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Author of 'Infinite Potential' and 'In Search of Divine Reality' talks about 'What Quantum Physics reveals about how we should live our lives.' Retired Professor of chemistry he spent a large part of his life in a laboratory looking at quantum-chemical computations and electron diffraction studies of molecular structures. He says, "You need to first understand the order of the universe and your place in it - you can't find happiness in your personal life if you are not living in harmony with the universe. The constituents of real things are found not to be real - these findings show that the quantum phenomena make it possible to establish a new covenant between the human mind and the mind-like background of the universe - one that provides a home again to the homeless and meaning to seemingly pointless life. The universe must be assumed to have a moral as well as a physical order, and facts and values derive again from a single source."

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A hopeful and controversial view of the universe and ourselves based on the principles of quantum physics, offering a way of making our lives and the world better, with a foreword by Deepak Chopra

In Infinite Potential, physical chemist Lothar Schäfer presents a stunning view of the universe as interconnected, nonmaterial, composed of a field of infinite potential, and conscious. With his own research as well as that of some of the most distinguished scientists of our time, Schäfer moves us from a reality of Darwinian competition to cooperation, a meaningless universe to a meaningful one, and a disconnected, isolated existence to an interconnected one. In so doing, he shows us that our potential is infinite and calls us to live in accordance with the order of the universe, creating a society based on the cosmic principle of connection, emphasizing cooperation and community.
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4.0 out of 5 stars Great book and a life changing philosophyReviewed in the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 on 3 February 2020
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This book certainly serves as your end to end explanation of how the world works, and how it all ties together, particularly if you're a curious inquisitive minded individual who's keen on not leaving any stone uncovered on the backend workings of the universe and how quantum physics affects our lives. To adapt this paradigm is really the first step into becoming a new type of human species.

However I was a bit disappointed that Lothar didn't provide more practical methods on how to make the concepts outlined in the book really work for us, from the title I was hoping this book to be more action focused rather than theory and leaving things in the maybe zone.
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Clearly written, with straightforward logic the book is a milestone in our endeavour to transcend the metaphysics of materialism. By explaining his work with 'quantum chemistry' Lothar Schäfer makes it clear beyond any doubt that there is consciuosness even in the smallest particles - atoms and molecules. A great book!

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A good explanation of wave theory but I felt it fell short of the mark as regards direction. I thought that It could have done more to involve the Higgs fields potential in regard to wave and particle relationship and the ability to jump from non mass to mass. From thought to materiality, in effect Creation. The book is well written and the author has managed to keep it at a level that is understandable to the average reader.

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Infinite Potential: What Quantum Physics Reveals About How We Should Live

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A hopeful and controversial view of the universe and ourselves based on the principles of quantum physics, offering a way of making our lives and the world better, with a foreword by Deepak Chopra

In Infinite Potential, physical chemist Lothar Schäfer presents a stunning view of the universe as interconnected, nonmaterial, composed of a field of infinite potential, and conscious. With his own research as well as that of some of the most distinguished scientists of our time, Schäfer moves us from a reality of Darwinian competition to cooperation, a meaningless universe to a meaningful one, and a disconnected, isolated existence to an interconnected one. In so doing, he shows us that our potential is infinite and calls us to live in accordance with the order of the universe, creating a society based on the cosmic principle of connection, emphasizing cooperation and community.

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Not so informative; lacks coherence. The central idea is clear that quantum physics' "Schrodinger's" wave function is just a mathematical expression that is void of energy or space (transempirical). But Shafer doesn't in any way explain what other alternative ideas might there be to interpret this phenomenon. And he doesn't also explain why that realm of the "wave function" can resemble the thoughts in our minds, except for the fact that they exist as potentiality. Although I think that thoughts are not potential states since they at least have electrical activity associated with them in the brain even though they're not yet expressed in the outer world as deeds. Many questions pop into mind while reading this book and no answers can be found between the pages.
The book could have been more useful if more theories were introduced or more details were taken into consideration in explaining the realm of potentiality or quantum jumps.
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I really enjoyed Lothar's discussion of our potential and how it relates to quantum physics. I also found interesting his thoughts on how the paradigm of Darwinism has impacted our modern society. I am not sure I fully agree with all that he says in that regard, but I do agree that it has had a significant influence on how society thinks about the issues it faces.
While this book is not a faith based book, I also found this book provides some interesting insights into quantum physics application to our spiritual lives and to God. As a member of the Mormon faith I found many of the ideas and concepts presented in this book align with my understanding of God and the universe. It is always gratifying to find elements of your beliefs in unexpected and surprising domains.
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I read a lot of books about physics, even though I'm not a physicist or any kind of scientist. I believe such books open the mind, and this one shows that the mind, like quantum physics (actually part of quantum physics), can be open to anything possible. In a nutshell, that's what Schafer says: anything possible will happen, and the universe is programmed to make it happen right. So don't fear or fret, just explore the potentialities. They are bound to ultimately be good.
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A very good read :) A big, fat fascinating and scientifically based finger pointing at the same moon all the so-called spiritual ones have been pointing at for thousands of years. Or why science is playing catch-up... and having a hard time admitting it despite clear numbers and logic. There may not be a lot to 'know' but there's sure a lot to suspect, with giant implications for all of us.

