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2022/12/25

Philo Kalia ‘仁義’란 인간의 본성에 속한 것이고, 본성이란 하늘이 내린 명이라면(天命之謂性)

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원로 철학자이신 김태창(Taechang Kim) 선생님과 페북에서 뵙고 포스팅과 미학적인 글에 큰 사랑과 지지도 받고 더 넓은 생각의 지평을 얻을 수 있는 코멘트를 달아주시니, 참으로 기쁘고 감사한 일이다. 최근 포스팅에도 코멘트를 해주셨고 서너 번 대화가 오간 것을 기록해두고 싶어 차례로 모았다.


‘仁義’란 인간의 본성에 속한 것이고, 본성이란 하늘이 내린 명이라면(天命之謂性), 이사야를 통해 말씀하는 야훼 하나님의 의나 맹자를 통해 告한 하늘이 명한 인간의 본성(인의)은 그 표현은 달라도 내용은 같은 것이리라.


Taechang Kim
相通하는 바가 있다고 할 수는 있지만 내용이 같은 것이라고 말할 수 있을까요? 상호이해는
중요하지만 서로의 고유가치를 동일의 사유로 묶어버리면 서로 다른 것의 아우러짐을 통한 새엶의 지평을 닫아버리게 되지 않겠습니까?

심광섭
Taechang Kim 相通한다는 것은 서로 다른 것이라고 생각했던 것인데 숙고해보니 통하는 점들이 있어 공감, 공명, 교류할 수 있고, 이렇게 되면 상이한 것들이 상보함으로써 풍부해진다는 것이고, 고유 가치는 다른 개념(표현)으로 언표되는 한 훼손되거나 일방적으로 통일될 수 없음이지만, 여기서 내용이란 사람이라면 상황과 방도는 달라도 그렇게 하지 않을 수 없는 큰 이치(天理)에서 나온 情의 用이란 점에서 같은 것이고, 그렇기 때문에 合理合情이고 順理順情이 되는 것이 아닌가 생각됩니다.

Taechang Kim
Philo Kalia 그래도 기독교의 義와 유교의 義사이에는 근본적인 차이가 있고 그 차이가 기독교와 유교의 共存相尊을 의미있게 한다고 생각됩니다. 다르다고 생각해 왔는데 비슷한 점이 있다는 새로운 깨달음은 동시에 거의 같다고 느껴진 것이 다 깊은 곳에서 다르고 그러면서도 함께 있음으로써 이제까지 몰랐던 새 지평열기가 가능해진다고 생각합니다.


심광섭
Taechang Kim 많은 생각을 하게 합니다. 아리스토텔레스의 '중용'과 중용의 '중용'은 정말 근본적인 차이가 있습니다. 기독교의 義와 유교의 義사이에도 차이가 있다고 생각합니다. 그 차이는 깊은 곳에서 다른 존재론적 차이라기보다는 역사적 차이라고 생각하고 있습니다. 따라서 "근본적인 차이"라는 지적에 선뜻 동의하기 어렵습니다. 역사적인 혹은 생활세계적인 차이가 있다할지라도 대의명분이 있는 어떤 절박한 문제의식이나 역사적 과제 앞에서 근본을 생각하면 동학의 가르침인 吾心卽汝心의 계기가 생기는 것이 아닌가 생각합니다. 이 계기(실존적 순간)는 하나님의 마음과 합한 다윗에게서(삼상 13:14)도 나타난 것이 아닐런지요. 그렇지만 인심은 늘 인욕이 되기 쉽고 위태하니 誠敬의 태도가 필수이듯이, 역사적, 제도적, 교리적, 전례적 차이를 존중해야 한다고 봅니다. 이 존중심은 모든 종교에 상이하게 나타나는 현상을 근원 체험(선생님이 말씀하시는 개신의 역사)에 근거하여 상고할 때 생기는 것이라고 생각합니다.

Taechang Kim
Philo Kalia 예. 대화가 되어서 기쁩니다. 선생님의 생각과 제 생각이 같을 필요는 없잖습니까? 지나 저의 미흡한 생각입니다만, 역사적 상황적 접근은 가능하지만 다름아닌 존재론적 차이가 기독교와 유교사이에 엄존한다고 봅니다. 기독교는 인간존재의 근원(본성)은 죄지은 존재(=근본악)이기 때문에 예수 그리스도의 십자가에서 죽음을 통하여 하나님의 의롭다함을 인정받아야 할('義認')존재론적 실상을 전제로 해서 구제론적 복음의 실존관련적 뜻매김 자리매김이 뚜렷해지지만, 정통유교의 인간본성론의 핵심은 본질적 선성(善性)에 전제로하기 때문에 초월적 타자에 의한 의롭다함을 필요로 하지 않고 거기서 義의 대의명분을 빙자한 独善-独断-独裁에 의한 전체주의적 지배구조의 정당화 근거가 되기도 했었던 기억을 생생하게 기억하고 있습니다. 인간내면에 깊이 잠재한 근본악에의 편향가능성에 대한 자각이 없는 仁義만으로는 뿌리깊은 偽仁偽義의 창궐에 대 개신적 대응이 곤난하다는 것이 저 자신의 체감 체험 체듣한 바 입니다. 유교에서 배울만한 점이 많지만 인간 본성론만으로는 근본악의 문제에 대한 철저한 검토가 없었고 황제의 선의지와 사대부의 선인식이 부합되면 선한 세계가 이루어진다는 낙관론이 황제의 흑심과 사대부들의 욕심때문에 왜곡되고 변질되는 역사와 상황을 뿌리 바탕으로부터 바꿀 수 있는 초월적 타력의 개입을 처음부터 차단해 놓은 데서 오는 한계요 모순이라 생각됩니다. 구태어 제도적 기독교가 아니더라도 초월적 타자의 눈과 귀와 입이 있어서 인간의 오만과 자기의인(=스스로 의롭다함)이 근원적 악에로의 편향을 제어하지 못하고 악을 행하는 자기모순에 빠지는 행태를 목격해온 저로서는 유교적 인간본성론과 기독교적 인간본성론과 부분적으로 겹치고 상통하는 점이 적지 않게 있지만 결코 같다고 할 수는 없다는 생각입니다. 제 생각을 말씀드렸습니다. 선생님 생각이 다르더라도 그것을 선생님 생각으로 존중하고 배우려하는 마음은 변함이 없기 때문에 대화은 계속하고 십습니다.

심광섭
Taechang Kim 선생님의 고견을 잘 읽었습니다. 몇 가지 의문이 생겨 대화를 계속하려고 합니다. (1)서양과 동양, 기독교와 유학(유교)의 차이가 존재론적 다름에서 비롯된 것인지, 아니면 역사적 과정과 지리적 배경의 차이에서 비롯되어 2~3천 년의 역사 속에서 생성된 것인지 고찰할 필요가 있다고 생각하며, 저는 후자에 무게중심을 두고 싶습니다. 물론 신학자 존 캅은 <존재구조의 비교연구>라는 책에서 세계 종교의 차이를 존재구조의 차이라는 관점에서 서술한 바 있습니다.
(2)기독교의 인간 본성론이 원죄라는 근본악에 뿌리를 두고 있으며 성악설과 가깝다는 것이 전통적 이론이고 중론이긴 합니다만 하나님의 형상으로서의 인간 이해에 기초한 인간의 잠재적 가능성을 완전폐기한 것은 아니기 때문에 선행하는 하나님의 은총으로 말미암은 인간의 자유의지를 긍정할 여지는 남아 있습니다. 또한 유학의 인간본성론도 성리학에서 人心道心說로 세미하게 전개된 것도 있고, 논어의 처음 장들에서 외적인 巧言令色을 금하고 내적인 성찰(一日三省吾身)을 다각도로 강조하고 있으며, 敬과 誠, 愼獨 등의 사상은 偽仁偽義가 생길 위험을 철저히 경계하고 있으며, 이것이 유학의 인간본성론의 핵심이 아닌가 생각합니다.
(3)사상이 감언행(感言行)의 일치를 통해 체감, 체득되어야 한다면 초월적 타자가 개입되어야 한다는 생각은 타율적 인간 도덕을 벗어나 궁극적으로 자발적, 자율적, 주체적 인간의 도덕 형성에 도달하여야 한다는 목적에 잘 도달할 수 있을지 의문입니다. 뿐만 아니라 선생님이 평소 강조하시던 “脫在”신학과 어떤 연관성 있을까, 順연관성이 있을 수 있는지 궁금해집니다.
기독교에서 말하는 ‘사랑과 정의’, 유학의 기초 사상인 ‘仁義’는 존재론적 차이라기 보다는 역사적 생성과정에서 형성된 차이라고 생각하며, 역사적 차이라는 관점에 설 때 오늘날 지구적 소통과 사유가 일어나는 시공간에서 동서양 사상이 잘 만나 공명하고 지구적 난제들을 극복하고 인간성을 심화하는 데 도움을 줄 수 있지 않을까 생각합니다. 저는 기독교인이면서 동양사상을 이웃으로 벗삼고 사는 것만이 아니라, 제 인격과 우리 문화 안에 동서양의 사상과 문명이 혼합되어 새로운 실재를 형성해가는 도중(途中)이라고 보고 싶습니다.  
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33 comments

Reply22 w
유용현
잘 읽었습니다. 감사합니다. 저도 대학 때 동양종교와 기독교의 대화를 추구하고, 경전들을 열독한 사람으로 과연 '차이' 혹은 '특징'을 심도깊게 연구했었습니다. 완전한 결론에는 못 이르렀지만, 제 생각으로는 장로교를 위시한 개혁교회의 신앙원리에 '완전타락'과 '하나님의 형상의 완전 파괴'가 있어서 인간이 자의적으로 신을 알 수도 없고, 신의 계시를 수용할 수도 없으며, 거룩한 상태에 도달할 수 없다는 교리와 신조가 있는데, 이것에 대한 감리교의 해석이나 수용이 다른 것과 연관이 있는 것이 아닌가 생각합니다. 즉, 감리교는 완전한 타락, 파괴에 동의하지 않고, 인간의 자유의지와 도덕적 행위의 가능성을 열어두고 있기 때문입니다. 그렇게 되면, 얼마든지 동양사상과의 접촉점이 가능해 질 수 있지요.
Reply22 w
Philo Kalia
유용현 네, 논점을 콕 집어 주셨습니다. 원죄와 악에 기초한 전통적 기독교의 인간이해가 종교와 철학을 포함한 제학문에서 탐구 되는 인간이해와 잘 소통할 수 있기를 바랍니다.
Reply22 w
윤세형
퇴계 이황과 고봉 기대승의 논쟁을 보는 듯 합니다.
Reply22 w
Philo Kalia
윤세형 격조 높게 봐 주시니 영광입니다.
Reply22 w

