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18 Asian Female Theologians You Should Know About (Plus Others For You To Explore) | Graham Hill and Jessie Giyou Kim



18 Asian Female Theologians You Should Know About (Plus Others For You To Explore) | Graham Hill and Jessie Giyou Kim

18 ASIAN FEMALE THEOLOGIANS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT (PLUS OTHERS FOR YOU TO EXPLORE)

Jan 2, 2019 | Blog, Women, World Christianity | 0 comments



18 Asian Female Theologians You Should Know About (Plus Others For You To Explore)
By Graham Hill and Jessie Giyou Kim

Some of the most creative and important theology being done today is being done by Asian female theologians. These Asian female theologians live in Asia and also among the diaspora (in North America, Europe, Australia, etc.). Many of them do classic and contextual theological work. But they are also often practitioner-theologians, pastor-theologians, or activist-theologians.

Asian females make up at least 30% of the world’s population (and even more when you include those living outside of Asia). But when you ask pastors, theological students, or even theologians to name Asian female theologians, they are often at a loss. Many can’t name any (or at best they can name only a few).

But the global movement of Asian women doing theology is growing and diverse. And it is becoming increasingly prominent and influential. Kwok Pui-lan talks about the diversity and importance of Asian female theologians, this way:

“More than half of the world’s population live in Asia, a multicultural and multireligious continent that has undergone tremendous transformation during the past several decades. From Japan to Indonesia, and from the Philippines to Central Asia, people live in different socio-political realities and divergent cultural worlds. Divided into at least seven linguistic zones, Asia is also the birthplace of the major historical religions of humankind.”[1] Kwok Pui-lan goes on to say,


“Asian women comprise more than a quarter of the world’s population. They live on a fascinating multilingual, multireligious, and multiracial continent” and in diaspora all over the world. Asian cultures have “diverse eating habits, ways of life, and social and cultural realities.” Asian female theological voices are shaped by “immense cultural and religious diversity,” and are “pluralistic and multivocal, woven out of many separate strands.”18 Asian female theologians you should know about (plus others for you to explore)CLICK TO TWEET

As we learn from Asian female theologians, it is important to remember that their voices are diverse and many. As Rita Nakashima Brock says, “We differ as much from each other in culture and language as we do from white, Eurocentric feminism,” or from white male authors.

Unfortunately, the ignorance about Asian female theologians and their writings is widespread and persistent. It is due time for this to change. The local and global church needs the voices and contributions of Asian women. These Asian female voices enrich our theology, revitalize our churches, and renew the world.

For this reason, we have decided to feature 18 Asian female theologians you should know about. We have chosen these 18 because they have been influential in our personal lives and how we think about and practice our faith and theology. And at the end of this article we offer 114 more Asian female theologians whose work we are growing to admire and enjoy. (Note: This is a series we are running profiling female theologians — see our other article in this series, “18 Latin American Female Theologians You Should Know About”).
18 Asian (and Asian American) Female Theologians You Should Know About

Here are the 18 Asian female theologians that everyone should know about and read.

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Aruna Gnanadason

Aruna Gnanadason was formerly the Executive Director for Planning and Integration in the General Secretariat of the World Council of Churches. She was Coordinator of the Justice Peace and Creation Team and of the Women’s Programme of the World Council of Churches before taking up that position. She has a doctorate in ministry from the San Francisco Theological Seminary, and three honorary doctorates. Aruna comes from India and belongs to the Church of South India.

Aruna Gnanadason writes about creation care and eco-feminist theology, globalization and local cultures, women and faith, peacemaking and leading nonviolent change, and addressing violence against women. Her publications include “Asian Women in the Ecumenical Movement: Voices of Resistance and Hope” (2017), “Jesus and the Asian Woman: A Post-colonial Look at the Syro-Phoenician Woman/Canaanite Woman from an Indian Perspective” (2001), Listen to the Women! Listen to the Earth! (2005), Women, Violence and Nonviolent Change (ed.) (2009), and Creator God in Your Grace, Transform the Earth: An Eco-Feminist Ethic of Resistance, Prudence and Care (2012).


Chung Hyun Kyung

Chung Hyun Kyung is Associate Professor of Ecumenical Theology at Union Theological Seminary. She writes about feminist and eco-feminist theologies, Third World spiritualities, Christ-Buddhist dialogues, mysticism and social movements, and the contributions and uniqueness of Asian Christian theologies.

In Struggle to Be in the Sun Again, Chung Hyun Kyung writes the following about being an Asian female theologian: “Doing theology is a personal and a political activity. As a Korean woman, I do theology in search of what it means to be fully human in my struggle for wholeness and in my people’s concrete historical fight for freedom” (1990: 1). In an interview with Zion’s Herald, she challenges the Western dominance of Third World theologies and perspectives: “I think in order to really heal the world we need the ‘wisdom of darkness.’ This can be the Third World, dark people, women, or our ‘shadows,’… all the things we do not want to confront within ourselves, so we project them onto others and call them terrorists. So, I think that we need ‘endarkenment’ for a while, not enlightenment, to heal the world.”

Chung Hyun Kyung’s publications include Struggle to Be the Sun Again: Introducing Asian Women’s Theology (1990), “‘Han-pu-ri’: Doing Theology from Korean Women’s Perspective” (1988), “Seeking the Religious Roots of Pluralism” (1997), “Asian Christologies and People’s Religions” (1996), and “Ecology, Feminism and African and Asian Spirituality: Towards a Spirituality of Eco-feminism” (1994).

Elizabeth “Lisa” Yao-Hwa Sung

Elizabeth (Lisa) Sung is a Protestant systematic theologian serving as a visiting Professor of Theology at University of Saint Mary of the Lake / Mundelein Seminary. Prior to that she was Associate Professor in the Department of Biblical and Systematic Theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. She has received fellowships from the Wabash Center for Teaching and Learning and the Carl F. Henry Center for Theological Understanding. She is a member of the American Academy of Religion and the Evangelical Theological Society. Dr Sung also teaches in the course “Global Theologies”, offered by seminaries within the Roman Catholic, mainline Protestant, and evangelical Protestant traditions.

Elizabeth (Lisa) Sung’s writings focus on theological hermeneutics, theological anthropology, the intersections between theology and science and culture, and theologies of sanctification and spiritual formation. Her publications include “Race” and Ethnicity Discourse and the Christian Doctrine of Humanity: A Systematic Sociological and Theological Appraisal (2011), “‘Racial Realism’ in Biblical Interpretation and Theological Anthropology: A Systematic-Theological Evaluation of Recent Accounts” (2015), and “‘Race’ and Ethnicity Discourse and the Christian Doctrine of Humanity: A Systematic Sociological and Theological Approach” (2011). She is currently engaged in two major writing projects: a volume on theological anthropology for the multi-author systematic theology textbook series, Foundations of Evangelical Theology, and a book that analyzes, critiques, and reconstructs racial identity in light of Scripture and sociology.

Grace Ji-Sun Kim

Grace Ji-Sun Kim is an Associate Professor of Theology at Earlham School of Religion. Englewood Review of Books listed Intersectional Theology (co-written with Susan Shaw) as one of the Best Theology Books of 2018. Healing Our Broken Humanity (co-written with Graham Hill) was included in Englewood Review of Books list of Best Books of 2018. Grace Ji-Sun Kim is a member of the Board of Directors for the American Academy of Religion. She served on the American Academy of Religion’s (AAR) “Research Grants Jury Committee” and was co-chair of AAR’s steering committee, “Women of Color Scholarship, Teaching and Activism Group.” She sits on the editorial board for the Journal for Religion and Popular Culture and is a referee for 3 journals, including the Journal of Race, Ethnicity, and Religion. She is an Advisory Board Member for the Center for Reconciliation at Duke Divinity School.

Grace Ji-Sun Kim is the author or editor of 16 books, and she writes about a wide range of topics, including feminist and post-colonial theologies, Asian-American and intersectional theologies, climate justice and racial reconciliation, and intercultural ministry. Her publications include Healing Our Broken Humanity: Practices for Revitalizing the Church and Renewing the World (co-written with Graham Hill) (2018), Intersectional Theology: An Introductory Guide (co-written with Susan Shaw) (2018), Embracing the Other: The Transformative Spirit of Love (2015), and Making Peace with the Earth: Action and Advocacy for Climate Justice (2016).

Grace Yia-Hei Kao

Grace Yia-Hei Kao is Professor of Ethics at Claremont School of Theology. She serves as the co-director of the Center for Sexuality, Gender and Religion (CSGR), and serves on the steering committees of the Animals and Religion Group (ARG), and the Women of Color Scholarship, Teaching, and Activism Group (WOCSTAG) of the American Academy of Religion. She is on the Board of Advisors of the Pacific, Asian, and North American Asian Women in Theology and Ministry (PANAAWTM), and serves on the editorial boards of the Journal of Religious Ethics (JRE), the Journal of the Society of Christian Ethics (JSCE), and the Journal of Race, Ethnicity, and Religion (JRER).

Grace Yia-Hei Kao’s writings focus on human and animal rights, religion in the public space, ecofeminism, and Asian American Christianity. Her publications include Grounding Human Rights in a Pluralist World (2011), Asian American Christian Ethics: Voices, Methods Issues (ed.) (2015), and Encountering the Sacred: Feminist Reflections on Women’s Lives (ed.) (2018).

Havilah Dharamraj

Havilah Dharamraj is a Langham Scholar, and serves as Academic Dean and Professor of Old Testament at South Asia Institute of Advanced Christian Studies (SAIACS) in Bangalore, India. Her academic degrees are in biochemistry and theology, and she has a PhD from the University of Durham, UK.

Havilah Dharamraj’s research centers on Old Testament biblical and theological studies, and innovation in theological education and ministry training. Her publications include Altogether Lovely: A Thematic and Intertextual Reading of the Song of Songs (South Asian Theology) (2018), South Asia Bible Commentary: A One-Volume Commentary on the Whole Bible (ed.) (2015), Challenging Tradition: Innovation in Advanced Theological Education (ed.) (2018), A Prophet Like Moses?: A Narrative – Theological Reading of the Elijah Stories (2011), and “We Reap What We Sow: Engaging Curriculum and Context in Theological Education” (2014).