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Not so informative and useful as I expected. I believe there are some other books out there about the connection of quantum physics and human mind that are more fun and useful.

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The author expertly explains the quantum world for the lay person and illustrates how quantum science and spirituality are two parallel and consistent ways of understanding the nature of reality. I would recommend this book to anyone who wants to better understand these seemingly incomprehensible and intriguing topics. The author’s ideas are an important contribution to help us fulfill our potential and live in accordance with the order of this mysterious and meaningful universe.
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Great book! A bit difficult to read at times for non-scientists, but still got a lot out of the information.

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"...the quantum phenomena have taught me that atheism is a mistake because it isn’t in agreement with the nature of the world."

"Because of their recent discovery the messages of the new physics have never really been accepted in the public domain."

"Darwin’s biology is, like Newton’s physics, a surface science. It describes the visible phenomena on the surface of reality quite well, but it isn’t able to get to the roots of things."

It is quotes like these that make Schafer's book worth reading. They are supported by the evidence.
When I read Schafer's first book "In Search of Divine Reality," I was looking for philosophical discussions based on quantum physics. He provides plenty of that so I rated the book highly. From those valid discussions he develops ideas of monism, cosmic consciousness, infinite mind and a holistic "One." All is One and One is all. Its a combination of ancient pagan and modern new age beliefs.

If a cosmic consciousness created the universe, then why isn't it also a personal being? Can it be less than, or merely equal to its creation? Does it need us to be able to think?

The book is thought provoking, but you could probably find it on one of Oprah's bookshelves.


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now I'm an open minded lady, i'll read just about anything. And I picked this up on a whim. Chopra's intro was especially seductive. And Schafer manages to explain some concepts about the movements of electrons that really worked for me, i finally understood a part of high school chemistry that has always eluded me. But towards the end of the book he hammers on about what he refers to as 'Darwinism' and 'Darwinists' as being the worst of the lot in humanity, and all i could picture in my mind was sweet Charles Darwin with his white beard studying worms at the end of his life. I've read so many bios of Darwin, and i suspect that there never was a kinder gentler more interesting man. I could understand what Schafer meant, but I wish he had found a different term. He did make some caveats several times that what HE believes Darwin's 'survival of the fittest' theories have evolved into was not what Darwin intended, and I wish he had gone one step further and taken Darwin right out of the argument. So, interesting, but ended up leaving me dissatisfied by heavy handedness towards the end.
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I had a biology professor in college who said that someday science and religion would agree because both in their honest forms were in pursuit of truth.
Lothar Schafer shows how the Darwinian view of man leads human behaviour to atheism, greed and many of the ills people complain about. He talks of how quantum physics shows the world to be connected and promotes cooperation over competition. He states that the ingrained philosophy of man as a disconnected animal, fighting for survival is in direct contrast to the quantum world. If one believes in the interconnectivity of the quantum world then one looks for the power of the universe and tries to align with it. He does not claim any organized religion but it's amazing how many of the world religions talk about bringing one's actions and will into alignment with the divine.

