because it calculates the number of animals killed per acre (instead of per consumer). Matheny says that, when the numbers are adjusted, Davis' argument shows veganism as perpetrating the least harm.[64] Davis' argument has also been criticized by Andy Lamey for being based on only two studies that may not represent commercial agricultural practices. When differentiating between animals killed by farm machinery and those killed by other animals, he says that the studies again show veganism to do the "least harm".[65]

Non-meat products[edit]

Egg-laying chickens in battery cages

One of the main differences between a vegan and a typical vegetarian diet is the avoidance of both eggs and dairy products such as milk, cheese, butter, and yogurt. Ethical vegans do not consume dairy or eggs because they understand their production causes animal suffering or premature death[66] and because of the environmental effect of dairy production.[67][68] According to a report of the United Nations’ Food and Agriculture Organization in 2010 the dairy sector accounted for 4 percent of global man-made greenhouse gas emissions.[69][70]

To produce milk from dairy cattle, most calves are separated from their mothers soon after birth and fed milk replacement in order to retain the cows' milk for human consumption.[71] Animal welfare advocates point out that this breaks the natural bond between the mother and her calf.[71] Unwanted male calves are either slaughtered at birth or sent for veal production.[71] To prolong lactation, dairy cows are almost permanently kept pregnant through artificial insemination.[71] Although cows' natural life expectancy is about twenty years,[66] after about five years the cows' milk production has dropped; they are then considered "spent" and are sent to slaughter for meat and leather.[72][73]

Battery cages are the predominant form of housing for laying hens worldwide; these cages reduce aggression and cannibalism among hens, but are barren, restrict movement, and increase rates of osteoporosis.[74][75][76] In these systems and in free-range egg production, unwanted male chicks are culled and killed at birth during the process of securing a further generation of egg-laying hens.[77] It is estimated that an average consumer of eggs who eats 200 eggs per year for 70 years of his or her life is responsible for the deaths of 140 birds, and that an average consumer of milk who drinks 190 kg per year for 70 years is responsible for the deaths of 2.5 cows.[78]

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New book questions ethics of meat industry


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SHANE MCLEOD: To an ethical question - why for most Australians would eating fish be okay but dining on dog meat would be distasteful?

The relationship between humans and the animals we eat is the subject of a new book by the novelist Jonathan Safran Foer, who is questioning the way modern society relies on industrial farming to feed us.

He says high intensity farming has alarming environmental and social costs but also raises profound ethical questions about the decisions we make about what we eat.

While he's become a vegetarian he's not advocating it for everyone. Jonathan Safran Foer says instead we should be certain we're comfortable with how our food ends up on our plates.

JONATHAN SAFRAN FOER: I approach these issues not as any kind of activist or journalist or philosopher, clearly not a farmer; but rather as a father.


When my wife became pregnant with our first child and I faced the prospect of having to make food choices on someone else's behalf I took the question as seriously as I could and meat poses the biggest questions when it comes to what we're going to eat.

SHANE MCLEOD: Why don't people talk about where meat comes from?

JONATHAN SAFRAN FOER: They don't talk about it for a few reasons - some of them good, some of them bad.

The good reasons are because it cuts to something very deep about who we are; you know, what our grandparents fed us, what our parents fed us, what we feed our children, how we think of ourselves as humans in the animal world, how we think of our relationship to the environment - very, very big questions.

And the sense that one might not be operating up to one's own standards can be very intimidating. It can encourage a kind of willed ignorance. Like, I just don't want to know about it. I don't want to go there.

The other, less good reason is because, in American in particular but it's all over, spread all over the world there's a real veil of secrecy around animal agriculture.

In America more than 99 per cent of the animals that are raised for meat are raised on what are called factory farms, which basically means they're raised usually indoors, usually never see the sun, never touch the earth.

And factory farming depends on consumers holding in their minds an image of a different kind of farm. The kind of farms that covered the globe only 50 years ago. A farm where a farmer interacts with animals personally, where animals live outdoors, where they have not been genetically modified, where it isn't necessary to give them antibiotics before they're sick.

So as long as consumers hold that image in their minds they don't get too upset about eating meat.

SHANE MCLEOD: Is it by intention or necessity you think that people have adopted willed ignorance when it comes to the source of meat?

