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Meridian Exercise for Self Healing: Classified by Common Symptoms Paperback – Illustrated, 9 April 2010
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Over 200 easy-to-follow, fully-illustrated meridian and qigong exercises.
Meridian exercise is a self-care technique perfected over thousands of years in the Asian healing traditions. It combines breathing, movement, stretching, and focused attention to help you make progress toward improving balance, flexibility, and resilience.
This full-color, user-friendly book is organized by specific ailments and areas of the body for easy reference. Find the meridian exercises you need to step up your physical, mental, and emotional well-being.
Meridian Exercise for Self-Healing includes:
Low-impact, time-efficient exercises
Step-by-step instructions with photos for dozens of exercises specifically designed for common symptoms
Breathing and relaxation techniques to awaken innate healing power and maximize the benefits of meridian exercise
Additional explanation of the meridian system of healing with illustrations of each meridian
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I am a massage therapist who regularly sees 5-6 clients per day. So, self-care is necessary for me. This book is a great resource for me to help me stay in tip-top shape and always ready to see my clients. I also refer to this book when I need to recommend exercises for my clients to do in between their appointments with me.
- Gail Clemente, Massage Therapist, San Jose, CA
As a multi-generation acupuncturist, I know the value and benefit of meridian exercise. It's something I teach to my clients to do at home so that they make more progress between sessions and have better results. Meridian Exercise for Self-Healing by Ilchi Lee is my go-to resource for meridian exercises because it is authentic, accurate, and comprehensive, with over 200 exercises organized by symptoms.
- Banya Lim, Acupuncturist, LAc, Sedona, AZ
As an Acupuncture Physician, I encourage patients to exercise, eat well, and manage stress. I recommend patients to purchase this text for self-healing.
- Donna Kini-Bowen, Acupuncture Physician, Orlando, FL
I very much appreciate how this book imparts a straightforward understanding of a valuable mind-body practice. This guidebook is a wonderful resource for teaching us and our patients how to better know and attend to our own wondrous mind-bodies, and provide comfort, hope, and self-healing.
- Deborah Coady, MD, OB/GYN, New York, NY
What Is Meridian Exercise?
Movement, breathing, and awareness combined
Simple, mindful movements combined with breathing that stimulate and activate what Asian medicine practitioners call chi or ki in your body. The Asian healing arts traditions developed and perfected Meridian Exercise over thousands of years.
Unblock stuck energy to bring balance
Meridian Exercise includes stretching, shaking and vibration, held postures, tai chi-like movement, joint rotation, and self-acupressure. Just like acupuncture and shiatsu, Meridian Exercise unblocks stuck energy in your body's energy channels to put your body back into balance.
Effective for:
Hypertension
Back pain and stiff neck
Headaches
Joint and muscle pain
Colds and flu
Insomnia
PMS and mood swings
Fatigue and hangover
Meridian Exercise for Self-Healing Classified by Common Symptoms Features:
Time-Tested Techniques
Low-impact, time-efficient exercises that relieve stress, restore physical health, and rebalance the mind.
Easy-to-Follow Instructions
Step-by-step instructions with accompanying photos for dozens of exercises specifically designed for common symptoms.
Mindful Movements
Breathing and relaxation techniques to awaken innate healing power and maximize the benefits of meridian exercise.
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About the Author
Biography
Ilchi Lee is a respected educator and impassioned visionary devoted to teaching energy principles and developing the full potential of the human brain.
He has developed many mind-body training methods, including Body & Brain Yoga (BodynBrain.com) and Brain Education. His principles and methods have helped many people around the world to live healthier, happier lives. To teach his methods online, he started the education website ChangeYourEnergy.com.
Lee is also a New York Times bestselling author who has penned over 40 books, including The Call of Sedona: Journey of the Heart, Change: Realizing Your Greatest Potential, and Brain Wave Vibration: Getting Back into the Rhythm of a Happy, Healthy Life.
His books have been translated into about ten different languages and are sold in at least eleven countries around the world. Lee's Living Tao: Timeless Principles for Everyday Enlightenment was awarded a medal in the 2015 Foreword Reviews INDIEFAB Book of the Year Awards, The Power Brain: Five Steps to Upgrading Your Brain Operating System won the 2017 Living Now Best in Mind Award, and his books have won ten other awards in the U.S.
He is also a well-respected humanitarian who founded the Earth Citizen Movement (EarthCitizens.org), and who has been working with the United Nations and other organizations for global peace. Lee serves as the president of the University of Brain Education and the International Brain Education Association (IBREA, IBREAFoundation.org).
For more information about Ilchi Lee and his work, visit ilchi.com.
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decius01
4.0 out of 5 stars It's an amazing book, but the price tag is a little ...Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on 17 September 2017
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I've known about this book for a long time due to a friend who practices TCM.... but I just now decided to get around to picking it up. Arrived in short order. It's an amazing book, but the price tag is a little hefty, otherwise I'd rate it 5 stars. Still a great purchase and definitely recommended.
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Cheryl
5.0 out of 5 stars highly recommendedReviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on 22 September 2010
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Meridian Exercise for Self-Healing is a fantastic reference guide containing movements specific to many ailments. The book is well laid out with easy to find tab-design pages, and offers many suggestions for such topics as colds, back pain, heart disease, liver disorders, skin disorders etc. Also included are the basics of meridian points, and energy centers. Throughout, this guide contains photos (demonstrating positions) or coherent diagrams, making meridian self-healing exercises easy to understand for everyone. Highly recommended, this book is a wealth of information.
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Lillian
5.0 out of 5 stars 👍👍Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on 7 July 2019
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Love it, sorry that the doesn’t have more
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Lucie Roussin
5.0 out of 5 stars Awesome bookReviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on 25 January 2014
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My colleague had this book for her clients and I loved that I could give my clients some exercises to stimulate maybe a thyroid. Which is my problem and I have used this book for myself and it has helped me tremendously.
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5.0 out of 5 stars Ejercicios de Qigong que estan agrupados por enfermedadesReviewed in Spain 🇪🇸 on 23 March 2023
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Lo ejercicios están bien representados en imágenes claras y que son de fácil realización
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5.0 out of 5 stars Ejercicios de Qigong que estan agrupados por enfermedadesReviewed in Spain 🇪🇸 on 23 March 2023
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Lo ejercicios están bien representados en imágenes claras y que son de fácil realización
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5.0 out of 5 stars Looking forward to some self healingReviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 31 March 2022
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I bought this book because I already use meridian stretches and find them really helpful.