Taechang Kim
정말 함께 서로 절차탁마하는
대화과정이 열리는 것같아서
기쁘고 감사합니다. 이제 90을
바로 앞에 든 삶자리에서 남들
이 어떻게 말했다가 아니라 저
자신이 살아오면서 배우고 익
히고 깨닫고 삶속에 녹여 뼈와
창자에 새겨온 생각을 말씀드
리는 것이며, 저는 가르치는데
는 더디고 배우는데는 서두르
는 常学人(学者나教師가아님)
이기 때문에 앞으로도 배우려
는 의도에서 현재까지의 체감
체험 체득의 일단을 말씀올림
을 너그럽게 양해해 주시기 바
랍니다. 저는 할아버지에게서
중국고전을 배웠고 그기초위에
서 중국사상을 공부했습니다.
그 후에 미국과 유럽에서 서양
사상을 공부하고 한국과 일본,
그리고 몇몇 다른 나라에서 서
양과 동양의 사상 철학 문화 종
교들사이의 대화가능성에 촛
점을 둔 철학대화를 30년 넘게
계속해 오고 있습니다. 중국대륙을 10년동안 동서남북에 있는 대학이나
연구소를 찾아다니면서 자유롭고 활발한 대화를 전개
해서 많은 현장검증도 쌓았습니다. 서양에서의 체험
학습과 중국에서의 체험학습,
그리고 일본과 한국사이에서
서로 다른 관점과 입장에 있는
분들과 나누고 있는 대화를 통
해서 몸으로 느끼고 맘으로 가다듬고 얼로 삶에 살린다는
자세와 방법으로 쌓아 온 깨달
음의 현단계의 한쪼각에 불과
합니다. 서론이 길어 졌습니다.
1. 한마디로 유교라고 말할 때
공맹유교의 성선설과 순자-한비자등의 성악설이 대립해 있고 그 사이에 치열한 논쟁이
있었지만 적어도 대외적으로
는 공맹유교를 유교의 대표성
을 유지해 왔고 심교수님이 거
론하신 유교관련 언급이 그 쪽에 무게중심이 실려있는 것
으로 이해했기 때문에 기독교
쪽도 소위 정통기독교라 칭해져왔던 입장과 관점에다
촛점을 맞춘 논의를 전개하려
했습니다. 평소에 존재신학적
인 말씀이 많으셨기 때문에
그쪽에서 논의하자면 정통기독
교와 정통유교사이에는 인간존
재의 파악과 인식에 근본적인
차이가 있고 양쪽이 우리의 사
고발전에 좋은 시사를 던져주는 기본토대가 된다는
것입니다. 그 다음 단계로 피차
간의 역사적 상황적 변화 발전을 거듭하는 가운데서
기독교와 유교의 양쪽에서 정통과 다른 새로운 생각이
생성 정리 정립됨에 따라 성선
과 성악의 두 기틀이 겹치고
포개져서 기독교도 유교도 비슷한 인수분해과정을 걲게
되어 상호간의 대화가능성의
폭이 넓어젔습니다. 그러나
그 것은 역사적 상황적 변화에
따른 인식-실천의 파라다임이
상호접근했다는 것이지 본래
의 차이가 없어진 건 아니라는
것입니다. 여기서 중요한 핵심
포인트는 기독교는 그 뿌리
바탕이 인간개개인의 영혼구제
를 위한 하나님의 섭리를 계시
하는 복음인데 비해서 유교는
수신제가치국평천하를 지향하
는 통치철학이라는 점을 잊어서는 안된다는 것입니다.
세계구조가 다르고 인간존재
의 파악이 다르고 핵심주체가
다릅니다. 서양과 동야의 접근
만을 주안점으로 한다면 희랍
인문주의와 유교인본주의를
비교연구하는 쪽이 훨씬 공통
점을 많이,그리고 깊이 공감할 수 있을 것입니다. 역사적 상황적 변화에 따른 상호접근성이라는 각도에서
유교와 기독교의 관계를 살펴
본다는 것은 방대한 자료와
치밀한 검토가 필요하기 때문
에 개활적인 언급으로 끝내거나 한두가지 사례로 해
결하기에는 신중한 심사숙고의
과정을 겪어야 한다는 생각입
니다. 서로 다르면서 함께 새
지평을 열어가는 일이 다 같다고 해서 끝내는 것보다
다이나믹한 사고력-상상력-
구상력을 기르는 일이 되지
않을까요?
Reply22 w
Philo Kalia
Taechang Kim 선생님의 노숙한 사유와 너른 지평을 가늠합니다. 선생님의 글을 새기며 두고두고 제 공부의 과정에서 성찰하겠습니다.
Reply22 w
손미옥
Taechang Kim 선생님,멋지고부럽습니다.
그렇게 다양한 학문의 경험과 체득을 쌓을 수있는 귀한 축복을 받으신 분^^
Reply22 w
Taechang Kim
손미옥 아닙니다. 너무 아둔해
서 남이 금방 깨닫는 것도 남
보다 몇배 힘들여야 깨닫게 되
기 때문에 노력하고 또 노력한
것뿐입니다. 공자께서 태어나
면서 아는 것이 으뜸이고 배워
서 아는 것이 중이며 힘들여 아
는 것은 하라고 하면서 힘들여
애를 써도 배우지도 알지도 못
하는 것에 대해서는 포기한 듯
한 말씀글이 있습니다. 그런데
저 자신은 공자가 포기한 그 그
룹에 속한 스스로를 알아차려
서 남보다 더 힘들여 애썼습니
다. 그러니까 배울 수 있는 기
회를 찾아 다녔습니다. 아직도
남을 가르치기 보다는 제가 배
워야할 것이 많으니까. 심광섭
선생님을 통해서 새로운 세계
와 거기 계신 분들을 만나 배우
게 되어 얼마나 기쁘고 감사한
지 노년의 값진 学-思-行을 함
께 갈고 닦을 수 있는 哲友들의
모임이라 여기고 있습니다.
Reply22 w
손미옥
Taechang Kim 벼는 익을수록 고개를 숙인단 말이 실감나네요^^
저는 공부해나가는 것이 실력이라고 생각해오고 있습니다. 배움을 즐기심은 벌써 학문의 樂 으뜸이지 않으신가요?
두분 선생님의 깊은 학문의 세계와 겸허함에 늘 고개를 숙이게 됩니다~♡
Reply22 w
Taechang Kim
손미옥 예. 그렇게 보아주시니
고마울 뿐입니다.
Reply22 w
송명호
Taechang Kim 장자에 묻지도 않았는데 끼어든다는 불사이응이란 말이 있어서 용기를 냅니다.
저는 공맹 유교라는 용어가 틀렸다고 봅니다. 공자의 유교는 동서양 대부분의 학자들이 모르며, 공자와 맹자는 판이하게 다릅니다. 맹자와 순자의 유교는 군주에 대한 충성을 겅조한다는 점에서 같다고 생각합나다.
인성 논쟁도 맹자와 공자는 다르며, 인의도 공자와 맹자는 다릅니다 공자는 인을 올바른 것을 찾아가는 과정과 이를 실천하려고 살산성인 목숨을 바침이 두었는데 맹자는 측은지심이라는 천리나 먼 것에서 찾았습니다. 안중근이 아등박문을 죽이는 것은 인의입니다. 그런데 측은지심하면 죽이지 말아야 합니다.
예도 사양지심이라고 하는데 이는 공자의 예를 새소한 매너 수준을 파악악한 것입니다. 공자의 예는 천하를 바꾸는 이데올로기였습니다. 어떻게 이데올로기를 사양지심을 바꿀 수 있겠습니까.
저는 김일성 좋아하는 좌익에게 아무 말도 않습니다. 예는 사양지심이 아니기 때문입니다.
Reply59 m


김영훈
아주 좋네요, 두 분의 생각의 차이가 충분히 논쟁거리가 되고 또한 깊이 생각해보는 기회를 주네요.
두 분께 감사할 따름!
Reply22 w
Philo Kalia
김영훈 읽어 주시니 천망관중의 박수소리를 듣는듯 합니다. 🤣
Reply22 w
Troy Clapton Choi
교수님께 과외받고싶습니다 ㅎㅎ
Reply22 w
Philo Kalia
Troy Clapton Choi 영광입니다. ㅎㅎ
Reply22 w
손미옥
가장 본성은 죄없으신 순수? 하나님의 영을 받아 사람이 생령이 되었을 땐, 하나님께서 하나님만큼 존중하여 주신 자유의지가 존재했을 땐 아예 선악이 없는 에덴은 인간의 존재적 유토피아가 아니었을까요?
인간이 눈이 밝아져 선악을 알게된 때부터 인간의 고통이 시작되고 선악이 나뉘는 역사가 시작되지 않았을까 상상해봅니다.
흔히 말하는, 하나님께서 인간을 창조하실 때 자동인형으로 만들지 아니하시고 자유의지를 주신 것이 인간과의 참 대화와 소통하는 관계를 원하셨던 것이니 자유의지는 하나님의 레벨만큼이나 우리를 존중해 주시고 높여주심이라 생각합니다.
따라서 기독교는 원죄 이전에는 성악설이 성립되지 않는단 생각을 해봅니다.
원죄 이후 인간은 전적인 타락으로 성악설에 해당하고 저는 태창선생님의 입장이 더 와닿습니다.
그래서 복음이, 예수 그리스도의 구원론이 나올 수 밖에 없는 필연이구요.
공자의 인의예지(仁義禮知)는 피조물인 인간의 인성에 해당한다고 봅니다. 성선설의 仁은 인간이 잉태되었을 때는, 태고의 에덴동산의 원죄 이전 상태, 최초의 사람에게 생기를 불어넣어 주셨을 때의 선악 이전의 순수한 상태가 아닐까 상상해 봅니다. 인간에게 탯줄을 끊은 이후 배꼽이 남듯 그 이후 세상을 살아가면서 일말의 양심?으로 선의 흔적이 남아있고 선과 악이 공존하는 상태가 되지않았을까 생각해봅니다
저는 공자의 성선설보다 맹자의 성악설이 더 매력있게 다가오더이다. 기독교인이어서가 아니라, 선을 추구하며 현실적으로 선을 지켜나갈 수 있는 입장이기 때문에 역설적으로 세상에 악을 없애고 실질적인 선을 세워나갈 수 있기 때문이라 생각해서 입니다.
뜬금없는 얘기지만,
일전에 중독세미나에 참석한 적이 있었는데 전문가들이 말하길, 중독자가 치료의 가망성이 보이는 때가 역설적이게도 본인의 힘으로 절대 고칠 수 없다는 때가 되어야 한다는 것입니다.
마치 인간이 본인은 스스로 구제할 수 없는 전적으로 타락한 죄인임을 고백할 때 구원의 가능성이 시작되듯이 말입니다.
깊고 높고 넓은 학문적 경지에서 나누시는 대화에 저는 학자로서가 아닌 구냥 상식을 가진 일반 성도로서 제 의견을 개진한 것이오니 그릇된 견해가 있으시면 바로잡아 주시면 영광이겠습니다^^
Reply22 wEdited
Philo Kalia
손미옥 (1)하나님의 은총 아래 있는 인간이 계속 악만 저지르고 산다면 얼마나 하나님이 절망하실까요? 성악설, 성선설을 논의하자는 게 아닙니다. 해답이 없는 난제입니다. 다만 저는 하나님이 은총으로 주신 선한 본성을 믿을 뿐입니다. 세상의 그 어떤 惡한 것도 그리스도의 사랑에서 끊을 수 없다는 믿음이지요 (2)유학은 인간의 원래의 성품에 인의예지의 본성이 있다고 봅니다. 어린아이가 우물에 빠지는 것을 보고 경악하면서 구출하려고 달려가지 않을 사람이 어디 있을까요? 타락한 인간에게는 이런 본성이 없는 것인가요? (3)맹자 성선설이고 순자의 성악설입니다. 맹자의 성선이든 순자의 성악이든 인간의 원래 선한 본성을 회복하자는 사상입니다. 성선을 강조하면 덕성을 강조하게 되고 성악을 강조하게 되면 외왕(外王)의 방향으로 나갑니다. 內聖外王 (4)중독은 심각한 질병입니다. 타자의 도움이 있어야 중독에서 가까스로 벗어날 수 있을 겁니다. 벗어나서 주체로서 의존과 노예적 타율에서 자유로운 인간으로서 자립적으로 살아가는 것이 치유의 목표입니다. 그러나 중독에서 벗어나서도 타자에 계속 의존해서 살아간다면 이것 또한 온전한 해결책이 아닐 것입니다. (5)기독교의 원죄나 전적 타락이 인간의 본성을 짓누르고 억압하며 어둠 속에 가둬두고 영원히 죄책감에 시달리게 하는 인간론이 아니길 바랍니다. 기독교의 인간론의 현재와 미래는 구원받고 해방된 인간으로서 기쁨과 감사의 삶, 정의와 평화를 지어나가는 인간상이 아닐까요?
Reply21 w
Taechang Kim
Philo Kalia 일본에서는 여러
분야의 전문가들이 서로 다른
입장과 관점을 인정 존중하면
서, 가장 기본적인 동시에 가장
공통적인 문제의식이 될 수 있
는 화두로 도겐(道元1200-12
53 일본 曹洞宗의 개조)의 자력도와 신란(親鸞1173-1262 일본 浄土真宗의
개조)의 타력도를 둘러 싸고
오래고 신중한 논재이 이어지
고 있으며 전문가에 따라서는
정통유교는 도겐의 자력도에
가깝고 기독교는 신란의 타력도에 가깝다고 이해하면
참고가 될거라는 이야기를 합
니다. 한편 유교를 연구해온 사
람과 관심을 공유하는 사람들
은 주자학과 카토릭, 양명학과
개신교를 각각 연결시키면서
교황을 정점으로 하는 조직체
계와 계율과 행사에의 참여를
중시하는 카토릭은 다분히 주
자학적인 경향으로 이해하고
인간개개인의 근원적 선성과
그것의 발현(치양지)를 기본으
로 삼는 양명학의 특징으로 보고 개신교(특히 무교회주의
의 개신교)의 개인주체성을
강조하고 조직이라는 타자의
개입으로부터 자유로운 개개
인의 주체적인 하나님과의
관계설정의 필요성과 타당성을
강조합니다. 그러나 여기서
주의할 점은 어데까지나 불교
또는 유교의 입장과 관점에서
기독교를 앞에 놓고 대화가능
성을 모색하면서 함께 새로운
인식지평을 열어 보려는 노력
이라는 것입니다. 지금 저 자신
은 한국의 여러분과 함께 기독
교의 입장과 관점을 공유한다
는 전제에서 불교와 유교와의
대화가능성을 모색하고 함께
새로운 인식과 실천의 차원열
기를 시도하는데 중점을 둔다
는 것입니다. 어데까지나 각자
의 고유성과 가치성을 인정 존중하면서 함께 대화를 통해
서 새 차원 열기를 기도하려
면 우선 서로의 근원적인 차이
에 대한 철저한 인식 각성 자각
이 있고 거기서 함께 개신할 수
있는 차원 지평 경지를 열어 나
간다는 신중하고 인내있는 자
세와 의지가 필요하다는 것입
니다. 영합이나 흡수가 아닌
상호이해요 相反相成을 통한
共進化를 공통목표로 한다는
의지가 필요하다는 체험지입
니다.
Reply21 w
손미옥
심광섭 에공 맞자요.
순자가 성악설이었지요.
1. 성선설, 성악설을 들으면서 나름대로 떠오른는 저의 소견을 생각나는대로 적어보았을 뿐 저도 성선설 성악설을 논의하는 데 목적이 있었던 건 아닙니다. 저희가 악한 행동을 할 때, 안에 계신 성령님께서 슬피 우시지요. 존재론적 죄성-의인은 없나니 하나도 없다하심-을 말하는 것이지 저도 하나님의 자녀로서 의지적인 노력과 선택이 필요하다고 생각합니다. 다만 기독교가 다른 종교와 다른 것은 구원에 대한 하나님의 은혜가 감사한데서 출발하기에 교만이나 아상이 있을 틈이 없다는게 제가 특히 기독교를 좋아하는 이유이기도 합니다. 믿음도 선물인 것도 자랑치 못하게하려고 주신 것이니까요. 하나님은 사랑이시고 그 사랑과 공의가 십자가로 이루심요
2.믿지않는 사람에게도 양심이란 존재하므로 가능하다고 봅니다. 인간 존재는 점점 악해져 사이코패스의 인성,묻지마 살인 등도 나오는 시대에 살고 있습니다.
3.예수 안에서 새로운 피조물이 되었으니
이전것은 지나가고 보라 새것이 되었도다!
예수를 믿은 후 거듭남의 과정요.
4.중독
우리가 죄인임을 인정할 때 구원이 시작됨같이스스로의 상태가 매우 심각하고 문제가 있음을 부정하지않고 수용,인정할 때 어떤 치료든 출발이 된다는 의미에서 말씀드렸던 겁니다.
친절햐고 다감하신 답변 감사드려요~♡
Reply21 wEdited
Philo Kalia
Taechang Kim 오랜 경험에서 나온 지혜의 말씀에 공감, 동의합니다. 모든 만남과 대화의 시도와 결실은 차이를 전제로 한 것임은 당연한 전제이겠지요. 차이가 없다면 대화할 필요도 없을 것입니다. 다만 그 차이가 존재론적인 것인지, 역사적, 지리적, 사회적 상호작용에서 형성된 것인지는 논의의 여지가 있다고 생각됩니다. 또한 대화를 넘어 실천을 목표로 할 때 그 목표가 같지 않으면 공동 실천하기가 어려울 것으로 사료됩니다. 수천년의 역사를 통해 형성된 각각의 사상, 교리, 예전, 법, 관습 등을 무시하고 영합, 흡수하려는 식민주의적 발상의 시도는 대화가 아니라 폭력일 것입니다. 그리고 이런 종교간 대화와는 별도로 자신의 정신적 정체성을 확립하기 위한 제종교사상의 이해와 통합은 중요한 과제가 아닌가 생각합니다.
제가 개인적으로 유학과 도불을 공부하는 것은 그들 종교와 대화하려고 하는 것 보다 한국인으서 저 자신의 정신적 역량과 지평을 확장학고자 하는 것이기 때문에 궁극적으로는 儒佛道基가 활연관통되고 원융회통되어 일심에 이를 수 있다면 하는 소망이 있음을 말씀드리면서, 선생님의 지혜를 구하고자합니다.
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Taechang Kim
Philo Kalia 예. 저는 저 자신
의 문제보다는 한일관계의 악
화가 심신혼을 아프게 하기 때
문에 그 아픔을 함께 하는 분들
과 힘을 합쳐서 생명개신의 새
경지를 열어가는데 전력투구하
는 입장이라 자기정체성확립과
자타관계정상화를 가능한 변행
개신하려는 것입니다. 거기에
서양사상만이 아니라 중국사상
이 어떻게 영향을 미치고 우리
의 사고와 판단과 행위를 틀지
어 왔는가를 냉정하게 살펴보
고 있습니다. 저 자신은 중국고
전에의 맹신에서 벗어나야 한다는 생각이 있습니다. 한자
사용도 중국식 표현을 인용 차
용 원용하는 것으로는 중국화
의 함정에서 벗어나기 힘들어
서요. 중국에 가서 10년동안
중국인들과 치열한 대화를 해
보고 우리가 쓰는 한자표현이
결국 자기네의 모방 응용 적용
에 불과하다는 폄하적언급에
대항하기 위해서 한겨레의 감
성과 역사적 체험이 녹아 들어
있는 한자활용을 창안함으로
써 비로서 걸맞는 인정과 대화
가 가능했던 경험을 여러번 했
습니다. 영어도 서양 사람들이
미쳐 생각지 못했던 우리 생각
을 담은 신조어를 통해서 고유성과 개방성을 동시에 이해 납득시킬 수 있다는 경험
의 축적이 있습니다. 한자가
가진 동아시아사상-철학-문화-
예술-종교에서 갖는 소통창달
력을 중국모방적이 아닌 한민
주체적으로 선용-활용-창용하
는 효과는 큽니다.
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Philo Kalia
Taechang Kim 동북아 및 유럽의 맥락에서 한국 사상의 고유성과 보편성을 찾아 궁리하시는 선생님의 학문적 업적과 부단한 노력에 존경심을 가지고 있습니다. 저 또한 대학생 시절부터 토착화 신학과 민중신학을 통해, 선생님과 같은 안목과 관점을 익혀왔으며, 때문에 지금 intra- + inter religious Dialogue에 손원영 교수와 함께 진력하고 있는 것입니다. 유불도가 중국 및 인도에서 유입된 사상이지만 한국에 와서 신라, 고려, 조선 시대에 중국과 일본과는 다르게 뿌리내리고 성장했는지에 대한 연구, 그 이유는 무엇인지, 이런 맥락과 함께 하는 기독교 신학 연구는 절실하다고 생각하고 있습니다. 서양 모방, 중국 모방에서 벗어나 한국사상의 고유성과 보편성을 위한 연구들이 그간 다행스럽게 많이 나와 있고, 이 성과 위에서 고무되어 계속 공부할 수 있고, 미학적 관점을 더하기 할 수 있다는 것이 큰 행운입니다.
Reply21 wEdite