Henriette Marianne Katoppo

Henriette Marianne Katoppo was an Indonesian feminist theologian and novelist, whose novels and theological works received international acclaim. She was a pioneer in Asian feminist theology, and used Asian stories and myths to interpret theology; presenting God as a mother and Mary as the complete woman. Fluent in a dozen Asian and European languages, she spearheaded Asian feminist theology in the 1970s – at a time when Asian theologies and Asian feminist theologies were mostly unknown in the West. Her novels captured the imagination of Indonesian society, and her novel Raumanenwon first prize at the Jakarta Arts Council Novel Competition.

Henriette Marianne Katoppo’s publications include Raumanen (a novel republished in 2018), Compassionate and Free: An Asian Woman’s Theology (2000), “Conversion: An Asian Women’s Experience: From Tribal Priestess to Social Critic” (1979), “Structures of Communion and Structures of Domination: A Biblical Reflection on Genesis 1:1 to 4:22” (1992), “Women That Make Asia Alive” (1986), “Asian Theology: An Asian Woman’s Perspective” (1981), “Women in Asia” (1983), “Woman’s Image of Herself” (1984), and “Jail was a Healthy Lesson on Freedom” (1980).

Julie C. Ma

Julie C. Ma is Associate Professor of Missions and Intercultural Studies at Oral Roberts University. She has also taught at the Asia Pacific Theological Seminary in the Philippines, and at the Oxford Center Mission Studies in Oxford, UK. She has authored and edited numerous books, often with her husband Wonsuk Ma. She served as the president of the Asia Pentecostal Society from 2014–2015.

Julie C. Ma writes about Asian theology, Asian expressions of Christianity, Pentecostal pneumatology, mission in the Spirit, Pentecostalism in Asian and Confucian societies, and evangelism and church planting. Her publications include When the Spirit Meets the Spirits: Pentecostal Ministry Among the Kankana-ey Tribe in the Philippines (2010), Mission Possible: Biblical Strategies for Reaching the Lost (2005), Mission in the Spirit: Towards a Pentecostal/Charismatic Missiology (with Wonsuk Ma) (2011), Asian Church and God’s Mission (with Wonsuk Ma) (2003), “Korean Pentecostal Spirituality: A Case Study of Jashil Choi” (2002), “The Holy Spirit in Mission” (2015), and “The Role of Christian Women in the Global South” (2014).

Kathy Khang

Kathy Khang is a writer, speaker, theologian, and activist, who has spent more than 20 years in parachurch ministries, mostly focusing on college students and also training Christian organizations and church leaders. She writes about the intersections between faith, culture, and gender. Kathy Khang’s books and articles explore the ways the church can engage in the ministry of reconciliation, and in amplifying the voices of those who are silenced because of their ethnicity or gender, and in genuine social change.

Kathy Khang’s publications include Raise Your Voice: Why We Stay Silent and How to Speak Up (2018), More Than Serving Tea: Asian American Women on Expectations, Relationships, Leadership and Faith (co-author) (2006), “Dear White Santa” (2018), “Dear White Santa (The Sequel)” (2018), “Opting Out of the Back-White Binary: A Korean American on Filling in the Gaps of Our Collective History” (2016), and “Resistance Takes Action” (2017).

Kwok Pui-lan

Kwok Pui-lan is the Distinguished Visiting professor of Theology at Candler School of Theology, and is the former William F. Cole Professor of Christian Theology and Spirituality at Episcopal Divinity School. She has taught theology at major universities and seminaries all over the world, including the Chinese University of Hong Kong, Auburn Theological Seminary, Union Theological Seminary, and Yale Divinity School.

Kwok Pui-lan researches and writes about Asian and feminist theologies, postcolonial theology, biblical hermeneutics, ecotheology, Asian Christologies, and the theological perspectives, spiritual experiences, and biblical interpretations of Asian women and marginalized peoples. Integrating postcolonial and feminist theologies in order to do justice to the experiences of the women of the Third World (Majority World), Kwok Pui-lan explores the theological intersections between gender, race, class, culture, poverty, colonialism, sexuality, religion, the arts, story, and liturgy.

Kwok Pui-lan has written or edited over 20 books, and her publications include Occupy Religion: Theology of the Multitude (2012), Postcolonial Imagination and Feminist Theology (2005), Introducing Asian Feminist Theology (2000), Discovering the Bible in the Non-Biblical World (1995), Chinese Women and Christianity, 1860–1927 (1992), and Hope Abundant: Third World and Indigenous Women’s Theology (2010).
Sydney Park

Sydney Park is Associate Professor of Divinity at Beeson Divinity School, teaching biblical interpretation and New Testament theology. Her writings cover such topics as New Testament theology, Asian American church life and theology, biblical theology of women, and racial reconciliation. Her publications include The Post-Racial Church: A Biblical Framework for Multiethnic Reconciliation (2011), Submission within the Godhead and the Church in the Epistle to the Philippians: An Exegetical and Theological Examination of the Concept of Submission in Philippians 2 and 3 (2007), Honoring the Generations: Learning with Asian North American Congregations (ed.) (2012), and A Biblical Theology of Women (2019).

Melba Padilla Maggay

Melba Padilla Maggay lives in the Philippines. She’s a writer, theologian, political activist, sociologist, and highly respected Christian leader. She’s the founder and director of the Institute for Studies in Asian Church and Culture (ISACC), based in Quezon City in the Philippines. Melba Padilla Maggay gained international prominence and acclaim through her writings, through her social and political leadership, and through her work to transform broken communities. She was instrumental in organizing the Protestant presence at the EDSA barricades during the February People Power Uprising in the Philippines in 1986. Melba founded ISACC, which has a vision “to see the gospel of Christ so rooted in Asian cultures that they are engaged by its values and empowered to become societies of justice and righteousness. Our mission is to creatively witness to the Lordship of Jesus in all of life by penetrating cultures with the values of the Kingdom and engaging the powers towards social transformation.” ISACC is a research and training organization that offers courses and training, and that also engages in political advocacy and community transformation programs.

Melba Padilla Maggay writes about Asian theology, transforming society, multicultural ministry and communicating cross-culturally, serving among the urban poor, integral mission, contextualization through Asian eyes, political theology, and social anthropology. Her publications include Transforming Society (1994), Rise Up & Walk: Religion and Culture in Empowering the Poor (2016), A Clash of Cultures: Early American Protestant Missions and Filipino Religious Consciousness (2011), A Faith for the Emptiness of Our Time (1990),Global Kingdom, Global People: Living Faithfully in a Multicultural World (2017), and Integral Mission: Biblical Foundations (2016). Her articles include “Confronting the Powers” (2009), “Why Poor Are Always With Us: A Filipino Christian’s Propositions” (2009), “Excluded Voices: Women, Communications, and the Church in Asia” (1995), and “To Respond to Human Need By Loving Service” (2008).

Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro

Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro is a professor of theology in the Divinity School of Silliman University in Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, the Philippines. She is also the Director of the Justice and Peace Center at that university. Her research and writing focuses on Asian feminist theology and Christologies that are adequate for Asian women. For Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro, Western Christologies are insufficient for Asian women, who need to discover and talk and theologize about Jesus out of their own experience, hopes, understandings, and languages. In her book The Jesus of Asian Women, Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro shows how South Korean feminist theologies and Christologies give rich insight into ecotheology and creation care, how Filipina Christologies offer new insights into liberation theologies, and how Hong Kong and postcolonial feminist theologies help us see Jesus in fresh ways. Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro concludes with the following. “Overall, the Jesus of Asian women is the Asian Christ who accompanies them in their daily struggles for liberation from all forms of oppression and suffering. This Christ seeks to engage with religions, cultures, and indigenous spiritualities to make life flourish for every living being.” (194).

Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro shows how Christian ethics must have a transformational role. This is especially the case when Christian ethics address the marginalized women of Asia. She shows how Asian women are developing indigenous Christologies and associated ethical practices. These can have a transforming effect on women in India, Korea, the Philippines, and Hong Kong. For example, Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro writes of the plight of many young girls in the Philippines. Cartels traffic these girls for sex with foreign tourists. The legal and policing systems that should protect these girls ignore and abuse them. She writes how Filipino women’s voices are rising. They are seeking justice.

Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro shows how Filipino women are exploring the person and work of Jesus afresh. They are meeting Jesus, the Wounded Healer, as wounded healers. In The Jesus of Asian Women she writes, “Filipino women must face the challenge to keep going, to embody Christ in accompanying the people in their journey out of the bondage of evil. Her prophetic ministry, her dances, her songs and rituals, must provide healing and inspiration to the wounded spirits out there.” (157).

Muriel Orevillo-Montenegro’s publications include The Jesus of Asian Women (Women from the Margins Series) (2006), “Capitalism as Religion: When Does the Cycle End?” (2013), “Revisiting and Reclaiming Incarnation: An Asian Woman’s Christological Journey” (2012), and “Why Are Some People Cast So Low? Feminist Theology and the Problem of Evil” (2000).

Namsoon Kang

Namsoon Kang is Professor of Theology and Religion at Brite Divinity School, having formerly served on the Faculty of Divinity at Cambridge University in the United Kingdom and the Methodist Theological University in South Korea. She is president of the World Conference of Associations of Theological Institutions (WOCATI) and on the global faculty for the Global Ecumenical Theological Institute. Namsoon Kang’s writings focus on apophatic theology/philosophy, deconstruction, postmodernism, ecumenism, postcolonialism, gender studies, diaspora theology, human rights and justice, hospitality, and postcolonial mission.

Namsoon Kang’s publications include Handbook of Theological Education in World Christianity: Theological Perspectives, Ecumenical Trends, Regional Surveys (co-editor) (2010), Cosmopolitan Theology: Reconstituting Planetary Hospitality, Neighbor-Love, and Solidarity in an Uneven World (2013), Postcolonial Mission: Power and Partnership in World Christianity (co-editor) (2011), Diasporic Feminist Theology: Asia and Theopolitical Imagination (2014), “God in Your Grace, Transform Our Churches” (2006), “Theology From a Space Where Postcolonialism and Feminism Intersect” (2013), “Towards Healing and Reconciliation of ‘Regardless’: Radicalizing Christian Mission for Today” (2005), and “The Centrality of Gender Justice in Prophetic Christianity and the Mission of the Church Reconsidered” (2005).