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Muriel M
4.0 out of 5 stars Les méridiens sans la sagesse du Qi GongReviewed in France 🇫🇷 on 20 March 2019
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Ce livre comprend de nombreuses postures et mouvements. Les photos sont jolies. Le texte clair avec des indications des respirations.
Ce sont toutes des postures que l'on retrouve dans la pratique du Qi Gong, du yoga ou des arts martiaux asiatiques (car ils sont également basés sur le parcours des méridiens de la médecine traditionnelle chinoise). Mais le danger de ce livre serait de "faire ses courses" dans une posture ou l'autre pour guérir le mal du moment. Au risque de forcer.
Au contraire les pratiques comme le Qi Gong, sont basées sur une pratique équilibrée, sans excès.
Donc je déconseille ce livre comme auto-médication. Par contre, pour les pratiquants réguliers de Qi Gong, Yoga ou autres activités physiques, ce livre le permettra de se remémorer certains exercices ainsi que les recommandations qu'ils auront reçus de leur formateur. Je le trouve utile.
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spartan
5.0 out of 5 stars VERY NICE BOOK, MANAGEABLE EXERCISES, NO COMPLICATED THEORIES OF FALSE CLAIMS. I like it better than yoga books.Reviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 11 March 2018
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Manageable exercises, clear explanation, no complicated theories or claims, just exercises you can try at home, accesible for everybody.
I immediately like this better than all the yoga stuff (and people), although to me it seems very similar.
It is just a book that gets you going right away, at your own pace, and doesn't give you the feeling "god, I'm never going to be able to do that".
Most exercises are explained in a few photopgraphs and compact paragraphs. No pages full of theories etc.
You can immediately pick a subject, try some exercises that are manageable to you.
Also, there are a lot of exercises that are cross-referenced, so you can explore the book in a non-linear way so to speak.
I think this is very nice.
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martha white
3.0 out of 5 stars DisappointedReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 12 February 2022
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Lots of beautiful pics but book is mainly illustrations. Light on info relating to the meridians and the stretches. Was looking for more meat to the book.
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Louise Brokenborough
5.0 out of 5 stars Health benefits of yoga moves.Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 15 December 2021
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I'm a senior, many of the moves are easy for seniors to perform, make one more flexible, and help arthritic joints GENTLY.
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Ninjagal
5.0 out of 5 stars Great resource for self-care exercises and relief for symptoms-based conditionsReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 9 December 2020
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I'm a Bodyworker by profession. Unfortunately the pandemic affected my work significantly. This book has very easy to follow simple stretches and exercises based on symptoms. Great for self-care and for recommending simple execises to do to help alleviate symptoms.
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steven lemner
5.0 out of 5 stars Align your energyReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 5 January 2022
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A great resource to help connect and mind and body. Easy format.
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dolly
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent easy to understand photographsReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 31 December 2021
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Love this book can be used immediately easy to understand
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decius01
4.0 out of 5 stars It's an amazing book, but the price tag is a little ...Reviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on 17 September 2017
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I've known about this book for a long time due to a friend who practices TCM.... but I just now decided to get around to picking it up. Arrived in short order. It's an amazing book, but the price tag is a little hefty, otherwise I'd rate it 5 stars. Still a great purchase and definitely recommended.
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Bluesky
4.0 out of 5 stars Very extensive and well describedReviewed in Germany 🇩🇪 on 29 April 2013
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A book that really leaves nothing to be desired - exactly what it promises. The individual exercises are clearly explained using photos, and there is also a precise, written explanation for each step. Easy to understand - but there are also some demanding exercises, but you can always choose an easier exercise. Only the loose clothing of the practitioners in the photos could be criticized: they sometimes conceal the exact positions during the exercises - but that makes up for the good descriptions. I can't yet judge whether the exercises help with the various complaints, but gently stretching and moving the body again can never hurt. Highly recommended!
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3.0 out of 5 stars Odor from Coating on book badReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 3 August 2019
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When I opened my Amazon package, the strong odor from the book was awful. I know some book makers put coatings on books and the pages and this smell is too much for me. I have yet to look at it. I have had it on my deck for the last 24 hours and hope the sun and heat will take that odor away. I am sure this book is really a good one and will update when the odor goes away.
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Maureen Godfrey
5.0 out of 5 stars A great reference bookReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 11 September 2019
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This book describes the principles of different stretches and how the open different energy meridian channels. You don't need to know much about how it works as the book does a great job of leading you through step by step, explaining what is best for different conditions or symptoms. It becomes a practice and education all in one.
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Kim
5.0 out of 5 stars Such a great presentation..Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 14 October 2020
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Excellent pictures that help explain exercises.
The exercises are simple yet leave me feeling refreshed
and like I am doing something good for myself.
Thank you
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Joyreins
5.0 out of 5 stars Excellent reference book of conditions and poses.Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 26 April 2020
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This is an excellent reference book of body conditions and areas, and poses. It explains and shows how to do them, and what each does. I recommend it.
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audrey
5.0 out of 5 stars A good resource to cure any physical problemReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 11 October 2015
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I always recommend this book for anyone looking to use exercise to alleviate specific body pain. My most amazing result came when I returned from vacation with sciatic pain so bad I could hardly sit in the car for long. I started doing the focused sciatic exercises daily and was without pain within a week. I now do them every other day and have had no return of pain. That series takes less than 10 minutes of my morning….well worth the time….as the book is well worth the money.
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Eclectic Collector
5.0 out of 5 stars Great!Reviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 6 July 2020
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Love the organization! I can find anything I'm looking for and has routines for specific ailments. Love it!
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Cheryl
5.0 out of 5 stars highly recommendedReviewed in Canada 🇨🇦 on 22 September 2010
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Meridian Exercise for Self-Healing is a fantastic reference guide containing movements specific to many ailments. The book is well laid out with easy to find tab-design pages, and offers many suggestions for such topics as colds, back pain, heart disease, liver disorders, skin disorders etc. Also included are the basics of meridian points, and energy centers. Throughout, this guide contains photos (demonstrating positions) or coherent diagrams, making meridian self-healing exercises easy to understand for everyone. Highly recommended, this book is a wealth of information.
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John A. Orlando
5.0 out of 5 stars A book on the Meridians ... hot off the press ...Reviewed in Italy 🇮🇹 on 15 March 2014
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This book is excellent not only because it is new, explaining ancient or little-known things in the West such as Chakras and Meridians ... but it does it in a very clear and expert way ... and at the same time expert.