JONATHAN SAFRAN FOER: Well different people, you know, act in different ways so I don't want to make any generalisations that are too broad. How about speaking for myself? (Laughs) Because I spent much of my life...

SHANE MCLEOD: We'd be prepared to question you personally.

JONATHAN SAFRAN FOER: You know speaking for myself I have been an on-and-off vegetarian for much of my life but I've probably, you know, eaten meat for more time in my life than not.

And during those periods did I suddenly forget everything that I knew that once motivated me to be a vegetarian? No of course not. I just thought, this stuff tastes good. This stuff smells good. This is very convenient. It's a very easy way to get full. Heck, my friends are eating it...

SHANE MCLEOD: And you don't think too much about where it's coming from.

JONATHAN SAFRAN FOER: You push the questions out of your mind. But you know we do this all the time with many, many other things as well. There's homeless people, you know, in every, just about every neighbourhood in the world. There's certainly children who don't have the advantages that we would want them all to have in life, the opportunities.

Their problems surround us and clearly we're not racing to solve all of them. So you know part of being a human is simply to get by in the world requires a certain amount of willed forgetting.

The difference with animal agriculture is first of all the scale. So we're talking about 50 billion animals that are factory farmed every year. We're talking about the number one cause of global warming, and not by a little bit but by a long shot.

This is big. And the interesting sort of counterpoint to that is what it would take to undo it is small. You know we don't have to elect a new government. We don't have to spend tens or hundreds of billions of dollars. And we don't need to find a new set of values. All we need to do is eat according to the values we already have.

SHANE MCLEOD: Are you saying that the choice we should make is vegetarian?

JONATHAN SAFRAN FOER: No. I'm saying the choice we should make is to reject factory farmed meat.


In the course of my research I went to many small farms. Here we call them family farms; basically farms where the person who owns it has some involvement in the day-to-day activities, they're not run by corporations, you know, miles away or on the other side of the country; where animals live outdoors, they live according to their own species' instincts; where they're given enough land to graze properly which also happens to be the amount of manure that the ground can feasibly take.

So those kinds of farms, I wouldn't eat the products of those farms but I wouldn't argue, or at least I wouldn't argue strongly against someone else doing it. If all farms were as, looked as farms did 50 years ago I would not have written my book.

SHANE MCLEOD: Because we're dealing with food products that have been consumed for millennia. It's really the modern interpretation of these agricultural production methods that you're particularly concerned about.

JONATHAN SAFRAN FOER: That's exactly right. You know we, in America, we now eat 150 times as much chicken as we did 80 years ago, a really startling statistic.

And do we do this because we suddenly decided it tastes really, really great and we just never realised it before? No, of course not. We do it for two reasons - one because McDonald's invented the kind of chicken you don't need silverware to eat, it's deep fried and you pick it up; and two because these agribusiness corporations found ways of raising tens of thousands of chickens at a time for very, very little money.

So what factory farming succeeded in doing, and they will talk about this a lot, is making cheap food.

The problem is it's only cheap at the cash register. All the real costs are externalised - the environmental toll, the cost to rural communities, the cost to land values, the air and water pollution, the you know human health costs, the swine and avian flu always trace back to factory farms. These are massive costs.

SHANE MCLEOD: Jonathan Safran Foer, the author of the new book Eating Animals. And you'll find an extended version of that interview later today at our website: abc.net.au/worldtoday.