Nikki Toyama-Szeto

Nikki Toyama-Szeto is Executive Director of Evangelicals for Social Action (ESA), having previously served with International Justice Mission, the Urbana Conference, and InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. She speaks and trains leaders globally—past engagements include speaking for Tearfund (Nepal), Centro Esdras (Guatemala), Christian Community Development Association (USA), and Billy Graham Center (USA). Nikki Toyama-Szeto has served on the Third Lausanne Congress (2010), and on the boards of Interserve USA, Missio Alliance, and Casa Chiralagua. She serves as a “Leading Voice” for Missio Alliance, and her ministry was profiled in Christianity Today’s, “Who’s Next?” and Rejuvenate Magazine’s “40 under 40”. Her insights about peace, theology, and justice are rooted in ministry among the poor and marginalized peoples in Nairobi, Cairo, Bangkok, and major cities in the United States.

Nikki Toyama-Szeto writes about shalom, justice, the kingdom of God, Asian American female Christian faith and experiences, and racial reconciliation. Her publications include God of Justice: The IJM Institute Global Church Curriculum (2015), More Than Serving Tea: Asian American Women on Expectations, Relationships, Leadership and Faith (co-editor) (2006), Partnering With the Global Church (2012), “Recovering Prayer and Discernment in Our Agendas and Strategies” (2016), and “More Than Serving Tea: One Asian Woman’s Journey to the Real Jesus” (2008).

Rita Nakashima Brock

Rita Nakashima Brock is Senior Vice President of Volunteers of America Moral Injury programs. She was formerly the Founding Co-Director of the Soul Repair Center at Brite Divinity School, and a theology professor for twenty years. Previously, she directed the Fellowship Program at the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study, Harvard University, a prominent advanced research institute, and from 2001-2002, she was a Fellow at the Harvard Divinity School Center for Values in Public Life.

Rita Nakashima Brock writes about spirituality and moral injury, theologies of war and peace, theologies of peace and suffering, postcolonial and feminist theologies, human sexuality and liberation, and ecotheology and creation care. She was the first Asian American woman to earn a doctorate in Theology (Claremont Graduate University, 1988) and to serve on the Board of Directors of the American Academy of Religion.

Rita Nakashima Brock does not self-identify as an Asian female theologian, but as an Asian American feminist theologian. Her publications (many of her books are co-authored) include Proverbs of Ashes : Violence, Redemptive Suffering, and the Search for What Saves Us (2002), Saving Paradise: How Christianity Traded Love of This World for Crucifixion and Empire (2008), Journeys by Heart: A Christology of Erotic Power (1988), Casting Stones: Prostitution and Liberation in Asia and the United States (1996), Saving Paradise: Recovering Christianity’s Forgotten Love for this Earth (2012), Soul Repair: Recovering from Moral Injury after War (2013), “What Has Occupy Got to Do with Feminist Liberation Theology?” (2013), “Communities of the Cross: Christa and the Communal Nature of Redemption” (2005), “The Fiction of Church and State Separation: A Proposal for Greater Freedom of Religion” (2002), and “A Witness For/From Life: Writing Feminist Theology as an Act of Resisting Violence—Responses to Proverbs of Ashes: Violence, Redemptive Suffering, and the Search for What Save Us” (2002).

Sarah Shin

Sarah Shin is the Associate National Director of Evangelism at InterVarsity Christian Fellowship (IVCF). She is an acclaimed speaker and trainer, whose writing and speaking focus on ethnicity, evangelism, and the arts. She is especially passionate about helping Christian integrate evangelism with ethnic reconciliation, justice, beauty, and technology. She explores how our brokenness around ethnicity can be healed and restored. Sarah Shin’s book Beyond Colorblind also helps Christians develop cross-cultural skills, manage cross-cultural conflict, pursue reconciliation and justice, and share the gospel as ethnicity-aware Christians.

Sarah Shin’s publications include “Racial Difference Without Division: The Power of an Ethnicity-Honoring Witness” (2017), Beyond Colorblind: Redeeming Our Ethnic Journey (2017), and Moving Beyond Colorblind: A Resource Guide for Churches and Organizations (2018).

Wonhee Anne Joh
Wonhee Anne Joh is Professor of Theology and Culture at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary. She researches and writes about constructive theology, transpacific Asian American studies/theologies, empire and post/decolonial studies, war, migration, militarism, carcerality, race, gender, sexuality, cold war, trauma studies, affect theory, global anti-colonial movements, and emergent political theologies. Wonhee Anne Joh’s book Heart of the Cross is critically acclaimed. “Utilizing the Korean concept of jeong, Joh constructs a theology that is feminist, political and love-centered, while acknowledging the cross as source of pain and suffering. Joh’s innovative vision is a call for political love that is stronger than powers of oppression.” (From the book’s description). The book constructs a Christology rooted in Wonhee Anne Joh’s Asian/Korean American experience, and in dialogue with post-colonial, liberationist, feminist, psychoanalytical, and post-structuralist theories.

Wonhee Anne Joh’s publications include Heart of the Cross: A Postcolonial Christology (2006), Critical Theology against US Militarism in Asia: Decolonization and Deimperialization (New Approaches to Religion and Power) (ed.) (2016), Double Gesture on the Cross: Toward a Postcolonial Feminist Christology of Jeong (2003), and “A Postcolonial Spectrality of the Cross” (2013).
Listening and Learning from More Than Half of the Church

Women make up more than half of the church. Asian women make up more than a quarter of the church’s population. It is time for us all to listen to women’s voices, honor their contributions, follow their examples of reconciliation and ministry and activism, and learn from their theological writing and thoughts. As Juliany González Nieves says, “It is time that we get to know the faces and hear the voices of the women doing theology across the globe.”
114 More Asian (and Asian American) Female Theologians You Should Know About

We chose the 18 Asian female theologians featured in this article not because they are necessarily more important than other Asian female theologians, but rather because these 18 have been influential in our personal spiritual formation, in our lives, and in our theology. But as we’ve continued to read the writings of Asian women, we’ve grown to value and enjoy many more.

Here are 114 more Asian female theologians that we are currently reading and who are becoming increasingly important in our lives and how we approach our theology, witness, reconciliation, worship, and discipleship. These are 114 more Asian female theologians we think you should know about and read. We also offer some examples of their books or articles.

Please note two things:

The books and articles we provide are representative works, and not exhaustive lists for each theologian.
This is not an exhaustive list of Asian and Asian American female theologians. This is a work-in-progress, and we will continue to update this list over the coming months and years. Please feel free to email us with other female theologians you think we should add to this list – info@theglobalchurchproject.com

We hope that you, like us, will grow to love and value the work of Asian female theologians and activists. If you think we should add an Asian (or Asian American, or Asian American feminist) female theologian, biblical scholar, or theologian-activist to this list, please let us know!

Agnes M. Brazal – Intercultural Church: Bridge of Solidarity in the Migration Context (2015), Feminist Cyberethics in Asia: Religious Discourses on Human Connectivity (ed.) (2014), Transformative Theological Ethics: East Asian Contexts (ed.) (2011), and Church in an Age of Global Migration: A Moving Body (ed.) (2016).

Ahyun Lee – ““What Do I Call You?” Postcolonial Pastoral Care and Counseling: Ambiguous Sense of Self with Perspectives on the Experience of Korean Clergywomen” (2017).

Andrea Lizares Si – Body and Sexuality: Theological-Pastoral Perspectives of Women in Asia (ed.) (2004).

Angie Hong – “Advent and Activism” (2015), “Ugly Cries in Church: Why is it So Hard to Find Songs of Lament in Worship?” (2015), and “Equals at the Table” (in Intercultural Ministry) (2017).

Anna Marsiana – “Leadership and Power Relations in Social Movements” (In God’s Image, vol. 29, no. 2 (2010): 38–47).

Anna Sui Hluan – Silence in Translation: Interpreting 1 Corinthians 14:34–35 in Myanmar (2016).

Anne Dondapati Allen – “No Garlic, Please, We Are Indian: Reconstructing the De-eroticized Indian Woman” (in Off the Menu: Asian and Asian North American Women’s Religion and Theology) (2007).

Astrid Lobo-Gajiwala – Practicing Peace: Feminist Theology of Liberation, Asian Perspectives (ed.) (2011).

Athena Gorospe – God at the Borders: Globalization, Migration and Diaspora (co-author) (2015), and Judges (Asia Bible Commentary Series) (co-author) (2016).

Barbara M. Leung Lai – Glimpsing the Mystery: The Book of Daniel (2016).

Bo Karen Lee – Sacrifice and Delight in the Mystical Theologies of Anna Maria van Schurman and Madame Jeanne Guyon (2016).

Boyung Lee – Transforming Congregations through Community: Faith Formation from the Seminary to the Church (2013).

B. Yuki Schwartz – “Shame on the Trinity: Agamben’s The Kingdom and the Glory and the Theopolitics of Shame” (2012), “Bodies of Empire: Toward a US Multiracial Theology in the Shadow of the Cold War” (2012), and “Secret Identities: Mimicry, Stereotype and Identity Negotiation in Gene Yang’s American Born Chinese” (2010).

Chandra Talpade Mohanty – Feminism without Borders: Decolonizing Theory, Practicing Solidarity (2003), and Feminism and War: Confronting U.S. Imperialism (ed.) (2008). Mohanty is not a theologian, but her acclaimed work offers excellent insight into postcolonial transnationalist Asian feminist theory.

Chee-Chiew Lee – The Blessing of Abraham, the Spirit, and Justification in Galatians: Their Relationship and Significance for Understanding Paul’s Theology (2013).

Chiu Eng Tan – “A Descriptive Study of Mission Programs of Selected Philippine-Chinese Churches in Metro Manila: Policies, Motives and Views of Mission” (2003).

Chloe Sun – Love Already but not Yet: A Commentary on the Song of Songs (2016), Coming from God: A Daily Devotional based on the Hebrew Text of Exodus (2014), and The Ethics of Violence in the Story of Aqhat (2013).

Christine J. Hong – Identity, Youth, and Gender in the Korean American Christian Church (2015).

Courtney T. Goto – The Grace of Playing: Pedagogies for Leaning into God’s New Creation (2016), and Taking on Practical Theology: The Idolization of Context and the Hope of Community (2018).