송명호
Taechang Kim 장자에 묻지도 않았는데 끼어든다는 불사이응이란 말이 있어서 용기를 냅니다.
저는 공맹 유교라는 용어가 틀렸다고 봅니다. 공자의 유교는 동서양 대부분의 학자들이 모르며, 공자와 맹자는 판이하게 다릅니다. 맹자와 순자의 유교는 군주에 대한 충성을 강조한다는 점에서 같다고 생각합니다.
인성 논쟁도 맹자와 공자는 다르며, 인의도 공자와 맹자는 다릅니다 공자는 인을 올바른 것을 찾아가는 과정과 이를 실천하려고 살신성인 목숨을 바침에 두었는데 맹자는 측은지심이라는 엉뚱한 것에서 찾았습니다. 안중근이 아등박문을 죽이는 것은 인의입니다. 그런데 측은지심하면 죽이지 말아야 합니다.
예도 사양지심이라고 하는데 이는 공자의 예를 사소한 매너 수준으로 파악한 것입니다. 공자의 예는 천하를 바꾸는 이데올로기였습니다. 어떻게 이데올로기를 사양지심으로 바꿀 수 있겠습니까.
저는 김일성 좋아하는 좌익에게 아무 말도 않습니다. 예는 사양지심이 아니기 때문입니다.
Reply53 m
송명호
저의 인터넷이 고장이라 모바일로 쓰다 보니 오타가 많아서 고쳐 올립니다. 죄송합니다. 위의 잘못된 글도 지우지 못해서입니다
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2022/09/14

Tenzin Palmo CAVE IN THE SNOW VICKI MACKENZIE selection

CAVE IN THE SNOW 
A WESTERN WOMAN’S QUEST 
FOR ENLIGHTENMENT 
 
VICKI MACKENZIE

Contents 
 
Map of Lahoul 
Chapter One: The Meeting 
Chapter Two: The Wrong Place 
Chapter Three: The Dawning – Finding the Path 
Chapter Four: The First Step 
Chapter Five: The Guru 
Chapter Six: Fear of the Feminine 
Chapter Seven: Lahoul 
Chapter Eight: The Cave 
Chapter Nine: Facing Death 
Chapter Ten: Yogini 
Chapter Eleven: Woman’s Way 
Chapter Twelve: Coming Out 
Chapter Thirteen: The Vision 
Chapter Fourteen: The Teacher 
Chapter Fifteen: Challenges 
Chapter Sixteen: Is a Cave Necessary? 
Chapter Seventeen: Now 
Acknowledgements 
Author’s Note 
Bibliography 
Footnote 
A Note on the Author

Chapter Ten Yogini



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Chapter Ten Yogini 

 The scenery outside her cave may have been awesome, but what of Tenzin Palmo’s inner world? This, after all, was what she had gone to the cave to discover. What was she seeing on that long journey inwards?
  •  Was she sitting there having visions, like watching TV? 
  • Was she being bathed in golden light? 
  • Hearing celestial voices? 
  • Experiencing waves of transcendent bliss? 
  • Or was she perhaps being tormented by the devils of her psyche, disturbed from the depths of her subconscious by those penetrating tools of meditation designed to dig deep beneath the surface?

 According to the legends of solitary mediators, this was what cave-dwelling was really all about. Up in his icy, barren cave the great yogi Milarepa, founder of Tenzin Palmo’s own lineage, after years of terrible deprivation and unwavering endeavour, found himself in a realm of surreal splendour. The walls and floor of his cave melted with the imprint of his hands, feet, buttocks where he pressed them into the rock. Goddesses appeared bringing him delicious morsels to stave off his hunger. His emaciated body, turned green from eating only nettle soup, was filled with intense ecstasy. In his dreams he could turn his body into any shape he wished, traversing the universe in any direction unimpeded. In his waking state he learnt to fly, crossing the valleys of his homeland at great speed, much to the consternation of the farmers ploughing the fields in the valley below. 

Was the fishmonger’s daughter from Bethnal Green experiencing any of this? No one will ever know exactly what Tenzin Palmo went through in all those years of solitary retreat, the moments of dazzling insight she might have had, the times of darkness she may have endured. 
She had learnt well from the Togdens, those humble yogis whose qualities had touched her so deeply, that one never reveals, let alone boasts, of one’s spiritual prowess. 
Getting rid of the ego, not enhancing it, was the name of the game. Besides, her tantric vows forbade her to divulge any progress she may have made. 
It was a long-held tradition, ever since the Buddha himself had defrocked a monk for performing a miracle in public, declaring the transformation of the human heart was the only miracle that really counted. 

‘Frankly I don’t like discussing it. It’s like your sexual experiences. Some people like talking about them, others don’t. Personally I find it terribly intimate,’ she said. 

When pressed, she conceded the barest essentials: 
‘Of course when you do prolonged retreats you are going to have experiences of great intensity – times when your body completely melts away, or when you feel the body is flying. You get states of incredible awareness and clarity when everything becomes very vivid.’ 

There were visions too – occasions when her guru Khamtrul Rinpoche appeared to her to advise her on her meditations. Other holy beings manifested in her cave as well. But these signs, normally taken as indications of supreme spiritual accomplishment, she dismissed as events of little true significance. 

’The whole point is not to get visions but to get realizations,’ she said sharply, referring to the stage when a truth stops being a mental or intellectual construct and becomes real. 
Only when the meditation dropped from the head to the heart, and was felt, could transformation begin to take place. 

‘And realizations are quite bare,’ she continued. ‘They are not accompanied by lights and music. We’re trying to see things as they really are. A realization is non-conceptual. It’s not a product of the thinking process or the emotions – unlike visions which come from that level. A realization is the white transparent light at the centre of the prism, not the rainbow colours around it.’ 

As for the bliss, that most attractive of all meditational states, did Tenzin Palmo know this? To the average lay person, sitting at home in her house reading about the heroic meditators, it was the bliss that made it all worthwhile – all the terrible hardships and deprivations, the lack of comfort and human companionship. Bliss, in short, was the reward.

 Certainly the one or two photographs taken of Tenzin Palmo at this time show a face suffused with happiness. ’There are states of incredible bliss. Bliss is the fuel of retreat,’she confirmed in her matter-of-fact voice. ‘You can’t do any long-term practice seriously unless there is inner joy, because the joy and enthusiasm is what carries you along. It’s like anything, if you don’t really like it you will have this inner resistance and everything is going to be very slow. That is why the Buddha named Joy as a main factor on the path.

’The only problem with bliss is that because it arouses such enormous pleasure, beyond anything on a worldly level, including sexual bliss, people cling to it and really want it and then it becomes another obstacle,’ she added, before launching on a story to illustrate her point. ‘Once when I was with the Togdens in Dalhousie there were two monks who were training to be yogis.’ One day they were standing outside shaking a blanket and they were so blissed out they could hardly stand up. You could actually feel these waves of bliss hitting you. The Togdens turned to me and said, “You know, when you start, this is what happens. You get completely overwhelmed by bliss and you don’t know what to do. After a while you learn how to control it and bring it down to manageable levels.” And it’s true. When you meet more mature practitioners they’re not completely speechless with all this great bliss, because they’ve learnt how to deal with it. And of course they see into its empty nature.