How does your life change if you stop thinking of yourself as a single organism awash in a sea of detritus and think of yourself as a small part of a greater whole which has a purpose of improving?
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Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm: Peat, F David: 9780201328202: Amazon.com: Books

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"Dismissed by establishment scientists as a maverick or mystical rebel, American physicist David Bohm (1917-1992) sought a holistic physics, a unified vision of matter and mind, brain and consciousness. His search for an alternative quantum theory led him to formulate a cosmology depicting a universe of infinite levels, each qualitatively different yet part of an interconnected whole. In this brilliant intellectual biography, science writer Peat, Bohm's longtime friend and colleague, portrays an intensely cerebral man gripped by periods of crippling depression, who had an acute need of a guru or father figure, whether mentor J. Robert Oppenheimer or Indian philosopher/ teacher Jiddu Krishnamurti, and who ultimately felt betrayed by each of them."--Publisher description

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Childhood : from fragmentation to flow -- From Penn State to Caltech -- A vision of light -- From Niels Bohr to Karl Marx -- Princeton -- Un-American activities -- Hidden variables -- Brazil : into exile -- Causality and chance -- Israel : the world falls apart -- Bristol : encounters with famous men -- Birkbeck : thought and what may lie beyond -- Language and perception -- The implicate order -- Dialogue and disorder -- The edge of something unknown








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Infinite Potential is the first biography of David Bohm—brilliant physicist, explorer of consciousness, student of Oppenheimer, friend to Einstein, and enemy of the House Committee on Un-American Activities. Although he battled bouts of crippling depression, Bohm proved to be one of the twentieth century's most original thinkers, influencing the fields of physics, philosophy, psychology, language, and education. In this compelling narrative, David Peat explains Bohm's life and landmark scientific work, including his famous ”hidden variables” causal interpretation of quantum mechanics, which created a storm of controversy, yet may well be the only theory that describes the true nature of reality.
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F. David Peat, renowned author of many general books on science—including, with David Bohm, Science, Order & Creativity—was a friend and colleague of David Bohm for more than twenty years.


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Welcome to my Amazon page. One of the most enjoyable tasks of my life has been writing books. Or rather lying in bed dreaming about what I want to write tomorrow then jumping out of bed in the morning and rushing to my computer to get it all down before I forget!

My latest book is "Synchronicity: The Marriage of Matter and Psyche". This is an original exploration and not a revision of my earlier "Synchronicity: The Bridge between Matter and Mind". In my new book I explore Carl Jung’s notion of the life-transforming nature of synchronicities. Synchronicities open the floodgates of the deeper levels of consciousness and matter, which, for a creative instant, sweep over the mind and heal the division between the internal and external. Since writing that first book a great deal more has come to light, in particular about the role the theoretical physicist Wolfgang Pauli had in encouraging Carl Jung’s investigation of the phenomenon of “meaningful coincidence.” Much of this collaboration between the physicist and the depth psychologist is revealed in the fascinating correspondence between Jung and Pauli that has recently been published. My new book explores these discoveries and ends with a speculative and provocative chapter on the possible source of true synchronicities.

I was born and grew up in Liverpool. My father was an electrician and when his apprentice announced that he wanted to quit to go to Germany with his band my father told him, "George Harrison, one day you'll come crawling on your hands and knees to get your job back." I was also a little annoyed when my closest friend, Dot, told me she was seeing a really fascinating student at art college—John Lennon! It was that era!

After university I moved to Canada to carry out research in theoretical physics at the National Research Council of Canada. Then, while on a sabbatical with Roger Penrose, I met the physicist David Bohm and began a friendship that lasted until his death. Indeed, we were working together on a second book when he died.

I had also been involved in documentaries for the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) and was responsible for a twenty one-hour series on the development of physics in the 20th century. After leaving the NRC I turned to writing both books and plays for radio and the stage. I also made contact with Native American groups which ended up as a circle of Native Elders and Western Scientists sponsored by the Fetzer Institute. Some these experiences found themselves in Blackfoot Physics.

From Ottawa we moved briefly, and totally by chance, to the medieval hilltop village of Pari in Tuscany, and from there moved to London so I could do research for and write Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm. In London I made contact with the artists Anish Kapoor and Antony Gormley and ended up organizing a weekend where artists and scientists could meet and talk informally.

From London I moved back to Pari and in 2000 opened the Pari Center for New Learning in order to run courses and conferences and have writers and artists come to visit for a month or so. Pari has also been an ideal place in which to reflect and write and to meet new people. It has been a time when I developed my idea of Gentle Action which can be found at www.gentleaction.org and well as in my book "Gentle Action: Bringing creative change to a turbulent world".

