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18 Teaching permaculture to long term refugees and those returning home

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Teaching permaculture
to long term refugees and those returning home 


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knowledge.

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The students identify the wind direction, and where
they need windbreaks. They learn about the types of trees, how to plant them,
and what benefits they can bring, such as shade, timber, fruits, flowers, bee
fodder and a multitiude of other uses.
As the course continues students develop their own
initiatives. Turning to water collection, they calculate how much rainwater
they can collect from the roofs of sheds, storerooms, and the mosque and
identify where it can be distributed to community gardens during the dry
season. They plan community gardens and small economic land-based incomes.
These were actions taken from a theoretical class.
They captured the vision to transform camp. The students also took the seeds we
gave them, and gave them to others who hadn’t attended the class, and told them
how to plant it. We didn’t ask them to do that.
This year, some of the first new permaculturists will
talk to Internally Displaced People (IDPs) from Mosul who have been in camps
for months and who, before returning to Mosul, will have a permaculture course.
Before these Iraqis return home to their blitzed villages they will meet and
talk with students about the experience of learning permaculture, and what they
can expect to learn.
This is a World Vision, Kurdistan, initiative. It is
the beginning of a project which is the ultimate goal of Permaculture For
Refugees (P4R) and will become refugee-to-refugee taught and refugee managed.

Teaching permaculture

A Kurdistan refugee camp is where this
work, inititated by World Vision International, took Paula Paananen and me in
2017. I made a pledge to myself early on in my career, that I would take
permaculture to places that aren’t easily accessed by permaculture teachers or





The plan
knowledge. As in the past, that could be anywhere from Vietnam to rural
Ethiopia. From a small base in the Blue Mountains Permaculture Institute (BMPI)
in




















































































































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I
n a refugee camp in Iraq, people are
preparing to return to their home
city of Mosul which they fled when
it was heavily bombed last year. With
them, after a Permaculture Design
Course (PDC) they will be taking new
skills in permaculture. When they look
at grey water running through streets,
or need a way to protect themselves
against the harsh summer sun, the
permaculture lessons they have learnt
will provide some answers to these
problems.
Transforming a refugee camp
At the beginning of their permaculture
journey, as their teacher I ask them to
start by working on designs for their
homes in the camp. These camps have
broad, dusty bare roads along which
people live in tents or small cement
buildings enclosed by high walls. The
challenge is to make their surroundings
softer, greener, and cooler, and provide
some fresh food to supplement the
World Food Project rations. Summer
temperatures can go to 50º+C and
winter, drop to -15ºC. Winds are
savage. The residents usually live with
enforced inactivity.
Learning is a positive and critical
opportunity often neglected in camps.
The refugee’s ‘home’ is
the priority for design and
activity
The students are set tasks. They must
think about
• where to create shade
• how to block the savage, dusty
winds
• how to collect water and how to
reuse grey water
• what food they can grow in small
spaces.
With limited and boring food
rations, a path towards better nutrition
is a good place to start. The students
begin with simple crops like tomatoes,
parsley, and beans, with a pumpkin
or two to cover the roofs in summer.
Soon, vegetables like aubergines and
courgettes are added to the mix. These
crops grow fast, produce prolifically, and
assist in creating much needed shade
and nutrition. Then they add fruits such
as grapes.
Moving outwards to the
street and the whole camp –
with initiative
With inspiration the learners turn
towards greening the streets outside
their homes.
Here, people started with technical
knowledge. First they deal with the
problematic greywater which runs
down the gutters and treat it to water
new fruit trees which also give shade in
summer when the temperature rockets.
We all walk around the camp
looking at the slimy, black water in
which children are playing. By using
nature’s techniques, this water will
be cleaned. A delicate mix of plants,
oxygen, and sunshine can sterilise water
– a welcome skill in a place with little
fresh water and stifling heat.
The students identify the wind
direction, and where they need
windbreaks. They learn about the types
of trees, how to plant them, and what
benefits they can bring, such as shade,
timber, fruits, flowers, bee fodder and a
multitiude of other uses.
As the course continues students
develop their own initiatives. Turning
to water collection, they calculate
how much rainwater they can collect
from the roofs of sheds, storerooms,
and the mosque and identify where
it can be distributed to community
gardens during the dry season. They
plan community gardens and small
economic land-based incomes.
These were actions taken from a
theoretical class. They captured the
vision to transform camp. The students
also took the seeds we gave them,
and gave them to others who hadn’t
attended the class, and told them how
to plant it. We didn’t ask them to do
that.
This year, some of the first new
permaculturists will talk to Internally
Displaced People (IDPs) from Mosul
who have been in camps for months
and who, before returning to Mosul,
will have a permaculture course. Before
these Iraqis return home to their
blitzed villages they will meet and talk
with students about the experience of
learning permaculture, and what they
can expect to learn.
This is a World Vision, Kurdistan,
initiative. It is the beginning of a
project which is the ultimate goal of
Permaculture For Refugees (P4R) and
will become refugee-to-refugee taught
and refugee managed.
Teaching permaculture
A Kurdistan refugee camp is where
this work, inititated by World Vision
International, took Paula Paananen and
me in 2017. I made a pledge to myself
early on in my career, that I would take
permaculture to places that aren’t easily
accessed by permaculture teachers or

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knowledge.



As in the past, that could
be anywhere from Vietnam to rural
Ethiopia.
From a small base in the Blue
Mountains Permaculture Institute
(BMPI) in Katoomba and active
permaculturists from Philippines,
Spain, Greece, Italy and a support
group working in camps and new
settlements P4R by Skype. We work
with displaced people across the world,
and I have strong feelings about how
Australia is treating asylum seekers and
describe the practice of sending people
to Pacific islands instead of mainland
Australia as humiliating, shameful and
unconscionable.
I’ve seen what causes mass migration
of people, seen the needless suffering, and
so I have a profound, deep repugnance
and loathing for war and violence. After
seeing the conditions refugees often
live in, and after working in Southern
Europe during the economic crisis, my
thoughts crystalised: ‘There is a better
way, and it is permaculture.’
We needed to transform refugee
camps from places of profound suffering
and injustice into eco-villages. And this
is possible and makes perfect sense
without wasting any human potential
while restoring ecosystems.
The first impact of the work in
refugee camps is to improve people’s
immediate living conditions. Camps
can be regreened, refugees skilled up,
and wellbeing improved. Permaculture
gives people something to think about
and skills they can all do, and they feel
like people again with skills, purpose,
hope and a future.
Challenges to assumptions
Getting to the point where the students
can design the camp for themselves
is challenging. Often courses must to
be translated into multiple languages
and there are cultural differences to
overcome, and many students are
confronted when offered new ways of
learner-centred learning; many of them
are not used to actively participating in
class. There are innumerable challenges.
When I talk about forests, perennial
systems, rehydrating landscapes and
sustainability, I hit another stumbling
block because some students have never
seen a forest. Long wars destroy forests
e.g. in Kurdistan and Afghanistan. For
me, reforesting as quickly as possible is
vital. Once the trees come back, so will
water.
The future: ambitious goals
I want refugees to take over the teaching,
and for them to go into other camps
to share their knowledge. For this to
happen, there needs to be more support
and facilitation from NGOs and camp
managers. And beyond facilitation, they
need to ‘want’ the refugees to succeed
in permaculture and to transform the
camps and settlements.
Everything happens faster when
refugees teach each other. We constantly
keep our focus on refugees and their
abilities and potential. But we need to
train more trainers.
I have recently had a breakthrough,
and it came from Kabul. I was able
to fund the Afghan Peace Volunteers
from small personal donations and
LUSH, to translate some key texts
from the permaculture design course
into Dari, a language of Afghanistan.
The translations that the Afghan Peace





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As in the past, that could
be anywhere from Vietnam to rural
Ethiopia.
From a small base in the Blue
Mountains Permaculture Institute
(BMPI) in Katoomba and active
permaculturists from Philippines,
Spain, Greece, Italy and a support
group working in camps and new
settlements P4R by Skype. We work
with displaced people across the world,
and I have strong feelings about how
Australia is treating asylum seekers and
describe the practice of sending people
to Pacific islands instead of mainland
Australia as humiliating, shameful and
unconscionable.
I’ve seen what causes mass migration
of people, seen the needless suffering, and
so I have a profound, deep repugnance
and loathing for war and violence. After
seeing the conditions refugees often
live in, and after working in Southern
Europe during the economic crisis, my
thoughts crystalised: ‘There is a better
way, and it is permaculture.’
We needed to transform refugee
camps from places of profound suffering
and injustice into eco-villages. And this
is possible and makes perfect sense
without wasting any human potential
while restoring ecosystems.
The first impact of the work in
refugee camps is to improve people’s
immediate living conditions. Camps
can be regreened, refugees skilled up,
and wellbeing improved. Permaculture
gives people something to think about
and skills they can all do, and they feel
like people again with skills, purpose,
hope and a future.
Challenges to assumptions
Getting to the point where the students
can design the camp for themselves
is challenging. Often courses must to
be translated into multiple languages
and there are cultural differences to
overcome, and many students are
confronted when offered new ways of
learner-centred learning; many of them
are not used to actively participating in
class. There are innumerable challenges.
When I talk about forests, perennial
systems, rehydrating landscapes and
sustainability, I hit another stumbling
block because some students have never
seen a forest. Long wars destroy forests
e.g. in Kurdistan and Afghanistan. For
me, reforesting as quickly as possible is
vital. Once the trees come back, so will
water.
The future: ambitious goals
I want refugees to take over the teaching,
and for them to go into other camps
to share their knowledge. For this to
happen, there needs to be more support
and facilitation from NGOs and camp
managers. And beyond facilitation, they
need to ‘want’ the refugees to succeed
in permaculture and to transform the
camps and settlements.
Everything happens faster when
refugees teach each other. We constantly
keep our focus on refugees and their
abilities and potential. But we need to
train more trainers.
I have recently had a breakthrough,
and it came from Kabul. I was able
to fund the Afghan Peace Volunteers
from small personal donations and
LUSH, to translate some key texts
from the permaculture design course
into Dari, a language of Afghanistan.
The translations that the Afghan Peace
The plan