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이 두 가지가 자주 충돌할 수 있다고 나는 생각하는데.. 첫째로, 종교는 사후세계에 대한 관심이 많고 또 당장 세상을 바꾸는 일보다는 나 자신 어떻게 더 나은 인간이 되는가에 집중하는 것이 그 최우선 관심사이기 때문. 남을 바꾸는 일이 아예 불가능하다고 전제하는 종교도 있고. 그리고 둘째로, 대부분의 영적 전통들에서는 이승에서 일어나는 일들의 표면 아래에 어떤 섭리 (그것이 신의 계획이든 업이든 뭐든)가 부분적으로나마 작용하고 있다고 믿기에, 운명 결정론까지는 아닐지언정 일단은 그 섭리의 존재를 인정하고 불평불만하지 않는 것을 현실 개선을 위한 노력의 출발점으로 삼기 때문.
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그러다 보니, "불평불만이나 남 탓 하지 마라," "너무 예민한 거 아니냐?", "넌 왜 그리 부정적이냐?" 류의 얘기가 '피해자를 비난'하거나 혹은 오히려 피해자의 '회개'/'참회'를 권하는 폭력!으로 귀결될 위험성도 다분. 이런 행동은 성직자조차 극도로 조심해야 할 일이건만, (1) 성직자도 아닌 사람이, (2) 사회적 이슈 관련하여, (3) 영성 관련 입장이 자신과 동일하지도 않은, (4) 그리고 그 이슈를 해결하고자 노력하는 운동가/실천가 혹은 제3자에게 하는 것은, 결과적으로 언론탄압처럼 작용할 수도 있는 부적절한 행동이라고 나는 생각. 그런데 류시화 시인의 12월 3일자 게시물에서 그런 의도치 않은 부작용의 가능성이 보여 불편했던 게 아닌가 싶다.
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[인용] "'전쟁을 싫어한다'라고 말하는 대신 '평화를 좋아한다'라고 말하는 그녀를 나는 더 좋아할 것이다. ... ... '거위털 패딩이 싫다'라고 말하는 대신 '손으로 뜨개질한 네팔산 스웨터가 좋다'라고 말하는 그녀를 나는 만나고 싶다. ... ... 세상에는 두 종류의 사람이 있다. '나는 불행한 것이 싫어'라고 말하는 사람과 '나는 행복한 것이 좋아'라고 말하는 사람이. 예민한 사람일수록 싫어하는 것이 많다. 하지만 우리가 부여받은 예민함은 좋은 것, 아름다운 것, 위대한 것을 발견하는 능력이어야 한다. 자기 주위에 벽을 쌓는 쪽으로 그 재능이 쓰여선 안 된다."
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전쟁을 싫어한다 말하지 말고 평화를 좋아한다 말하라고 테레사 수념이 말씀하셨던 것 같은데.. 사실은, "환경보호가 좋아요"라는 시위보다 "탄소배출을 줄이자"라는 시위가 좀더 효과적이지 않겠는지. 암튼, 종교적 성찰/수행과 지구라는 사회의 구성원으로서의 의무를 병행하는 일 혹은 그 둘 사이에서 균형을 잡는 일. 마치 서커스 외줄타기처럼 어려울 수밖에. 그러니 이 문제는 오롯이 각자의 사적인 문제로 남겨두는 게 좋지 않겠나 싶다. 특정 종교 단체 내부에서 그 종교의 신자들끼리 상호작용하는 상황이 아니라 종교 밖 맥락에서 다른 사회 구성원들과 상호작용할 때는, 가급적 법과 상식에만 근거하여 비판을 하든 논쟁을 하든 요청을 하든 그러는 게 좋을 것 같고. 전혀 다른 두 층위를 뒤섞어 남에게 강요하거나 남 억압하지 말자.

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希修 최소한 초기불교에선 긍정을 위한 긍정을 가르치지 않는다. 초기불교 관점으로는 긍정을 위한 긍정은 오히려, '망상'이나 '긍정 에너지가 가져다 주는 감각적 즐거움에의 집착'이라고까지 볼 수 있지 않을까 싶다.

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Jihye Tak 希修 긍정 에너지가 가져다주는 감각적 즐거움에의 집착 이 말 참 좋네요...
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希修 당장 기분 좋고 마음 편한 것이 중요하기에 모래 속에 머리 파묻고 현실 부정하는 타조같은 어리석음 + 뭔가 좀 심오해 보이고 싶은 허영, 이 둘의 결합이 바로 '긍정을 위한 긍정' 아닌가 싶어요 - 전부는 아니지만 적잖은 경우. 아, 나 왜 이리 '부정적'이고 '예민'하며 '삐딱'까지 한지 말이예요.. ㅎㅎ
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Jihye Tak 希修 심오해 보이고 싶은 허영 이거 보니 생각나는 사람 있네요... 제 눈엔 뭐그렇게 심오한거 같지 않은데 주변 반응은 엄청 깊이가 있고 철학적이고 내면이 꽉 차있고 등등등 이랬거든요. 이걸 보고 사람들이 잘 모르거나 그 사람이 듣고싶어하는 말을 놀랍도록 잘 캐치한다 싶더라구요
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希修 Jihye Tak 소비자의 필요와 기호/취향에 민감해야 팔리니까요, ㅎㅎ.
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希修 불교에 대한 오해 #5. 나보다 남을 우선하는 것이 무아