A recent book of mine is "A Flickering Reality: Cinema and the Nature of Reality". This shows how everything from Freud and Jung, quantum theory and chaos theory, the neurosciences and postmodernism have changed the way we look at ourselves and the world, and the most direct way to experience this is via films. I also have a blog on this topic at http://aflickeringreality.blogspot.com. And what a pleasure it was to see it in print. It was such a joy to write "A Flickering Reality" because it combined my interests in the changing nature of reality along with the chance to revisit so many films I had enjoyed in the past along with some very new ones.

And if you'd like to learn more then why not buy my biography, "Pathways of Chance" or look at my websites www.fdavidpeat.com or www.paricenter.com.


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Frances Haas

5.0 out of 5 stars "A stellar autobiographyReviewed in the United States on October 13, 2019
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I've always been curious about physics and the people who practice it. David Bohm was a key player within the physics community. His mother was or became insane but was able to be around for her two sons, in an unproductive way. There were no anti-depressants and her condition worsened. Bohm was more deeply effected by his mother than he allowed himself to know. He knew many other physicists, such as Oppenheimer. Partly due to his relationship with him, but also the Communist scare after W.W.II, the U.S. Government would not allow Bohm to work in the U.S., so "Bohm went to South America. If you like to read about the theories behind psychics, this is a book for you. It also goes into Bohm's long, and eventually troubled, relationship with Krishamurti, an Indian sage. Their talks can be seen on UTube. I recommend reading this book about a brilliant, flawed, man. and viewing those talks;, which delve into the nature of mysticism.

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5.0 out of 5 stars get this book!Reviewed in the United States on May 16, 2015
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I love this book! Starting on page 169 we read about hidden variables. Example, two particles are separated but they don't interact in the classical physics way. There are hidden variables. The same thing happens when I use my computer flight simulator! I see two planes moving on the taxiway. One of them is stopping by an intersection, while the other one keeps on going thru the intersection. The computer is controlling the aircrafts--hidden variables? There is much debate, and none of it is easy to understand. Quantum mechanics is filled with confusion because the old way physics is predictable, but quantum is like rolling the dice. The facts indicate that our universe may be computer controlled. Bohm, Bell, and the others had no knowledge of our current computers and the advanced video cards. There is no doubt that we will be capable of building computers that can simulate a universe in the distant future.

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5.0 out of 5 stars fine biography of a great man.Reviewed in the United States on November 1, 2016
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Bohm was not just a great physicist, whose Bohmian Mechanics provides the best alternative to the Copenhagen Interpretation of quantum mechanics. He had a remarkable life in many ways. As a graduate student of Oppenheimer at Berkeley, he worked on the Manhattan Project, but was denied security clearance because of his Marxist views, and was forbidden to read his own papers or to write his Ph. D. thesis. Later he was hounded out of the country by the HUAC. He went from a Marxist materialist to a spiritual outlook which led him to collaborate with Krishnamurti. Peat was a longtime friend and collaborator, and the biography is a great and informative read.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Great bookReviewed in the United States on September 10, 2021
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Great work, a true genius

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Walter E. Parker

5.0 out of 5 stars A must read for everyone interested in scientific metaphysicsReviewed in the United States on March 21, 2021
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An objective, thorough outline of the life and thought of one of our greatest thinkers. Very accessible for average but interested minds like mine.

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Michael Anthony Caputo

5.0 out of 5 stars The Genius of BohmReviewed in the United States on October 23, 2018
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Excellent biography -- well written & considers all vital aspects of the life of this great man. Although the author tries to emphasize Bohm's spiritual awareness he falls short in presenting this aspect of Bohm's visionary personality. Highly recommended.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Don't miss this important work about one of the greatest minds ever.Reviewed in the United States on November 5, 2016
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A wonderful insight to a remarkable mind. I think Bohms' dialogues with Krishnamurti exposed mankind's dilemma while perhaps showing the only plausible way out. Ultimate truth for Bohm is Love has no divisions and knowledge although important can not attain the essence.