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Volunteers provide will be taken into a
refugee camp in Greece. I am keen for
translation work to continue, and for
the refugees to be the translators.
In 2018, I ran a second Permaculture
Design Course in Kabul organised by
the Afghan Peace Volunteers. This
was against a backdrop of 40 years of
war resulting in millions of internally
displaced people. There were tanks in
the street, terrorist bombing down the
road, and I was told by local people
that in one village the bombing was so
intense that the people had no land left
to bury their dead.
Permaculture for the future
I am very clear about one thing – this
is much more than just a gardening
project, it is a holistic sustainability project. The work goes far beyond
regreening refugee camps.
The nature of a refugee camp is that
its inhabitants are likely to leave one
day. When that happens, permaculture
students will leave behind a healthy
piece of land, well stocked with fruit
trees, grapes, olives, and shade trees.
This will be of huge benefit to the
local communities which BMPI and
P4R also want to integrate into the
permaculture learning and applications.
Once a permaculture camp has started,
the gates need to open and villagers,
farmers, and other locals also need to
be able to learn permaculture and work
with the refugees. This is a long way
from becoming a reality.
The final element to our work
involves the future of the IDPs, and
what happens when they return home.
Permaculture can provide relevant
solutions; ways to bring life back into
war-torn cities, and better ways of
rebuilding better than originally.
As yet, I don’t know anyone who
has gone back to their home with
permaculture skills, but we are full of
hope for the initiative. We may soon
have answers after some of our students
from a camp in Iraq return to Mosul.
What is so exciting about this
work, is that it not only creates a better
environment in the short term, it is also
provides long term solutions. There are
undoubtedly some wounds that can’t
be healed. But if our vision is realised,
permaculture could offer some startling
opportunities for people returning
to cities ravaged by war. It can give
people the skills to take control of their
surroundings, and show them how to
harness the processes and beauty of the
natural world in order to create a more
sustainable future.
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e camp in Iraq, people are preparing to return to their home city of Mosul which they fled when it was heavily bombed last year. With them, after a Permaculture Design Course (PDC) they will be taking new skills in permaculture. When they look at grey water running through streets, or need a way to protect themselves against the harsh summer sun, the permaculture lessons they have learnt will provide some answers to these problems. Transforming a refugee camp At the beginning of their permaculture journey, as their teacher I ask them to start by working on designs for their homes in the camp. These camps have broad, dusty bare roads along which people live in tents or small cement buildings enclosed by high walls. The challenge is to make their surroundings softer, greener, and cooler, and provide some fresh food to supplement the World Food Project rations. Summer temperatures can go to 50º+C and winter, drop to -15ºC. Winds are savage. The residents usually live with enforced inactivity. Learning is a positive and critical opportunity often neglected in camps. The refugee’s ‘home’ is the priority for design and activity The students are set tasks. They must think about • where to create shade • how to block the savage, dusty winds • how to collect water and how to reuse grey water • what food they can grow in small spaces. With limited and boring food rations, a path towards better nutrition is a good place to start. The students begin with simple crops like tomatoes, parsley, and beans, with a pumpkin or two to cover the roofs in summer. Soon, vegetables like aubergines and courgettes are added to the mix. These crops grow fast, produce prolifically, and assist in creating much needed shade and nutrition. Then they add fruits such as grapes. Moving outwards to the street and the whole camp – with initiative With inspiration the learners turn towards greening the streets outside their homes. Here, people started with technical knowledge. First they deal with the problematic greywater which runs down the gutters and treat it to water new fruit trees which also give shade in summer when the temperature rockets. We all walk around the camp looking at the slimy, black water in which children are playing. By using nature’s techniques, this water will be cleaned. A delicate mix of plants, oxygen, and sunshine can sterilise water – a welcome skill in a place with little fresh water and stifling heat. The students identify the wind direction, and where they need windbreaks. They learn about the types of trees, how to plant them, and what benefits they can bring, such as shade, timber, fruits, flowers, bee fodder and a multitiude of other uses. As the course continues students develop their own initiatives. Turning to water collection, they calculate how much rainwater they can collect from the roofs of sheds, storerooms, and the mosque and identify where it can be distributed to community gardens during the dry season. They plan community gardens and small economic land-based incomes. These were actions taken from a theoretical class. They captured the vision to transform camp. The students also took the seeds we gave them, and gave them to others who hadn’t attended the class, and told them how to plant it. We didn’t ask them to do that. This year, some of the first new permaculturists will talk to Internally Displaced People (IDPs) from Mosul who have been in camps for months and who, before returning to Mosul, will have a permaculture course. Before these Iraqis return home to their blitzed villages they will meet and talk with students about the experience of learning permaculture, and what they can expect to learn. This is a World Vision, Kurdistan, initiative. It is the beginning of a project which is the ultimate goal of Permaculture For Refugees (P4R) and will become refugee-to-refugee taught and refugee managed. Teaching permaculture A Kurdistan refugee camp is where this work, inititated by World Vision International, took Paula Paananen and me in 2017. I made a pledge to myself early on in my career, that I would take permaculture to places that aren’t easily accessed by permaculture teachers or Teaching permaculture to long term refugees and those returning home ROWE MORROW | NEW SOUTH WALES REGIONAL MEETING THE AUSTRALIAN FRIEND | JUNE 2018 5 CONTINUED ON NEXT PAGE knowledge. As in the past, that could be anywhere from Vietnam to rural Ethiopia. From a small base in the Blue Mountains Permaculture Institute (BMPI) in Katoomba and active permaculturists from Philippines, Spain, Greece, Italy and a support group working in camps and new settlements P4R by Skype. We work with displaced people across the world, and I have strong feelings about how Australia is treating asylum seekers and describe the practice of sending people to Pacific islands instead of mainland Australia as humiliating, shameful and unconscionable. I’ve seen what causes mass migration of people, seen the needless suffering, and so I have a profound, deep repugnance and loathing for war and violence. After seeing the conditions refugees often live in, and after working in Southern Europe during the economic crisis, my thoughts crystalised: ‘There is a better way, and it is permaculture.’ We needed to transform refugee camps from places of profound suffering and injustice into eco-villages. And this is possible and makes perfect sense without wasting any human potential while restoring ecosystems. The first impact of the work in refugee camps is to improve people’s immediate living conditions. Camps can be regreened, refugees skilled up, and wellbeing improved. Permaculture gives people something to think about and skills they can all do, and they feel like people again with skills, purpose, hope and a future. Challenges to assumptions Getting to the point where the students can design the camp for themselves is challenging. Often courses must to be translated into multiple languages and there are cultural differences to overcome, and many students are confronted when offered new ways of learner-centred learning; many of them are not used to actively participating in class. There are innumerable challenges. When I talk about forests, perennial systems, rehydrating landscapes and sustainability, I hit another stumbling block because some students have never seen a forest. Long wars destroy forests e.g. in Kurdistan and Afghanistan. For me, reforesting as quickly as possible is vital. Once the trees come back, so will water. The future: ambitious goals I want refugees to take over the teaching, and for them to go into other camps to share their knowledge. For this to happen, there needs to be more support and facilitation from NGOs and camp managers. And beyond facilitation, they need to ‘want’ the refugees to succeed in permaculture and to transform the camps and settlements. Everything happens faster when refugees teach each other. We constantly keep our focus on refugees and their abilities and potential. But we need to train more trainers. I have recently had a breakthrough, and it came from Kabul. I was able to fund the Afghan Peace Volunteers from small personal donations and LUSH, to translate some key texts from the permaculture design course into Dari, a language of Afghanistan. The translations that the Afghan Peace The plan







































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조류독감, 광우병 파동, 유전자 변형까지 현재 우리는 불안하기만 한 먹을거리에 둘러싸여 있다. 어떻게 해야 먹을거리와 함께 우리의 건강을 지켜낼 수 있을까? 저자는 그 해결책으로 '자연 그대로'먹기를 제시하고 자연 그대로 먹기 위한 세 가지 지침인 ‘단순하게 먹자’, ‘제철에 먹자’, ‘통째로 먹자’에 충실한 건강비법을 소개한다.

봄에는 봄내음에 흠뻑 취할 수 있는 봄나물과 달걀, 앵두, 대파와 쪽파 등의 먹을거리와 함께 모내기 이야기까지, 여름에는 더위를 이겨낼 힘을 주는 매실, 오이, 토마토, 가을에는 쌀쌀한 날씨에 몸을 따뜻하게 감싸주는 감, 기장, 단호박, 겨울에는 추울 때 먹어야 제맛인 고구마. 김장 무, 떡 등 각 계절별 제철 먹을거리 이야기와 함께 이에 얽힌 재미있는 일화를 소개하고 있다.

계절별 먹을거리 이야기에 그치지 않고, 이를 활용하여 먹을거리의 자연성을 살리는 기본원칙인 ‘단순하게 먹자’, ‘제철에 먹자’, ‘통째로 먹자’에 충실한 봄나물 토렴, 달래멸치무침, 무 홍시채, 청국장 샐러드 등의 자연요리들과 그 레시피까지 소개하고 있다. 일반 요리책에서는 보기 힘든 자연요리 중심으로 소개되어 있어 더 가치가 있다.

또 각각의 내용에 어울리는 각종 자연풍경과 먹을거리 그리고 자연요리에 이르기까지, 저자의 남편이 찍은 사진을 실었다. 먹을거리에 대한 고민이 많은 이때, 농부 입장에서 바라본 ‘친환경농산물’, ‘우리 땅의 먹을거리’, ‘토종씨앗’에 대한 생각을 담고 있어, 건강한 먹을거리란 과연 무엇인가에 대해 다시 한 번 생각해 보는 기회가 된다.