Great ... Everyone should do these exercises ... Although Falun Dafa may be a better introduction ... not forgetting the DNA Alignment Exercises for the first 12 stages ... called Waves ... known only to a narrow Elite of people very consonant with these Dynamics ... The New Age has arrived ...
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christopher drozd
5.0 out of 5 stars Nicely composed and easily usableReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 29 November 2019
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Clearly written, photographed, and arranged. A rather complete approach to using qigong / yoga type postures / movements to therapeutically affect the body / mind.
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Body & Brain Yoga Tai Chi: A Beginner's Guide to Holistic Wellness : Body & Brain Yoga Education: Amazon.com.au: Books
Body & Brain Yoga Tai Chi: A Beginner's Guide to Holistic Wellness Paperback – Illustrated, 18 November 2020
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Body & Brain Yoga is an integrated mind-body training method originating in Korea. It's part of the Brain Education system of personal development created by Ilchi Lee. Through consistent study of Body & Brain Yoga's principles of energy, practitioners cultivate greater personal power while developing genuine connection of body and mind.
There are currently over 100 Body & Brain Yoga centers in the United States. You can also find active participants around the world in countries such as Canada, the United Kingdom, France, South Korea, Japan, China, Belgium, Poland, Russia, and El Salvador.
Body & Brain Yoga Tai Chi offers an easy-to-follow, step-by-step illustrated guide to the meridian stretching, breathing exercises, energy work, and meditation techniques that lead to holistic wellness. It also provides an introduction to the essential energy principles that underlie the practice.
Whether you are completely new to Body & Brain Yoga or an experienced practitioner, Body & Brain Yoga Tai Chi will help you:
- Develop a fit and flexible body
- Boost your energy and vitality
- Quiet your mind and inspire creativity
- Cultivate a feeling of well-being
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5.0 out of 5 stars Easy to understand, INSTANTLY applicableReviewed in the United States 🇺🇸 on 19 November 2020
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A great introduction to how the condition of the body is affected by way more than what we can just see at a quick glance. The book makes it easy to understand how to get ourselves (and KEEP ourselves) on track, in a way that fits into any modern lifestyle. I use some of the exercises every day now and my digestion and posture have definitely improved. Can't wait to work in more little by little. HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
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Body & Brain Yoga is an integrated mind-body training method originating in Korea. It's part of the Brain Education system of personal development created by Ilchi Lee. Through consistent study of Body & Brain Yoga's principles of energy, practitioners cultivate greater personal power while developing genuine connection of body and mind.
There are currently over 100 Body & Brain Yoga centers in the United States. You can also find active participants around the world in countries such as Canada, the United Kingdom, France, South Korea, Japan, China, Belgium, Poland, Russia, and El Salvador.
Body & Brain Yoga Tai Chi offers an easy-to-follow, step-by-step illustrated guide to the meridian stretching, breathing exercises, energy work, and meditation techniques that lead to holistic wellness. It also provides an introduction to the essential energy principles that underlie the practice.
Whether you are completely new to Body & Brain Yoga or an experienced practitioner, Body & Brain Yoga Tai Chi will help
• Develop a fit and flexible body
• Boost your energy and vitality
• Quiet your mind and inspire creativity
• Cultivate a feeling of well-being
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A great introduction to how the condition of the body is affected by way more than what we can just see at a quick glance. The book makes it easy to understand how to get ourselves (and KEEP ourselves) on track, in a way that fits into any modern lifestyle. I use some of the exercises every day now and my digestion and posture have definitely improved. Can't wait to work in more little by little. HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
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I started reading this book. I was deeper understanding about body & energy system chakra & spirit. I could learn basic of body and brain yoga. Also i could understand how to develop my energy and achieve health, happiness, peace. I really recommend this book who want to start self care & wellbeing. This book give you good guidence!
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Every Body & Brain Yoga Tai Chi practitioner should have this book. It's a great reference to explain the energy principles and why we do certain exercises in our Body & Brain classes. The book is great introduction to Body & Brain with clear pictures and descriptions of exercises, stretches, and tai chi postures. Really good book for people looking for a self-healing practice.
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This book taught me the exercises that helped me tremendously on how to take care of my body and my brain. I really recommend this book to anyone who's looking to learn basic energy system in the body and how to take care of them with simple exercises like basic yoga stretches and tai chi movements.
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I have practiced this yoga method for 2 years, but purchased this book recently to remind me of the forms and reasons for each move. I am inspired again and reminded about why I practice this method. I am healthier and happier than I have ever been!
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I took a month or two of classes at a local center a few years back before COVID hit. They really were useful. This book covers a lot of what I learned in the classes and is nice to have so I can repeat the practice at home on my own.
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Geshe Michael Roach – The Sad Case of a Gifted Man – Tibetan Buddhism – Struggling With Diffi·Cult Issues
GESHE MICHAEL ROACH – THE SAD CASE OF A GIFTED MAN
Sorry, but I don’t want to add more on this topic. There has been said enough already. I just want to make you aware of two recent articles about Michael Roach, one in Rolling Stone and one by Scott Carney (in Playboy). You find more material and links at the end of the article by Scott Carney.Sex and Death on the Road to Nirvana – RollingStone
Death and Madness at Diamond Mountain – Scott Carney
When I read the Interview with Geshe Michael Roach & Christie McNally (PDF) in 2003 and especially the passage where Roach tries to defend himself, skillfully avoiding to answer the question what his teacher, Khen Rinpoche Geshe Lobsang Tharchin, says about his (strange) behavior, I realized that Michael Roach has created an own inner world where voices can only reach him if they suit his own views. Since there are still some people who think it might be worth to follow Mr. Roach or that he might be a genuine Buddhist teacher, I added the article by Scott Carney to my website. Food for Thought! I am grateful that Alexander Berzin warned me personally to be careful with Roach – though at that time, I was not pleased to hear it because I placed my spiritual hopes already in Michael Roach …
During a tantric teaching the teacher of Roach, Khen Rinpoche, was asked about Roach, and he clearly distanced himself from Roach. Sadly, so far I was not able to get the recording but it exists. That this explicitly alienation by Roach’s teacher exists was told to me by a person I trust who listened to these teachings by Khen Rinpoche.