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4.0 out of 5 stars Hometown boy Makes goodReviewed in the United States on September 20, 2015
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I bought this as a gift for my brother and read a bit of it myself too since David Bohm grew up in our hometown and went to our high school

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Barry Winbolt
4.0 out of 5 stars A rounded picture of a complex manReviewed in the United Kingdom on February 21, 2014
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This is a thoroughly researched and detailed account of a life which by any account was as troubled as it was driven by a passion for learning and insight. Despite his brilliance, David Bohm was as flawed as any of us. Problems seemed to arise for him because the very drive and obstinacy which allowed him to develop such brilliant insights in his work, proved a hindrance when applied to the business of life and relationships.
I came to the book because of my interest in dialogue. I knew from his book on the topic that Bohm developed an approach to dialogue in later life, I now know much more about how his ideas developed and were applied. Written by someone who understood and admired Bohm's work, the technical aspects of physics though well explained were still a little obscure for me. I still couldn't put the book down and it brought the man and his work to life for me.

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Fascinating story of a remarkable man who is by all standards of the same stature as your Newtons and Einsteins. However, due to his holistic approach, his radical new approaches to physics, his communist sympathies and his interests in spirituality, he never got any prestigious award and hence most people have never heard of him. Which is a shame, because, he is one of the only scientists to come up with an ontological explanation of quantum physics, and a very common-sense theory of theories.
This biography is a bit messy at times, but it seems to give a good overview of who Bohm really was and of the astounding theories he envisioned and/or helped to develop. It also manages to put Krishnamurti and his teachings into perspective.
A tragic life, but his important legacy remains.
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Beautifully written biography about one of the most extraordinary scientists, and above all, human beings of 20th century!
The man who dared being different and questioned establishment and authorities, both within scientific community and political establishment.
The man whose contribution to physics and to understanding of human consciousness will very likely be fully understood and recognized only in future.
Great work by D. Peat in portraying such a complex and maverick personality that Bohm had been throughout his life and career.

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I really enjoyed this comprehensive biography of quantum physicist David Bohm. The author communicates Bohm’s compelling and imaginative theories into language a layperson can (at least begin) to comprehend. I liked this book because I am intrigued by quantum physics and hope one day to have a rudimentary understanding. This book helped me in that quest.
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Thorough and honest portrait of a fascinating figure.

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Read this during a cruise on year. Super... Dr. Bohm was a brilliant guy. 👍

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This is a well-written book about a very interesting person. David Bohm was a unique and very creative person who had an exceptional mind. He was able to pursue abstract thought to a far greater degree than most other people. But it’s difficult to live in high abstraction without loosing one’s grounding. David Bohm’s wife, Saral, was his anchor in life. Saral gave David stability and, to the extent that it was possible, a normal life. Saral also tried to support David during his recurring periods of depression which, without her, could have cost him his life.

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An Uncommon Collaboration: Introduction David Bohm and J. Krishnamurti

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An Uncommon Collaboration:
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2. Quantum Consequences 18
3. The Observer and the Observed 28
4. The World Teacher 38
5. Choiceless Awareness 49
6. Three Diaries 59
7. The Mirror of Relationship 70
8. Ojai 87
9. The Nature of Intelligence 97
10. Wholeness and Fragmentation 108
11. Bohm’s Reservations 118
12. The Ending of Time I 128
13. The Ending of Time II 144
14. The Ending of Time III 154
15. The Ending of Time IV 165
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16. Confrontation 176
17. Thought as a System 185
18. Physics and Metaphysics 194
19. The Source of Revelation 204
20. Implications and Reflections 214
Appendices
1. Moody/Bohm on Krishnamurti 226
2. Moody/Bohm on Time 237
3. Inward Observation 246
4. Physics and the Laws of Nature 266