Diane G. Chen – Let Me More of Their Beauty See: Reading Familiar Verses in Context (2011), God as Father in Luke-Acts (2005), and Luke: A New Covenant Commentary (2017).

Dwi Maria Handayani – “Female Evangelical Scholars in Indonesia: A Crisis or Opportunity?” (2017), and “Proverbs as Theology” (2018).

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Jessie Giyou Kim is studying a Bachelor of Theology degree through the Australian College of Theology. She was born in Seoul, South Korea, and moved to China at age 15. Jessie has served in mission in China, Australia, Cambodia, and Vietnam. Her areas of interest include mission, pastoral care, and caring for people. She is pursuing ordination for pastoral ministry with the Baptist Churches of Australia in order to become a pastor and missionary. Jessie grew up in various parts of Asia, and is fluent in Chinese, Korean, and English. A global citizen and a passionate disciple of Jesus, Jessie writes and translates theology posts in English, Korean, and Chinese, and edits and produces videos and podcasts on global theology and World Christianity.



Graham Hill (PhD) is the Founding Director of The GlobalChurch Project – www.theglobalchurchproject.com. He is Senior Lecturer at the University of Divinity. In July 2019, Graham begins in the role of Research Coordinator at Stirling Theological College (University of Divinity). Graham has written 6 books. His latest three books are “Global Church: Reshaping Our Conversations, Renewing Our Mission, Revitalizing Our Churches” (InterVarsity Press, 2016), “Salt, Light, and a City, Second Edition: Ecclesiology for the Global Missional Community: Volume 1, Western Voices” (Cascade, 2017), and a co-authored book with Grace Ji-Sun Kim called “Healing Our Broken Humanity: Practices for Revitalizing the Church and Renewing the World” (InterVarsity Press, 2018)



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[월간중앙] 김영호 前 산자부 장관이 본 韓·日 경제전쟁의 본질 - "한국 정부, 설명책임 다해 일본 시민 마음 얻어야" - 중앙일보

[월간중앙] 김영호 前 산자부 장관이 본 韓·日 경제전쟁의 본질 - "한국 정부, 설명책임 다해 일본 시민 마음 얻어야" - 중앙일보




[월간중앙] 김영호 前 산자부 장관이 본 韓·日 경제전쟁의 본질 - "한국 정부, 설명책임 다해 일본 시민 마음 얻어야"
[중앙일보] 입력 2019.08.31 15:00

日의 수출규제는 역사·경제·국제정치 요인 뒤섞여… 평화헌법 개정 포석 의미도
한국 정부는 日 백색국가 배제 철회하고 자유무역의 수호자 지향해야




한·일 관계 특집 - 단독 인터뷰




김영호 전 산자부 장관은 한·일 경제전쟁 속에서 ’한국이 보복을 지양하고, 민주주의와 자유무역의 대변자가 됐으면 좋겠다“고 희망했다.한·일 관계가 시계 제로다. 이럴 때 사람들은 길을 알려주는 현자(賢者)를 원한다. ‘정부를 비판하면 토착왜구’, ‘반일을 강조하면 종족주의’로 공격받는 이분법적 진영논리가 횡행하는 세상이라 더욱 그렇다.

김영호(79) 전 산업자원부 장관(단국대 석좌교수)은 한·일 갈등을 겹눈으로 응시할 수 있는 지일(知日)파 지식인이다. 도쿄대에서 정교수를 지냈고, ‘1910년 한·일 병합 조약은 불법 무효’라고 선언한 한·일 지식인 1000명의 공동성명을 끌어냈다. 2017년 11월 3일(일본 헌법 공포 기념일) 일본 시민 5만 명이 의회를 포위하고 평화헌법 수호를 다짐한 평화시위 모임에 동참해 노벨평화상을 수상한 ICAN(핵무기 철폐국제행동)과 강연을 했다.

유난히 무더웠던 8월 13일, 월간중앙과 만난 김 전 장관은 ‘본질’을 강조했다. 왜 이렇게 됐는지를 규명하는 작업은 듣고 싶은 말을 들려주는 것이 아니라 들어야 할 말을 들려주는 일이다. 나이를 무색케 하는 또렷한 어조로 김 전 장관은 역사·경제·국제정치가 혼재된 본질에 접근할 때 우리의 적절한 대응이 나올 수 있고 나아가 타협점도 모색할 수 있음을 전하고 싶어 했다.



“아베, ‘65년 체제’로 회귀 꿈꿔”
한·일 밀월로 통한 1998년 김대중-오부치 선언 때에 비하면 격세지감이다. 1965년 국교 수립 이후 지금이 최악의 관계인 것 같다.

“일본이 잘못했다는 것을 어느 정도 확실히 표현한 것은 고노 외상의 담화(1993년)가 처음이었다. 이후 사회당 출신 총리 무라야마의 담화(1995년)가 물꼬를 텄다. 김대중-오부치 선언은 무라야마 담화의 테두리 내에 있다. 무라야마 담화는 한국 식민지화의 부당성은 인정했지만 불법성은 인정하지 않았다. 

지금 현안은 식민통치의 불법성 문제다. 조금이라도 그 불법성을 인정한 것이 2010년의 간 나오토 담화였다. 간 나오토 담화는 한·일 지식인 공동 성명을 반영한 것이기도 해서 더욱 중요하다. 그러나 이후 민주당이 완전히 패하고 자민당이 정권을 잡았다. 이들은 간 나오토 담화 때 도달한 수준을 무시하려고 하고 있다.”

왜 아베는 전임 총리들의 노선을 따르지 않을까?

“아베는 1965년(한·일 국교 정상화) 체제로는 한·일 관계가 해결이 안 된다고 물고 늘어진다. 역대 수상들은 ‘65년 체제’의 한계를 넘어야 된다는 의미에서 담화를 계속 낸 것이다. 아베가 (더 이상의 사과 담화가 아니라) 65년 체제로 회귀하려는 데 문제의 핵심이 있다. 새로운 한·일 관계를 만들려는 역대 일본 수상들의 담화 ‘이후’로 가야될 텐데 지금 아베가 ‘이전’으로 가려고 하는 데 문제가 있다.”

아베가 추구하는 목적은 무엇인가?

“‘Japan is back’, 일본이 돌아왔다가 그것이다. 전후 체제로부터의 탈각(脫却, 좋지 못한 상황에서 벗어남)이다. 샌프란시스코 체제(1951년 9월 제2차 세계대전 패전국 일본이 미국과 체결한 강화조약)로 만들어진 것이 일본의 평화헌법이다. 그 이전에는 군국주의 일본의 찬양론과 미화론이 있었다. 거기로 돌아가려는 아베 입장에서는 위안부 문제와 강제징용 문제에서 한국의 입을 다물게 하고 싶은 마음이 있는 것이다. 그래야 헌법 개정의 명목이 생긴다. 이것이 (아베 내각이) 이번 사태를 일으킨 역사적 원인이다.”



한국도 일본도 총합적 출구전략 결여



김대중 전 대통령(왼쪽)은 1998년 일본을 국빈 방문해 오부치 게이조 당시 일본 총리와 정상회담을 했다.
아베로선 전임 박근혜 정부 때 과거사에 관한 합의를 이뤘다고 생각했는데, 문재인 정부가 다시 가지고 나오니까 약속위반이라고 여기는 듯하다.

“박근혜 대통령 때 일본과 맺었던 합의는 문제가 많았다고 생각한다. 그 후에 문재인 정부가 파기하는 과정도 저래서는 안 되는데 싶은 점이 있었다. 지난해 10월 대법원의 강제징용 피해자 손해배상 판결이 나오고 11월 화해·치유재단 해산 결정이 나왔다. 시기적으로도 일본 입장에서는 (연속적으로 발생하니까) 안 좋았을 것이다. ‘우리는 정의롭다’는 의식에서 아마추어적으로 일처리를 했다.”

아마추어적이라고 했는데 조금 더 구체적으로 설명해 달라.

“본질을 확실하게 하는 것에서부터 대책이 바뀐다. 나는 우리 정부가 본질을 벗어나고 있다고 생각한다. 아베가 이런 일을 벌인 것은 1석 3조(돌멩이 1개로 3마리의 새를 사냥)를 노린 것이다. 하나는 아까 말한 역사적 측면이다. 일본 우익은 과거 군국주의로 되돌아가고 싶은 것이다. 한마디로 과거사 문제에 대해 한국의 입을 닥치게 하고 싶은 것이다. 그러기 위해선 한국이 꼼짝 못할 카드로 입을 막자는 시도였다.”

경제적 노림수도 있을 것 같다.

“또 하나는 미국이 경제적으로 ‘중국이 더 크기 전에 때려잡자’고 나서는 것처럼, 일본을 캐치업(추격)하는 한국 경제를 이때 때려잡자는 계산이다. 전자산업만 해도 소니, 도시바 등이 일본의 상징이었는데 한국의 삼성, LG에 깨졌다. 메모리 반도체에 이어 비메모리까지 한국이 진입하니 위기감이 컸을 것이다.”

일본이 ‘경제전쟁’을 감행한 마지막 노림수는 무엇인가?

“동북아의 질서재편이 일어나고 있는데 일본만 소외될 수 없다는 점이다. 일본은 북한과 수교도 하고, 동북아 정세 속에서 자신의 역할을 가지려 한다. 또한 한국이 중국과 미·일 사이에서 어느 편인가를 확인하고 싶은 점도 있다.”

역사, 경제, 국제정치를 결합할 때 일본의 의도가 제대로 보이겠다.

“일본은 세 가지 싸움을 하려는 것이다. 그런데 역사 쪽 사람들은 역사적 측면만 본다. 경제 쪽 사람들도 역사의 중요성을 모른다. 또 동북아 정세를 논하는 사람들은 앞의 두 가지를 중시하지 않는다. 이 세 가지를 종합적으로 보는 전략이 없다. 경제하는 사람들 중에선 이렇게 말한다. ‘일본한테 배상 받는 것이 뭐가 중요하냐? 한국 정부가 해주자.’ 역사하는 사람들은 ‘한국이 강경하게 역사의식을 끄집어내야 한다’는 쪽만 생각한다.”

일본도 한국을 총합적으로 보지 못하긴 매한가지 아닌가?