Last and least, Robert Thurman about Roach in the RollingStone interview:
Robert Thurman, a Columbia University religion professor and a leading expert on Eastern religions, calls Roach’s version of Tibetan Buddhism “an American pop-religion knockoff.” …
The office of the Dalai Lama issued a rebuke, and Roach’s associates urged him to remove his robes to indicate that he was not celibate. When he refused, Robert Thurman, a former ordained monk, tried to reason with him. “I asked him to meet,” says Thurman, who is married and long ago resigned his robes. “He finally came with his consort to Columbia. I told him to go back to being a lay minister, to take off the robes. Bottom line is, he said he wouldn’t give up the robes. He said, ‘I have never consorted with a human female,’ and I said to Christie, ‘Are you human?’ And she didn’t say yes or no. She said, ‘He said it, I didn’t.'”
Thurman felt McNally was young and naive and being manipulated by Roach, but McNally felt empowered. According to her, the retreat had altered their dynamic. She had gone into it as Roach’s lesser, emerging as his equal. “The roles in the play now had changed from teacher and student to ‘partners,'” she says, and goes on to say that since Roach was interested in embracing his feminine side, “normal sexual relations between two married partners were absent from this relationship.”
Instead of waiting for new acolytes to come to them, Roach and McNally began holding classes at popular New York yoga studios like Jivamukti, whose clientele included Wall Street bankers, fashionistas like Donna Karan and celebrities such as Sting, Russell Simmons and Madonna. He had translated the Yoga Sutra from Sanskrit and spoke of how yoga could lead to enlightenment. “His teaching was the missing link in the writings on the Yoga Sutra,” says Morris. “Nobody had accomplished what was described in there, and here was somebody who had. I was moved. He was a good, holy, honest man then.”
UPDATEAn upcoming book by Scott Carney: A Death on Diamond Mountain: A True Story of Obsession, Madness, and the Path to Enlightenment – March 17, 2015
UPDATE SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER 2016Why I Joined—And Left—A Yoga Cult – Kristin Diversi (Alternet)
Jivamukti and Geshe Michael Roach: The Cross-Marketing Tangle of Magic Teachers by Matthew Remski (2016)
UPDATE FEBRUARY 2019The “Love Guru” I Wouldn’t Listen To – Tricycle
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Jacki on March 16, 2014 at 11:10 pm
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Roach is a boogie yogi!2
tenpel on March 17, 2014 at 12:08 am
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What is a boogie yogi?
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Anne Wilson on September 27, 2014 at 10:04 pm
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I first heard Geshe Michael Roach speak in Galway in 1999 and was very deeply moved by him considering him to be the holiest man I had ever been in the presence of. Next time I heard him was in 2011 and while I noticed some of the joy or shine had left him I remained deeply moved. He imparted to me the idea that everything around me comes from me and based on that I can surmise from events which I have happened that I need to take great care in how I behave within my own relationships and how I treat everyone around me.
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Sarah on February 16, 2015 at 4:47 am
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He sounds like nothing but a scammer and a fraud. How sad for people who follow him. Sometimes people are so desperate that they will latch on to any charismatic scammer to relieve the pain of life. They did that in Jonestown.
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bruce cohen on March 23, 2015 at 1:09 am
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Weak people are easily scammed and misled. I know him from the jewelry industry- always a weird dude.
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alexis b on May 30, 2015 at 6:28 pm
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is he a buddhist monk? i heard that he break a vow7
tenpel on May 31, 2015 at 8:57 am
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Difficult to judge. It depends upon if he did a Parajika or not:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/vin/sv/bhikkhu-pati.html#pr
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The Nameless on May 31, 2015 at 12:18 pm
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If the activities he engaged in included either oral or anal sex then he had committed a ‘Parajika’, an offence entailing immediate and automatic return to lay status. If he engaged solely in solitary or mutual masturbation, this would be classed as a ‘Sanghadisesa’, an offence which involves immediate suspension, and one which can only be purged by the consent of a committee of twenty ‘pure’ monks. The suspension for such an offence lasts for as long as such an offence has been concealed. Roach may have received the consent of such a committee during his period in India, if he were able to locate such a gathering. However, it is certain that he could not have made such a confession in the post India period because such a large number of Tibetan Sangha, the tradition into which he initially ordained and who have since denounced his actions, were not present to gather for such a purpose
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myriam on August 20, 2015 at 9:58 am
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Hi! I read the Diamond Cutter a year ago. In a week he is in my town and thought, how lucky I am, because he is not comming so oft in Europe and I made plans to go 3 days Seminar retreat … but a friend call me and asked to be carefull about, because can be a scamme, brain wash, etc.. It is someone who has been to his speaches? Please give some info about? it is worthy to go?10
tenpel on August 23, 2015 at 2:24 pm
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Hi Myriam, I attended a public talk with him and ChristyMcNally some years ago in Berlin. I am a Buddhist monk and was quite amazed to see and to hear how he twisted Buddhist teachings as means to fulfill mundane desires for money and to attract wonderful partners (“your dream partner”! as he had found in Christy – this he said himself). It felt like he is turning Buddhism into the wish fulfilling jewel that’s purpose is to fulfill samsaric desires. After the talk my lay friends where very excited. Chatting about ideas how to use what Roach said to fulfill their samsaric wishes. Their minds were full of graving and ideas formed how to fulfill those gravings. I didn’t say anything just relaxed and listened. When they finally turned to me with their excitement and urged me to say something I replied: “how did you feel before you came here and how are you feeling now? Isn’t your mind more agitated and filled with attachment than before? Do you think to increase desire is Buddhism?” This made them silent and settled the excitement.
Then someone else had the idea I should see and talk with Roach. I had no interest at all. It was clear for me that he twists Buddhist teachings – among others he claimed those in the tantric monastic (Gelug) colleges would have all sexual partners if they are “advanced” enough. Which is nonsense because Tsongkhapa is seen as the role model and he didn’t have any. When I got up from my seat a lady checked me quite inappropriately with a view “is he advanced enough?” I felt really ashamed/embarrassed with her checking gaze on me.
I concluded from all of this that Roach is misguiding people.
Now it happened that I accidentally really bumped into him (I was the only monk there when I remember correctly, and I refused to take a seat in the first row which the organisers offered. I insisted to sit in the back rows.) after his public talk. When he saw me he turned to me and he preached me things about the ego and it’s strange plays. What he said felt strange, bizarre and unconnected to the situation. Just using spiritual language for what ever reason but not appropriate to the situation.
I would neither recommend to go or not to go but if you go, observe yourself, be mindful, be aware of your feelings and thoughts and how they change, listen well and see and judge for yourself if these are Buddha’s teachings / is in line with Buddha’s teachings, or not.