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남 앞에서 무조건 자신을 낮추고, 자신보다 남을 더 위하며, 매사 남의 생각을 따르고 남의 비위를 모두 맞춰 주어야 '무아'라고, 그렇게 하지 않으면 "에고가 너무 강한" 것이라고 생각하는 분들이 있는데.. 이것 역시 초기불교의 관점과는 꽤나 거리가 있다고 나는 생각한다.
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(1) 모든 인간이 이 세상 전체에서 자기 자신을 가장 사랑하는 것이 당연한 사실이라고, 그 누구도 타인을 자기 자신보다 더 사랑할 수는 없다고, Rājan Sutta는 인정한다. 부모의 자식 사랑은 예외적인 면이 있지만, 인간이 말하는 '사랑'은 사실 '나의 즐거움을 위해 상대를 소비하는 행위'라 볼 수 있는 측면이 없지 않다 
(a). 이런 상호 간의 소비가 상호 합의에 의한 것이며 그 합의대로 이행되고 그 과정에서 쌍방이 보람을 느낄 때를 '건강한 관계'라 부르며, 그렇지 않고 일방적 소비/학대가 될 때 '불건강한 관계'가 되는 것. 이걸 인정하고 기억해야 서로 조심하며 존중할 수 있고, 그러지 못 하면 죽고 못 산다며 결혼해 놓고는 원수되어 이혼하는 것. 그러나 부처님은 인간에게 불가능한 것을 하라고 말씀하시지도 않고 인간의 현실을 미화하시지도 않는다. Charlotte Joko Beck 선사 역시, 무아는 self-centered도 아니고 타인 위주로 생각하고 행동하는 other-centered도 아니며 그냥 centered일 뿐이라고 했다. (불교에서 'centered'는 자기호흡에 대한 관조를 단 1초도 놓지 않는, constant mindfulness를 의미.) 그러니, 자신보다 남을 우선하라는 가르침이 불교의 무아라는 생각은 오해일 뿐.
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(2) 부처님의 제자들이 모여 있는 곳에 어떤 노인이 나타나 어른대접 않는다고 야단치자, 우리 승단에서도 당연히 어른을 공경하는데 어른은 나이만 많다고 어른이 아니라 지혜가 있어야 어른이건만 내 눈에 지금 여기서 어른은 보이지 않는다 라고, 부처님 제자가 그 노인에게 대놓고 말하는 일화가 잡아함 20권 547경에 나온다 (b).
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(3) 평생토록 수행한 노인들도 세상에 수두룩하건만 새파랗게 젊은 수행자인 그대가 어떻게 감히 해탈했다고 주장하는가?라고 Pasenadi라는 왕이 부처님을 힐난하자, 나이와 지혜는 무관하다, 깨달음을 완성했다고 말할 수 있는 이가 있다면 그건 유일하게 본인뿐이라고 부처님이 말씀하시는 장면도 Kosala Saṃyutta에 나온다 (c). (이 일화는 "천상천하 유아독존"을 "나 혼자 fully 깨달은 사람"이라고 해석하는 것에도 방증이 됨.)
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'깨달은/수행하는 이는 남 앞에서 자신을 낮추고 섬기며, 자신을 드러내려고 하지 않을 것'이라는 우리의 '겸손 강박'은 2번에 이어 3번에서도 무참히 깨진다. (그렇다고 3번 일화를 "부처님의 잘난 척"이라고 이해하는 사람이 있다면 그건, 세상 모두가 자신 앞에서 굽실거리지 않으면 불안/불편해 못 견디는 열등감과 오만이 결합된 꼬인 마음일 뿐. 부처님은 사실을 사실대로 기술하셨을 뿐.) 암튼 우리가 생각하는 종류의 겸손이 불교에서도 중요하다면, 2번이나 3번 같은 사례들, '오만방자'와 '에고'라는 것의 전형으로 보이는 이런 사례들은 아예 경전에 나올 수 없을 터.