An Uncommon Collaboration:
David Bohm and J. Krishnamurti

Introduction

In a world consumed with problems of every possible kind and dimension –
environmental, economic, political, religious, social, ethical, and personal – and deepseated conflicts resulting in endemic violence, the question must arise whether the
multiplicity of issues all arise from disparate sources, with little relationship among them;
or whether these problems and conflicts have a common denominator. Our leaders
evidently conceptualize and seek solutions on a piecemeal basis, with little attention
given to the possibility that the only meaningful and enduring answer lies in
understanding that our problems have a common source. To examine the matter in this
fashion seems to be a radical approach in and of itself; and what we discover if we
investigate in this way may go beyond the radical – the penetration to the root of things –
to open up a new way of looking and behaving that may be characterized as
revolutionary.
The psychological philosopher J. Krishnamurti (1895 – 1986) examined society
and human affairs in precisely this manner. Although he lacked academic degrees or any
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form of institutional support beyond the barest minimum, he managed over the course of
a lifetime to articulate an original, profound, and comprehensive understanding of
consciousness as it functions in daily life, and to elucidate the structural features of it that
lead to illusion, conflict and disorder on an individual as well as a collective scale. In this
endeavor, he touched the lives of millions, and he engaged in dialogues, many of them
recorded, with hundreds of individuals who found his observations deeply insightful and
vitally important. Of those with whom he engaged in this manner, none was more
significant than the quantum theoretical physicist David Bohm.
Among the major innovators in intellectual history, collaboration is the exception,
not the norm. Copernicus, da Vinci, Galileo, Newton, Shakespeare, Mozart, Einstein –
most of those whom we consider to represent the quality of genius were individuals who
broke new ground without a travelling companion. A few prominent exceptions spring to
mind: Watson and Crick; Russell and Whitehead; Freud and Jung (for a time); Rodgers
and Hammerstein. These exceptions are notable, however, precisely for their infrequency
of occurrence.
Among that small subset of collaborations among men of genius, the case of J.
Krishnamurti and David Bohm may be the most extraordinary. Watson and Crick were
both biologists; Russell and Whitehead both philosophers; Freud and Jung both
psychiatrists. But David Bohm was an eminent scientist, a physicist, whereas
Krishnamurti represented a blend of philosopher and psychologist, with a spiritual or
metaphysical background. How did these two men find one another? What did they
have in common? What did they talk about?
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Over a period of two decades, 144 conversations were recorded between Bohm
and Krishnamurti, and many of these dialogues were videotaped as well. Thirty-four
were transcribed and edited for publication and appeared in a series of books including
the following titles: The Limits of Thought; Truth and Actuality; The Wholeness of Life;
The Ending of Time; and The Future of Humanity.
Krishnamurti’s philosophy is personal and direct. It is not a matter of abstractions
about arcane theories, much less New Age flights of fancy. He addressed everyday
issues of fear, loneliness, love, death, sorrow, joy, and self-understanding. At the same
time, his views are subtle and sometimes elusive. He paid great attention to the
respective roles of thought, emotion, desire, intelligence, and insight, and to the
possibility of a transformation of consciousness. He emphasized that he was not any kind
of authority figure and that his philosophy had significance only to the extent that it
facilitated the actual understanding of oneself.
Bohm is now acknowledged as among the foremost physicists of the twentieth
century. His associations with Oppenheimer and Einstein are interesting in their own
right, but of far greater significance were his contributions to the foundations of quantum
theory. These were sufficiently radical as to mark him as a maverick in the field, and it
has required decades for his contribution to be more fully appreciated. His life- and
career-altering encounter with the House Committee on UnAmerican Activities adds
another dimension to his intriguing personal story.
There can be little doubt that Bohm regarded Krishnamurti’s philosophy as
essential to his understanding of his own state of mind. This factor adds an intensely
human and poignant element to the quality of their collaboration. The biographical
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information presented in the early chapters of this book should be understood in that
context. The extraordinary sequence of events, political and professional, that dominated
the first decades of Bohm’s career must have prepared him to appreciate and explore
Krishnamurti’s work. The success or failure of his involvement with that philosophy
represents the subtext of all that follows here.
From 1975 until 1992, I had the good fortune to work closely with both
Krishnamurti (until his death in 1986) and with David Bohm. This involvement occurred
in the context of the Oak Grove School, founded by Krishnamurti in Ojai, California,
where I worked as teacher, educational director, and as director. My relationship with the
two men focused on educational and psychological issues, but there was a personal
element as well. This background perhaps prepared me to appreciate the quality and the
meaning of the twenty-plus-year dialogue that occurred between them, and it adds an
element of richness and context that would not otherwise be available.
It may be many years before the collaboration between Krishnamurti and David
Bohm can be fully unraveled and assessed. Their dialogue was so extensive and
profound as to defy encapsulation in any single book. The aim of the present volume is
to introduce their work to a larger audience, not to provide any final or definitive
characterization of it. Each man was uncommonly interesting and unusual by himself,
and the record of their interaction even more so. The story of their relationship is
timeless. 

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I have been working up to being able to read this book from cover to cover, and at least have some idea of what the most technical sections are arguing, since I first started studying Bohm's ideas in the late 1980s.