머리말 자연밥상, 자연요리

1장 봄
아이들과 봄나물 먹기
봄나물 하는 맛을 아시나요
먼 길 가는 길손에게 된장주먹밥
밥 한 그릇 1 - 희망을 심는 모내기
나무한테 얻어먹는 맛, 앵두
손바닥 농사
대파와 쪽파도 이리 다른데
새가 알을 낳는 봄, 달걀도 제철
뼈대 있는 생선, 멸치
손수 담근 상큼한 식초

2장 여름
매실이 우리 밥상으로 들어오다
여름의 대표주자 오이
김매며 나물하기
하지감자 돼지감자
알곡 그대로 먹을 수 있어 좋은 옥수수
햇살을 가장 많이 닮은 토마토
까다로운 참깨와 거침없는 들깨
자연의 기운을 담은 효소차

3장 가을
남편 생일상
가을에 감이 없다면?
밥 한 그릇 2 - 가을걷이
우리 민족을 가장 오래 먹여살린 곡식, 기장
주렁주렁 호박, 껍찔째 먹는 단호박
으뜸양념인 고춧가루를 위한 고추 말리기
수세미 덕에 화장을
땅 속에서 나오는 배, 야콘

4장 겨울
추운 겨울을 따뜻하게 덥혀주는 고구마
산삼기운을 끌어당겨 자란 김장 무
잔치음식에 떡이 빠질소냐
주전자 콩나물
몸이 찬 딸들에게 호두 잣 땅콩을
겨울다운 맛, 묵나물
피붙이 같은 곡식, 콩
꼬리꼬리 미끌미끌 청국장
철따라 바뀌는 김치 이야기




아이들은 카레, 짜장 같은 덮밥을 좋아한다. 우리도 덮밥을 만들 수 없을까? 인도 하면 카레, 중국 하면 춘장…… 그렇다면 우리나라의 대표 음식은 된장. 된장으로 덮밥을 만들어 보았다.
준비물: 완숙토마토 4~5개, 감자 3개, 양파 1개, 된장, 생물오징어 하나, 통고추 하나
1. 감자 3개 가운데 2개과 양파, 토마토를 먹기 좋게 썰어 냄비에 넣고 익힌다. 이때 마른통고추 하나를 넣고 끓이면 칼칼한 맛이 우러난다.

2. 오징어는 내장을 들어내고 먹물은 살려 찌개에 터뜨려 넣는다. 오징어 살은 먹기 좋게 토막을 낸다. 없으면 안 넣어도 괜찮다.
3. 감자가 다 익었으면 오징어를 넣는다.
4. 오징어가 익으면 남은 감자 한 개를 강판에 갈아 즙을 낸다. 감자 간 걸 그대로 다 넣으면 감자전분이 우러나 약간 걸쭉해진다. 마지막에 된장을 풀어 넣는다. 이때 카레를 향신료처럼 조금 넣을 수도 있다.-본문 중에서

눈이 덮인 한겨울, 자연에 먹을거리가 뭐가 있을까? 내가 멧토끼라 생각하고 찾아보면, 보이는 건 작은 나뭇가지, 마른 열매, 마른 풀, 눈이 녹으면 겨울 풀……열에 하나둘만 빼고는 모두 마른 것들이다. 우리 사람도 이때를 생각해 마른나물을 마련해 놓는다. 봄기운에 솟아난 고사리, 취, 다래순, 가을 찬바람을 담은 애호박과 애박 살을 말린 애박오가리, 시래기, 토란대……. 싱싱한 나물과 달리 마른나물은 또 다른 맛이 있다.

바람과 햇살에 마르면서 새로운 맛이 생긴다. (……) 묵나물은 나물 자체의 기운과 햇살의 기운이 담겨 있으며, 봄가을에 마련할 수 있다. (……) 오랫동안 자연에 순응하고 살아왔던 우리나라는, 겨울 뒤끝인 정월대보름에 묵나물 잔치를 벌인다. 오곡밥에 묵나물을 이웃과 나눠먹고, 풍물을 치고 온 마을을 돌며 겨우내 가라앉았던 기운을 일으켰다. 그러고 나면 봄이 성큼 다가선다.-본문 중에서






지은이 : 장영란
저자파일
최고의 작품 투표
신간알리미 신청
최근작 : <밥상위에 밥꽃이 피었습니다>,<밥꽃 마중>,<숨쉬는 양념.밥상> … 총 18종 (모두보기)
소개 :
서울에서 태어나 자랐다. 배우자 김광화는 서울서 만나, 딸과 아들을 두었다. 96년 서울을 떠나 98년부터 전북 무주에서 농사지으며 산다. 먹을거리를 자급하면서 ‘우리 안의 가능성’을 꽃피우려 한다. 농부다운 글과 사진 그리고 그림으로. 그러다 보니 부부가 함께 여러 책을 냈다. 『자연달력 제철밥상』 『아이들은 자연이다』 『숨쉬는 양념·밥상』 『씨를 훌훌 뿌리는 직파 벼 자연재배』.

늘 생명의 근원을 돌아보고 세상과 나누고자, ‘논밭사랑연구소’를 열었다. 소박한 ‘밥꽃 상영회’를 꿈꾸며, 틈틈이 이 책에 나온 ‘밥꽃’을 주인공...




사진 : 김광화
저자파일
최고의 작품 투표
신간알리미 신청
최근작 : <밥꽃 마중>,<직파 벼 자연재배>,<피어라, 남자> … 총 11종 (모두보기)
소개 :
상주에서 태어나 자랐다. 1996년에 서울을 떠나 귀농을 했다. 농사 틈틈이 일기를 썼다. 이게 쌓이니 언젠가부터 나만의 ‘빅데이터’가 되더라. 그 사이 책을 몇 권 내게 되었고, 이 책 역시 직파 일기를 오래 써온 결과물이다. 카메라도 어느새 호미만큼 익숙한 도구가 되었다.
직함이 농부작가, 정농회 교육위원을 비롯하여 새롭게 자꾸 늘어나는데 가장 즐겨 쓰는 건 ‘부부연애 전도사’다.

배우자 장영란과는 서울서 만나, 딸과 아들을 두었다. 96년 서울을 떠나 98년부터 전북 무주에서 농사지으며 산다. 먹을거리를 자급하면서 ‘...





“제철에 먹으면 내 몸이 싱싱해지고,
단순하게 먹으면 집중하는 힘이 생기며,
통째로 먹으면 마음까지 편안해진다.”

조류독감에 광우병 파동 그리고 유전자 변형까지…… 현재 우리는 불안하기만 한 먹을거리에 둘러싸여 있다. 이러한 혼돈 속에서 어떻게 해야 먹을거리와 함께 우리의 건강을 지켜낼 수 있을까?
여기, 자연 속에 파묻혀 그 해결책을 제시하는 무주농부가 있다.
평화로운 논밭에서 일하다 보니, 자연이 하나둘 눈에 들어오고 생명력이 느껴진다는 저자. 덩달아 밥상도 싱싱해져 가니, 이 방법을 많은 사람들과 나누고 싶다는 생각에 글을 쓰게 되었다고 한다.
밥상은 건강하면서도 맛나야 한다. 그렇다면 건강하면서도 맛난 밥상을 차릴 수 있는 방법은 과연 무엇일까? 저자는 바로 ‘먹을거리의 자연성을 살리는 길’이라고 말한다.
사람이라면 누구나 자연에 끌리는 법. 그건 우리 사람도 자연이고, 자연에서 나는 걸 먹고 살아가기 때문이 아닐까? 봄이면 냉이를 캐서 먹는 맛을, 여름이면 뜨거운 햇살을 담뿍 담은 토마토를 먹는 기쁨을 느끼며, 우리는 먹을거리가 가진 자연성을 배워나갈 수 있다.
이렇게 자연성을 최대한 살리는 요리법이 바로 ‘자연요리’인데, 그 기본원칙을 세 가지로 정리할 수 있다. 곧 ‘단순하게 먹자’, ‘제철에 먹자’, ‘통째로 먹자’이다.
단순하게 자연의 모습을 그대로 살려 먹으면 생명력을 가장 싱싱하게 받아들일 수 있고, 그 재료 본연의 맛과 향을 제대로 느낄 수 있어 입맛까지 좋아진다. 단순하게 먹을수록 우리 몸이 깨어나고 호기심까지도 살아난다.
요즘은 제철을 가려 먹기가 어려운 세상이긴 하지만, 제철을 기다려 먹으면 각 계절의 맛을 볼 수 있는 즐거움이 있다. 영양도 듬뿍 담겼을 뿐 아니라 값까지 싸다. 또한 제때 씨를 뿌리면 저 알아서 잘 자라기 때문에 사람 손이 적게 가고 농약을 적게 뿌리게 되니, 기르는 사람 좋고 먹는 사람 좋고 이 땅에도 좋은 일이 된다.
마지막으로, 사람은 누구나 있는 그대로를 받아들이는 게 편한 법인데 먹을거리 또한 예외가 아니다. 과일도 씨까지, 곡식도 될 수 있는 대로 도정을 적게 해서 통째로 먹으면, 천천히 오래 씹어야 하므로 치아건강에도 좋고, 소화에도 도움이 된다.
이 책에서는 봄?여름?가을?겨울별로 자연의 생명력을 지닌 먹을거리와, 위의 세 가지 원칙에 충실한 요리법까지 담아내고 있다. 복잡한 현대사회에 살면서 늘 이렇게 먹고 살 수는 없겠지만, 이 책을 지침 삼아 하나씩 시도해 본다면 서울에서도 전원생활의 생명력을 느낄 수 있지 않을까 기대해 본다.