“일본도 마찬가지로 이 세 가지가 꼬여 있다. 수상(아베 총리)과 경제 관료(세코 히로시게 경제산업상)가 한통속이지만 사실 두 가지 논리가 부딪히고 있다. (경제 관료는) 안보를 위한 수출관리의 재검토라고 이야기하는데 아베는 한국 대법원의 강제징용 판결을 강조하고 있다. 일본이 (수출규제의 이유로) 역사문제를 결부시키는 것에 대해 WTO(세계무역기구)의 벽을 넘지 못할 것이다. 일본도, 한국도 이 세 가지에 대한 종합전략이 안 나오고 있다.”

일본도 오래 못 가는 것 아닌가? 국제적 지지도 못 얻는 데다가 자국 기업의 피해까지 발생할 텐데.

“삼성, LG에 팔던 부품, 소재를 못 팔면 일본의 수출도 안 좋아지는 측면이 있다. 그러나 일본은 삼성이 아니라도 일본 국내, 대만, 미국 등에 수출시장을 열 수 있다. 안심할 순 없다.”



“일본 국민을 우리 정부가 놓쳤다”



덕수궁 등 서울시 중구 일대에 설치됐던 ‘NO 재팬’ 깃발은 시민들의 항의로 채 하루도 지나지 않아 철거됐다. / 사진:연합뉴스
아직까진 우리 정부도 일본에 강경한 스탠스로 나가고 있다.

“한국에서 나온 대안으로 역사적 측면에선 ‘1+1’, 경제적 측면에선 소재 국산화, 국제정치 측면에선 동북아 정세에 일본에 발언권을 강화할 기회 등을 들 수 있다. ‘1+1’은 1965년의 일본으로부터 청구권 자금을 가져와서 이득을 본 한국 기업들(대표적으로 포스코)과 신일본제철 같은 (전범기업) 일본 기업들이 강제징용 피해자에게 돈을 내주는 방법이다. 나는 대법원 재판의 정신을 잘못 이해해서 이런 제안이 나온다고 생각한다. 대법원은 ‘(1965년 한·일 협정을 통해) 우리가 청구권 자금은 받았지만, 본질적으로 일본 식민지배의 합법성을 전제로 삼았던 것’으로 본 것이다.”

1965년의 한·일 협정으로 개인청구권이 소멸되는지 여부에 관해선 큰 틀에서 3가지 해석이 있다. ▷일본이 강제동원의 법적 배상을 원천적으로 부인한 이상, 개인 청구권은 소멸되지 않았다. ▷협정에 개인 청구권이 포함됐지만 (이는 국가가 외교적 보호를 포기한 것이라) 개인 차원의 청구권은 행사 가능하다. ▷협정으로 개인 청구권은 소멸됐다. 피해 국민에게 한국 정부가 보상해야 한다. 대법관 다수 의견은 첫 번째였고, 김 전 장관도 이와 결을 같이한다고 볼 수 있다. 일본도 이를 줄곧 인정했지만 2005년 위안부 문제에 대한 뉴욕지방법원의 재판문제에 임하면서부터 세 번째 입장으로 전환했다.

‘1!’이 대안이 아니라면 어떻게 해야 되나?

“포스코와 일본 기업에 돈을 내라는 1+1은 본질을 놓쳤다고 생각한다. 차라리 일본에 ‘식민 통치의 불법성을 인정해라. 그러면 돈을 안 받고 우리 정부의 재정으로 줄 수 있다.’ 중국의 덩샤오핑이 이러지 않았는가. 차라리 이러면 떳떳하다. 1+1에 플러스알파를 논하는 구차한 말을 왜 하는가.”

이 과정에서 적반하장 격으로 일본의 과오가 가려지고 있다.

“강제징용과 위안부 문제는 반인도적인 죄다. 그 죄를 보상해야 한다. 독일은 했지 않나. 그런데 지금 아베는 보상을 하기는커녕 오히려 보복을 가하고 있다. WTO (자유무역 정신에 입각한) 규정과도 위반된다. 전후 세계질서를 거스르는 세계사적인 일이다.”

그렇다면 상황이 길어지더라도 대치해야 하나?

“그야말로 식민지 이후 한·일 간 최대의 싸움이 붙었다. 금방 끝나는 싸움이 아니라고 그 싸움에서 물러설 순 없지 않나.”

김 전 장관은 역사 문제에 관해선 ‘원칙론자’에 속한다. 일본과 얽힌 경제와 국제정치 문제에 관해서 실리적 접근을 중시하는 것과 대비된다. 그 사이에서 어떻게 역동적 균형을 잡느냐가 한·일 관계 회복의 열쇠일 것이다.



“이제 가마우지(韓)는 어부(日)한테 조정당하지 않아”



김영호 전 산자부 장관은 ‘1965년 체제’를 조정할 한·일 간 합의를 기다리고 있다.
일본 국민의 한국에 대한 정서는 어떤가?

“평화헌법을 지키자는 여론조사를 해보면 (진보 성향인) [아사히신문]이든 (보수 성향인) [요미우리신문]이든 과반수가 지지한다. 한국이나 아시아에 대해 과거 일본이 사과해야 한다는 여론도 70%가 넘는다. 그런데 아베의 보복정책에 관한 지지도는 80%가 넘는다. 그러니까 한국 편으로 끌어들일 수 있는 일본 국민을 우리 정부가 놓쳤다고 생각한다. 한국 정부에 ‘설명책임’을 묻고 싶다.”

문 대통령은 “다시는 일본에 지지 않겠다”고 말했다.

“청와대는 옳다고만 생각한다. 문 대통령이 ‘(수출규제 이후의) 모든 책임은 일본이 져야 한다’고 말했을 때 일본의 모든 신문에 ‘한국 대통령의 무책임한 책임전가’로 나왔다. 그래서 내가 <아사히신문> 측에 물어보니 이렇게 얘기하더라. ‘지금 대법원 대법관을 누가 임명했느냐? 대법원이 대통령의 적폐청산 대상 중 하나였다. 그래놓고 삼권분립이니까 정부는 개입 못 한다는 말 뒤로 숨을 수 있느냐?’라고 생각하고 있다.”

그런 일본 내 정서가 7월 자민당의 참의원 선거 승리로 표출됐다. ‘우리가 옳으니 말하지 않아도 알 것’이 아니라 디테일하게 일본 국민에게 설명하지 않은 영향도 있겠다.

“일본 사람들 사이에 ‘사과 피로증’이 있는 것도 사실이다. 그러나 일본은 미국에 했던 것처럼 의회 결의로 사과한 적이 없다. (한국에 관한 과거사 반성에 대해) 법적인 조치가 아니라 수상들이 말 한마디 하는 것으로 끝나버렸다.”

일본은 ‘한국 정부가 자꾸 골대를 옮긴다’고 주장한다.

“설명책임을 다하지 못하면 일본 국민의 (공감을) 다 뺏긴다. 우리나라에서도 지금 ‘일본과 싸우는데 한국 정부를 욕하면 어떡하느냐’라는 정서가 쫙 깔려 있다. 그러나 나는 우리 스스로가 책임을 찾고 개선해야 할 것이 있다고 생각한다. 일본이 변화하기만 기다리면 되겠나.”

김 전 장관은 ‘가마우지 경제이론’의 주창자다. 1982년 한국 경제를 가마우지에 비유했다. 가마우지는 목줄(일본 부품·소재 산업)에 묶여 물고기(완제품)를 잡아도 삼키지 못하고 곧바로 어부(일본)에게 바친다. 한국 수출 구조의 취약점을 꿰뚫은 통찰이었다. 김 전 장관은 일본 와세다대학 100주년 기념 심포지엄에서 이 학설을 발표했다. 1988년 일본국제경제학회는 이를 검토해 이론의 적합성을 인정했고 연보에 실었다.

경제 얘기를 해보자. 2019년 시점에도 가마우지 경제 이론은 유효한가?

“거시적으로는 지금까지도 그런 측면이 강하다. 한국의 일본에서 가져다 쓴 부품, 소재의 누적 합계가 7조원이다. 그러나 이제 한국에서 기술혁신이 됐다. 삼성 반도체가 리드를 해서 오히려 일본의 반도체 산업이 성장하고 있다고 볼 수 있다. 가마우지 이론에서 진화한 것이다. 이제 가마우지(한국)는 어부(일본)한테 조정당하지 않는다.”

일본은 부품, 소재 산업을 무기화하고 있다.

“한마디로 일본은 한국 수출을 경제산업성이 장악해 수돗물처럼 컨트롤하겠다는 중상주의적 무역 형태를 원한다. 반도체 3가지 품목(고순도 불화수소, 플루오린 폴리이미드, 포토 레지스트) 중 포토 레지스트는 국산화를 못 한다고 전문가들은 보더라. 나머지는 국산화 내지는 대체 가능하리라고 보더라. 그러나 시간이 걸릴 것이다.”

우리가 국산화를 할 수 있을까?

“정부가 앞으로 7조8000억원을 들여서 국산화를 하겠다고 한다. 2003년 노무현 정부 때 부품 국산화는 어느 정도 했다. 그러나 소재 국산화는 못했다. 소재 국산화까지 20년은 걸린다. 그래서 아무도 안 한다. 기초 과학에 엄청난 투자를 해야 되는데 (임기 중에 안 되는 일이니) 남 좋은 일만 시키는 것이라고 여긴다. 기업도 (당장의 이득으로 돌아오지 않으니) 안 한다. 이번에 나온 투자 계획도 정부 주도형이다. 기업은 ‘어디 해봐라’라는 냉소적인 반응이다.”



“과거사에 관해 미국은 우리의 우군 아니야”
그럼 정부가 산업을 도울 수 있는 방편은 무엇인가?

“갑자기 뜬구름 잡는 얘기처럼 하지 말고, 혁신성장 5개년 계획을 세워서 기업 주도로 할 수 있도록 관련법을 개정해야 한다. 화학물질등록평가법 같은 것은 규제 완화를 해줘야 한다. 이런 큰 문제 앞에서는 야당과도 빅딜을 해서 적극적인 협력을 얻어야 한다. 최근에 기업체 사람들을 만나면 정부에 대한 반감이 정말 크더라. 아찔할 지경이다.”

대기업도 힘들겠지만 중소기업은 생사의 갈림길에 서 있는 곳이 적지 않다.

