Transcript
now to a new documentary about the
pioneering life of former president
jimmy carter's mother it's entitled miss
lillian here's a clip
after jimmy
had got my nomination for president
all three television networks had their
mobile units outside the train depot
here in plains that was campaign
headquarters
well she was a favorite of a news media
every morning on my way into
headquarters
i would stop by each trailer and have a
cup of coffee
let's say she knocked in my door first
knock on the door oh mr lynn come in oh
well i just thought i'd stop by and say
hello bye would you like some coffee
yeah yes i would i'd like a cup would
you like a little pick up in your coffee
don't mind if i do we take her bourbon
down for a little bit splash in the
coffee and sit and talk i go to the abc
trailer
have a cup of coffee a little pick me up
and she'd say goodbye and she'd go over
the cbs trailer
we'd see her knock on the door
15 minutes or so she'd come out she'd go
to the nbc trailer knock on the door i
think when she left the last trailer she
probably was in good shape a little pick
up every place by the time i got to
headquarters i was one happy gal
everyone needs to pick up in the morning
we appreciated that oh
fantastic joining us now the veteran
reporter and news anchor that you saw in
that clip sam donaldson he is featured
in the documentary having interviewed
lillian carter numerous times during his
long television career i love her i mean
you just can't stop watching her she is
such a character tell us about miss
lillian
well let's say mika i loved her i liked
her son jimmy but without going to that
administration
um it was the mother that really
captured our hearts in the press corps
and i'll tell you she was a liberal she
voted for john kennedy she taught her
children one thing about black people
and that is they were just as good as
white people and they deserve respect
and consideration so when her son became
governor in his inaugural regress and
said to the people of georgia the time
for racial discrimination has ended and
the clan marched around the capitol that
was lillian talking and making one more
thing that really stood out she was
blunt she was plain spoken she said what
she thought
she had you know four children uh ruth
was a faith healer christian faith
healer and billy who ran a gas station
drank a lot of beer
and gloria rode a motorcycle he was a
member of the harley club and miss leon
told everyone that gloria was the
smartest of her four children
and
the fourth one was the president of the
united states but
so what mom
what to me chop liver
you know
also looking at her life sam she trained
as a nurse she worked in a hospital
during the day and again to point to
what the point you just made
about race uh she cared for
african-american families in their homes
i mean she she was ahead of her time
at 68 years of age she joined the peace
corps she went to india for a year she
really cared about people and she taught
her children to care about people when
jimmy carter and his administration said
human rights are on the table with every
country we talked to he was talking miss
lillian said that's exactly right son i
mean she had taught him that
and one more story i'd like to tell you
about her spokenness
that uh
the press secretary told and i wasn't
there that was a woman reporter came in
they didn't like the woman very much she
was a good reporter but
finally gave her an interview with miss
lillian
and the woman sat down and said now miss
lillian your son the governor this is
1976 is going around the country saying
i'll never lie to you
did he ever tell the lie in his life
well miss lillian said according to jody
powell the press secretary uh no i don't
think he did really well maybe a little
white lie ah said the woman
what's the white lie mr lynn
well miss lillian said remember when you
came in i said how nice you looked and
how glad i was to see you
i mean lordy lordy
oh
bless your heart is what she was saying
uh elise jordan you have the next
question that's hysterical sam elise
jordan here i love you that you were
showcasing hello
such a strong southern woman who
obviously had great influence on her son
and i find her story fascinating because
it's one thing for president carter to
have held evolved views on race and
human rights given the decades he lived
in but miss lillian was born in the turn
of the century deep south georgia what
can you tell us about how her upbringing
and background influenced her beliefs
very little i i was on another
assignment in 1898 when she was born but
in just looking at her biography and all
of that
in a small town of archery new georgia
what caused her
to be a person who understood human
rights and the civil rights of everybody
in this country
i'm just not confident to tell you all i
know is that she did and i know she
infused her children with the same view
and jimmy carter would say the same
thing if he were here today god bless
him he's 98 he's doing well
but she was the force in the life her
husband and jimmy's father
was a man of the south i'm not saying
he's a racist i'm not saying that at all
i'm simply saying that he was a
southerner and he didn't have the same
view as his wife
did about all of this but clearly she
ran the family at least from the
standpoint of making the children
hey sam it's richard haas good morning
long time no talk
uh a long time
when uh
here we are we're talking about russia
invading a country well that happened in
1979 with afghanistan we're talking
about inflation being really high we're
talking about a president who doesn't
seem to be bonding with the american
people
you covered the carter presidency you're
you're watching the biden presidency are
you struck by the similarities or the
differences more
what's your take on it
well more the differences i think both
people both men are decent men
both men you don't come to the
presidency as you know richard as well
as anyone saying i'm going to destroy it
well you don't do it consciously at
least i may know of one exception but
the point is
biden's the man of the senate he thought
conciliation let's work together that's
the way we used to do it they discovered
this first year no that's not the way
the republicans are going to do it
if you come to a knife fight richard in
the alley you better bring a bigger
knife
not
here's some saab for the wounds
in the case of
other presidents
they've learned this nixon knew how to
do it
and george herbert walker bush also knew
about washington and you got to know
something about washington i think one
of jimmy carter's problems was he
thought he could just do it because he's
president he meant well well that's not
that's not the way it works and today
richard i want to ask you the question
what's happening
in the donbass what's happening in the
so-called non-invasion which in fact
obviously is an invasion and how do we
react
nika do i have the right to answer that
you go right ahead what are we looking
ahead to today especially coming from
the white house
it's just very hard salmon to think that
it stabilizes there given what mr putin
has said publicly and his vision so we
say for ukraine's reintegration
it's very hard for me to see whether
there's diplomacy or not how this is the
end of it it seems to me it marches
forward and i can see a lot of
possibilities for getting uh things
deteriorating the white house is going
to introduce new new economic sanctions
but i i just don't think they're going
to be strong enough to fundamentally
alter mr putin's mr putin's calculus so
i think this is uh this could be a long
siege
and we better start thinking about how
we sustain it over time
all right richard thank you and
yeah uh sam donaldson will be watching
this play out we'll also be watching
miss lillian uh you can find miss
lillian available to buy or rent now on
apple tv
google play and amazon prime
and
sam donaldson thank you so much for
sharing this with us
thanks mika daughter of the greatest big
i liked him oh
thank you i loved him and really miss
him right now more than ever that's for
sure sam donaldson great to see you
thank you so much
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