자연이 더러워지면 우리 몸도 더러워지고,
철없이 먹으면 철이 없어지고 제철 먹을거리를 먹으면 싱싱해지고,
씨앗이 없는 걸 먹으면 사람 씨도 부실해지고
살아 있는 씨를 먹으면 몸도 마음도 튼실해지고,
먼 나라를 돌아 온 걸 먹으면 제 자리에 있지를 못하고
제 나라 제 땅에서 나온 걸 먹으면 제 자리에 뿌리를 내리고,
복잡하게 가공한 걸 먹으면 복잡해지고
단순하게 먹으면 집중하는 힘이 생기고,
가려내고 먹으면 저 좋은 것만 찾게 되고
통째로 먹으면 있는 그대로 받아들이고,
만들어 파는 걸 먹으면 돈을 쫓게 되고
손수 만들어 먹으면 사람을 사랑하고,
혼자 먹으면 혼자가 되고
여럿이 나누어 먹으면 더불어 사니,
먹는 게 바로 그 사람이다.

이 책의 특징

1. 내 몸의 치유능력을 길러주는 ‘자연 그대로 먹기’
결국에는 우리 사람도 자연이고, 자연에서 나는 걸 먹고 살아간다. 그러므로 우리 몸의 치유능력을 기르고 건강하게 살아가기 위해서는 ‘자연 그대로’ 먹어야 한다. 이 책에는 자연 그대로 먹기 위한 세 가지 지침인 ‘단순하게 먹자’, ‘제철에 먹자’, ‘통째로 먹자’에 충실한 건강비법이 담겨 있다.

2. 봄여름가을겨울 제철 먹을거리와 함께하는 자연밥상 이야기
봄에는 봄내음에 흠뻑 취할 수 있는 봄나물과 달걀, 앵두, 대파와 쪽파 등의 먹을거리와 함께 모내기 이야기까지, 여름에는 더위를 이겨낼 힘을 주는 매실, 오이, 토마토…, 가을에는 쌀쌀한 날씨에 몸을 따뜻하게 감싸주는 감, 기장, 단호박…, 겨울에는 추울 때 먹어야 제맛인 고구마. 김장 무, 떡 등 각 계절별 제철 먹을거리 이야기와 함께 이에 얽힌 재미있는 일화를 소개하고 있다.

3. 57가지 자연요리 레시피
계절별 먹을거리 이야기에 그치지 않고, 이를 활용하여 먹을거리의 자연성을 살리는 기본원칙인 ‘단순하게 먹자’, ‘제철에 먹자’, ‘통째로 먹자’에 충실한 봄나물 토렴, 달래멸치무침, 무 홍시채, 청국장 샐러드 등의 자연요리들과 그 레시피까지 소개하고 있다. 일반 요리책에서는 보기 힘든 자연요리 중심으로 소개되어 있어 더 가치가 있다.

4. 각 장마다 펼쳐지는 자연풍경과 건강 가득한 요리 사진
각각의 내용에 어울리는 각종 자연풍경과 먹을거리 그리고 자연요리에 이르기까지, 저자의 남편이 찍은 사진이 함께해 보는 즐거움까지 더해주고 있다.

5. 현대사회에서의 건강한 먹을거리에 대한 성찰
복잡하고 스트레스 많은 현대생활 속에서 우리를 지켜주는 힘은 바로 먹을거리다. 먹을거리에 대한 고민이 많은 이때, 농부 입장에서 바라본 ‘친환경농산물’, ‘우리 땅의 먹을거리’, ‘토종씨앗’에 대한 생각을 담고 있어, 건강한 먹을거리란 과연 무엇인가에 대해 다시 한 번 생각해 보는 기회가 된다.




Rosemary Morrow | quaker.org.nz



Rosemary Morrow | quaker.org.nz







Rosemary Morrow


Rosemary Morrow, a Good Way to Live


Growing up in Perth, Western Australia, in a family of four children among other big families, was a time of great freedom for Rowe, who remembers that ‘we were away from early morning till late and no-one needed to know where we were….there was safety in numbers and we looked after each other’. The children’s playground was the Australian bush behind their home garden, and the Swan River. Until the family left Perth for Sydney when Rowe was about 11 she was always either ‘outside or in a book’.

As she grew to adulthood Rowe’s time was spent ‘informally learning around the edges of the earth’, a mix of the practical (having run away from home to cattle stations in the Kimberleys and Northern Territory which she loved), and later the academic when she went back to school and then to Sydney University with a Commonwealth scholarship to study agricultural science.

A stint of working for the Department of Primary Industries in south-east Queensland was frustrating. What exactly was their policy? Was she there to keep small farming viable and productive, or to shift the farmers out? She loved the small mixed farms and farmers with a few hundred acres living traditional lives; the diversity of fruit trees and crops, dogs, the pet lamb, the vegie garden and sheds, all destined to disappear through being swallowed up by large companies, city suburbs or coastal development. Much later, after studying the pattern of small farms in France and Viet Nam, Rowe came to understand that every country needs a hinterland patterned with mixed small farms around its cities, for their food, and their pride in their produce and culture. And this pattern is more urgent now.

Time was spent on scholarships at the Sorbonne in Paris studying rural sociology, and at Reading UK studying development. From here Rowe was invited by Michael Young of the Open University to work in Africa.

When she went to work in Lesotho her inability to use her agriculture training from Sydney University was a huge shock; she had never grown seedlings or vegetables nor had any answers for dealing with erosion and hunger. ‘I was agriculturally useless and lost in a country where malnutrition was dominant. Instead, I worked in non-formal education which I loved, on a project which taught herd boys how to read and write through games printed on their traditional scarves. In the evenings they brought a candle to a rondavel where we gathered for school. When the boys later went to the mines in South Africa they could read their payslips and contracts.’ This literacy project was picked up and offered by a South African newspaper until it was banned.

In Lesotho Rowe was politicised by apartheid and chose to live in the Basotho part of town away from the expatriate quarter of development agencies where people lived in big houses with high fences and dogs. She joined in the marches against apartheid and in the singing and dancing at nights. She was now making links between food and water security, poverty and development.

Nearly a decade after leaving Australia she returned to study horticulture at TAFE learning ideas about landscape design as well as how to grow seedlings and plant trees. Appalled by the destruction of the Australian bush which she loved passionately Rowe picked up environmental studies. ‘But it was permaculture which linked it all together for me. It was the integrating applied science which fitted like a glove. I love the design aspects based on the fit of the land. Especially the restoration aspects appealed to me because of some deep and apparently inborn repugnance for destruction of ecosystems.’

In permaculture humans create consciously designed landscapes which mimic nature in that they have the stability and resilience (sustainability) of natural ecosystems in regard to their productivity of food and energy, their diversity of plants and animals, and the absence of waste products. On the other hand modern agriculture, seeking short term results, destroys diversity and the natural cycle of regeneration, produces waste, and leads eventually to degradation of the land for further productivity; it is unsustainable.

When Rowe was introduced to permaculture through a course in Sydney there wasn’t a lot that was new, because agriculture, horticulture and environmental studies had supplied much natural science for her. However the interconnection of all the disciplines and the interactive approach enchanted her, while she found the introduction of ethics intriguing. ‘None of my other studies had ever mentioned the word.’

Having become a Quaker in 1978 Rowe realised that there was a correspondence between Quakerism and permaculture. They had in common: care for people, simplicity, community, ethical use of money and right livelihood. They both render infinite positive outcomes when practiced.

Initially she wasn’t sure permaculture would work. She bought a small house not far from Sydney and built her first garden – by design. And it worked. Later she moved to a couple of acres on the edge of Katoomba and there satisfied herself that permaculture does indeed work. During this time she was offered work in Viet Nam and Cambodia to teach their first permaculture design courses, and, when in Australia, taught locally. She sees her future always as ‘a leaf that just goes with the wind’, blown to wherever the land is abused, the people are very poor, and the demand is for the knowledge and uses of permaculture.

At the time of this interview in 2009 she was planning to be in Malawi, Zambia, Uganda and Ethiopia after returning from East Timor where she had taught permaculture to the teachers of the East Timor Coffee Academy. ‘They were hungry for information.’

Rowe’s motivation to work on permaculture comes from her deep grief over the degradation of the earth from unwise practices and her concern for people struggling with hunger and poverty in difficult, often post-conflict, situations, as also for the loss of species and the waste of human potential. Her Quaker belief in seeing ‘that of God in everyone’ takes a step further with her statement that ‘if you don’t live as if there is that of God...., if people are dispensable or simply an object, then the repercussions are often very terrible. I am not unhappy but I carry a vast and terrible grief for the destruction of this beautiful opportunity we had to make paradise here, and for the inability of humans to find their niche, to see the future and change behaviours and attitudes.’

She does not believe that humanity can stop the irrevocable climate change which, when past its tipping point, will simply spiral down, but envisages the possibility that there will be pockets of people who survive because they have developed the necessary social, spiritual and physical skills, people like the Whanganui Quaker Settlers, with whom she lived for a time while teaching permaculture to Quakers. Rowe sees what she teaches as risk management for a very uncertain future and also a good way to live.





Rosemary Morrow, A Good Way to Live.



Growing up in Perth, Western Australia, in a family of four children among other big families, was a time of great freedom for Rowe, who remembers that ‘we were away from early morning till late and no-one needed to know where we were….there was safety in numbers and we looked after each other’. The children’s playground was the Australian bush behind their home garden, and the Swan River.Until the family left Perth for Sydney when Rowe was about 11 she was always either ‘outside or in a book’.

As she grew to adulthood Rowe’s time was spent ‘informally learning around the edges of the earth’, a mix of the practical (having run away from home to cattle stations in the Kimberleys and Northern Territory which she loved), and later the academic when she went back to school and then to Sydney University with a Commonwealth scholarship to study agricultural science.