For me it was worth to go because I base my knowledge or relate all what I heard and read to these experiences and that makes my judgments more grounded, I think. So, it was finally helpful to make up my own mind about Roach by attending a talk of him! HTH
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Gregg Geist on August 21, 2015 at 7:05 pm
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Marriage is power. In a world that has been sexist for so long, even Buddhism has suffered from it. As with Christianity, women were seen as a kind of accessory object, and target of desire, and not as possible cohorts. As a spiritual and economic liability, women were considered a distraction from pursuing something like a spiritual quest. In Catholicism, and apparently in Buddhism, this has translated to sex being a weakness and marriage being a liability. But this is not so. Marriage is power and a married yogi will have more of all of the kinds of strengths needed to advance a cause of bettering the world, just as a married priest does. This crisis happened in Catholicism centuries ago and the married priests call it a reformation. Does Buddhism need a reformation? Yes.12
Bristollad on August 24, 2015 at 7:00 am
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“marriage is power” – why?
“in a world that has been sexist for so long, even Buddhism has suffered from it” – yes, some buddhists are and have been sexist
“women were considered a distraction from pursuing something like a spiritual quest” – no, attachment is the cause of suffering for everyone
“a married yogi will have more of all of the kinds of strengths needed…just as a married priest does” – why?
“this crisis happened in Catholicism centuries ago and the married priests call it a reformation. Does Buddhism need a reformation? Yes” – this seems to ignore the four-fold assembly that the Buddha established – lay and ordained women, lay and ordained men;. practising the path has never been restricted to ordained renunciates in Buddhism.
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Worth Gurkin on October 24, 2015 at 2:45 am
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I was a student of Geshe Michael for several years. I completed the ACI course. I met with him privately many times and attended many of his teachings. Concurrently with my relationship with Geshe Michael I had another teacher, Geshe Tsulga, a Tibetan and a contemporary of the Dalai Lama. My main attraction to Geshe Michael was that I could speak to him in English, and we both understood the subtleties of the English language. Geshe Tsulga’s English and my Tibetan were equally poor. This Geshe Michael that I read about in these articles is so different from the one I knew. I knew someone who treated me with great tenderness, as if I were a fragile snowflake, beautiful and unique and apt to disappear at any moment. Ultimately I withdrew from his sphere of influence simply because I knew one thing for certain: Until I had a truly kind heart, until I had true Bodhicitta, the wish to become a fully enlightened Buddha purely for the sake of all sentient beings, any further effort was futile if not outright dangerous. Now I try on a daily basis to embrace that “boss in the office with the red angry face” that he talked about in his early lectures, as a projection of my own negative karma. It is difficult but I am making progress. Very small but very real steps. For this I am forever grateful to my teacher Geshe Michael.14
No name on October 26, 2015 at 11:42 pm
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Memories of things past do not negate or justify subsequent inappropriate behaviour
Hitler was a beautiful baby but that means nothing in light of his subsequent behaviour
Perhaps instead of clinging to sentiment it might be more useful to contemplate the lesson of impermanence.”well he never did me any harm” sounds remarkably lacking in empathy15
Gregg Geist on October 27, 2015 at 6:20 pm
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Well, since all of our conclusions ultimately rest on memories of things past (ours or other people’s that have been communicated to us) I guess we’re in pretty sorry shape. Maybe there wasn’t a Hitler (since all historical documentation of him was ultimately based on memories) or for that matter, the events at Isipatana, the Buddha, sages, all of it. Then again, more to the point, discounting people’s stories outright is definitely lacking in empathy.16
tenpel on October 27, 2015 at 9:25 pm
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I think you either misunderstood or distort what he said: “Memories of things past do not negate or justify subsequent inappropriate behaviour” … I understand this as the argument, when there was something good in the past you can remember, this is no reason to conclude that in the presence there is no problem coming from the same person whom you have a good memory of. This is a valid argument, isn’t it?
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tenpel on October 27, 2015 at 1:36 pm
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It is one of the most difficult things of students of misleading teachers to separate their good experiences from the abusive or misleading/manipulative behaviour of their teachers.
Teachers and experiences are not one-dimensional, qualities and faults + good and bad experiences + progress and degeneration can coexist. If you read Robert Jay Lifton’s “Destroying the World to save it” you can see that even after Shoko Asahara was definitely found guilty of crimes some of his students couldn’t make any sense of their good experiences and his negative and manipulative actions. Not being able to discriminate this correctly they refused to acknowledge the crimes, denied these and clung to their good experience as the only valid point of view regarding this misleading guru.
It is also interesting to read and to understand, how Asahara abused the Indo-Tibetan concept of “Guru Yoga” to manipulate his students. It might be enlightening for any Buddhist to read this book!
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tenpel on September 12, 2016 at 9:51 pm
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There is a new interesting article by Why I Joined—And Left—A Yoga Cult by Kristin Diversi. I added it to the Update section.
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Tom on March 8, 2017 at 8:21 pm
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I was at Diamond Mountain, I saw exactly how they acted, how the people worshipped them, and how they loved it, reveled in it. For anyone able to see the illusion, it was easy to see in these two “lamas.” They used enlightenment and emptiness to lure in followers/believers.
Conveniently, Roach always bitched out whenever confronted by someone who knew his true intentions.
After Ian died, I heard Christie was taken away to be de-brainwashed. Sad, but that’s karma for ya.20
tenpel on March 8, 2017 at 11:13 pm
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Thank you. I met Ian in Berlin and I also met Roach in Berlin.
As far as I have experienced it, Roach seems to have quickly figured out that I am a non-follower of him and very sceptical (I was the only monk at that occasion and refused to sit in the first row as been offered but retreated to the back rows). Though I didn’t want to meet him, we met and he told me about the dangers of the ego (I didn’t ask him to teach me about that subject). What I understood was, he is speaking about the dangers of MY ego, which doesn’t have much belief in his ego 😉 So, I think or felt, he basically wanted to undermine my faith in my own intuition or my own judgment which didn’t believe in his non-dharmic message.
However, it was interesting to see how many fell pray to him when he taught how to use the “understanding of emptiness” to fulfil one’s desire for money, a girl or dream partner and mundane success. I was quite alone in my scepticism and even long standing Buddhists were convinced or amazed of his message. I didn’t say anything. Just listened what people enthusiastically said about his talk. When they asked me after a while what I was thinking about his talk, I replied: ‘What are your mind states now? For me it feels like you are very excited about the promises of dream partners, money and success, your mind is excited. I think this is desire. If your desire increases, do you think this is the Dharma? For me it is not.’ Nobody gave a reply to that question. All were silent and some nodded with their heads …
Ian and his girlfriend at that time were at our center (a fully fledged cult) and they helped us also to translate a sutra – about the kindness of the parents. He was a nice chap. Very sad that he had to die so early!