“우리나라에서 부품, 소재가 발달 안 됐다는 것은 다시 말해서 중소기업이 그만큼 발전하지 못했다는 이야기가 된다. 대기업의 중소기업 기술 탈취, 불공정거래를 해결하라고 공정거래위원회가 있다. 그러나 그동안 공정위가 뭐를 했는가? 중소벤처기업부가 뭐를 했는가?”

어디부터 살펴야 될까?

“공정위에 걸려 있는 불공정거래 건수가 지금 2000건이다. 이것은 대기업이 탐을 내는 기술이다. 이것을 뺏으려고 하다가 싸움이 났다는 것이다. 이게 의미하는 것은 우리 중소기업의 기술이 좋다는 것이다. 이제는 민간 주도가 아니면 절대 안 된다. 산(産)·학(學)협력은 둘이 애정이 없는데 데이트하면 돈 준다는 것이다. 이제는 결혼시켜서 애도 낳게 제대로 해봤으면 좋겠다.”

국제정치 관점에서 미국 이야기를 안 할 수가 없다. 트럼프 미국 행정부는 한·일 간 경제 갈등을 어떻게 보고 있을까?

“문제는 (미·일 간) 샌프란시스코 강화조약(1951년)에 있다. 한·일 간 ‘65년 체제’가 나온 근본이다. 샌프란시스코 조약에서 미국은 한국의 독립을 인정했다. 그러나 과거 일본의 식민지 지배에 대해선 책임을 묻지 못한다고 금지해놨다. 이것은 UN 정신에 위반된다.”

결국 샌프란시스코 체제의 연장선상에서 해석해야 한다는 뜻인가?

“샌프란시스코 체제는 ‘식민지 문제에 대해선 노터치 하라’는 데에서 출발했다. 나는 한·미 동맹이 중요하다고 생각하는 사람이지만 강제징용 문제에 대해서 미국이 우리의 우군이라고 생각하면 안 된다.”

강상중 도쿄대 명예교수는 8월 7일 국회 의원회관에서 강연을 했다. 그는 시민사회의 일본산 제품 불매운동, 일본 여행 보이콧 움직임에 대해 “결코 한국과 일본을 위한 길이 아니다”라고 말했다.

“아주 중요한 부분이다. 안중근 의사의 ‘동양평화론’을 보면 반일(反日) 감정이 없다. ‘일본인이 미워서 이토 히로부미를 암살한 것이 아니었다. 이토를 따라가다간 일본이 폭삭 망한다. 그 길로 가지 않도록 하기 위해 이토를 죽인 것이다. 일본 사람들은 머지않아 나를 고마워할 것이다. 안중근의 날을 만들어서 나를 좋아할 것이다.’ 이렇게까지 생각했다. 또 1919년 3·1운동 독립선언문을 보면 ‘독립 없는 곳에 평화 없다’고 말하지만 반일 개념은 없다. 우리가 일본을 뛰어넘기(克日) 위해 반일 감정을 내세우는 것은 중요하지 않다.”

어찌 보면 시민사회가 정치권보다 더 성숙한 것 같다.

“이번에 ‘NO 재팬’을 ‘NO 아베’로 바꾼 것은 한국 시민의 승리다. 나는 서울 중구청이 건 ‘NO 재팬’ 깃발을 시민들의 항의로 내린 날을 1라운드에서 2라운드로 넘어간 분기점이라고 생각한다.”

왜 그런가?

“그날 이후로 진정이 됐고, 갈등은 관리국면으로 접어들었다. 1라운드에서는 대통령이 나섰지만 2라운드부터는 총리·장관·수석들이 나서야 한다. 대통령은 사자처럼 뒤에 있으라고 말하고 싶다.”

한국 정부도 일본을 화이트리스트에서 제외시키는 맞불 조치를 취하려 하고 있다.

“화이트리스트에서 일본을 빼면 우리가 무슨 변명을 하더라도 그것은 복수라고 생각한다. 한국이 일본과 똑같이 복수로 가면 안 된다. 나는 한국이 민주주의의 우위를 내세웠으면 한다. 사실 일본을 화이트리스트에서 제외해봤자 명분도, 실익도 없다. 한국이 자유무역과 민주주의의 수호자라는 이미지를 지키는 쪽으로 갔으면 좋겠다. 이게 반일보다 효과가 더 크다. 국산화도 해야겠지만 일본과의 상생은 여전히 필요하다.”



‘오래된 미래’가 된 新한·일 체제대화를 마친 뒤 김 전 장관은 “인터뷰를 준비하다가 이 원고를 오랜만에 찾았다”며 건네줬다. 경북대 경제학과 교수 시절(1990년대 후반으로 추정) 썼던 ‘65년 체제의 재조정’이라는 제목의 글이었다. 일부를 발췌하면 이렇다. ‘냉전이 끝났다. 한국의 군사독재 시대가 끝났다. 일본의 자민당 지배 체제가 붕괴됐다. 65년 체제의 조정은 불가피한 것이 됐다. 지금은 그러한 재조정의 진통기라고 할 수 있다.’, ‘냉전 후 사태는 낙관적인 것만이 아니다. 일본 사회의 보수화 경향이 진행되고 있다는 점에서 단기적인 외교의 승부 차원에서가 아니라 新한·일 체제 구축에 대한 장대한 비전을 갖고 전략적으로 접근해야 할 것이다.’

그로부터 20여 년이 흘렀는데도 그때의 구상들은 여전히 유효하다. 그만큼 한·일 관계는 진전이 어렵다는 반증이기도 하다. 밤이 깊을수록 새벽이 가깝다고 했다. 새벽은 오고 있는가.


글 김영준 월간중앙 기자 kim.youngjoon1@joongang.co.kr / 사진 박종근 기자 jokepark@joongang.co.kr / 녹취 정리 박호수 월간중앙 인턴기자



[출처: 중앙일보] [월간중앙] 김영호 前 산자부 장관이 본 韓·日 경제전쟁의 본질 - "한국 정부, 설명책임 다해 일본 시민 마음 얻어야"

이영훈 교수, 조정래의 '아리랑' 근거 비판 - 중앙일보



이영훈 교수, 조정래의 '아리랑' 근거 비판 - 중앙일보




이영훈 교수, 조정래의 '아리랑' 근거 비판
[중앙일보] 입력 2007.05.29




이영훈(55.서울대 경제학과) 교수가 소설가 조정래(64)씨의 역사소설 '아리랑'(전12권)의 역사적 근거를 비판하고 나서 논란이 일고 있다. 이 교수는 29일 출간될 뉴라이트 기관지 '시대정신'(2007 여름호)에 '광기 서린 증오의 역사소설가 조정래-대하소설 '아리랑'을 중심으로'란 글을 실었다.

"주무대 김제평야는 원래 황무지 일제 수리사업 때문에 옥토로"'태백산맥'(전10권)의 저자이기도 한 조씨는 우리 시대를 대표하는 진보 성향의 소설가. '아리랑'은 1904~45년간 식민지 시기를 배경으로, 일제의 침략.수탈과 그에 맞선 우리 민족의 수난.저항 과정 등을 장대하게 그린 대하소설이다. '아리랑'은 올해초 100쇄(330만부)를 돌파했다.

한국 경제사를 전공한 이 교수는 뉴라이트 교과서포럼의 공동대표이자, '식민지 근대화론'의 논리를 개발해 온 낙성대연구소 소장이다.

이 교수는 먼저 '아리랑'에 묘사된 '조선경찰령'의 역사적 사실 여부를 따졌다. 소설에는 지주를 크게 다치게 한 차갑수라는 농민을 김제경찰서 죽산주재소장이 마을 당산나무에 결박하고는 '조선경찰령'에 따라 즉결 총살한 것으로 돼있다. 이와 관련 이 교수는 "소설은 토지조사사업 전 기간에 걸쳐 이런 사례가 전국적으로 4000여 건이나 되었다고 했지만, '조선경찰령'따위의 법령은 존재하지 않았다"고 주장했다.


'아리랑'의 주무대인 김제평야가 소설에서처럼 원래부터 비옥한 곡창지대가 아니라 황무지였다는 주장도 내놨다. 그는 "1910년대까지 곳곳에 갈대가 무성했던 황량한 들판이 오늘과 같은 풍요로운 곡창지대로 변한 것은 식민지기에 걸친 수리사업 때문이었다"면서 "김제평야 일대는 한국 근대 수리사업의 발상지"라고 강조했다. 이 교수는 또 1944년 지시마(千島) 비행장공사 당시 조선인 노무자 1000명이 몰살당했다는 내용은 '아리랑'에서 가장 참혹한 장면으로 묘사되고 있지만, 그와 같은 학살은 없었다고 주장했다.

이 교수는 "일제하 식민지기는 수난과 모멸의 시대였지만, 새로운 학습과 성취의 시대이기도 했다"고 끝을 맺었다.

조정래 작가의 반론을 듣기 위해 전화를 했다. 작가 측은 "조 선생님이 지방에 내려가 다른 글을 쓰고 있다"며 "사실에 근거하지 않은 얘기를 쓴 적이 없다"는 작가의 반론을 대신 전했다. 작가 측은 또 "'김제군사'만 봐도 장례식까지 허가받고 해야했던 '조선경찰령'이야기가 다 나오고, 김제 지역엔 백제시대부터 '벽골제'라는 국내 최대의 수리시설이 있던 기름진 곡창지대였다"는 반론도 덧붙였다.

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The Hidden Pleasures of Life Theodore Zeldin



The Hidden Pleasures of Life: A New Way of Remembering the Past and Imagining the Future by Theodore Zeldin | Goodreads




A guide to new ambitions in work, relationships and learning

Table of Contents:

  1. What is the great adventure of our time? 
  2. What is a wasted life? 
  3. How can people lose their illusions about themselves? 
  4. What alternatives are there to being a rebel? 
  5. What can the poor tell the rich? 
  6. What could the rich tell the poor? 
  7. How many ways of committing suicide are there? 
  8. How can an unbeliever understand a believer? 
  9. How can a religion change?
  10. How can prejudices be overcome? 
  11. How else can one think about the future, apart from trying to predict it or worrying about it? 
  12. Is ridicule the most effective form of non-violent protest? 
  13. How does one acquire a sense of humour? 
  14. What stops people feeling completely at home in their own country? 
  15. How many nations can one love at the same time? 
  16. Why do so many people feel unappreciated, unloved and only half alive? 
  17. How else might women and men treat one another? 
  18. What can replace the shortage of soul-mates? 
  19. Is another kind of sexual revolution achievable? 
  20. What can artists aim for beyond self-expression? 
  21. What is more interesting than becoming a leader? 
  22. What is the point of working so hard? 
  23. Are there more amusing ways of earning a living? 
  24. What else can one do in a hotel? 
  25. What more can the young ask of their elders? 
  26. Is remaining young at heart enough to avoid becoming old?
  27. What is worth knowing? 
  28. What does it mean to be alive? 
  29. Where can one find nourishment for the mind? 