‘You see, bliss in itself is useless,’ she continued. ‘It’s only useful when it is used as a state of mind for understanding Emptiness – when that blissful mind is able to look into its own nature. Otherwise it is just another subject of Samsara. 

You can understand emptiness on one level but to understand it on a very subtle level requires this complement of bliss. The blissful mind is a very subtle mind and that kind of mind looking at Emptiness is a very different thing from the gross mind looking at emptiness. And that is why one cultivates bliss. 
‘You go through bliss. It marks just a stage on the journey. The ultimate goal is to realize the nature of the mind,’ she insisted. The nature of the mind, she said, was unconditioned, non-dual consciousness. It was Emptiness and bliss. It was the state of Knowing without the Knower. And when it was realized it wasn’t very dramatic at all. There was no cosmic explosion, no fanfare of celestial trumpets. ‘It’s like waking up for first time – surfacing out of a dream and then realizing that you have been dreaming. That is why the sages talk about all things being an illusion.

 Our normal way of being is muffled – it’s not vivid. It’s like breathing in stale air. Waking up is not sensational. It’s ordinary. But it’s extremely real.’ Nor apparently does the real thing happen in a Big Bang. ‘At first you get just a glimpse of it. That is actually only the beginning of the path. People often think when they get that glimpse that it is the whole thing, that they’ve reached the goal. Once you begin to see the nature of the mind then you can begin to meditate. Then after that you have to stabilize it until the nature of the mind becomes more and more familiar. And when that is done you integrate it into everyday life.’ At other times Tenzin Palmo’s revelations were decidedly more ordinary, although in her eyes equally valuable. There was the occasion one spring when the thaw of the winter snows had begun and her cave was being systematically flooded. ‘The walls and the floor were getting wetter and wetter and for some reason I was also not very well,’ she related. ‘I was beginning to think, “Oh dear, what they say about caves is really true,” and started to


feel very down.’ Suddenly the Buddha’s First Noble Truth which she had learnt when she first encountered Buddhism struck her with renewed force. ’I thought, “Why are you still looking for happiness in Samsara? and my mind just changed around. 

It was like: That’s right- Samsara is Dukka [the fundamental unsatisfactory nature of life]. It’s OK that it’s snowing. It’s OK that I’m sick because that is the nature of Samsara. There’s nothing to worry about. If it goes well that’s nice. If it doesn’t go well that’s also nice. It doesn’t make any difference. Although it sounds very elementary, at the time it was quite a breakthrough. Since then I have never really cared about external circumstances. 

In that way the cave was a great teaching because it was not too perfect,’ she said. If the results of meditation could be sensational, the path to Enlightenment was plodding and exceedingly hard work. There was a lot to do and an inconceivably long way to go. The lamas said if you reached there in three lifetimes you were moving incredibly quickly, for the task at hand was the transformation of the body, speech and mind into that of a Buddha. No less. 

Understanding this, the Tibetans had developed the Way into a science. Anyone could do it, given the texts which held the instructions, the initiations which conferred the empowerment and the right motivation which ensured the seeker did not fall into the abyss of self-interest. There were clear-cut paths to take, detailed directions to follow, delineated levels to reach each marked with their own characteristics so that you knew precisely where you were. There were specific landmarks to watch out for, special yogic exercises to do, and a myriad aids harnessing all the senses to propel the seeker forward. 

This was the mind working on the mind, consciousness working on consciousness, the task at hand unlocking the secrets of that three-pound universe contained within our own heads. In short, what Tenzin Palmo was engaging in was arguably the most important and significant adventure of all time – the exploration of inner space.


Dr Robert Thurman,
Professor of Indo-Tibetan Studies at Columbia University, New York, one of the world’s most lucid and entertaining exponents of Buddhism, put it this way: ‘What the meditator is doing in those long retreats is a very technical thing. He’s not just sitting there communing with the Great Oneness. He’s technically going down, pulling apart his own nervous system to become self-aware from out of his own cells. It’s like you are using Word Perfect and you are in the chip. And you are self-aware of being in the chip. The way you have done that is by stabilizing your mind where you can go down to the dots and dashes, and you’ve gone down and down even into that. 

‘In other words the Mahayana Buddhist, filled with the technical understanding of tantra, has become a quantum physicist of inner reality,’ he continued. ‘What he has done is disidentified from the coarse conceptual and perceptual process. He’s gone down to the neuronal level, and from inside the neuronal level he’s gone down to the most subtle neuronal level, or supra-neuronal level and he’s become where it is like the computer is self-consciously aware of itself. The yogi goes right down to below machine language – below the sub atomic level. ‘When you have done this what you have achieved is not some kind of mystical thing but some very concrete, evolutionary thing. It’s the highest level of evolution. That’s what the Buddha is defined as. The highest level of evolution.’ Personally Tenzin Palmo had never doubted the efficacy of the methods she was following. ‘Tibet had been producing Enlightened beings like an assembly line for centuries. For such a small population it was extraordinary,’ she said. 

Being a methodical and highly conscientious person, she had started at the beginning with the preliminary practices, which she had begun in Dalhousie and Lahoul long before she went into the cave. These consisted of certain rites such as mandala offerings, where the practitioner builds up a symbolic universe on small silver trays decorated with ‘precious’ items and offers it to all the Buddhas, or doing full-length prostrations, or mantra recitation. These are then performed literally hundreds of thousands of times in order to prepare and soften the mind for the esoteric tantric meditations that were to follow. In the cave Tenzin Palmo did them all again. At one point she fasted completely (although she would not reveal for how long). At another she conducted a partial fast while simultaneously doing prostrations and singing praises to Chenrezig, the thousand-armed Buddha of compassion. Always an extremely arduous exercise both physically and mentally, this time it was made even more difficult by the extreme conditions in which she was living. ‘It was winter and I didn’t have the right food. What I was eating was too heavy. When you fast it’s much better if you have light, nourishing food. So, physically it was quite tough. I got digestive problems and became very weak,’ she said, while refusing to amplify any further. Mentally, however, it worked. ‘The mind does become purified. The prayers are very beautiful and the mind grows extremely clear and light, very devoted and open,’ she confirmed. After she had done six months of purification practice, Tenzin Palmo had a dream. Arguably it revealed more than anything she said, the level of spiritual development she had reached. ‘I was in a prison, a vast prison composed of many different levels,’ she began. ‘On the top floor people were living in luxury, in penthouse type splendour, while in the basement others were undergoing terrible torture. In the intermediate floors the rest of the inhabitants were engaged in various activities in diverse conditions. Suddenly I realized that no matter what level people were on, we were all nevertheless trapped in a prison. With that I found a boat and decided to escape taking as many people as I could with me. I went all over the prison telling people of their


predicament and urging them to break free. But no matter how hard I tried, they all seemed to be locked in an awful inertia and in the end only two people had the will and the courage to come with me. ‘We got into the boat, and even though there were prison guards around, nobody stopped us as we sailed out of the prison to the world outside. Once we were there we started to run alongside the prison. As I looked over at it I could still see all the people in the windows busily engaged in their different activities, not the least concerned about the truth of their situation. We ran for miles and miles on a path parallel to the prison which seemed never-ending. I became increasingly exhausted and dispirited. I felt I was never going to get beyond the prison and that we might as well return and go back in. I was about to give up when I realized that the two other people who had followed me out had their hopes pinned on me and that if I gave up they would be doomed as well. I couldn’t let them down, so I kept going. ‘Immediately we came to a T-junction beyond which was a completely different landscape. It was like suburbia. There were these neat houses with flowery borders and trees. We came to the first house and knocked at the door. A nice middle-aged woman opened it, looked at us and said, “Oh, you’ve come from that place. Not many people get out. You’ll be OK now, but you must change your clothes. To go back would be dangerous, but you must try to help others also to get out.” At that point I had a great surge of aspiration. “I have tried but no one wants to come,” I told the woman. She replied, “Those in power will be helping you.” At that I said, “I dedicate myself to working with them so that I can help free all beings.” ‘I woke up at that point – and giggled at the image of the middle-aged lady in suburbia,’ she said. The dream was clear. In her subconscious Tenzin Palmo had pledged herself to lead the great escape out of the prison of Samsara, the realms of suffering existence we’re condemned to until we reach the eternal freedom of


Enlightenment. She had also internalized, it seemed, the Bodhisattva ideal of unconditioned altruism. When she was not doing her preliminary practices she worked on her Single Pointed Concentration – the meditative discipline which trains the mind to focus single-pointedly on one subject without interruption. Yogis were said to be able to stay in this state for days, weeks, months even, without moving, their mind totally absorbed on the wonders of their inner reality. Single Pointed Concentration, or Samadhi, was essential for penetrating the nature of reality and discovering absolute truth. It was also exceedingly difficult, the mind habitually wanting to dance all over the place flitting from one random thought to another, from fantasy to fantasy, perpetually chattering away to itself, expending vast quantities of energy in an endless stream of trivia. The mind was like a wild horse, they said, that needed to be reined in and trained. When the mind’s energy was harnessed and channelled like a laser beam on a single subject, its power was said to be tremendous. Ultimately this was the high-voltage power-tool needed to dig down into the farthest reaches of the mind, unlocking the greatest treasures buried there. ‘For any practice to work,’ said Tenzin Palmo, ’the mind which is meditating and the object of meditation must merge. Often they are facing each other. One has to become completely absorbed, then the transformation will occur. The awareness naturally drops from the head to the heart – and when that happens the heart opens and there is no “I”. And that is the relief. When one can learn to live from that centre rather than up in the head, whatever one does is spontaneous and appropriate. It also immediately releases a great flow of energy because it is not at all obstructed as it usually is by our own intervention. One becomes more joyful and light, in both senses of the word,


A young Tenzin Palmo (centre), then known as Diane Perry, in her home town, London. ‘Three times a bridesmaid, never a bride - I better do it and make sure,’ she had said.


Gerald York (editor of a Buddhist magazine), a youthful Chogyam Trungpa (Tenzin Palmo’s first meditation teacher), and author John Blofeld (Tenzin Palmo’s future sponsor), at the Buddhist Society Summer School, Hertfordshire, 1962.


Aged twenty-one in 1964, just after her novice ordination. Tenzin Palmo wrote to her mother on the back: ‘You see? I look healthy! I should have been laughing then you would know that I am also happy!’


‘Kailash’, the former British hill station house in Dalhousie which Freda Bedi turned into her Young Lama’s Home School. Tenzin Palmo’s first port of call in India, 1964.


A class of young Tulkus (reincarnated lamas) whom Tenzin Palmo taught at Kailash, Dalhousie, 1964.


Early days in Dalhousie, 1966. Choegyal Rinpoche (who taught Tenzin Palmo Buddhist stories), Khamtrul Rinpoche (Tenzin Palmo’s guru), Lee Perry (Tenzin Palmo’s mother) and Togden Anjam.


Tenzin Palmo, one of the first Western women to receive full Bhikshuni ordination, Hong Kong, 1973. Sakya Trizin, Tenzin Palmo’s ’second’ guru, remarked, ‘You look like a bald-headed Virgin Mary!’


Some of the monks whom Tenzin Palmo befriended during her six-year stay at Tayul monastery, Lahoul, between 1970 and 1976.


Houses of the monks and nuns of Tayul monastery. The flat roofs provided perfect venues for winter parties.


Still close: renowned artist Choegyal Rinpoche and Tenzin Palmo with the late 8th Khamtrul Rinpoche in the background. Tashi Jong monastery, Kangra Valley, 1997.


Tenzin Palmo with the ‘new’ 9th Khamtrul Rinpoche, Tashi Jong, 1997.


Togden Cholo, one of the elite meditators of Tashi Jong and a close friend of Tenzin Palmo.


The young 8th Khamtrul Rinpoche in Tibet, circa 1958, surrounded by the regalia of his unique status. Shortly afterwards he was a refugee.


The stupa (reliquary) Tenzin Palmo built on a ledge outside her cave as an act of religious devotion.


Inside Tenzin Palmo’s cave, showing the wood-burning stove, table, bookcase with cloth-wrapped texts, pictures of Buddhas, and the meditation box. ‘People were surprised how neat and tidy it was. It was a very pukka cave,’ she said.


Outside the cave, drying out her soaked possessions after the spring thaw – the cave leaked dreadfully. Note the size of her meditation box (upright to the left of the cave), her ‘bed’ for twelve years.


Tenzin Palmo’s garden in which she grew turnips and potatoes (her only source of fresh food) and flowers.


13,200 feet above sea level, a cave with a view! 