A stint of working for the Department of Primary Industries in south-east Queensland was frustrating. What exactly was their policy? Was she there to keep small farming viable and productive, or to shift the farmers out? She loved the small mixed farms and farmers with a few hundred acres living traditional lives; the diversity of fruit trees and crops, dogs, the pet lamb, the vegie garden and sheds, all destined to disappear through being swallowed up by large companies, city suburbs or coastal development. Much later, after studying the pattern of small farms in France and Viet Nam, Rowe came to understand that every country needs a hinterland patterned with mixed small farms around its cities, for their food, and their pride in their produce and culture. And this pattern is more urgent now.

Time was spent on scholarships at the Sorbonne in Paris studying rural sociology, and at Reading UK studying development. From here Rowe was invited by Michael Young of the Open University to work in Africa.

When she went to work in Lesotho her inability to use her agriculture training from Sydney University was a huge shock; she had never grown seedlings or vegetables nor had any answers for dealing with erosion and hunger. ‘I was agriculturally useless and lost in a country where malnutrition was dominant. Instead, I worked in non-formal education which I loved, on a project which taught herd boys how to read and write through games printed on their traditional scarves. In the evenings they brought a candle to a rondavel where we gathered for school. When the boys later went to the mines in South Africa they could read their payslips and contracts.’ This literacy project was picked up and offered by a South African newspaper until it was banned.

In Lesotho Rowe was politicised by apartheid and chose to live in the Basotho part of town away from the expatriate quarter of development agencies where people lived in big houses with high fences and dogs. She joined in the marches against

apartheid and in the singing and dancing at nights. She was now making links between food and water security, poverty and development.

Nearly a decade after leaving Australia she returned to study horticulture at TAFE learning ideas about landscape design as well as how to grow seedlings and plant trees. Appalled by the destruction of the Australian bush which she loved passionately Rowe picked up environmental studies. ‘But it was permaculture which linked it all together for me. It was the integrating applied science which fitted like a glove. I love the design aspects based on the fit of the land. Especially the restoration aspects appealed to me because of some deep and apparently inborn repugnance for destruction of ecosystems.’

In permaculture humans create consciously designed landscapes which mimic nature in that they have the stability and resilience (sustainability) of natural ecosystems in regard to their productivity of food and energy, their diversity of plants and animals, and the absence of waste products. On the other hand modern agriculture, seeking short term results, destroys diversity and the natural cycle of regeneration, produces waste, and leads eventually to degradation of the land for further productivity; it is unsustainable.

When Rowe was introduced to permaculture through a course in Sydney there wasn’t a lot that was new, because agriculture, horticulture and environmental studies had supplied much natural science for her. However the interconnection of all the disciplines and the interactive approach enchanted her, while she found the introduction of ethics intriguing. ‘None of my other studies had ever mentioned the word.’

Having become a Quaker in 1978 Rowe realised that there was a correspondence between Quakerism and permaculture. They had in common: care for people, simplicity, community, ethical use of money and right livelihood. They both render infinite positive outcomes when practiced.

Initially she wasn’t sure permaculture would work. She bought a small house not far from Sydney and built her first garden – by design. And it worked. Later she moved to a couple of acres on the edge of Katoomba and there satisfied herself that permaculture does indeed work. During this time she was offered work in Viet Nam and Cambodia to teach their first permaculture design courses, and, when in Australia, taught locally. She sees her future always as ‘a leaf that just goes with the wind’, blown to wherever the land is abused, the people are very poor, and the demand is for the knowledge and uses of permaculture.

At the time of this interview in 2009 she was planning to be in Malawi, Zambia, Uganda and Ethiopia after returning from East Timor where she had taught permaculture to the teachers of the East Timor Coffee Academy. ‘They were hungry for information.’

Rowe’s motivation to work on permaculture comes from her deep grief over the degradation of the earth from unwise practices and her concern for people

struggling with hunger and poverty in difficult, often post-conflict, situations, as also for the loss of species and the waste of human potential. Her Quaker belief in seeing ‘that of God in everyone’ takes a step further with her statement that ‘if you don’t live as if there is that of God...., if people are dispensable or simply an object, then the repercussions are often very terrible. I am not unhappy but I carry a vast and terrible grief for the destruction of this beautiful opportunity we had to make paradise here, and for the inability of humans to find their niche, to see the future and change behaviours and attitudes.’

She does not believe that humanity can stop the irrevocable climate change which, when past its tipping point, will simply spiral down, but envisages the possibility that there will be pockets of people who survive because they have developed the necessary social, spiritual and physical skills, people like the Whanganui Quaker Settlers, with whom she lived for a time while teaching permaculture to Quakers. Rowe sees what she teaches as risk management for a very uncertain future and also a good way to live.

07 Rosemary Morrow, working globally and locally - Permaculture Australia

Rosemary Morrow, working globally and locally - Permaculture Australia



Rosemary Morrow, working globally and locally

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by Russ Grayson
Permaculture design teacher, development assistance worker, home gardener and relocalisation advocate, Rosemary Morrow lives in the Blue Mountains west of Sydney.
Rosemary's work in Cambodia and Vietnam has been the means by which she has enacted her Quaker philosophy. Rosemary has traveled widely in Australia to educate people in the permaculture design system and is author of 'The Earth Users Guide To Permaculture' (new edition 2006) as well as a trainer's manual based on the first, 1993, edition of the book.
Rosemary is active in her local area where she promotes the virtues of localism.

Permafund ambassador - Rowe Morrow - Permaculture Principles

Permafund ambassador - Rowe Morrow - Permaculture Principles

Permafund ambassador – Rowe Morrow

perma-fund-logoRosemary Morrow became the first Permafund ambassador at the Intentional Permaculture Convergence in London recently. Her long permaculture career has taken many journeys from education and publication to aid and development work, across the globe.


Third ethic of permaculture - Fair ShareRosemary’s work in countries such as Vietnam, Cambodia, Uganda, Bosnia and Afghanistan, highlights why we felt she deserved the recognition of being our first patron.
With the festive season upon us and a time of giving to others, Permafund is putting an appeal out to the global permaculture movement to consider sending us a donation. By sharing the abundance we have achieved with others, we participate actively in our third ethic… Fair Share. You can donate directly to Permafund here.
Permaculture Principles has been a long time supporter of Permafund, tithing proceeds with over AU$2000 shared in recent years. 

Permafund ambassador Rowe MorrowRosemary Morrow

Born in Perth, Rowe was claimed early by the Earth; plants, animals, stones, weather. Some years in the Kimberleys as a young girl confirmed it. She trained in agriculture science with which she was very disappointed, then moved to France where she lived in the L’Arche community. Later at Jordans Village in England she realised she would become a Quaker.
Back in Australia in the 1980s Rowe’s Permaculture Design Course provided the basis for a concern for Earth restoration. She considers permaculture to be ‘sacred knowledge’ to be carried and shared with others. Since then, when asked, she has travelled to teach the PDC to others who, due to circumstances, could not access it any other way. This took her to immediate post-war Vietnam as well as Cambodia, Uganda, Ethiopia and other countries.
Rowe’s present concern is to make teaching sustainable and encourage others to succeed her as teachers. Her books include the Earth User’s Guide to Permaculture and the Earth User’s Guide to Teaching Permaculture, available from our shop.

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Rosemary's Gardens - Encounter - ABC Radio National (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)



Rosemary's Gardens

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Rosemary Morrow is a Quaker and a Permaculture teacher and one of Australia's unsung heroes. From the chilly heights of NSW's Blue Mountains to the humid heat of Cambodia, Rosemary Morrow encourages people to plant food gardens. For Australians it's all about simplicity and sustainability, but for the developing world it's about health and making a difference.





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SINGING:

Every day I look around me

Everything seems upside down

Armies marching, children starving

People tearing others down.

Richard Corfield: Hello, and welcome to Encounter on ABC Radio National. I'm Richard Corfield and we're in the upstairs room of a pub in Katoomba, in the Blue Mountains of New South Wales, where a group of singers has just started their weekly practice.

SINGING:

Look into myself and know it,

I can turn the world around.

Richard Corfield: Amongst the singers, not in any way standing out from the others, is a smallish figure. She's dressed simply and has the sort of face framed in a bob of silver hair, that seems to be searching for the amusing in all things. She is Rosemary Morrow, who sings, but is unsung.

An unsung heroine, in fact. One of Australia's grittier women. She should be better known. But those who do know her, and have felt the power of her work, will never forget.

SINGING:

Make your mind up to make a difference

And you'll see you're gaining ground

Look into yourself and know it,

You can turn the world around.

Rosemary Morrow:(LAUGHS) Yes, well my name's Rosemary Morrow. Most people call me Rowe. I have worked in Permaculture for 20 years. I'm a Quaker. Passionately love the environmental, the natural things of life, desperately and passionately. And the more I see of them and observe, the more I love them. I tend to work with people coming from war and civil war, but not always. In Australia I actually work with a program called 'Alternatives To Violence' in prisons. And I like best getting no money and being somewhere where the need is greatest. That's what I like.

Richard Corfield: This week, an Encounter with Rosemary Morrow, Quaker, gardener, peace activist, teacher. Rowe spends a good deal of her life overseas. We're going to meet her now in a small town in Cambodia, where she's been running aid projects for Quaker Service Australia.

MUSIC - Pren Noriey Cambodge

Rosemary Morrow:This is a country of fairly rich soil, huge rain, many, many species, and with war and population growth, genocide, destruction, the people haven't got enough to eat. So I just - I get angry. If it's necessary and you can't do anything about it, it seems to be inevitable, that's one thing. But this is not inevitable. This is something which is fairly easy to remedy in the short term, and I suffer from angry, angry injustice. If I see a family of seven kids and they're all hungry and diseased, I want to hit someone. I want to kick the wall, I don't feel like doing good. I say to someone, 'Can you get them into the project and get them fed?'