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Benito Culebro on October 11, 2018 at 5:35 pm
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siddharta gautama he was not a virgin, even her life before was not. He broke with many paradigms that even saw women as an obstacle to achieving enlightenment and generally were not taught the sacred texts of India. Buddha came to break with all that and it is known that women participated in meditation and learned spirituality as well as men. Buddhists were asked to give a celibate vote to propagate their teachings, but only for those who had that purpose in that life. Little by little men were losing the deepest knowledge and began to create a discipline different from the essential one.
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Amy Gunn on February 27, 2019 at 8:49 pm
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Enjoy the message. Don’t listen to or consider any of the info about his lifestyle. His message is pure and complete and we can all take what we like and disregarded the rest. I have 4 of his books. They are great inspiration and reminder for my own life. What is sad is that there are those that want to discredit others. I personally don’t believe anything that is written or said about another. Free will people. His books are uplifting and enjoyable to listen to or read. They have changed my life. I appreciate all his efforts to make this info comprehensive.23
tenpel on February 28, 2019 at 7:03 pm
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I am happy that it is so helpful for you.
I don’t agree to ignore the rest. The views that led to GMR‘s actions are expressed more or less subtle in his writings too. A reader being uncritical will swallow them on the way and they might have a damaging impact. Just to give you an example. I listened to a public teaching by him with Christy on his side. Not only was it partially distorting what he told (misinformation) but he also triggered the attachment of people. I discussed after his talk with some of the enthusiasts. (Only after listening to them silently and when they asked me.) My short cut was: while listening to you, observing you I felt and still feel and see a lot of excitement, agitation, restlessness. Do you think what is now in your mind is the dharma or are it some hopes with respect to the fulfilments of mundane desires? (GMR spoke of how to get a lot of money, be successful in business, finding a dream partner, sexual activity for the “mature” or “advanced” … IMO he just triggered people’s attachments and hopes. For me this is not the dharma.)
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Vier buddhistische Prinzipien des Erfolgs im Business - barbarabryce.com on May 26, 2019 at 10:07 am
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[…] daraus machen, darf jeder für sich selbst entscheiden. Geshe Michael Roach ist mittlerweile auch umstritten, da er nicht mehr zölibatär lebt und der neue Mann seiner Exfrau auf mysteriöse Weise während […]
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Gotti on September 15, 2019 at 7:05 pm
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In a philosophical seminar in university of Kassel (where I was affiliated) titled “Ethik in der Zeit der Globalisierung – buddhistische Ethik für die Wirtschaft?” (Prof. Dr. M.Pfannkuche, Univ. Kassel, WS09) the book “die weisheit des Diamanten” by M. Roach has been proposed as literature. They recommended it with a recension of the newspaper “Rheinpfalz”, which seemingly has been taken from “libri.de” (I can’t reconstruct that today – 10 years later) but there is also a link to amazon where the same recommendation is used. See https://www.amazon.de/Die-Weisheit-Diamanten-Buddhistische-beruflichen/dp/342334198X and open “Kundenrezensionen”. It seems unbelievable…26
tenpel on September 15, 2019 at 11:14 pm
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I think the book has some value besides the controversies. It teaches for instance how important honesty and fairness is because customers or clients will remember if they were treated fairly and correctly. I wouldn’t recommend it nowadays but I think it has benefits.
Musing for Amusement: The Dahn Yoga Cult
SATURDAY, MARCH 27, 2010
The Dahn Yoga Cult
Yesterday, I read an article in Rolling Stone on the Dahn Yoga Cult. I had never heard of them before, but I was somehow sucked into the article. Whenever the word "cult" follows a phrase, I am always fascinated to see what it is that mass people follow. What is it that sucks people into these cults? What do they have to do? What do they sacrifice? What principles do they follow with all of their hearts, even if they might have a twinge of doubt? How do they recruit followers? How far do they go for these leaders? And what is the leader seeking out of this?
The article, "The Yoga Cult" by Sabrina Rubin Erdely, focuses on a young couple who were former cult members. They were recruited in college (like many of this cult are) and were persuaded to continue attending seminars and sessions, dumping thousands and thousands of dollars into this organization to keep themselves connected. The couple, Amy and Ricardo, were sucked in for years and have recently come out of it. They have exposed many of the practices of the cult.
To give a little background on Dahn Yoga, only some refer to it as a cult. It is seen as a cult because of the extensive following and the intense practices of the members. Lawsuits have come out against Dahn Yoga and its leader, Ilchi Lee, for various reasons including sexual charges and deaths associated with intense workouts (similar to hazing). It was founded by Lee in 1985 when he climbed to the top of a mountain and realized that his calling was to lead this Yoga movement. He left his family and started this group. Now, he accumulates millions of dollars, has private jets, multiple properties, and darts lawsuits.
Basic information on Dahn Yoga: "In Korean, dahn means 'primal, vital energy,' and hak means 'study of a particular theory or philosophy.' Dahn teachings are said to place equal emphasis on physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being. News sources have described its exercises as 'a blend of yoga, tai chi, and martial arts exercises.'"
Essentially, members go through extreme workouts to aim for spritual perfection. Members are told that, together, they will come together to achieve world peace. Sounds like a lofty goal, eh?
Members keep striving to reach higher levels of their spiritual health. Amy, the focus of the article, was even promoted to become a Dahn instructor where she had to go through rigorous training. These trainings had to be lightened because one victim was killed while carrying too heavy a bag of rocks up a mountain. Members like Amy recruit young twenty-somethings to join. They are on college campuses, they are physcially fit, and they are ready to take out loans to give to Dahn. Some members drop out of college in order to meet the demands (physically, spritually, and financially) to accomodate the needs of Dahn.
Ricardo, one of the former members, said it was difficult to stop being a part of Dahn because they are brainwashed into thinking that if they leave Dahn, their spritual path will be destroyed. Essentially, they will be spiritually lost. And once members leave, they are harassed with phone calls over and over again by leaders trying to get them to come back. Intense. Both Ricardo and Amy went deep into debt paying for all of these sessions and seminars. I can't believe that they suck THIS much money out of these people to stay hooked.
Here are some of the practices retold by Amy that the members were asked to perform:
-Lack of sleep during retreats
-They would have to plunge their heads into the water until they couldn't breathe. When they gasp to the surface, they chant a devotional song to their leader, weeping to prove their sincerity to the cause. Repeat many times.