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The story of a search for a new art of living. How can one escape from work colleagues who are bores and from organisations that thrive on stress? What new priorities can people give to their private lives? When the romantic ideal is disappointing, how else can affections be cultivated? If only a few can become rich, what substitute is there for dropping out? If religions...more

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Mar 30, 2016Suha Hallab rated it liked it
To me, reading this book was like having a long long conversation with someone you love in the middle of the night about all the crazy curious questions you might have… a deep rich conversation…
So, this book represents 28 essays each titled by a question about a certain thing of which I’ll mention the ones I liked: 

what is a wasted life? 
How can a religion change? 
Why do so many people feel unappreciated, unloved and only half alive? 
What is the point of working so hard? 
What is worth knowing?
 and the best of the questions was, 

what does it mean to be alive?



Briefing about the author, he is a Russian-Jewish scholar at Oxford, born in 1933 in جبل الكرمل in Palestine. He and his parents moved to the UK where he pursued his studies in philosophy, history and latin. His best work was a 2000 pages book “The French” that was divided into 5 volumes: Ambition &amp; Love, Intellect &amp; Pride, Taste &amp; Corruption, Politics &amp; Anger and Anxiety &amp; Hypocricy. He also wrote a replica of Orwell 1984 of how would the world look like if all desires are achieved under the title of “Happiness”.

This book is published in May 2015, and the author was 81 years and discusses with us the 28 different topics as if he s thinking out loud and talking to you as a friend however, as an 81 year old friend with expertise in life and writing based on huge array of sources and cultures. 

For example, in his chapter titled what is worth knowing, I loved how he described that we should be nourished by knowledge and not bloated; nowadays many of us are just obese with knowledge it makes us sick. What use of information if there is no wisdom? He spoke about history as fiction, since past can never be told unless it’s from the perception of the historian… what matters is not how much knowledge we have but what we do with our knowledge, it is more like painting a picture which gradually takes shape.

And in the question of How can a religion change, he speaks about different religions, even the ones you wouldn’t expect to hear about like Zoroastrianism, he also quotes Islamic and Christian shcolars and Chinese and indian religions. He laments the hostility created by religions and that most of hostility is due to people telling each other how to behave. In india, there are 2.5 million places of worship and only 75000 hospitals.
Mainly, the writer would want a better world where people interact more in a meaningful way. He wants the hotels to become a hub for learning about each other whether we’re guests, having dinner or simply work there. In his world, Nobel prizes would be given to humorists instead of economists and the insurance companies would create opportunities for the young instead of creating fear of the old. 

Regarding the style, the writing style is pretty simple, the book is fancy and the cover design is nice too. I also liked the notes on the side of each page, the ideas that should be remembered for example: “A family of the mind” , “Einstein and God”, competition “an awful kind of salvery”. 

Personally, this book did not add anything to me. However it made me feel like I am sitting with an old friend at midnight with a glass of wine, and just talking y. It also made me think of my own answers and my own understanding of these topics as I also discussed them with my own friends. On the other hand, there are big parts of the book that feels like he just saying things to say, like a friend who is happy sharing what’s on his mind. What I also disagree with, is him stressing on interaction as nourishment, hence the people who prefer to spend time alone and not engage in any sort of conversation are less alive. In my opinion it is the opposite.
I do recommend as a light read, don’t expect to learn but to have a conversation through this book. 




Nov 13, 2016Virditas rated it it was amazing
This is a fantastic book. Zeldin is an engineer of optimism, change, and openness. If this book were required reading for everyone, we would live in a very different world. This is a human book about human scaled possibilities. Please read this.
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Mar 25, 2018nedim rated it it was amazing · review of another edition
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one of the most impressive books I've read lately.
the book says "try to see all the colors in the world"
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Jul 02, 2016Neglectedbooks rated it really liked it · review of another edition
Building on his 1998 book, Conversation: How Talk Can Change Our Livesand his Conversation Menu project, Zeldin offers 29 essays in which he discusses questions ranging from "What is the great adventure of our time?" and "What is a wasted life?" to "What is the point of working so hard?" and "What is worth knowing?"

In most, he starts by introducing a person-- sometimes someone famous from the past (the painter Lucian Freud, the poet and novelist Rabindranath Tagore), sometimes someone from the present (Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad), sometimes someone relatively obscure (the Indian memoirist Haimabati Sen)--and describing some aspect of his life and the choices he made. He then considers the larger questions that one might draw from each specific example and the choices they might inspire in us as individuals or as a society.

This is not a book to read if you're looking for simple answers, or even answers at all. Zeldin is really simply interested in opening doors and windows, in stimulating us to ask our own questions. A historian by training, Zeldin is very attuned to the importance of our pasts on our futures: "Humans have never yet created something out of nothing": "No-one lives only in the present"; "Knowledge is never raw."

Some reader may find this book extremely frustrating, as Zeldin often leaves one with more questions than answers. This is, however, his intent:


I hope that eavesdropping on my conversations will make my readers want to interrupt and disagree, and feel impelled to start their own book, from their own perspective, evoking the past that is most meaningful to them, and imagining a future that would give more hope to the present.

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May 27, 2017Lisa rated it really liked it · review of another edition
Some wonderful ideas, things to contemplate, especially about being more open to other people's ideas, disagreements, contradictions. I am even more inclined to get out and meet new people, talk to them about what they've experienced, what they've learnt....
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Jun 14, 2019Sebastian Beltrán rated it it was amazing · review of another edition
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This book is a collection of 28 essays, each posing a question that "most of us leave half-answered in the back of our minds", such as "What is a wasted life?","How many ways of committing suicide are there?" or "What else can one do in a hotel?". Theodore Zeldin uses these themes as a vantage point from which he starts an argument. He manages to write a book that doesn't feel like a lecture and monologue but more like an intimate and lengthy conversation with a good friend over the dinner table.

A central theme of his and also his patent recipe for many of our problems are conversations. He discusses our lack of them, how our environment whether in our jobs or family hinders them and thinks about alternative ways in which we could increase the quality of our social interactions. In my favorite chapter Nr. 24 "What else can one do in a Hotel" he relates the life of the Russian Author Fjodor Dostojewski and how his four years in Siberia changed the way the thought of the poor and criminals because he got to know them and changed his way of talking with them. Dostojewski felt initially isolated, surrounded by strangers but after talking to them noticed that he had much to learn. From there on Zeldin draws a parallel to the way modern hotels are also quite isolated island. They may offer accommodation but seldom do they offer connection. How else might we relate to the chambermaids instead of ignoring them on the way out ? Isn't there a more exciting way of getting to know a foreign country instead of only looking at monuments of old but never speaking to an inhabitant of now?

What I've really liked is the way in which Zeldin uses history. He doesn't just see history as a collection of events in succession, or a series of stages but rather as a toolbox. He poses a question and then goes on to look at how people from other periods and lands have dealt with this problem. But this isn't to say that he draws on positive examples on how you should live, much rather he intends to show what the possibilites are.

Although Zeldin has said in interviews that he doesn't want to be called philosopher or historian, in my eyes he outshines many members of both professions. This book brings to light the good aspect of philosophy that I so like to read. Not at all theoretical, splitting hairs about the use of this or that technical term but focused on the practical aspects. Not on how you shouldthink differently, but on how you could.

What I wouldn't give to be even half as fluid in thought, open to new ways of thinking and humble with 81 years of age as Zeldin appears to be. He is what I would call in the discordian fashion a Catmatist, the opposite of a dogmatist. Instead of holding to a certain belief, no matter what evidence presents itself, he stresses the importance of the ambiguity of facts, how belief and religion changed. On p. 378 he describes his way of thinking as:
"Every time i encounter an object, a person or an experience, I do not see only it, but also how else it could be. I am always asking Myself: How could it be otherwise? This is the question that has made humans what they are today, for without it we would still be living in the tree-tops."

My biggest issue with this book is that although I really liked reading it, I found it quite challenging to think his questions through for myself and putting my thoughts and his suggestions into practice. Maybe it is because his discussion of the question that he puts forth is filled with a lifetime of learning, thinking and wisdom, making any answer that I come up with seem mostly inadequate in my mind. Maybe this will change with time as my thoughts mature. Maybe the nature of these sorts of questions is that your response will always fall short. (less)
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Jul 02, 2016Neglectedbooks rated it really liked it · review of another edition
Building on his 1998 book, Conversation: How Talk Can Change Our Livesand his Conversation Menu project, Zeldin offers 29 essays in which he discusses questions ranging from "What is the great adventure of our time?" and "What is a wasted life?" to "What is the point of working so hard?" and "What is worth knowing?"

In most, he starts by introducing a person-- sometimes someone famous from the past (the painter Lucian Freud, the poet and novelist Rabindranath Tagore), sometimes someone from the present (Ikea founder Ingvar Kamprad), sometimes someone relatively obscure (the Indian memoirist Haimabati Sen)--and describing some aspect of his life and the choices he made. He then considers the larger questions that one might draw from each specific example and the choices they might inspire in us as individuals or as a society.

This is not a book to read if you're looking for simple answers, or even answers at all. Zeldin is really simply interested in opening doors and windows, in stimulating us to ask our own questions. A historian by training, Zeldin is very attuned to the importance of our pasts on our futures: "Humans have never yet created something out of nothing": "No-one lives only in the present"; "Knowledge is never raw."

Some reader may find this book extremely frustrating, as Zeldin often leaves one with more questions than answers. This is, however, his intent:


I hope that eavesdropping on my conversations will make my readers want to interrupt and disagree, and feel impelled to start their own book, from their own perspective, evoking the past that is most meaningful to them, and imagining a future that would give more hope to the present.