MUSIC

Richard Corfield: That's an extract from a short film I made with Rosemary Morrow a few years ago. I followed her around the warm and lush Cambodian countryside looking at her remarkable work establishing food gardens in remote villages.

Rosemary Morrow:So, small, small garden, but quite good garden. What can they eat, Tehn? Let's look. Mien water, mien chives, mint chilli ...

1992-93, there was an enormous amount of hunger and malnutrition. Huge. So we thought now if people could actually learn to garden we could get at the worst of the infections attached to nutrition.

Richard Corfield: And so, that's what she did, and does, all over the world. In countries like Cambodia, Vietnam, India, Afghanistan, Rosemary Morrow teaches people to grow food.

And if you think that's like taking coals to Newcastle, you'll be surprised. That's coming up later in the program.

Meanwhile I've got a date with Rowe in a leafy street in the Blue Mountains near her home.

Rosemary Morrow:OK, Morning, Richard. Is this your first time to a Quaker Meetings.

Richard Corfield: Yes, it certainly is.

Rosemary Morrow:I think they've just settled. So it goes from 10 to 11, and this is Quaker Cottage at Woodford. And people will be sitting quietly and getting focused, and coming down into silence and stillness. And we will just go in quietly and settle.

Richard Corfield: Rosemary Morrow is a Quaker, a faith that came to her in mid-life, and it subtly guides her every move.

Rosemary Morrow:I've been a Quaker 30 years next year. And I realised that Christianity, which I never quite believed, it seemed much more mythological than it did a reality, for me. Other than the Christian thing to love your neighbour, it didn't give me enough to work with in life. It didn't provide a substrate on which I could work. So the Quaker testimonies to the importance of Peace, the testimonies to the importance of Simplicity, Community, Integrity, much more than Honesty, these things I've been able to explore as important to being a human, fully human.

Richard Corfield: If being a Quaker is one spiritual pillar that holds up her life, then the other supporting pillar is Permaculture, what Rowe could call a complete system for growing food, even for life itself. She's well-known as a superb teacher in the Blue Mountains, and that's where I also found her one Spring morning, about to start teaching a six week course in Permaculture Design.

Rosemary Morrow:OK, let's form a circle. What we're going to do now is go around giving our names, and we're going to say what our hopes are for this course. Now like the rest of you, I have hopes for the course, that we all turn into people with a low footprint, zero waste and a really good interactive community.

Peter: Yes, my name's Peter. I just hope to get out of this course, I've just got a block of land in Mount Victoria I'd like to have a permaculture design on, so that's about it, yes.

Liz: Hi, I'm Liz, and I'm trying to work out how to fit within a community and use the spot of land that I live on, and make that work with the lowest footprint possible. And with the least resources.

Dominica: I'm Dominica. We've got a block of land with a house on it, and just land that I have no idea how to use, because it's slopey and it's shady and I just want to be able - the whole family wants to live sustainably, and so I'm hoping to get a lot of knowledge out of this, and a new backyard as well.

Lynette: Yes, I'm Lynette. I hope to live in a permaculture community one day, or a community that is completely permaculture. Either or both. I want to refresh some old knowledge and fill some gaps. And I'm especially interested in watching Rowe's teaching here as well for the course.

Richard Corfield: What Rowe teaches and is the driving force behind all her agricultural work, is Permaculture. This is a system of growing food that mimics the way a forest grows, in that the plantings are largely permanent and self-managing. The idea came about in the '70s, from a Tasmanian forest worker, Bill Mollison, who became the founder of the Permaculture movement, and who is now seen almost as a prophet.

Rosemary Morrow:In the history of Permaculture, Bill Mollison took himself off and lived in a forest. This is after he was cutting down trees and milling them for houses. And then he said to all the guys on the mill, 'Which of you own your own house?' Not one of them did. And Bill said, 'That's it.' And he walked out.

He lived in a forest and he looked at the forest for a long, long, time. And he said, 'Now this forest doesn't need fertiliser, it doesn't need seed to be sown. It doesn't need pest control, it doesn't need artificial pollination. It doesn't need windbreaks, and this forest contains itself and lives.

So from that, he came back and somehow ended up at the University of Tasmania as an ecologist, and he said, 'Why can't we make systems that work like a forest?'

So it's not exactly a closed system, but it's a system that requires very few inputs from humans. Part of our design work is to move all the time closer to a forest. And we'll talk about that this afternoon, about getting the thing working with greater diversity.

So the reason he sat in the forest was he was so despairing of humans, and despairing of the state of the world. And out of that despair came the Permaculture ideas, let's start working on ecosystems that are actually perennial, diverse, self-sustaining in lots of ways.

OK. So now the hard part was, what do you think of some of the world problems that Bill was looking at when he went and hid in his forest? Yes?

Peter: We've been working every day at getting a step further away from a forest.

Rosemary Morrow:Absolutely right. Fantastic. Who else has got an idea?

Liz: I'm really worried about the introduction of genetically modified crops because -

Rosemary Morrow:Another one. Link it to your agriculture. What are some of the other problems facing us? Water problems?

Man: Resources generally.

Rosemary Morrow:Resource use.

Woman: And loss of diversity.

Rosemary Morrow:Loss of biodiversity, OK.

Woman: Convergences, peak oil and global warming.

Rosemary Morrow:Absolutely. And they are related probably to? Climate change, air pollution, soil pollution, water pollution.

So it's a really bleak scenario, but to despair is a sin. You can write that up somewhere. And what we do have is a huge amount of knowledge. We don't need any more knowledge to be able to turn things around. And that's a relief, too. Certainly some of it can be fine-tuned, but on the whole we can do it.

MUSIC

Richard Corfield: And she herself has done it, by living the Permaculture way. For years, Rowe's picturesque house and garden, deep in the Blue Mountains bush, was the training ground for many a permaculture hopeful. Now, aware of the relentless march of time, she's downsized. Her new place, smaller, is in suburban Katoomba.

There she continues to live according to the Quaker Testimony of Simplicity.

Rosemary Morrow:To live simply is to live as much as I can from the garden. To live simply is to be a very low consumer, like not to consume packaging and be part of the big buying thing. To live simply is also to consume locally and support local people. To live simply is to try to speak simply and to think more purely. In fact, it's a joy, it's so less cluttered. Your shopping list goes down to about six or eight main things, and that's it. Most of your supermarket is in your garden. No, life is much, much better, living simply.

Liz: I'm a bit like you as well, I want to do everything, and I think that's actually the crux of it. But I'm trying to work out how to deal with my greed. Because I just want everything in life all the time, straight away. And Rowe strikes me as somebody who has worked out how to deal with that aspect of your personality. And so I kind of want to be near Rowe just so I learn how to be less greedy and learn to just kind of go with it, and not force everything. Because I'm so worried about what's happening with the planet that I've been rushing like mad, trying to do something about it, and persuade other people to do something about it. And now I have to look back at my own family life and my children and think, how do I work with my own family and with the natural environment and with my community and relax into this a bit, and not try and force it so much, because I'm so worried about it all. But I feel that maybe Rowe is so calm.

And I just like to kind of, she's been in situations that are much worse than what we face in Australia with the drought. And I want to understand how you can stay positive and be a happy person with your family and with your community within that, and still keep acting. And how you work through that to live a balanced life that works with the planet for the future, because I don't think the way we're doing it is working. And I know that my greedy approach isn't really a good way to do it, either. So I'm just trying to work out how to kind of chill, and do things properly.

Rosemary Morrow:What I'd like you to do now, is someone that you heard say something that's interested you, can you put yourself beside them for a minute? Walk across the circle and just find someone that maybe similar to you, or different, or you'd like to know more about. Just chat for a minute.

GROUP CHATTING

Student: I think it's really important that people become self-sufficient and sustainable themselves. Because with the way the world's going, we're going to have to look to local communities to support each other and just sort of survive, I think.

Student: Yes. I was thinking, I've got a two-and-a-half-year old. So I mean, you know, I'm often so concerned you know, like I'm sort of thinking, what kind of world is he going to grow up in.

Rosemary Morrow:the biggest thing I've noticed in this group compared with all other groups is the level of anxiety is higher. It's there on a personal level. And the anxiety comes down to the human. Who are we as humans? If I summarise why we consume endlessly, why we don't share, why we're greedy, why we want, it seems to be to me a bigger question, a more philosophical, perhaps psychological question of who are we as humans. We've got ourselves into this situation. I don't think we can answer this, but people might come to it a bit through various things they do in the course. It will be action side that will bring them into a new place.

Liz: Yes, I think she's really inspiring. I'd heard about her from lots of people in the Blue Mountains before I initially met her. And then I started reading about her, and how she's worked in places like Vietnam, and South America and worked in a lot of Third World villages where she's really helped people learn to set up Permaculture. And I think that, to me, has been one of the inspirations, that she's gone to places that are in a much grimmer situation than even the worst places in Australia, and yet she's helped people remain optimistic and learn how to grow food in very inhospitable environments, and how to clean water; and basically I think she understands how to really live on this earth and inspire people to live well, and live co-operatively. And I think that what she's done internationally is absolutely mind-boggling, and really incredible. And I think that if we can start to live that way here, then we're setting an example for the rest of the world, that it's actually nicer to live with less, and since I've been reducing my consumption, I've actually become happier, and saved a lot of money, too.

SINGING:

Fear and anger can overwhelm me

Or I can choose to stand my ground

Look into myself and know it

I can turn the world around.

Richard Corfield: It's Sunday in the Blue Mountains. And I'm in a quiet room in a pleasant house set in a leafy garden. There are maybe a dozen people, including Rosemary Morrow, sitting in a circle, absolutely still.

They are the Blue Mountains Quakers. And they meet here each week.

Sabina Erika: So I'm Sabina Erika and at the moment I'm Clerk of the Blue Mountains Meeting, which, you know, we don't have ministers in the meeting, we believe there's that of God in everyone, and we can all minister to each other.