-In pitch-black darkness, members scream and dance hard for hours. Then they collapse into a "sobbing heap."
-At a retreat, members punch themselves in the stomach while yelling things like "I hate myself!"
-They engage in head-shaking meditation that they call "wave vibration." Members have to purchase "palm-size vibrating brains" which cost $80, and after class they discuss feelings in a sharing circle.
-Hours of loud, fast exercise, trust-building games, and personal confessions.
-To enter, they had to write their most personal account in writing and share it with many, many people. If it wasn't personal enough, that did not show their devotion so they could not participate.
-At retreats, they were taught that their brains were clogged with meaningless information and they would reprogram them together.
-One exercise: Pretend you're looking at your dead body. What do you want to say to your dead body? How did you live your life?
-Candidates for membership must show their devotion to Dahn. This entails a seven-mile hike with up to 40 pounds of rocks on your back.
-Members are required to pull in a certain amount of money into the mission per month, sometimes climbing as high as $20,000.
-They have to wake early in the morning (4AM) to meditate.
-Some have to drink toilet water, lick each other's feet, and fall backwards into a pool screaming their love for Lee to prove themselves to the Dahn.
-At one session, a wet washcloth was said to be their soul, and people fought and scratched to get ahold of their washcloth.
Now, the above practices were communicated by Amy, the subject in the article. Perhaps these are not ALL standard practices, but these are some witnessed by a former member.
Facts
-127 fitness centers
-The holiest seminar costs $100,000
-Americans make up 10,000 of the 500,000 members
-Last year, Dahn Yoga pulled in $30 million in the US
-$30 million is only a fraction of what they collected in the nine other countries they are set up in
-They consider themselves a cutting-edge science called "brain education" with "the power to sharpen memory, prevent cancer, and give practitioners extrasensory powers."
-15 American cities have declared Ilchi Lee days.
-PowerBrain Operation is a Dahn-run organization that teaches "brain wave vibration" workshops in 44 different public schools, most in New York City.
-Many members believe he is god, while Lee compares himself to Buddha.
I am merely presenting information. I expect that some people will not like the infomration I present here. I am merely publishing information that I have learned from a magazine. Perhaps there are some small things that are not correct, and that lies in my misinterpretation of the facts. This is what I have read. This is what I think.
What do you think of Dahn Yoga?
POSTED BY JAMI AT 7:22 AM
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Anonymous said...
Too dangerous!!!MARCH 27, 2010 AT 8:49 AM
Anonymous said...
Dahn Yoga headquarters, as well as current instructors and members, put their side of this story on
dahnyogavoice dot com
if you are interested in reading it.
Thanks.MARCH 27, 2010 AT 3:31 PM
Phil Lawston said...
Hello Jami,
As a member who has been practicing Dahn Yoga for years, I do not agree with the Rolling Stone article. Thanks to the practice, I am able to sleep and eat well. If you want, come visit www.brainpeace.com, where a lot of members are sharing their testimonials.MARCH 27, 2010 AT 9:45 PM
Anonymous said...
definitely a cult and dahnyogavoice site is just propaganda. They moderate all negative comments from that site. Talk about bias. So while we are at it, I will throw a couple sites as well, nodahncult.com and selectsmart/ilchilee.htmlMARCH 27, 2010 AT 10:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Please go to brainworld.com and view the videos under the "feed your brain" section. Then make your own decision.MARCH 27, 2010 AT 10:44 PM
Anonymous said...
Have you read Eckhart Tolle's New Earth? That is exactly what Dahn yoga is but unlike his book you actually have a guide. I've never been coerced to provide money, or done anything physical that I could not or that was dangerous. As for being brainwashed -- well, maybe it's because I'm 57 and don't believe anyone controls my brain but me. I must say that I am calmer, happier, more in control of my life and growing into the person I want to become.AUGUST 9, 2010 AT 4:17 PM
Anonymous said...
All my life I searched for answers.. is McWorld all there is? is this it what we learn in schools? are we born on Earth to function like robots ...there must be more to life then this...Dahn Yoga Practice is the most holistic system of excercises which I have been doing for past ten years and which have helped me connect with my own soul, grow and meet all it's needs.. My soul is soooo happy to have found a way to light up it's divinity in the cold, often cruel and shallow world which corporatism, gmo's, baby formulas, 80 hours works weeks have created... If you have the right mind, if you are searching to experience the divine in all life, the "Holy Spirit" in your own self.. then Dahn Yoga is among other Yogas one of the most whole systems creted, it is one of best way's, practices, even though there are many..OCTOBER 29, 2010 AT 2:50 PM
Anonymous said...
I love Dahn Yoga, I detest the cruelty of corporatism and the state of educational systems which it has created.. Dahn Yoga is a simple easy system of excercises, breathing, concentration and movements through which people return back to their "senses!" Become loving, caring, feeling, sharing, smiling, healthy individuals part of healthy community willing to build, change, assist, create... Dahn Yoga is a tool which a human being can use in anyway they please to improve their lives..OCTOBER 29, 2010 AT 2:56 PM
Anonymous said...
What is the definition of a cult? Is "coffee" "nicotine" "alchoholism" "workaholism" "tv violence" "media brainwashing, polluting, dumbing down," "shoppaholism," infant abandnment - no pregnancy leave..a cult? Through a lifetime of addictions fortunes are spent and lives are ruined... Is religion, Catholicism, Muslimism, Judaism....etc., aren't they cults? Where is the human brain, the body, the temple of the soul, health in all of these....? Is something that brings your attention to your own body, mind and soul, that which empowers you be worse... than that which takes you power away..OCTOBER 29, 2010 AT 3:06 PM
Anonymous said...
I was involved with Dahn Yoga two years ago and intially was very helpful. They seduced me with the promise of healing and spiritual development. I became " Joe Healer Nim". I spent much too much money on healings and trainings at the local center and in Sedona Arizona until I noticed that they were more interested in me bring in members and doing more training (felt like brainwashing)than my continued personal development. When leaving for a break I wanted the friendships to continue, but since I was going away I specificly told my friendship was not welcomed in the communtity unless I continued training. I am still love those center leaders whom I was involved,but feel betrayed and used.
I believe that the people who work for Dahn have good intentions and really do believe that they are helping the world. But despite that fact, the people who operate the Dahn centers have been completely brainwashed.
While I have much more to say about my experience with Dahn Yoga, my message remains the same: Dahn Yoga is a front for a destructive cult.DECEMBER 27, 2010 AT 8:03 AM
Anonymous said...