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그러므로 위 세 가지 경우들을 통해 우리는, 자신을 남보다 낮추거나 무조건 남을 편하게/기분좋게 해 주려는 노력이 불교의 가르침과는 퍽 다르다는 결론을 얻게 된다. 그럼 이기적이고 자기중심적으로 살으라고 불교는 가르치는 것인가?하면 물론 그것도 당연히 아니다. 마치 디지털 카메라로 사진 찍을 때 portrait 모드로 찍으면 주인공 얼굴만 또렷이 나오고 그 외에는 흐릿하게 나오듯이, 우리가 하는 모든 생각은 '나'라는 대상/주어에 모든 포커스가 맞춰져 있는데, 그러지 말고 촛점을 과정/술어에 두고서 매사를 impersonal 하게, '나의 이익/즐거움/소망'의 관점이 아닌 오직 '인과'의 관점에서만 바라보라는 것이 바로 불교의 무아라고 나는 이해한다 (d). 'not selfish/arrogant'는 이런 전환의 결과일 뿐 무아의 목적은 아닌 것이고.
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우리가 이런 오해들을 갖게 된 이유는 그럼 무엇일까? 한 쪽 극단의 부작용을 피하기 위해 반대쪽 극단으로 무작정 달려가는 우리의 맹목성 때문 아닐까 싶다. 불교의 업이론은 "과거 업도 미래 업도 니 컨트롤 밖이고 니가 컨트롤할 수 있는 것은 오직 지금 여기에서의 니 행동뿐이니 매순간의 현재에서 탐진치 없는 선택을 하라"는 것이 요지. 다시 말해, 매순간 짓는 선업을 그동안 축적되어 온 과거의 업에 추가함으로써 운명을 바꾸어 나갈 수 있다, 라는 얘기. 업이론 자체 내에 이미 '가능성'과 '희망'이 내재되어 있건만, 그러니 '있는 그대로 보는' 것으로 이미 충분히 긍정적!이건만, 우린 비관적/부정적인 내용도 무조건 비틀고 왜곡하여 억지로 낙관적/긍정적으로만 생각하는 것을 해결책이라고 믿는다. 무아도 마찬가지. 자기중심적이고 이기적이기 쉬운 것이 인간의 본성이긴 하지만, 이에 대한 해결책은 남을 우선시하고 나를 낮추는 데에 있지 않다. 나의 이기심이나 남의 이기심이나 '수준 낮'기는 매한가지이건만, 나의 이기심에 복종하여 사는 것이 어리석은 일이라면 남의 이기심에 맞춰 내 삶을 사는 일이 대체 어떻게 '현명한' 일이 될 수 있겠는지? '나는 겸손한, 이타적인 사람이 되어야 한다'라는 집착은 우리가 기존에 알고 있던 자기중심주의의 뒷면일 뿐, 여전히 '과정/술어 아닌 대상/주어에 대한 집착'이라는 one and the same 동전인 것. '내가 남보다 위'라는 생각뿐 아니라 '내가 남보다 아래'라는 생각 역시 conceit (자만)이라고 아비담마 (e)가 말하는 것도 이런 이유이며, 우리가 생각하던 식의 겸손이나 사랑 대신 사무량심으로 충분한 것 (f).
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(a) "Our bodies need physical food for their well-being. Our minds need the food of pleasant sensory contacts, intentions, and consciousness itself in order to function. If you ever want proof that interconnectedness isn't always something to celebrate, just contemplate how the beings of the world feed on one another, physically and emotionally. Interbeing is inter-eating. As Ajaan Suwat, my second teacher once said, "If there were a god who could arrange that by my eating I could make everyone in the world full, I'd bow down to that god." But that's not how eating works."
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/…/thani…/purityofheart.html…
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(b) 존경은 지혜에 비례