If one can get through the complex physics context of his insights, I believe he expresses a revolutionary degree of sanity and simplicity.

Everything belongs and makes sense in Bohm's model. The classical worldview is a limiting condition already contained in the quantum model, not an external to be presupposed and grappled with for historical reasons. Quantum processes occur independent of observations. Time doesn't flow backwards as in Feynman Diagrams, or delayed choice experiments. Non-locality like the EPR experiments is the rule, not the exception. Mind and Matter are both expressions of the same implicit holistic flow, not opposed to each other or separated arbitrarily.

In short, this book makes a highly articulate case for an ontological holism that has the ability to make intuitive, graspable, (simple in its own way) sense of the physical world and Everything.

It is worth reading even for the physics novice. It is about a lot more than re-framing contemporary quantum mechanics with a more intuitive paradigm. It is intensely consistent and coherent in its approach to all of experience, and treats physical theory and mathematics as descriptive of an ever-evolving horizon of our total understanding.



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Not the introductory text in quantum mechanics I thought it was - this is an advanced textbook! Bohm gives an ontological interpretation of QM, rather than the epistemological interpretation most physicists give, the latter limiting the possibilities of the theory. Bohm also repeats his theory of the implicate order, forst described in Wholeness and the Implicate Order. This book stays much closer to physics and mathematics, though, and is therefore harder to read. Bohm's theory is still tentative, carefully involving consciousness into QM, but is a much healthier alternative to the abuse many New Agers make of quantum theory.

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Remarkable. I do not understand why Bohm's ideas are not more widely accepted and appreciated. Bohmian mechanics explains much at little cost.

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Bohm and Hiley make an argument for a new interpretation of quantum mechanics in which the hypothetical models calculated to account for experimental observations correspond to actually-occurring processes, rather than simply mathematical abstractions used to facilitate accurate predictions. This interpretation leads them to suggest that the quantum field comprises a pool of non-locally communicating information which informs the behavior of classically observable fields and particles. They address the implications of their interpretation for quantum theory's a priori hypotheses as well as its experimental results, and show that they arrive at results identical to those of traditional interpretations. Their proofs do make heavy use of the algebraic equations particular to quantum theory, but as long as one already has some grasp of the concepts and notation of such representations it is possible to comprehend their conclusions, if not follow all of their arguments in line-by-line detail.

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Lol 3 years after i have finished this book. It was because before i was weak and could not understand at all what this was giving me. Many formulas had to watch videos to understand physics, but now i have finished it and helped me align myself with the universe better. It showed me the dimension of where i am and how it is represented in the space and all the elements that cause interaction in it.
Also made me a better person to break some barriers that were not allowing my quantums to keep onmoving amd helped me understand how my particles can keep creating energy and communicate with the world.

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I have loved this book because the ideas it addresses are very interesting. More physicists today should consider these ideas seriously and think in ontological terms. Quantum mechanics becomes much more intuitive under Bohm's interpretation.

However, the material is very dense. I have only made it to page 232. I am putting the book down for a while, just because it is dense and I don't have as much time to read as I would like. I am putting it down only until I have some more free time again, and plan to finish it then. Again, this has nothing to do with the quality of the material.
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As a theoretical chemist whose dissertation was on applications and further development of the Quantum Theory of Atoms IN Molecules (the most rigorous partitioning of matter), Bohm’s UNdivided universe is literally the opposite paradigm from what I have been accustomed to. For that reason alone it drew me in, like a moth to a flame. What new secrets does it hold?

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Bohm's ambitious book—his last, published after his death—attempts to prove his quantum theory mathematically and show that it is the most complete theory for the moment. He subsumes the common theory by providing a model for a holistic, quantum universe, not merely predicting experimental results, and shows that the classical physics world is a sub-world of a quantum one. The mathematics can be difficult for the non-technical reader, but overall some very intriguing stuff, particularly his digressions into consciousness and his explanations for classical dynamics as a function of quantum dynamics.

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The quantum potential paradigm is neat; but like every other quantum mechanics book I've read, this one discusses a lot of meta-physics.

Also, it's obvious that Hiley rushed the book through the publisher after Bohm died to keep the Bohm name on the cover. It could have used some more editing.


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referenced in "Nontrivial quantum effects in biology" by Wiseman and Eisert

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