In being together, it's a bit like where two or three are gathered together, that of God can speak to us, and we try to centre down, as we call it; doesn't always work, of course. All the bits and pieces of our daily life keep intruding. The things that are on our minds, we try to put aside and let the spirit speak. And sometimes that results in someone speaking out loud. And when that happens, we think of it as a very gathered meeting. We've really gathered together in the spirit and allowed the spirit to speak.

Rosemary Morrow:There is a spirit which is divine and placed in the human heart by God, and denied to none by age or creed and which is available to all those who have a sincere heart. That's paraphrasing a Quaker and that's where I sit with God and God for Quakers is in that quote. Where the heart is sincere then there is a divine spark working through a life and you always live and behave so as to enable that spark to grow.

Richard Corfield: You were an atheist once, weren't you?

Rosemary Morrow:Yes. It didn't work for me. Because I probably had nowhere to put the transcendent sense. Where do you put it?

I was at university in England doing a Masters in Development Studies, and I met a student there who said, 'Go and stay in Jordan's Village of my family,' and that was a Quaker village. I realised that silence is the right medium for meeting the spiritual. And I really think some of the hymns and prayers are so beautiful that I get a lovely warm, fuzzy feeling. But the real sense of being in a gathered meeting in silence, focused on those things that can't be named, is probably for me anyway, it's the only real source of worship. Getting beyond words is a source of worship.

That is probably where I am now. If I go back to where I was, it was an Anglican church, kindergarten, those little badges, slogans. It was little songs about 'my cup is full and running over.' It went through various progressions at church schools where I got an increasing sense of something special.

But I'm not sure that I ever believed that there were burning bushes on the mountains, or that Moses came down with ten tablets, or two tablets with all these restrictions on. And when I did hear things like the Ten Commandments, I didn't think they were probably the most important things anyway. It seemed to me that it was a whole lot of negatives; and that was from an early age. None of it had relevance to what I was living, which was probably out in the bush and in the Swan River at Perth, and gardening, and becoming aware of good and evil in people, and when they were able to move away from that, or master it, or whatever.

I did at one stage in a crisis, when my nephew was dying of leukaemia, do a whole lot of begging to a God who perhaps I didn't really believe in, and a whole lot of prayerful stuff to save the child's life. And it didn't happen, and it didn't exactly make be bitter, but like so many others, I knew that that was actually for me, a phoney road. And so from the age of about 21 I knew that I wasn't into intercessionary or begging prayer of any type for myself. So self went out, in terms of religious experience, and instead I'm much more a receiver of what is wonderful about being alive.

MUSIC

Richard Corfield: This is Encounter on ABC Radio National, and we're in conversation with Quaker and Permaculture practitioner, Rosemary Morrow.

Permaculture is often lumped in with the more flighty New Age arts. But in fact Rosemary's discovery of this new gardening philosophy came straight out of a strong science education. She was a brilliant student. She could have been a doctor, but chose agricultural sciences instead, because, she says, the course was shorter. She was anxious to get out into the real world.

Rosemary Morrow:Going through agriculture was a good basic understanding of sciences. However when some years later, I got to Africa and I was working in Lesotho for many years, I found I was utterly useless.

Richard Corfield: Can you explain that a little bit?

Rosemary Morrow:Well, the people were hungry, and one thing they hadn't taught us anything about in agricultural science, was how to grow food. We learnt how to grow commodities, and how to put phosphorus on soils and how to leave, maybe, seven trees per acre, which was the rule then. And how to pull down trees the most efficient ways, and the speed of a chainsaw, but we never learned how to grow food.

Someone said to me, 'I think you should teach the Basuto in Lesotho to grow asparagus, because then they can send it to South Africa for canning. And I was walking past the market, looking at women sitting on the ground, and each one had little piles of tomatoes, about five tomatoes and one cucumber and one onion. That would have done a family here, and that's what they were being forced to sell. So there wasn't the food. They had only that dreadful corn mealie-mealie, or pap, as they call it. And lots of meat. But there wasn't food as we know it, variety and range for different circumstance. And I didn't have any skills to know where to start. And at that point, something happened with me: I knew food and in subsequent years, water, they are the issues.

MUSIC

Rosemary Morrow:I came back to Australia and I learned horticulture, the horticulture certificate, you know, the TAFE certificate. And that was terrific because at least our first day, they put out five different hoes, and said, 'This is what you do with them.' And they showed us the Dutch hoe and the English hoe, and the weed hoe as well; very practical and good, you know. It wasn't best done through physical theory any more, physics. However, with that course, gradually we become more and more industry oriented. The sprays and the pesticides, it was about selling flowers and selling plants, and getting them in pots. And suddenly I realised this was a whole commodity thing as well, but I learned skills to grow food, and so that was when I put down my really first garden as an adult.

Richard Corfield: And how did permaculture come into your life?

Rosemary Morrow:Oh, through my personality really. People saying, 'You should do Permaculture', and I did another imaginative leap and thought, Oh, that's just New Age garbage, you know, that's just wishes and hopes, and nothing substantiated. I'm a scientist. And then I thought, If you think that, you'd better go and do it, because you don't know what you're talking about. And I've done that again and again, I've gone and talked to the Rhododendron Society after deciding none of them were environmental. So I did Permaculture, and found it really was the whole jigsaw framework that I was able to put in people, and growing food, and looking after the environment, and the soil.

Richard Corfield: And that's what's driven Rowe through the years, as she travels the globe. The simple issue of enough food and clean water.

One of her biggest and most successful projects has been in Cambodia.

Rosemary Morrow:Cambodia's so beautiful, and so tragic. During Pol Pot times, millions of people died, they were killed. And following that, there was civil war and so much turmoil. Which the world forgets, but the people struggle on.

MUSIC

Richard Corfield: We find Rowe with a group of women walking through a village near the town of Pursat, in the middle of the country. Small houses line the leafy streets. Many are wooden, on stilts. Other dwellings are thatched with walls made from woven palm leaves. There is green everywhere, bananas and jackfruit trees.

The women head down a path towards one of the houses. It's rickety and the occupants are obviously quite poor. Rowe opens a gate into a small, fenced enclosure.

Rosemary Morrow:Look at the soil. Yes, small, small garden. Mint, little dracuan, cassava, beans on the living fence. Very often there's a little pot somewhere that's full of urine, and it's just sitting there.

Richard Corfield: The garden is about ten metres square, and is full of plants. Some in rows, some in exuberant tumblings over the beaten paths. New seedlings jostle with mature and extravagant bushes of eggplant, climbing beans, and other, less familiar vegetation. There's a rich and heady aroma of compost in the air.

This is one of Rowe's project gardens. Set up under the auspices of Quaker Service Australia, it's a scheme to get better nutrition into rural Cambodian families.

Rosemary Morrow:Well there's a very careful selection of plants. First of all we've chosen the ten hardiest vegetables that are nutritionally valuable. So we haven't tried to grow cabbages which are extremely difficult, or cauliflowers or carrots. We're growing the things people can grow. So that means everyone says Yes, I can do that. But their nutritional content is extremely important. The other thing is they're fairly small gardens, so they don't feel they're burdened when they have to go and transplant for hours in the rice field. So they can do it, and they require minimum care, close to the house, usually close to compost or toilet, see the straw over there, or toilet, they use urine. Permanent, they won't change this place, so over years, they build up the soil.

Richard Corfield: This is Permaculture?

Rosemary Morrow:This is Permaculture, yes. It's not the way you'd see it in Australia, but it's definitely what I'd called 'indigenised' for the people, it's like an indigenous Permaculture. But there's choices. And these are permanent. You see the chilli, this mint is permanent. The amaranth is self-seeding. So they don't have to constantly dig up garden beds and rake and hoe, and then plant out seedlings, because we don't want to add to the burden of their work. Life's hard, hard when you walk into town, or you're out in the field, or you're getting wood or carrying water. We really can't burden them with a garden system that's a lot of work and actually might make them sick.

Richard Corfield: Rowe is with staff from the Provincial Department of Women's and Veterans' Affairs who she has personally trained in the art of growing Permaculture food gardens. They in turn have taught the skills to selected families, like this one.

Rosemary Morrow:This man is the gardener. So he does the garden here, together with his daughter.

Richard Corfield: The man is thin, white-haired, stately and upright. Around him are his family, there's quite a lot of them, and a few neighbours. There's an air of excitement around the project's visit. Rowe's eyes are on the children.

Rosemary Morrow:There are five people in this family, but I can only track down three, and for my eye, there's a considerable difference in their health in three years, so that you can the daughter sitting down, she's got a whole glow, and I think that's what we're starting to see about people with gardens, is this clear, fresh sort of look within a fairly short time, if they eat regularly. And I think we're starting to get that look.

Richard Corfield: Is it as simple as that? Just diet?

Rosemary Morrow:No, it won't make them fat, and it won't provide energy. Or, very, very tall. But it will provide lack of infection, clear skin, coughs, you know before everyone coughed all the time, and big, bubbly yellow noses. Now they're starting to go. Well they're pretty much gone. I might run my eyes around, there's a boy standing there, just look. None of that bubbly yellow, no eye infection. So you're starting to get the impact just in general wellbeing. It's a vitamin-mineral thing, it's not protein and energy, though of course all this contains some energy and small amounts of protein, especially if they're eating beans.

Richard Corfield: After three years, this is Rowe's final tour of inspection of the project. It's been a difficult time, what with language problems, dealing with reluctant government officials and delicate local politics. But much of her success is down to the Quaker ideals of trust and honesty that Rowe offers to everyone she comes across.

Rosemary Morrow:It was within Quakers I understood that society starts unravelling if you can't trust people. So therefore your truth and what you say, needs to be important. So I guess that Quakers - and their foundational belief of that, of the spirit in everyone, is really important in approaching people. You tend to see them as approachable and trustworthy, rather than possibly dangerous and untrustworthy. So you know, if we listen to the anthropologists, they say we basically distrust strangers. I'm quite inclined to trust a stranger, and I think it helps that you've got this belief that there's potential, good or value in everyone.