https://www.facebook.com/keepsurfinglife/posts/1236430540062360
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(c) http://www.suttas.com/8203chapter-3-kosala-samyutta-with-th…
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(d) 무아와 윤회

https://www.facebook.com/keepsurfinglife/posts/1150079848697430
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(e) 자만 => #20.

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=924118681293549&set=a.906304756408275
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(f) 용서와 자비희사

https://www.facebook.com/keepsurfinglife/posts/1095805154124900




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Sungsoo Hong 나의 즐거움을 위해 상대를 소비하는 행위.. 뼈때린다.
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希修 Sungsoo Hong 부처님은 사랑/pema에 대해 부정적이셨지..
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希修 Beecher 첫 1년은 무조건 아이가 원하는 대로 100% 다 해 주고

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어떤 비상상황에서도, 내 몸이 아파도 도움받을 곳 없이, 배달이라는 건 소금처럼 짠 도미노피자밖에 없던 시절 외국에서 아이 둘을 키우면서 때로는 왠지 운명에 속은(?) 듯한 기분이 들기도 했었지만.. 살면서 우울한 기분이 들 때, 특히 코로나 시기 기분이 다운될 때마다 '아이들 둘 다 건강하다는 사실만으로도 얼마나 엄청난 복인가?'를 생각하면 불평하고 싶은 마음이 쑥 들어간다. 이런 저런 복들 중에 자신이 받고 싶은 복을 선택하고 저 어려움이 이 복에 반드시 딸려오고, 삶이 그런 식으로 전개되는 것은 물론 아니지만, 둘째가 기저귀 떼고 나자 수 년동안 축적된 심신의 육아피로가 갑자기 몰려오면서 우울증 초기증상이 보이던 시기도 있었고 몸건강 회복에 적잖은 시간이 걸렸지만, 그래도 내 경우엔 해 본 일들 중 가장 힘들었던 것도 가장 보람있다 생각되었던 일도 육아인 듯..
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우연히 마주친 Beecher의 얘기에 공감이 가서. 첫 1년은 무조건 아이가 원하는 대로 100% 다 해 주고 그 후론 부모의 말을 take seriously 하는 법을 가르치는 게 more than worth all the effort 하다고 나도 생각. 수달의 저 모습은, 낮이건 밤이건 내가 아이들 재울 때 실제로 딱 저 모습으로 매일 저렇게 인간침대가 되어 주곤 했음. 아이가 낮잠을 자야 나도 '아이에 종속된 노예' 아닌 '독립된 인간'으로서의 자유시간을 좀 가질 수가 있는데, 큰 아이는 낮잠을 거의 안 자는 편이었기 때문에 어떤 날은 오후 내내 저러고 있다 지나가고..
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내가 다른 걱정 없이 육아에 집중할 수 있었던 것. 내가 받은 많고 많은 복들 중 하나. 코로나 시기가 되고 보니 특히, 내 정신건강을 지탱해 주는 것도 결국은 남편과 아이들과, 아기 때는 역시 수달처럼 안아서 낮잠을 재운 애견, 애묘.. 아, 페북도 있네, ㅎㅎ..




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Jane Han 다 커서 나가면 더 좋습니다. 다시 들어올까봐 걱정되기도 하구요. ㅋ ㅎㅎ
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希修 동시에.. 이것도 사실..

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얼마 전, 성공하거나 경제적 여력이 있으면 무엇을 선택할 것이냐는 질문에, 여성의 70% 가량은 비혼을, 남성의 80% 가량은 결혼을 택할 거라는 통계를 보았다. 이 기사를 보고, 잠깐 멈칫한 것이, 그렇게 많은 여성이 비혼을 원한다는 게 놀라워서였다. 반면, 남자들은 경제적 여력만 있으면 대부분 결혼을 원한다는 것인데, 이런 차이가 다소 의아하기도 하면서, 머지않아 이해가 될 것 같았다. 먼저 떠오른 건, 내가 청년 시절을 거치며 보았던 여성 친구들이었다.

학교에서, 스터디를 하면서, 그밖의 공간에서 만났던 그 많은 사람들 모두는 저마다 삶에 대한 열망이나 꿈, 직업적인 희망 같은 것을 갖고 있었다. 누군가는 PD가 되고 싶어했고, 누군가는 기자가, 누군가는 음악인이나 변호사, 건축 디자이너나 금융회사 직원이, 교수나 교사가 되고 싶어했다. 그 중에서 빨리 결혼해서 평생 엄마로만 살고 싶다는 사람은, 내가 아는 한, 한 명도 없었다. 이는 남여가 전혀 다르지 않았고, 실제로 함께 협력하거나 경쟁하면서 그런 저마다의 길을 걸어가는 게 내가 아는 청년 시절이었다.