During the eight-month-long winter Tenzin Palmo was presented with a solid wall of white. because it’s going back to the source, the heart, rather than being in exile in the head. Our modern scientific approach has thrown such emphasis on the brain, we’re all so cut off. That is why so many people feel life is meaningless and sterile.’


When she had finished all her preparations she got down to the core of her practice, tantra – the alchemical process which promised the transformation to full awakening. If the end result was magical, the business of getting there was infinitely prosaic and, some would say, horribly tedious. Every day for the months and years she was in formal retreat inside her cave she got into her meditation box and followed the same gruelling, utterly repetitive routine: Up at 3 a.m. for the first three-hour meditation session; 6 a.m. breakfast (tea and tsampa); 8 a.m.back into the box for the second three-hour meditation session;11 a.m. lunch and a break; 3 p.m. return to the box for the third three-hour meditation session; 6 p.m. tea; 7 p.m. the fourth three-hour session; 10 p.m. ‘bed’ – in the meditation box! All in all that amounted to twelve hours of meditation a day - day in, day out, for weeks, months and years on end. Ironically for a woman who left the world, she had a clock to time all her sessions and was living a life as disciplined and structured as any worker on the factory floor. For all the mind-numbing monotony she was never bored. ’Sometimes I would think that if I were having to watch the same TV programme four times a day I’d have gone up the wall,’ she said candidly. ‘But in retreat there’s a pattern that emerges. At first it is very interesting. Then you hit a period when it’s excruciatingly boring. And then you get a second wind after which it becomes more and more fascinating until at the end it’s much more fascinating and interesting than it was in the beginning. That’s how it is even if you’re doing the same thing four times a day for three years. It’s because the material begins to open up its real meaning and you discover level after level of inner significance. So, at the end you are much more involved in it and totally identified with it than you were at the beginning,’ she said. She remained deliberately vague about the precise nature of the material she was working with. ‘I was doing very old traditional practices ascribed to the Buddha himself. He revealed them to various great masters who then wrote


them down after having realized them themselves. They involve a lot of visualization and internal yogic practices,’ she hinted. ‘Basically, you use the creative imaginative faculty of the mind to transform everything, both internally and externally. The creative imagination in itself is an incredibly powerful force. If you channel it in the right way it can reach very deep levels of mind which can’t be accessed through verbal means or mere analysis. This is because on a very deep level we think in pictures. If you are using pictures which have arisen in an Enlightened mind, somehow that unlocks very deep levels in our own minds. ‘What you are dealing with are images which are a reflection of the deepest qualities within oneself,’ she continued. ‘They are reflections of one’s Buddha mind, therefore they are a skilful means for leading you back to who one really is. That’s why, when you practise, things occur and experiences happen.’ Maybe it was her Cockney upbringing which taught her to be cheerful in adversity and gave her resilience, maybe it was her psychological make-up, which was unusually well-balanced and unneurotic, or perhaps it was that for some reason she was predisposed to be up in the mountains meditating all alone, but Tenzin Palmo claims that for her there was no dark night of the soul. There was never a moment when those legendary demons confronted by other recluses rose up to torment and taunt. She suffered no moments of madness, no paranoia, no agonizing periods of doubt or depression. And not for a second was she prey to the barbs of lust that seemed to attack the most ‘holy’ of male hermits. ‘I found myself surrounded by bands of dancing girls. My face was pale with fasting but though my limbs were cold as ice my mind was burning with desire and the forces of lust kept bubbling up before me when my flesh was as good as dead,’ cried St Jerome before going off to flagellate himself in repentance. None of this happened to Tenzin Palmo. ‘I didn’t encounter anything that was particularly awful – maybe because I didn’thave a traumatic childhood. I was very lucky in that respect,’she suggested.


While she may not have hit the spiritual wall in any dramatic fashion, she claims she did not get off scot-free. The pitfalls were there, lethal just the same. It was inevitable. With no social life to distract her, no roles to fulfil, no other person to deflect her feelings on to, the masks all fell away. Now the mirror was held up to herself. It was not always a comfortable sight. ‘In retreat you see your nature in the raw, and you have to deal with it,’ she said. ‘I may not have heavy negative karma but that does not mean my problems don’t exist. They are just not so transparent and therefore more difficult to catch,’ she said. She elaborated:’When you get into the practice you begin to see how it should be done, and when it is not you begin to ask yourself “why?"In my case it came down to laziness, a fundamental inertia. That’s my main problem. It’s tricky. It’s not like facing the tigers and wolves of anger and desire. Those sort of problems you can grapple with. My failings are much more insidious they hide in the undergrowth so that they are more difficult to see,’ she confessed. The laziness she was referring to was not the idleness of sitting around doing nothing, of being slothful, of engaging in frivolous tasks. Tenzin Palmo could never be accused of that. Instead it was laziness of a much more subtle kind. ‘One knows how to practise, and of that one is perfectly capable. But one settles for second or third best. It is like getting the progress prize at school – one is not really doing one’s best. It’s a very low grade of effort and it is much more serious than having a bad temper. The times when I have genuinely put my whole self into something, the results have surprised even me.’ Inside her cave she was doing more than just sit in her meditation box. During her break she painted – beautiful pictures of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas. She copied out texts for her monastery in the elegant calligraphy that she had taught herself. And as she had done all her life, she read prolifically and deeply all the works she could get her hands on about the Buddha and about teachings, including works belonging to other traditions. It was highly unusual –


most Tibetan Buddhists never stepped outside their own literature. This learning was to hold in her good stead later on (in a way she could hardly imagine), when she would draw on it time and time again to back up a point she was making. ‘I think it’s very important for Westerners who come from such a totally different background to really study the foundations of Buddhism – what the Buddha taught. If you read the very early sutras, the early Theravadin tradition is the foundation for everything which came after it. Without having really understood what the foundation was you cannot really appreciate what comes after. As Western Buddhists I think we have a responsibility to the Buddhist dharma,’ she reasoned. Curiously in amongst this plethora of Buddhism there was one token of Christianity – the autobiography of St Teresa of Lisieux. In spite of Tenzin Palmo’s antipathy to the Christian religion in general, she was drawn to the French saint who had entered a Carmelite nunnery when she was just fifteen and who had died at the age of twenty-four. She read her story several times and could quote from it at will. ’The ironic thing is that the “little way” that she wrote about had nothing to do with the Way that I practised. What I liked about her, however, was that she was very sensible. She sometimes slept through the church services and it did not worry her that she slept. God would have to accept her as she was! She never worried about her faults so long as her aspiration was right! She had this thing that she was like a small bird scratching around looking for seeds, glancing at the sun but not flying near it. She reasoned that she didn’t have to because the sun was shining even on a small being like a bird. Her whole attitude was very nice. She described herself as “a little flower” by the wayside which nobody sees but in its own self is very perfect as it is. And to me that is her primary message – that even in small, little ways we can be fulfilling our purpose and that in little things we can accomplish much.’


She went on: ’St Teresa was interesting because from the outside she didn’t do anything. She performed no miracles, saw no visions, yet she was extremely devout. However, she must have been special because her Mother Superior made her write her story, which was completely unusual. A photograph taken of her at her death shows how beatific she looked. She had said that she wanted to spend her heaven doing good on earth. That’s a Bodhisattva aspiration – you don’t loll around in heaven singing praises, you get on and do something good,’she said. Tenzin Palmo may have removed herself from the world but others were certainly not forgotten. Over the years she had developed a lengthy correspondence with a wide variety of people, some of whom she had not seen for years. When she was not in strict retreat she would faithfully answer all of their letters, which were delivered by Tshering Dorje along with her supplies. Sometimes there were as many as sixty. She looked upon these friendships as ’treasures’ in her life. ‘I have met some truly wonderful people – and I am always grateful for that,’ she said. Her friends, family and the multitude of sentient beings she did not know were also included in her prayers and meditations. ‘You automatically visualize all beings around you. In that way they partake of whatever benefits may occur,’ she said. It was part of her Bodhisattva vow, for true Enlightenment could not be reached without bringing all living beings to that state. How could one be sincerely happy anyway, knowing countless others were enduring untold miseries throughout every realm of existence? Albert Einstein, arguably the West’s greatest guru, knew this too: ‘A human being is a part of the whole called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest, a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty,’ he


had said, using the same metaphor of a prison that had occured in Tenzin Palmo’s dream. Tenzin Palmo was a firm believer in the efficacy of prayer. ‘Actually one doesn’t have to be a great yogi to help others - the practices in themselves have great power and blessing,’ she commented. ‘I believe there are infinite beings embodying intelligence and love, always beaming in, always trying to help. We just have to open up. So you can definitely pray to theBuddhas and Bodhisattvas, but it’s better not to pray for a bicycle at Christmas. Rather pray for spiritual growth that can flower in the mind. Pray to lesser beings for a bicycle. Just as if you wanted to get a tax return you wouldn’t write to the Prime Minister but to some semi-minor official. If you wanted to stop war you’d write to the Prime Minister,’ she said. After all those hours of meditating, those twelve years of sitting in her box looking inwards in her cave, did she improve? ‘Like anything else, if you practise long enough it gets easier. For example, if you are learning to play the piano, in the beginning your fingers are very stiff and you hit many wrong notes, and it is very awkward. But if you continually practise it gets easier and easier. But even so, although a concert pianist is very skilled at playing, still his difficulties are there. They may be at a higher level and not apparent to other people but he sees his own problems,’ she said, modest as always. In the end had it all been worth it? After that protracted extraordinary effort, the hardships, the self-discipline, the renunciation, what had she gained? The answer came back quick as a flash. ‘It’s not what you gain but what you lose. It’s like unpeeling the layers of an onion, that’s what you have to do. My quest was to understand what perfection meant. Now, I realize that on one level we have never moved away from it. It is only our deluded perception which prevents our seeing what we already have. The more you realize, the more you


realize there is nothing to realize. The idea that there’s somewhere we have got to get to, and something we have to attain, is our basic delusion. Who is there to attain it anyway?’






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Chapter Twelve Coming Out. 
 
Tenzin Palmo may have been content to sit there in her cave meditating indefinitely, but the world literally came knocking. One day in the summer of 1988 she was startled out of her solitude by the appearance of the police. Paying no heed to the boundary fence, 
erected specifically to keep all visitors out, nor to the accepted etiquette never to disturb solitary practitioners, the policeman barged right into her compound, knocked loudly on the door and demanded to know why she had an illegal visa. He went on to state in no 
uncertain terms that if she did not appear at the local police station the next day she would be arrested. It was the first voice Tenzin Palmo had heard in three years, the first figure she had seen. By any one’s accounts it was a rude awakening. Complying with this 
onslaught of officialdom, she obediently descended from her mountain to confront the new Superintendent of Police, who told her he was very sorry about the situation but he had no choice but to give her a Quit India notice. She would have to leave the country in 
ten days. 
Patiently Tenzin Palmo explained to the Superintendent that she had been in India for twenty-four years and was not prepared to leave in ten days. Furthermore, she went on, it wasn’t her fault that her visa was not in order, as she’d left the matter with the 
previous incumbent who had been renewing it on her behalf. Faced with her utter reasonableness and obvious sincerity, the Superintendent softened and said that as he was going on holiday for a month he did not have to give her notice immediately, as he had 
thought, but that eventually she would have to leave. Until the matter was sorted out he graciously gave her permission to return to her cave and resume what she was doing. 
Tenzin Palmo climbed her mountain once more but it was no use. She had been seen, she had been forced to speak, and by the spiritual laws laid down, her retreat was thereby irrevocably broken. She could not continue. By rights she should have been furious 
or at least bitterly disappointed. She had done three years in the last serious bout of retreat but the fruits could not be fully realized, it was said, until the final three months, three weeks and three days had been done. After such sustained dedication and diligence 
she could well have ranted at the Superintendent or wept silently back in her cave. It would have been reasonable. Instead she laughed and said: ‘Certainly, it was not the way you are meant to finish a retreat. You are meant to stay there for a few days and slowly get 
used to seeing people again.’ 
Word soon got out that Tenzin Palmo’s retreat had ended and friends now sought her out, eager to see for themselves the results of that long period of meditation and solitude. Was she still all right? Had that prolonged period of introspection and isolation sent 
her mad, or slightly deranged? Maybe she had been transfigured into a glorious being of light, surrounded by rainbows, as the fabulous stories of yore told? If the people who came looking had expected to see a major metamorphosis, however, they were to be 
disappointed. 
‘It wasn’t so much that Tenzin Palmo had changed, more that her qualities were enhanced. The warmth, the mental sharpness, the humour were all still there, but more so. There was growth. It was as though she already had the talent and the capacity and then 
put the effort behind it. She is very single-minded,’ reported Didi Contractor, the woman who had vetted Tenzin Palmo’s cave to make sure it was habitable when she first went to live there and who had known many great spiritual teachers and their followers during 
her years in India. 