Dear Jami-- What an interesting article and comments. Well, I've been practicing Dahn Yoga for several years now and I would say I'm becoming much happier with what I choose in life (every sec of it), Not only I'm getting more toned-stronger physiclly/mentally/spiritually as I combine everything I learn at Dahn Yoga with my Indonesian culture but also the fact that I create this love on the way I see the world now and how should I expand my capability to share my knowledge with others.
I believe I've become more kind in heart than how I was :) to my self, to people I love and even to any strangers :)) My children are happy having a more patient & yes..a more beautiful mother, my spouse is so proud of a healthier me, my father is in so much joy practicing together with me, and hmm...I've got more friends indeed.
About those commitment Dahn asked- Yes! It takes plenty of commitment to get the result. Once you are in, you want to maintain in a good consistency. You give yourself no space to be lazy to keep doing the practice.
About the flush of money - Honey nothing's free especially if you feel it's worth it. I've spent about 10.000 my self so far and I made all those decision my self; not those masters.
Did they force me to do this workshop here and there? Yes! but hey! you are the one who make those final decision :) again...not those masters. You are the master, right? Not anybody else.
I often believe that those who are weak are those who feels that Dahn had manipulated to spend those money :) You make your own decision. You spent it and I just wish you have not regreted it then :) It happened anyway...it's passed. Don't blame anyone, ya?
Smile & Be happy.
Healthy body, happy heart, power brain :)))APRIL 7, 2011 AT 4:05 PM
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I don't care about cult, but yoga it's extremely good for the body, for relax, for think about, I guess that if everyone in the world practice yoga, the world would be a better place.MAY 6, 2011 AT 8:23 AM
Anonymous said...
Yes it is a cult. I participated in one of the "workshops" along with some classes and eventually called the police. Its brainwashing and they take money. Just like all the articles say.MAY 6, 2011 AT 11:07 AM
Anonymous said...
I picked up a Dahn Yoga pamphlet at my hematologist's office recently and was intrigued by the information inside. I wanted to do a little research before I decided to call the local center. I love yoga and the relaxing/renewing effect it has on the body.... but.... if anyone thinks that they should pay money to find happiness and peace of mind, they are a fool and a perfect target for scammers. You can find Dahn Yoga technique information online and incorporate it into your own personal routine. I will be avoiding the center and saving my money, thank you very much!JUNE 28, 2011 AT 10:16 AM
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Anonymous said...
This type of yoga is beneficial for lots of illness' helpful at times just watch your pocketbooks don't gave to much information about your personal life or your finances they will pray on your emotions be alert just take the class and go homeJUNE 28, 2012 AT 10:38 PM
Anonymous said...
I have a good friend who has been going to Dahn Yoga for years. She is always paying large sums of money to take their training classes, and yet always being told she's inadequate in some way. I think she's spent well over $100,000 and they're always pressuring her for more. She thinks she's gotten some positive things from it, but the negatives are starting to outweigh the good things. She's also a very devout Christian and the masters are always trying to get her to chose the yoga and Ilchi Lee over her religion. I wish she'd quit, but she's still spellbound by them and the Yoga.AUGUST 2, 2012 AT 10:19 PM
Anonymous said...
My best friend started going to one of the dahn yoga centers last year. She's been paying lots of money to the center ever since. They have workshops and retreats they pressure the members to go to which range from hundreds to thousands of dollars. She's been trying to recruit me too. I paid for several months worth of sessions, each time I went, they tried to sell me expensive workshops. I hated it. They also tell members to do weird internet clean up practices every night. Now my friend is going to quit her job and travel overseas to serve the dahn yoga center. I feel like she'd been brain washed and that I have lost her forever. I am so sad and I don't know what I can do to get her back from the cult.OCTOBER 14, 2012 AT 11:38 PM
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Anonymous said...
This is a well-written article. I agree, Dahn Yoga is a dangerous group for those who wish to live a healthy life in their communities. Once you get pulled in, it's not easy getting out because of the pressure and co-dependency on the group and leader at that point. It's similar to a very unhealthy poor boundaried relationship or marriage even. To those who have loved ones getting involved, there are support people to help with this if you do some research. I also believe that intelligent creative people won't stay too long. It's too constricting on the human spirit. I know from experience.MARCH 8, 2013 AT 5:47 AM
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Tia said...
I am currently in the process of shopping my recently completed "cult memoir" about my seven year involvement with Dahn Yoga which included three years of complete immersion as a master's assistant ( a "Myungsa"). this book is the first in a serioes about my own spiritual quest. My time with the Dahn energy masters included some very dark stuff that at some points was quite dangerous to my health.
On the other hand, I believe the practices and principles in essence are magnificent for improving health and well being and I still use and teach the methods today. I've been "out" of the cult for seven years now, and recovery was ... interesting... and difficult.I'm searching the web for other folks' stories and experiences that I might include in my book proposal to publishers.
What do I think? I met and lived and worked with some magnificent energy masters and and some (for lack of a better word) evil and twisted ones. I'd say - as I have read in other people's stories on the web - if you want to practice Dahn Yoga do it and remember never to say yes to anything. Don't fall into the trap of buying more and more expensive workshops and memberships. All the stuff about coercion is true. But paradoxically, the practice itself in its pure form is transformational. I'd love to talk with others who have left the organization after being deeply involved.
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Tia said...
And you can read some of my story on my site at
enlightenwithtiarobinson.comJULY 12, 2013 AT 2:19 PM
RestingPond said...
I am glad in 2015 Ilchi's organization finally removed "dahn" and "yoga" from it's branding, because it is neither dahn nor yoga.
It is not dahn, because it has no root in traditional Korean dahn. The only exposure to dahn Ilchi ever had was brief couple of weeks studying Guk Sun Do, which IS based on traditional Korean dahn study. Ilchi's training does not have any root or lineage to speak of to call it based on 5K year old Korean tradition. It's a concoction of new age junk continuously changing because last one didn't work.
It is not a yoga for the same reason.
The core of Ilchi's brain wave vibration is shaking head vigorously which is potentially dangerous practice that can lead to axonal shearing. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffuse_axonal_injury ).
Just by this fact alone, Ilchi is one of the worst cult leader and enemy to humanity. I can add his lies on his credentials, etc, but I guess it's an old new by now. Everyone with a half brain left the organization and shrinking rapidly.MAY 5, 2015 AT 11:26 AM
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I would be really interested to hear from anyone in the UK who has experience of this outfit.
I have lost my partner to them, and he is pushing away his family too. The changes in personality all point to
Cult practices.JULY 16, 2016 AT 1:18 AM
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