그런데 삼십대 중반쯤 되어 주변을 둘러보니, 결혼으로 자기 사회생활이나 경력이 타격을 입은 남성은 거의 단 한 명도 없는 반면, 여성들 중 거의 절반 이상은 직장을 그만두었고 경력단절 여성이 되었다. 물론, 그 중에는 직장생활이 너무 힘들어서 자발적으로 그만두고 오히려 가정생활을 좋아하는 경우도 있다. 그런데 내가 아는 한, 비자발적인 포기가 훨씬 많을 뿐더러, 처음에는 자발적으로 전업주부를 택한 여성들도 대략 아이가 학교 갈 때쯤부터는, 그 단절된 경력을 복구하기 위해 부단히도 애쓰는 경우가 대부분이었다. 그러니까, 적어도 결혼이라는 하나의 현상을 놓고 봤을 때, 이게 현실적으로 남성에게 주는 영향 보다는 여성에게 주는 영향이 압도적이라는 것은 실제로 주변을 보면 알 수 있다.

아마 결혼에 대한 이런 극단적인 인식 차이는 그런 데서 비롯되는 게 아닐까 싶다. 남자는 일단 자기가 성공하고 돈만 많이 벌면, 자기 취향에 맞는 여자 만나서, 결혼하고, 가정을 꾸리고, 자기 자신의 사회생활에는 어떠한 타격도 없이 인생을 이어가리라는 것을 매우 자연스럽게 상상할 수 있는 것이다. 반면, 여자는 아무리 자기가 성공하더라도, 결혼하고 아이를 낳는 순간, 엄청난 갈등과 고민 속에서 무엇을 포기하고 말아야 할지에 대한 결정적인 벽 앞에 선다는 걸 미리 예견하고 있는 게 아닐까 싶다. 그러다보니, 아직 사랑하는 아이가 생기기 전부터, 그 무언가에 마음을 주고 딜레마에 빠지기 전부터, 자기가 꿈꿔왔고 사랑해왔던 직업이나 진로를 포기할 수 없다는 생각을 먼저 하게 되는 것이다.

그러니까, 사실 이것은 남여가 이성을 더 필요로 한다든지, 더 사랑하고 함께 살고 하고 싶어한다든지 하는 문제와는 다소 무관한 것이라는 생각이 든다. 내가 아는 한, 사랑과 연애, 이성을 만나는 일에 대한 관심은 결코 여성이 남성보다 덜하지 않다. 오히려 남성 못지 않게 여성도 사랑하는 사람을 만나고, 함께 살고, 행복한 삶을 함께 꾸려나가고 싶은 마음이 적지 않다. 그런데 이게 단순히 사랑이나 연애 같은 문제를 넘어서 '결혼'의 문제가 되면, 무엇을 포기하거나 포기하지 말아야 할 것인가의 문제가 되고, 그 지점에서 남성과 여성의 입장이 완전히 달라지는 것이다. 남성에게 결혼은 무척 자연스러운 연애와 사랑의 연장이라면, 여성에게 결혼은 돌이킬 수 없는 포기와 단절을 먼저 상상하게 하는 것이다.

실제로 직장인들이 출근하는 시간에, 동네 문화센터에 가보면, 열에 여덟은 아이 엄마가 아이들을 데리고 온다. 그리고 열에 둘은 할머니나 할아버지가 데리고 온다. 그것만으로도 결혼과 출산 이후, 삶의 지형이 어떻게 바뀌는지를 거의 즉각적으로 이해를 하게 된다. 지역마다 맘카페는 있어도, 

아빠들 모임은 찾기가 어렵다

. 사실, 많은 사람들이 서로를 사랑하는 존재를 만나 함께 사랑하며 살아가길 꿈꿀 것이다. 그런데 누군가에게 그런 새로운 삶은, 플러스에 가깝기만 한 반면, 누군가에게는 마이너스를 먼저 생각해야만 한다면, 당연히 그에 대한 태도도 달라질 수밖에 없을 것이다. 남여가 다르지 않았던, 같은 인생 레이스를 달린다고 믿었던 이십대 이후에, 삶이 어떤 식으로, 어떻게 다른 방식으로 각자에게 가혹해지는지를 점점 알아가게 된다. 그런데 적어도 결혼이라는 것은, 그 시작 전부터 여성에게 훨씬 가혹할 수 있는 무엇으로 다가온다는 것이다.

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