‘I don’t think anyone on the outside can see the results of what she managed in the cave. What she accomplished was between her and the Deity (I’d rather say that than the Nothingness).One can only go by the symptoms. Certainly she has stature and an 
integrity of character which is very developed. She also has a completeness. Tenzin Palmo is always completely consistent and always completely kind. But I don’t know whether that is either a proof or a fruit of her spiritual search. It could be part of who she is that 
makes it possible for her to take up the search. I would say, however, that Tenzin Palmo has got further than any of the other many western seekers I’ve met,’ she commented. 

Another visitor was Lia Frede, a German woman who lived in a beautiful house in the hills of Dharamsala, and who had known Tenzin Palmo for some years. She also had had a long interest in spiritual matters, particularly Vipassana meditation, and had 
conducted several retreats herself. Coincidentally Lia was leading a small trek in Lahoul, studying the ecology of the region, when she heard the news that Tenzin Palmo was ‘out’. 
‘I was delighted to have the chance to talk to her because I wanted to know what she had accomplished,’ she said frankly.’The day is etched clearly on my mind. I had terrible trouble finding the cave, it was so well blended in with the rest of the mountain – but we 
eventually got there. I was a little shy about intruding so I left my two companions at the gate and went inside and called. Immediately Tenzin Palmo came out, smiled happily and said, “Come in, come in, bring your friends, I’ve just baked bread. Would you like 
tea?” It was as though she had seen me yesterday. She was totally normal. I remember sitting there thinking it was all so incongruous. There we were in the cave having this delicious fresh bread with roasted sesame on it and chatting away. It was as though we were 
in the middle of England having afternoon tea. 

‘As she walked us back down the path I asked her what results she had got from her retreat. I didn’t like to ask her outright if she’d got Enlightened but I was waiting for her to tell me of some transcendent experience she’d had. It was certainly what I would have 
expected. Instead she looked at me and replied, “One thing I can tell you – I was never bored.” That was it. I was waiting for more, but nothing else was said. It has always puzzled me that that was the only statement she made. ‘ Tenzin Palmo was obviously being as tight-lipped as ever. 


If Tenzin Palmo was revealing nothing, Lia, like Didi, could see for herself clearly her friend’s exceptional qualities. ‘Tenzin Palmo has deep-seated purity and, I would say, innocence. And the other thing is that she has true equanimity. Things that happen to her 
she neither objects nor supports – she neither pushes nor obstructs. She has this neutrality. She deals with what is happening without attaching any ego involvement to it. It’s not that she’s trying, the ego is just not there. I was amazed by her reaction when she 
was trapped in her cave and she thought she was going to die. I know if I had been in that situation I would have panicked. Instead she calmly did her death meditations. And when I heard that her supplies didn’t arrive and she almost starved, I was furious! I would 
have wanted to know why. She never bothered to find out though. Nor did she blame the Superintendent for breaking up her retreat. She knows that people have their karma. Still, to me that amount of equanimity shows a definite degree of spiritual advancement.’ 
More relevant than people’s impressions of Tenzin Palmo was her response to them. Having been isolated from people and the ways of the world for so long, what was it like suddenly coming into contact with them again, having to make conversation, having to 
deal with the noise and mundanity of everyday life? According to the testimonies of other Western retreatants, who had ventured into shorter periods of silence and seclusion, re-entry into the world was a shocking experience, an assault on the senses and the 
psyche which left them reeling. They reported that it took weeks for them to recover and reintegrate back into society. Tenzin Palmo had been cut off from human contact for infinitely longer and had, by her own admission, been removing layer upon layer of outer 
coverings. Her sensitivity must have been honed to finer levels than ever before. ‘At first talking to people was exhausting, not at the time, but afterwards I found myself very tired. But after a while it was OK,’ she conceded. 
Curiously, rather than making her less capable of dealing with people, less willing to enter into relationship with the world as one might expect, the cave seemed to have the opposite effect. Palmo was not traumatized by meeting the world again, and was 
witnessed being exceptionally sociable, very chatty, and super-sensitive to the needs and suffering of humanity. It was as big a sign as any that her meditations in the cave had worked. 
’Tenzin Palmo has a large compassion – an unruffled compassion,’ commented Lia Frede. ’She’s really very unjudgemental and gives her ear and advice to anyone, be it a sinner or a saint. She’s neutral – she doesn’t mind whether someone has just affronted her 
or been nice to her. It is something I’ve noticed in other spiritually advanced beings. Anyone who comes to her with a problem, she’s always willing to help. That’s why people seek her company, because it has a purifying influence when you are with a person like 
that.’ 
‘I have the kind of mind that wherever I am that’s where I am,’ was Tenzin Palmo’s attitude. ‘I think I have two sides to my nature – one is this basic need to be alone, the love of isolation, the other is a sociability and friendliness. I don’t know if I am particularly 
warm towards others but I do know that whoever I am with I feel they are the most important person in the world at that time. Internally there is always this feeling of wishing them well. So although I love to be alone, when I’m with others that’s fine too.’ 
Now, thrust into the mainstream of the world once more, Tenzin Palmo could see for herself if she had changed. Had there been a transformation? That, ultimately, was the only valid test of her spiritual practices, for no amount of retreat could have been said to 
have worked unless there was a fundamental shift, a turning around of your old, habitual ways of seeing and being. Up there on her mountain, in splendid isolation, she may have been thoroughly absorbed in the eternal verities but could that experience stand up 
to the challenge of everyday life? 
’There is a kind of inner freedom which I don’t think I had when I started – an inner peace and clarity. I think it came from having to be self-sufficient, having nothing or no one to turn to whatever happened,’ she said. ‘Also while I was in retreat everything became 
dreamlike, just as the Buddha described. One could see the illusory nature of everything going on around one – because one was not in the middle of it,’ she continued, using the impersonal pronoun in order to deflect attention from any realizations she may have 
had! ‘And then when you come out you see that people are so caught up in their life – we identify so totally with what we’ve created. We believe in it so completely. That’s why we suffer – because there’s no space for us.’ 
‘Now I notice that there is an inner distance towards whatever occurs, whether what’s occurring is outwards or inwards. Sometimes, it feels like being in an empty house with all the doors and windows wide open and the wind just blowing through without 
anything obstructing it. Not always. Sometimes one gets caught up again, but now one knows that one is caught up again.’ 
While being like ‘an empty house’ may seem desirable to a meditator, to the average person, brought up on the notion that passion and emotional involvement is what gives life its colour and verve, such a state could seem vapid and remote. Was being an 
‘empty house’ the same as being a ’shell’ of a person – cold and unfeeling? And what is the difference between detachment and being cut off from your emotions anyway? A study conducted at a London hospital among children who were left for weeks without 
visitors showed that it was at the point when they stopped crying and became in the eyes of the staff ‘good’, that the harm was done. Follow-up studies showed that these children had developed the potential for psychotic behaviour. The stage at which they 
stopped crying was when some vital feeling part of them had ’died’. Was being detached being alienated? 


Tenzin Palmo, as might be expected, refuted all such insinuations. ‘It’s not a cold emptiness,’ she stated emphatically, ‘it’s a warm spaciousness. It means that one is no longer involved in one’s ephemeral emotions. One sees how people cause so much of their 
own suffering just because they think that without having these strong emotions they’re not real people. 
‘Why does one go into retreat?’ she went on hotly. ‘One goes into a retreat to understand who one really is and what the situation truly is. When one begins to understand oneself then one can truly understand others because we are all interrelated. It is very 
difficult to understand others while one is still caught up in the turmoil of one’s emotional involvement – because we’re always interpreting others from the standpoint of our own needs. That’s why, when you meet hermits who have really done a lot of retreat, say 
twenty-five years, they are not cold and distant. On the contrary. They are absolutely lovely people. You know that their love for you is totally without judgement because it doesn’t rely on who you are or what you are doing, or how you treat them. It’s totally 
impartial. It’s just love. It’s like the sun – it shines on everyone. Whatever you did they’d still love you because they understand your predicament and in that understanding naturally arises love and compassion. It’s not based on sentiment. It’s not based on 
emotion. Sentimental love is very unstable, because it’s based on feed-back and how good it makes you feel. That is not real love at all.’ 
It may not have been psychological but there was severing going on in Tenzin Palmo’s life just the same. As it turned out, the Superintendent’s edict had a far more dramatic effect than terminating her retreat. It brought to an end an entire era. Now the utterly 
unexpected happened. After a lifetime of being enamoured with the East in general and Tibetan Buddhism in particular, she began to feel the pull of her own culture. For the first time in the twenty-four years that she had been living in India, the West beckoned. 
She explained: ‘I felt my time in India had drawn to a close, that I needed to get back to the West and rediscover my roots. After all, I am not Tibetan. When I worked in the library in Hackney I had a boyfriend who was into classical music, architecture, art, old 
churches, that kind of thing. He loved to talk about it all and go to concerts and galleries. I was very fascinated. Then I became a Buddhist when I was eighteen and renounced all that! My whole focus turned. After twenty-four years of being in India and reading 
nothing but dharma books, however, I felt there was this huge void in my life and that I hadn’t finished what I was supposed to have done.’ 
Having no idea of where she wanted to go, Tenzin Palmo did what she always did in such situations – remained still and waited for the ‘voice’ to speak to her. In the meantime her many friends, scattered all around the world, began to write inviting her to their 
countries. She contemplated America, Australia, England, but none seemed right. Then an American friend, Ram, whom she had met in India, wrote saying he had found the perfect place – Assisi. Why didn’t she join him and his wife there? She had never been to 
Assisi, but once she read the name the voice spoke out loud and clear. 
’That’s it,’ she said, clicking her fingers. 
Without sentimentality or sadness Tenzin Palmo prepared to leave the Cave of Great Bliss. It had consumed a colossal chunk of her life, her ‘prime years’ between the ages of thirty-three and forty-five, but to her it seemed nothing. ‘The thing that struck me most 
was where had all the time gone? Time just condensed. The last three years in particular just flew past. It seemed like four months at most,’ she commented. 
Without haste she packed her few belongings, bade farewell to her Lahouli friends and made her way to the West and the cradle of the greatest flowering of Western culture, Italy, birthplace of the Renaissance. She had come full circle. Coming into the world, 
leaving it, and then returning. She arrived at the pretty medieval town of Assisi, built on the flanks of Mount Subasio in Umbria, in the dead of night but knew instantly she’d made the right choice. It could have been the small clusters of picturesque houses perched 
on mountain-tops so reminiscent of Lahoul, or the aura of sanctity left by St Francis which still hung in the air, or even the fact that there were several Indian ashrams in the area, but the moment Tenzin Palmo arrived she felt at home. 
‘I felt a very strong connection with Assisi. To this day it’s the only place I miss, including my cave. There’s a special, ineffable quality about it which is palpable in spite of the millions of tourists who flock there each year. It’s not an ordinary place. It’s the centre 
for world peace and holds a lot of inter-faith conferences. And many people have reported having spiritual experiences there, strong transformative experiences,’ he said. 
She moved into the bottom floor of a house belonging to a friend of Ram’s and proceeded to rediscover her Western roots with delight. She roamed the charming, narrow streets of the town, often at night and alone, feeling quite safe. She visited the famous 
double basilica housing St Francis’s tomb, marvelling in the exquisite frescoes, especially those by Giotto. And she climbed the mountain, curious to see another cave, the one inhabited by St Francis who had prayed so hard to God to let him know the suffering of 
Jesus that not only did the stigmata appear on his hands and feet but actual nails manifested too. Over the five years she lived in Assisi Tenzin Palmo developed a strong devotion to St Francis and would spend hours meditating in his cave when there were no 
tourists around. 
‘It was a very different cave from mine because it has this church built over it. But it was great! There are still doves in the tree outside, descendants of ones St Francis bought from a seller and left there to multiply. I loved his animal stories. Do you know he had 
a cicada and they’d sing to each other?He was a very vivid saint,’ she said. 
Once Tenzin Palmo revealed that she felt she had been a Christian monk in one of her many lifetimes. ‘The feeling when I go into cloisters is very strong. It’s almost deja vu. And I’ve always had an affinity with the enclosed orders. I think I probably decided to go 
to the East when the Christian tradition stopped going anywhere. It would make sense,’ she divulged. 

The austerities that she had submitted herself to for so long now gave way to a few indulgences. She learnt to eat pasta and developed a liking for cappuccino and tiramisu (although she claimed her favourite dish was still rice, vegetables and dhal).She watched 
videos, especially old black and white 1940s movies. More than this, she buried herself in her friends’ vast library and music collection, soaking up her European heritage like a dry sponge. ‘It was as though the whole Western part of myself had been ruptured and 
needed to be healed and put back together again.’ She now allowed herself to read novels, veering towards French authors and stories with a religious plot like Umberto Eco’s The Name of the Rose. And she devoured anything she could find on medieval history, 
devoting herself to this new learning with the same thoroughness with which she had tackled Buddhism. The period around the twelfth and thirteenth century, the time when St Francis lived, particularly appealed to her. ‘There was a lot of intellectual ferment and 
scholastic debate going on then – a lot of stuff coming from the Arabs and Jews and they were slowly beginning to discover the Greeks. It was also the time of the growth of the mendicant orders when very great saints and artists were around,’ she explained. 
She also plunged into the biographies and writings of the Christian saints and philosophers: St Teresa of Avila, St John of the Cross, Thomas Aquinas, the Desert Fathers, Thomas Merton, the Philokalia, the scriptures from the Orthodox Church, and much much 
more. As she read, her appreciation for the religion she had once dismissed grew and with it came a new understanding and pride in her Western identity. 
’The Tibetans generally regard us as barbarians. They think we’re very good at inventing the motor car, but have nothing much inside, and so in terms of real culture are barren. At a certain point that is very disempowering. It is just like when the Christian 
missionaries went abroad and denigrated whatever culture they found themselves in, thinking theirs was the only true one,’ she said. ‘I began to see it isn’t true. We are not all McDonalds and Coca Cola. We have incredible philosophy and art and an incredible 
spiritual tradition. Western thought is very sophisticated and I discovered that in matters of the religion it was all there. 