File Under: Mind Opener (less)
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May 27, 2017Lisa rated it really liked it · review of another edition
Some wonderful ideas, things to contemplate, especially about being more open to other people's ideas, disagreements, contradictions. I am even more inclined to get out and meet new people, talk to them about what they've experienced, what they've learnt....
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Jun 14, 2019Sebastian Beltrán rated it it was amazing · review of another edition
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This book is a collection of 28 essays, each posing a question that "most of us leave half-answered in the back of our minds", such as "What is a wasted life?","How many ways of committing suicide are there?" or "What else can one do in a hotel?". Theodore Zeldin uses these themes as a vantage point from which he starts an argument. He manages to write a book that doesn't feel like a lecture and monologue but more like an intimate and lengthy conversation with a good friend over the dinner table.

A central theme of his and also his patent recipe for many of our problems are conversations. He discusses our lack of them, how our environment whether in our jobs or family hinders them and thinks about alternative ways in which we could increase the quality of our social interactions. In my favorite chapter Nr. 24 "What else can one do in a Hotel" he relates the life of the Russian Author Fjodor Dostojewski and how his four years in Siberia changed the way the thought of the poor and criminals because he got to know them and changed his way of talking with them. Dostojewski felt initially isolated, surrounded by strangers but after talking to them noticed that he had much to learn. From there on Zeldin draws a parallel to the way modern hotels are also quite isolated island. They may offer accommodation but seldom do they offer connection. How else might we relate to the chambermaids instead of ignoring them on the way out ? Isn't there a more exciting way of getting to know a foreign country instead of only looking at monuments of old but never speaking to an inhabitant of now?

What I've really liked is the way in which Zeldin uses history. He doesn't just see history as a collection of events in succession, or a series of stages but rather as a toolbox. He poses a question and then goes on to look at how people from other periods and lands have dealt with this problem. But this isn't to say that he draws on positive examples on how you should live, much rather he intends to show what the possibilites are.

Although Zeldin has said in interviews that he doesn't want to be called philosopher or historian, in my eyes he outshines many members of both professions. This book brings to light the good aspect of philosophy that I so like to read. Not at all theoretical, splitting hairs about the use of this or that technical term but focused on the practical aspects. Not on how you shouldthink differently, but on how you could.

What I wouldn't give to be even half as fluid in thought, open to new ways of thinking and humble with 81 years of age as Zeldin appears to be. He is what I would call in the discordian fashion a Catmatist, the opposite of a dogmatist. Instead of holding to a certain belief, no matter what evidence presents itself, he stresses the importance of the ambiguity of facts, how belief and religion changed. On p. 378 he describes his way of thinking as:
"Every time i encounter an object, a person or an experience, I do not see only it, but also how else it could be. I am always asking Myself: How could it be otherwise? This is the question that has made humans what they are today, for without it we would still be living in the tree-tops."

My biggest issue with this book is that although I really liked reading it, I found it quite challenging to think his questions through for myself and putting my thoughts and his suggestions into practice. Maybe it is because his discussion of the question that he puts forth is filled with a lifetime of learning, thinking and wisdom, making any answer that I come up with seem mostly inadequate in my mind. Maybe this will change with time as my thoughts mature. Maybe the nature of these sorts of questions is that your response will always fall short. (less)
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Jul 12, 2017Venky rated it liked it · review of another edition
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The 81 year old historian and philosopher Theodore Zeldin in a series of conversational essays, tackles head on the vicissitudes and woes faced by mankind during the course of living. This he does in an unconventional manner. Every Chapter in his book "The Hidden Pleasures of Life" begins with a probing and provocative question. Oscillating between the arcane and the obvious, it is as though Zeldin conceives each question after being racked by a bout of epiphany. One may also forgive the reader for harbouring a perception that Zeldin throughout the course of the book is zealously embarking on a quest to discover eternal serendipity and egging the reader on for company.

Some of the questions for which Zeldin tries to wean out introspective answers are:

What is a wasted life?
What can the poor tell the rich?
Is another kind of sexual revolution achievable? What is worth knowing?
What does it mean to be alive?
What can the rich teach the poor?
What is the point of working as hard as one is currently working?
What else can one do in a hotel?

In answering each of the questions, Zeldin takes inspiration from an eclectic mix of personalities, past, present and future. For example in a Chapter where Zeldin attempts to understand the intricacies surrounding stereotypical prejudices, he resorts to the life and works of the Nobel Laureate Rabindranath Tagore who aimed to destroy class conventions and caste hierarchies by establishing a non-conventional educational institution and naming it “Shantiniketan” or “The Abode of Peace”. The philosopher poet also spawned a cultural and social revolution through his works which had at its core bridging the schism of perception that separated the ways of the East from the Western style of living.

Similarly in a Chapter concentrating on the perils of ignorance, Zeldin quotes the example of the great and inveterate Iranian traveler of the 19th Century Hajj Sayyah who with a view to escaping a forced marriage, left home and explored myriad realms, kingdoms, Caliphates and countries, both accumulating and imparting wisdom during the course of his extraordinary circumlocution of the world. “The Hidden Pleasures of Life” spans cultures, seeks inspiration from sources both renowned and remote, and seeks to engage the reader in a honest quest for truth. A truth that would facilitate an escape from the mundane and the monotony that has almost come to represent the modern way of life. Zeldin’s “Hidden Pleasures” is more a plea to introspect than a run-of-the mill self-help manual that promises access to the Holy Grail in 21 easy to follow, practical to implement steps. More than proving solutions, Zeldin teaches exhorts us to pose the right questions. Questions which shape the very manner in which should live as opposed to how we desire and continue to live at present.

Zeldin has been termed the modern day Balzac. It is not surprising to understand why especially after grasping the unique mix of curiosity, concern, and clairvoyance permeating the pages in “The Hidden Pleasures of Life”
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Aug 05, 2019Tony Fitzpatrick rated it liked it
A set of 27 "conversations" with the author, using role models and figures from history to illustrate different approaches to behaviour, lifestyle and beliefs. Interesting but in the end rather frustrating as Professor Zeldin (Wolfson Prize, CBE, Oxford Fellow) reaches few conclusions you can easily take away. Maybe that was the point.

A few nuggets which made me think, especially about the author's rather ambivalent approach to religion. - "I shall not ask you what your religion is. I prefer to ask instead: How do you put into practice whatever beliefs you have?" ..... "His slogan was ‘First a Man, then a Christian’, meaning that an individual needs to start by becoming a person, capable of having fruitful relationships, which could not be found simply by joining a church. For him, Christianity did not originate from the Bible ‘translated from a foreign language’, nor from the commentaries of theologians, but from the behaviour of its adherents. What made a church was neither preaching nor ceremonies but the interaction between its members.".

I also particularly liked the discussion on how people use freedom - "Freedom is not merely a right, but a skill to be acquired, the skill to view the world through different lenses, through lenses other than one’s own, the skill to imagine what no-one has imagined before, to find beauty or meaning or inspiration. Each life is a fable about freedom".

One of his interesting ideas is that some might have a role as an intermediary - "There are alternatives to the ambition to be a leader. One is to be an intermediary, who neither receives nor gives orders and who helps those who have too little knowledge, or money or imagination or opportunity to acquire it from those who have some to spare". Food for thought as an approach in retirement.

Lastly, as the Brexit debate rumbles on I especially enjoyed his view on politicians - "So there are many reasons why the extraordinary number of pathetic people who have been raised to high office have proved to be impervious to ridicule. They are not there to tell the truth, and certainly not the whole truth; they would have to resign in shame if they did; and besides their lies often make people feel better, give courage or hope; they are humorists in their own way too, in that they invent tall stories about their achievements. There can be no winners in this game of tennis balls that explode in the receiver’s face".

Hard work to read, but worth it in the end. (less)
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May 29, 2017Asma rated it really liked it · review of another edition
Zeldin's tone in The Hidden Pleasures is very soothing. There is a certain meticulousness in the questions he asks and explores. He weaves in stories and statistics that are both relevant and enjoyable. It is deeply philosophical that I agreed with what he said, and disagreed with others. The one thing I found lacking while reading the book though, is a definitive stance from Zeldin on these questions. He kind of left it for the readers to decide, and while that's not bad, I was curious to know how he, the writer, would answer these very questions that he posed to us.

This is only a minor frustration though. I enjoyed reading the book, and dwelling on what he put forth.

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Jan 09, 2018LWoods rated it really liked it · review of another edition
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Truly a profound book. Found myself noting whole sentences and paragraphs.
It introduced me to fascinating characters in history who I'd never heard which resulted in me sourcing more information on them.

I loved this book! Granted I sort of idolise Theodore Zeldin, as his books always make me think differently, he certainly won't be to everyone's taste.

I'd liken the book to a 'chef's dining experience'; you don't know what you're being served up at each chapter....that you'd never thought of a topic that way...that you're not sure you're going to like it...but when you think on it, it's actually quite interesting. The ideas are just tasters that leave you wanting to discuss more!

Ultimately this book left me wanting to engage with other people differently.(less)
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May 15, 2017Suzanne rated it really liked it · review of another edition
Reading this book is an enriching experience. Zeldin draws on his exploration of cultures and texts, many from the Orient and ancient, to distill knowledge and wisdom, frequently providing new perspectives on items as diverse as IKEA and American hotels. Particularly interesting to me were his reflections on knowledge, rendered vivid by his analogy with food:"knowledge, like food, tastes and looks different depending on who cooks it and how it is served and what meals the diner has eaten before." This is a book to be indulged in in small sips, leaving time for reflection on the points raised in order to discover and fully appreciate those hidden pleasures. (less)
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Dec 29, 2018Laura Schlosberg rated it really liked it · review of another edition
This is a provocative book to read in spurts. In invites reflection and challenges you to think and live differently, and engage with strangers and those you know with more integrity, courage, and curiosity. “Being alive is not simply a matter of having a heart that beats, it is also being aware of how other hearts beat and other minds think in response to one another.” My only wish for this book was a bibliography listing all the sources fir the quotes.
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Jan 20, 2018Sertac rated it it was amazing
Another incredible book from Zeldin.
Read this book to expand your understanding about humanity, development, history and more...