I think I'm lucky to be in this situation; someone's doing something interesting when I come through the gate, and they welcome me and I feel gratitude for that. But it is rather if something's going wrong, I'm able to think, There's potential good here that somehow I'm not tapping into. And then there's that lovely little exercise in finding the potential good.

Richard Corfield: And what is that?

Rosemary Morrow:Well it's just bringing to mind, it's mindfulness. This person has had probably one hell of a life and they're tired, and then they're being nice to me. You know, you take it round to something appreciative and that's reflected in you to them, or whatever. I mean I'm sorry I'm a little bit inarticulate but Quakers don't talk about these things too much usually, so I can't articulate it, except it's very important in all sorts of situations. Certainly it gives you a joy in other cultures and so in Afghanistan you're able to see how wonderfully they do hospitality. How wonderful the sharing is, and how wonderful the joy in life is. You know to be so accepted in a country where your soldiers are bombing them. Well, it's really a privilege isn't it? And I think that foundational belief I think does carry you through.

MUSIC

Richard Corfield: We set off again on foot and soon find ourselves on a muddy track inside a small patch of forest. We spy two young women, busy with the fallen branches of a tree, giving us a clue why Cambodians have never really had a tradition of vegetable gardening.

Rosemary Morrow:See this would have been the traditional way of getting food. She's picking tamarind from a branch that probably she cut, or fell down last night, and may take it to the market. So that was really, really traditional nutrition for a long time. And then she peels them, and there they are ready to go to the market. When there was a lot of jungle like this, there was much more food available to people than presently. So people would actually go out and pick for themselves from the forest. So you can see here, they can eat that leaf, they might roll that one in something, and picking the tamarind seed. Now that was very good nutrition and sufficient, but it's going and largely gone in some places. That's why we do what we do.

Richard Corfield: Further on down the path we find another project garden. There's an old lady offering rice to a group of Buddhist monks. Rowe sets off to inspect the garden and is pleased to see a sturdy fence around it.

Rosemary Morrow:Now the garden is really well protected, which is good, because once an animal gets in, it will demolish it in a few hours. Here's the gardener.

LANGUAGE

Richard Corfield: The old lady, brightly dressed, has the gnarled feet and hands of someone who has known only constant toil.

Rosemary Morrow:So Dalah, ask her when did you start your garden? (LANGUAGE) How long ago? Two years ago. Did you have a garden like this before? Before the project, no. This is her garden, oh, OK.

The thing that most people can't see is the question I would say, 'What will this family eat tonight?' What are they going to eat today?

Richard Corfield: That's what you ask them?

Rosemary Morrow:That's what I ask people like you, who say, it's all green, why are the people so thin? And I say, Well you tell me what they'll eat. And unless you can see, you have the skilled eye, you don't know about the nutrition of the people. So I've heard people say, You know Vietnam is so green, Cambodia is so green. So why do they have the problem? Actually most of the time these vegetables are missing. So the green you see is the bamboo, or the tamarind or the flowering tree, or the bananas out of season, but there's nothing actually to eat in all that greenery.

What does she eat from the garden today? What will she pick today for lunch? Soropus, that's a nutrition vegetable. What else? Dracuan. What will she cook today, in this family for lunch? Bamboo shoot and this.

Rosemary Morrow: A nutrition garden needs to be complex. There's no such thing as a simple nutrition garden. Banana is an energy and vitamin source, but doesn't supply enough. By using this array of materials she's getting the right amounts of vitamin A, vitamin E, vitamin D, all that sunlight. There'll be some B vitamins in here. The soluble, insoluble vitamins, micro quantities of magnesium, of calcium. So what we're doing actually is making whatever rice and whatever meat they can get, work for good health. They won't get fat, but they'll be healthy.

Is this your granddaughter? She looks lovely. She's got the eyes and hair, everything we're looking for a result. Looks beautiful.

Richard Corfield: When the project was set up back in 1998, and with very limited resources, Rosemary Morrow and her colleagues set off to recruit just a few of the most capable women in the district. These they would train and ask them to grow their own gardens so others could learn from them in the hope that they would copy.

Rosemary Morrow:So the whole thing involved breaking everything down into tiny, weeny, little bits. How to build the fence was a three-day course I think; whether you use bamboo, whether you use bamboo with the big spines on it; whether you can keep a chicken out or a pig out, the discussion was endless, and it was minutiae of a fine, fine degree. The same with the compost, the same with which vegetables are hardy and keep growing if you have to go to the field, like now, for three weeks. Now our criteria were small enough not to be inhibiting; close to the house to be useful, so not behind that bamboo hedge. Not so much of a workload that they wouldn't want to do it. Provide vegetables all year round, some, and we didn't really mind too much about the quantities for a family. And then we would see where women went with the gardens.

Richard Corfield: Rowe is talking to one of those early gardeners.

Rosemary Morrow:We've been getting some statistics here from figures. And this woman has taught 20 other poor women farmers. Of them, 20 are still doing the garden a year later. Hundred percent. Of that, all of them sell something. So not only is it a nutrition program,. It's also income generation. And that will make a big difference to a small family like this, or single women.

Richard Corfield: From the example and inspiration of these pioneer gardeners, more than 800 nutrition gardens were established in the three years of the project. It's a remarkable vindication of the idea that one person really can make a difference.

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Richard Corfield: It's three years now since Rosemary Morrow's direct involvement in the project ended. Since then, the Cambodians have carried on, running what's now become thousands of nutrition gardens, and the ideas are being carried to neighbouring provinces. Rowe's syllabus is even becoming part of the job description for some provincial government staff.

It's a remarkable success story and much of it is down to Rowe's belief in the right of all to have access to the sorts of skills and knowledge that she herself has accumulated in her lifetime. And it hasn't always been easy.

Rosemary Morrow:Yes, I mean I'm in a village, it isn't just there, it's also with the diarrhoea and they've just cancelled the program because there's a festival and I had to spend three days walking round and round the pagoda with an artificial tin thing on my head in the mud, which I don't want to be doing. I think the sustenance is that sense of doing what somehow, I mean this people, it's all the Christians say God sent you to do this, but it's just doing what the sense of what you're meant to be doing. I think some people who garden at home and grow roses with that same sense; and mine is about food and inability to get the information and resources. So yes, it does matter to be a Quaker because on Sundays I'll often sit by myself for an hour in Quaker silence and I'll mentally put myself into a meeting somewhere that will be meeting on that longitudinal line, and I'm with a meeting, a gathered meeting, in the silence.

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Richard Corfield: Back in Katoomba, the Permaculture course is nearing completion. The students have learned how to design and lay out a garden, taking account of water, soils, local climate and plants. And as a practical exercise, Rowe has got her class actually building a food garden at the house of one of the students.

Rosemary Morrow:Well we're at Dom's house at Hazlebrook, and she wants us all here to do a site analysis and a garden for her in the next few hours. It's giving them the skills to do sheet mulching, a little pond, a herb spiral, and get all that right.

Richard Corfield: You're certainly getting into it now, is it a very positive idea of what's going on here?

Student: This is, I'm just sort of creating an outline of what's going to be our bed. And Lynette's pulling out the weeds here. And Dave's doing some watering. So that we're getting it all together. We've got other people in another part of the garden there, pulling out weeds, and we'll be laying down paper here, old newspaper. That'll be sort of sheet mulch. And so already the weeds are going to be used as active mulch.

DIGGING

Richard Corfield: There's a very cheerful air about the place today in contrast to the rather dark world view I heard expressed on the first day. The Permaculture course itself seems to have gone down very well.

Liz: It's been far more intense and far more comprehensive than I thought, but even dreamed it would be. It's I think one of the really amazing things about it has been that it seems to have - it's got such a strong ethical and principled base for how to attack life and how to attack human longevity, so it's really looking at every aspect of what humanity needs to live well, and how to do that, and it comes up with solutions, like Permaculture seems to have the solutions for all the crises that we're facing in the future, and that's really exciting for me, because with young children I really want to know how to show them how to live. And I feel that through permaculture, I'll be able to give them the skills and the right attitudes to life.

Man: You can't help but have a bit of depression about the way things are going, but at the same time I find it all pretty exciting really, because my view is that the only way we can make a difference is individually. And through myself doing it and Liz doing it and people seeing us doing it and walking past. Today you saw a whole lot of people looking in and going, 'What's going on there?' And I'm sure Dom's going to have plenty of people stop and chat to her about what's happening in her front yard, and all that helps, you know. So I've got plenty of friends who think in a similar way to me, but probably need someone like myself to get out and do it and stimulate them to do a little bit as well. So I think it's quite exciting really.

SINGING:

Make your mind up to make a difference

And you'll see you're gaining ground.

Richard Corfield: Another year, another country. Rowe is now about to head off to Africa, funding the trip entirely from her own resources.

SINGING:

You don't have to move around ...

Rosemary Morrow:Ethiopia next. There's huge need there. I think I want to be where there's need. I'm going to teach Permaculture and go to Ethiopia, and then I hope Northern Uganda if all the fighting has stopped. It's a bit nasty.

SINGING:

Though that voice may be small and quiet

It can make a mighty sound

Find it in yourself and try it

You can turn the world around.

Richard Corfield: This week's Encounter, Rosemary's Gardens, featured Rosemary Morrow and students from her Permaculture class. We heard from workers at the Pursat Department of Women's and Veterans' Affairs; the Blue Mountains Quakers; and the Blue Mountains Trades Union Choir.

My thanks also to Kerry Hannan. Sound Engineering by Louis Mitchell. I'm Richard Corfield and please go to our website abc.net.au/religion for lots more. Thank you for listening.