Personally, I still found the Buddhist analysis of the Path the most clear and complete for someone like me, but it was so good to see the same 
insights being stated albeit in a different way. These things are important to know.’ Then she added with a wry smile, ‘Interestingly when Buddhism first went to Tibet the Indians thought the Tibetans were “barbarians” too. They didn’t want to hand over the 
precious Buddha dharma to them because they thought they would mess it up!’ 
Most of all Tenzin Palmo discovered the pleasure of music, which fed some long-neglected part of herself. She steeped herself in the classical composers – Bach, Handel, Haydn and her favourite, Mozart. ‘It was a wonderful thing to find Mozart. I completely fell 
in love with him,’ she declared. ‘It was something quite profound at a certain level. It was very moisturizing. I think I had become extremely dry, somewhere,’ she said candidly. 


Knowingly or not, Tenzin Palmo was balancing East with West, asceticism with sensuality, solitude with sociability giving herself a more rounded personality. In this way she was following the exact advice given by one of her new-found Christian mentors, the 
great thirteenth-century German mystic, Meister Eckhart, who had written: ‘I say that the contemplative person should avoid even the thought of deeds to be done during the period of his contemplation but afterwards he should get busy for no one can or should 
engage in contemplation all the time, for active life is to be a respite from contemplation.’ 

At this time another aspect to Tenzin Palmo’s life began to open up – one that would develop much further in the future. The Christians soon got wind of her presence in Assisi and became highly interested to see and hear for themselves the woman who had spent so long in retreat alone. Her effort was beyond anything their orders ever attempted. She was asked to talk at seminars and at one point received an embossed invitation from the Vatican Council, no less, asking her to speak at an inter-faith conference in Taiwan. She was also invited to conduct workshops in seminaries and convents to tell the enclosed orders precisely what she had done, and how she had done it. Tenzin Palmo happily accepted, as she was now well receptive to inter-faith dialogue and was keen to give whatever knowledge she had in exchange for Christian methods of contemplation. But it didn’t work out like that at all. 

‘At one Benedictine monastery I was told that mass was at 5 a.m. and so I thought I would join in. When I got to the chapel, however, there were only one or two people inside. I asked where everyone was and was told that they were in a small room that had been 
set aside for my meditation course. When I got there I found all these shoes neatly lined up outside the door and all the inmates inside sitting there on the floor cross-legged. They had set up an altar with a Buddha statue on it, flowers and water bowls and asked 
me if it was all right."It’s lovely, thank you,” I told them. 
’They were only interested in learning about Buddhism. They’d been studying it, had met the Dalai Lama and were keen to know more. I wanted to encourage Christian meditation but they weren’t having any of it. They told me that there were so few masters of 
the inner life in Catholicism which was why the young people were falling away. They said the young were asking for ways of obtaining inner peace and a spiritual path to put meaning back into their lives. The nuns and monks felt that if they could get themselves 
together they could become guides to bring the young people what they needed. 

’They wanted methods, because they had lost their own. They wanted directions: what to do, what not to do, descriptions of the problems that can arise in meditation and how to deal with them. Tibetan methods are excellent because they don’t require any particular faith structure. Anyone can make use of them including psychologists. So I told them what to do and they would sit there nodding their heads. Afterwards one elderly Carmelite nun said: “If only someone had told me how to meditate years ago. It’s so simple. ‘" 

From her side, Tenzin Palmo enjoyed being with the nuns enormously. They swapped methods of robe-wearing, she told them about her life, they explained theirs. In spite of the differences, their pleasure in the commonality of the habit was mutual. 

From the 
Christian nuns she also picked up methods of a different kind which were to be extremely useful in a few years’ time. In turn the Christian fraternity so appreciated Tenzin Palmo that they invited her to their monasteries to do long retreats whenever she wanted. She 
thanked them kindly and declined. 

As time went by her name became known and her influence began to spread. She was invited to talk in Rome, north Italy, Umbria, Devon, Poland. While she was in Poland she visited Auschwitz and saw for herself the place which had been the site of so much 
human suffering.

 ‘One of the things that moved me most of all were the photographs of the people who had gone to the gas chambers. So many of them were bright-eyed and beautiful. Some were even smiling. I found that incredibly painful,’ she said. 
For all of her appreciation of Western culture, she had not relinquished her Buddhism, nor her meditation. Far from it. She continued to do her daily practices and conducted several short retreats. Before she knew it she was also caught up in a project to start a 
nunnery for Western Buddhist nuns in Pomaia, near Pisa. 

She had met the women at a summer course and, recognizing in them a reflection of her own dire experience when she was first ordained, was touched by their plight. ‘The nuns had no place of their own, and no one was looking after them. The monks were OK 
– they had their monastery, but the nuns were moving from centre to centre. It was not good for their spiritual development at all,’ she said. 
Later, when the opportunity came for her to join her friend Ram on a pilgrimage to Mount Kailash, in Tibet, she jumped at it. She had never been to the land which had fostered the strongest impulses in her present life, and Mount Kailash was regarded as the 
most sacred pilgrimage site of all. Situated in a remote region of western Tibet, in one of the most desolate places on earth, Mount Kailash was hailed as the very centre of the tantric universe by Buddhists and Hindus alike. At its peak, which soared more than 
21,000 feet into the rarefied atmosphere, lived the gods abided over by Tara herself. Tenzin Palmo had wanted to go to Kailash ever since she first read about the mystical mountain in Lama Govinda’s inspirational book The Way of the White Clouds, but had never 
seriously thought she would make it in this lifetime. 
‘It was incredible to be in Tibet finally – so much of my life had been spent thinking and reading about it. The surroundings absolutely lived up to my expectations – but there was also the anguish of seeing all that had been destroyed under the Chinese. There 
were huge monasteries which were just ruins. It was terribly sad,’ she said. 
They hired four yaks to carry their tents and cooking gear while they travelled by the more modern method of Land Cruiser. The journey took ten days, as there were no roads and the going was incredibly hard. When she eventually got there it was worth it. 
‘Kailash itself was wonderful. We had to go over the 18,000 feet Dolma Pass in a snowstorm to get to it and Ram and I were both exhausted and got disorientated. Then this big black dog appeared. We gave it some soggy biscuits and he showed us the way down. 
We were incredibly happy. It was very special and a great blessing. It took us two and a half days to circumambulate Mount Kailash once, prostrating at the holy places. Some Tibetans do it in a day. They get up at 3 a.m. and finish at 10 p.m. Some do twenty to thirty 
rounds in a month! Some go for 108, the numbers of beads on their malas (rosaries). And some prostrate all the way around, which takes them about two weeks. It’s very flinty so it’s not easy.’ 

’The nearby Lake Manasarovar is very special too. We were there for my fiftieth birthday. Ram insisted on bathing in it, so I did too. It almost killed me. It was freezing, with this icy wind blowing. You have to drink the water too, otherwise it doesn’t count!’ 
She met the nomads, gentle people still clinging to a way of life that had been going on for millennia. She heard their longing for the Dalai Lama, saw their poverty, but thought they were better off than the Tibetan town-folk, who were humiliated daily by the 
Chinese overlords. ‘For all their suffering I was astonished by the indomitable spirit of the Tibetans and how they managed to stay cheerful in such awful circumstances,’ she said. ‘It was bliss to be there, one of my peak experiences even though I felt terrible with 
splitting headaches and altitude sickness! I had a sense of fulfilment – I had dreamt of it for so long.’ 
There was no longing to stay, however. Tenzin Palmo may have had the strongest connections possible with Tibet and its religion, but now she was a Westerner, who had furthermore discovered Western music. In the midst of the stony wastes of West Tibet, 
under the shadow of the sublime, mystical Mount Kailash, Tenzin Palmo played Mozart. ‘You can take Mozart anywhere,’ she enthused. ’To me it’s the perfect music. It’s incredibly moving and gives me great joy! My Desert Island Discs would be almost all Mozart. 
If you could think of heaven with music, it would have Mozart there.’ 
She was also longing for some decent food. ‘I got sick to death of greasy noodles. I was longing for rice and dhal,’ she said. Her home was no longer Tibet. 
Tenzin Palmo sincerely believed that Assisi would be her base for the rest of her life. With this thought in mind she set about building a small two-roomed wooden house in the grounds belonging to her friends with money given to her through donations. She 
meant to go back into retreat, for she had certainly not forgotten her pursuit of perfection. She had actually begun when, Italian-style, building permission was suddenly withdrawn. Once again it seemed that fate, or ‘karma’, was stepping in and taking a hand in 
Tenzin Palmo’s life. She may have been ready to settle down but her days of ‘going forth into homelessness’, as decreed by the Buddha as the ideal state for his monks and nuns, were far from over. She had work to do. Much work.




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Chapter Fifteen Challenges - Guru
 
From being a cave-dweller Tenzin Palmo had become a jet-setter. From 
being entirely stationary she had begun to move across the world at a 
frantic pace. From being silent she now spoke for hours on end. From 
living the most simple existence she was now exposed to the full gamut 
of late twentieth-century life. The world that she had re-entered was a 
radically different place from the one she had left in 1963 when she had 
set sail for India. She saw for herself the stress and the insecurity, the job 
losses and the new phenomenon of homelessness. She read about 
increased crime, escalating violence and the drug problems. She 
witnessed her friends pedalling faster and faster in an effort to keep up. 
She noted governments everywhere swapping the principle of public 
service for economic rationalism; and now the new luxuries were cited as 
silence, space, time and an intact ecology. And she experienced first 
hand the great need for spiritual values in an increasingly materialistic 
society. 
‘People are parched with thirst,’ she said. ‘In Lahoul there was a 
richness to life in spite of all the hardships. Here people are hungry for 
some real meaning and depth to their lives. When one has stopped 
satiating the senses one wants more. That’s why people are aggressive 
and depressed. They feel everything is so futile. You have everything you 
want, and then what? Society’s answer is to get more and more, but 
where does that get you? I see isolation everywhere and it has nothing to 
do with being alone. It’s about having an alienated psyche.’ 
More specifically to her own story, by the mid-1990s the Western 
world had got over the first flush of its love affair with Buddhism and 
was beginning to take a cooler and more mature look at the complex, 
exotic religion which had come among them. That it had taken the 
Occident by storm was no longer in dispute. Thinking people of all ages 
and from all walks of life throughout Europe, the USA, Canada, Australia 
and New Zealand had been awed by the profundity of its message and 
drawn by the quality of the lamas who had delivered it. As a result 
Buddhist centres, specifically Tibetan Buddhist, had mushroomed all 
over the globe. 

But now the honeymoon was over. The early disciples, 
after thirty years of investigation and practice, began to see a more 
realistic – and human – face of the religion which had been transplanted 
into their soil. Flaws emerged, discrepancies arose and while Eastern 
mores may have forbidden outright criticism of its established religion 
and spiritual figureheads, the West, with its right of free speech, had no 
such scruples. By the time Tenzin Palmo hit the world circuit, certain 
aspects of Buddhism were being loudly and publicly challenged – and 
with them, by implication, Tenzin Palmo’s chosen way of life. 
The first object held up for scrutiny was the guru – regarded as the 
Guardian of the Truth, Infallible Guide and, in Tibetan Buddhism, as one

with the Buddha himself. ‘Guru is Buddha, Guru is dharma, Guru is 
sangha also,’ went the prayer. The reasoning was logical. The Buddha 
mind was absolute and all-pervasive but the guru was here on earth in 
the flesh. The Tibetans had an analogy. The Buddha was like the sun, 
all-powerful and shining on everything, but still unable to make a piece 
of paper burst into flames. For that you needed a magnifying glass, a 
conduit to channel the energy, hence the guru. Even so, it was a 
precarious position for any human to maintain, let alone a man set down 
in a distant land among foreign people and strange ways. Inevitably 
several gurus quickly fell off their pedestals amidst a clamour of 
publicity. 
Tenzin Palmo’s old friend and mentor, Chogyam Trungpa, whom she 
had met when he first arrived in England from Tibet, led the way, with a 
series of scandals which came to light mostly after his death in 1987. 
Trungpa, it was revealed, had not only frequently sat on his throne 
reeking of alcohol, he had engaged in several sexual relationships with 
his female students as well. It did not matter that he was not of a celibate 
order, the confusion which ensued was widespread. Many students tried 
to emulate him by also taking to the bottle and several of his female 
partners claimed their lives had been destroyed by his philandering. This 
notoriety was followed horribly quickly by the news that his chosen 
successor, American-born Thomas Rich, who became Osel Tendzin, not 
only had AIDS which he had kept secret but had infected one of his many 
unknowing student lovers. 
With the lid off, other ‘wronged’ parties came to light to blow the 
whistle on their gurus. One woman brought a $10 million lawsuit against 
a very popular Tibetan teacher for alleged sexual misconduct. It was 
settled out of court, but not before rumours of the man’s philandering 
had swept the entire Buddhist world. (In Dharamsala, however, the 
Tibetans frankly did not believe a woman would dare denounce a lama 
and put the whole episode down to a political plot.)Zen teachers 
acknowledged that ’sexual misconduct’ was rife among their members. 
British writer June Campbell, in her book Traveller in Space, told 
eloquently of her secret affair with the highly esteemed lama, the late 
Kalu Rinpoche, describing how confusing and undermining her 
clandestine affair had been. Jack Kornfield, one of America’s most 
established Buddhist teachers and authors, added to the controversy by 
stating, almost casually, that he had interviewed fifty-three Zen masters, 
lamas, swamis and/or their senior students about their sex lives and had 
discovered ’that the birds do it, the bees do it, and most gurus do it’. He 
went on to say: ‘Like any group of people in our culture, their sexual 
practices varied. There were heterosexuals, bisexuals, homosexuals, 
fetishists, exhibitionists, monogamists and polygamists.’ The point he 
was making was that Eastern spiritual heads are no more special than 
anyone else, but it didn’t help. The issue at stake was the supposed 
infallibility of the guru and the abuse of spiritual authority and power.

Confronted by the revelations, the Dalai Lama openly declared himself 
shocked. ‘This is very, very harmful for the Buddha dharma. Buddhism is 
meant to benefit people – that is its purpose, its only purpose. When you 
really examine it such shameful behaviour is due to a lack of inner 
strength and shows that in actuality there is a discrepancy between 
Buddhism and their life, that the Dharma has not been properly 
internalized,’ he stated, before announcing that the only remedy for such 
a dire situation was for all culprits to be ‘outed’. ‘You must mention 
them by name, publicize them, and no longer consider them as a 
teacher,’ he avowed. 
The Western Buddhist world, with its idealistic new converts, was 
rattled as disclosure followed hard on the heels of yet another 
disclosure. It was true that hundreds of followers were perfectly happy 
with their Tibetan teachers, finding in them supreme examples of 
morality, wisdom and compassion. Some disciples of Trungpa even 
spoke in his defence. 
‘My teacher did not keep ethical norms and my devotion to him is 
unshakable. He showed me the nature of my mind and for that I’m 
eternally grateful,’ stated eminent American nun and teacher Pema 
Chodron, director of Gampo Abbey, Nova Scotia, in the Buddhist 
magazine Tricycle. ’Trungpa Rinpoche taught me in every way he could 
that you can never make things right or wrong. His whole teaching was 
to lead people away from holding on to some kind of security, to throw 
out the party line. However, we’re always up against human nature. The 
teacher says something and everyone does it. There was a time when he 
smoked cigarettes and everyone started smoking. Then he stopped and 
they stopped. It was just ridiculous.’ 
But these defenders of the faith were the silent majority. The 
disaffected were making all the noise and the scandals were tarnishing 
Buddhism’s previously squeaky-clean image. Those whose lives had 
been touched by the fallen gurus rushed off to the psychiatrists (and the 
press) to tell of their anguish and doubt. In particular the new breed of 
articulate emancipated females were especially vociferous, claiming that 
this was one more instance of male power exploiting and betraying 
women. 
They had a point. While religious teachers of any faith engaging in 
sexual activity with their disciples was morally and ethically questionable, 
within the context of Tibetan Buddhism it was arguably more so. Tibetan 
Buddhism had tantra, the legitimate sexual coupling between spiritual 
partners which was said to inspire both parties to higher levels of 
attainment. To be chosen by a guru as a consort for such a mystic union, 
therefore, was to establish you as a very special woman indeed. In many 
cases it was irresistible. With the guru seen as Buddha, how could a 
woman resist? 
Tenzin Palmo arrived in the midst of the storm. In the dock was the 
guru, dubbed by one American commentator ’this poor dysfunctional

model’. This was the pillar that Tenzin Palmo had trusted her entire 
spiritual life on. To her mind the guru was the heart of the matter. 
Khamtrul Rinpoche had been, quite simply, the most important person 
in her life, the only ’thing’ she had missed in all those years in the cave, 
the man whose memory could still induce uncontrollable sobs years 
after his death. She surveyed the scene with her cool, detached eye. 
‘Of course where a lama is acting dishonourably it is extremely 
damaging. It creates an atmosphere of rivalry, jealousy, secrecy and 
chaos. I have heard of some lamas creating a harem situation, or having 
one or two secret liaisons. In such circumstances the women have a 
right to feel humiliated and exploited. It’s also hypocritical. The lama is 
posing as a monk, yet he’s not. I don’t see how that benefits the dharma 
or sentient beings. It’s a very different situation from a lama who has not 
taken celibacy vows having a consort openly, and a decent steady 
relationship,’ she stated. 
The woman who had laughed off Trungpa’s sexual advances when she 
was just nineteen, and who still managed to remain friends with him, 
was hardly going to take the high moral ground, however. ’Some women 
are very flattered at being “the consort", in which case they should take 
the consequences. And some women only know how to relate to men in 
this way. I sometimes feel we women have to get away from this victim 
mentality,’ she said crisply. ‘It is also necessary to understand the 
strange situation these lamas have found themselves in. They were 
brought up in a monastic setting among hundreds of like-minded men 
and now find themselves in a strange land being the only lama in a 
community of Westerners. There’s no one for them to turn to for 
companionship and advice, and they’re surrounded by devoted disciples 
who are only too willing to please. With the very heavy sexual 
prominence in the West, I believe many lamas misread the signs and are 
surprised to find the women are taking their advances towards them 
seriously. It’s a lot of misread messages which is leading to confusion all 
round.’ 
Much of the current problem, she deduced, was due to the fact that 
Westerners had little experience and no education about how to look for 
and find their real guru. Nor did they understand what the function of a 
true guru was. Eastern masters were fashionable, Westerners’ thirst for 
spiritual leadership, any leadership, was immense. Their naivety and 
susceptibility therefore made them easy prey to misunderstandings and 
in some cases spiritual and sexual exploitation. In Tenzin Palmo’s 
experience the business of finding a guru was, in fact a highly specialized 
task indeed. 
‘In Tibet it was understood that when you meet your root guru there is 
this instant, immediate mutual recognition – and instant trust. You 
inwardly know. The problem with the West is that people might meet a 
charismatic lama, have a surge of devotion and think this is it! Even if 
they had a connection with Tibet in past lives the chances of meeting up

with their lama again are actually very slim. Their root guru could be 
anywhere, or even dead, as most of the high lamas perished in the 
aftermath of the Chinese invasion. Previously, it was much easier. The 
lamas were reborn in their own districts and so it was much more likely 
that you would refind your guru again,’ she explained. 
‘Many Westerners have false ideas about what a guru is,’ she went on. 
‘They think that if they find the perfect master with the perfect teachings 
they’ll immediately get it. They believe that the guru is going to lead them 
through every step of the way. It’s a search for Mamma. But it’s not like 
that. A genuine guru is there to help people to grow up as well as wake 
up. The real function of a guru is to introduce you to the unborn nature 
of your mind and the relationship is one of mutual commitment. From 
the side of the disciple she or he should see whatever the guru does as 
perfect Buddha activity, obey whatever the lama says, and put into 
practice whatever the lama instructs. The lama, on his part, is committed 
to take the disciple all the way to Enlightenment, however many lifetimes 
that may take. In that lies its glory and its downfall. If it is a genuine lama 
you have the certainty of never being abandoned. If it is not a genuine 
lama you open yourself to all sorts of exploitation.’ 
The Dalai Lama had his own recipe for distinguishing between an 
authentic guru and a fake: ‘You should “spy” on him or her for at least 
ten years. You should listen, examine, watch, until you are convinced that 
the person is sincere. In the meantime you should treat him or her as an 
ordinary human being and receiving their teaching as “just information”. 
In the end the authority of a guru is bestowed by the disciple. The guru 
doesn’t go out looking for students. It is the student who has to ask the 
guru to teach and guide,’ he said. 
Tenzin Palmo had other ideas, especially when it came to lamas 
suggesting sexual liaisons. ‘One way to judge if he’s bona fide is to see if 
he’s pursuing old, unattractive women as well as the young, pretty ones!’ 
she suggested. ‘If he were a genuine lama he would see all women as 
Dakinis, young and old, fat and thin, pretty and ugly, because he would 
have pure view! And if the guru were genuine you can always say no 
without feeling you’ve blown it. A true guru, even if he felt that having a 
tantric relationship might be beneficial for that disciple, would make the 
request with the understanding that it would not damage their 
relationship if she refused. No woman should ever have to agree on the 
grounds of his authority or a sense of her obedience. The understanding 
should be “if she wished to good, if not, also good", offering her a 
choice and a sense of respect. Then that is not exploitation. 
‘Actually real tantric liaisons are extremely rare,’ she continued. ‘I once 
asked Khamtrul Rinpoche, “Seeing as sexual yoga is such a fast way to 
Enlightenment, how come you are all monks?” And he replied, “It’s true 
it’s a quick path but you have to be almost Buddha to practise it.” To 
have a genuine tantric relationship first there must be no feeling of lust. 
Then there must be no emission of sexual fluids. Instead you must learn

to send the fluids up through the central channel to the crown while 
doing very complicated visualization and breathing practices. All this 
requires tremendous control of body, speech and mind. Even yogis who 
have practised tumo for many years say they’d need one or two lifetimes 
of practice to accomplish sexual yoga. So these tantric weekends on offer 
in the West these days may give you a jolly good time, but little else!’ she 
said. 
For all the accusations, the distrust, and the general uneasiness, 
Tenzin Palmo’s own feelings towards Khamtrul Rinpoche never wavered, 
not for a second. ‘I can say that Khamtrul Rinpoche was the one person I 
felt I could trust completely. One of the greatest blessings of my life is 
that never for a single moment did I doubt him as a guru, and as my 
guru. He guided me infallibly. I never saw anything I needed to question. 
He was always completely selfless and wise,’ she said emphatically. 
To many Western Buddhists, however, the guru had been mortally 
wounded. It was not just the scandals that had eroded his position, it 
was the times themselves. In the last seconds of the twentieth century it 
was being stated by some that the guru-disciple relationship had run its 
course. The figure of the guru was, they said, a product of the patriarchy 
with its emphasis on structure and hierarchy, and with the rise of female 
spiritual power the patriarchy’s days were rapidly coming to an end. 
Andrew Harvey, former Oxford scholar and poetic writer, spent many 
years seeking spiritual truths at the feet of a variety of prominent masters 
of different faiths, including several eminent lamas, the Christian monk 
Father Bede Griffiths, who established an ashram in India, and the Indian 
woman guru Mother Meera. He summed up the new feeling eloquently: 
‘I am very grateful for all my relationships with my teachers but I’ve come 
to understand that you can be frozen by that relationship into a position 
of infantilism. It can enforce you in all sorts of inabilities to deal with the 
world. It can also corrupt the master. We’re being shown that many of 
the people we’ve revered are in fact very, very flawed,’ he said in a recent 
radio interview. ‘We’re trying to come to a new understanding, a new 
paradigm of what the relationship between teacher and pupil should be. I 
think it will change very dramatically in the next ten to fifteen years. We 
will not keep holding on to the old Eastern fantasy of avatars and 
masters. It’s too convenient a fantasy now. We need something that 
empowers us all directly.’ 
What the new thinkers were suggesting in the place of the guru was 
the spiritual friend. A figure who did not claim to be Enlightened, who 
did not wish to be regarded as infallible and given total obedience, but 
who would walk the path with the seeker, side by side. It was a 
democratic solution befitting Western culture. Tenzin Palmo agreed. She 
may have gained invaluable experience from her relationship with her 
own guru, but she was extremely fortunate – and most unusual. 
‘Frankly, at this point I think it’s more important for the West to 
practise Buddhism and rely on having good teachers, rather than gurus.

They’re not necessarily the same thing,’ she said. ‘A guru is a very special 
relationship but you can have many, many teachers. Take Atisha (a 
tenth-century founder of Tibetan Buddhism). He had fifty teachers. Most 
teachers are perfectly capable of guiding us. And we’re perfectly capable 
of guiding ourselves. We’ve got our innate wisdom. People can put off 
practice for ever, waiting for the magic touch that is going to transform 
them – or throwing themselves on someone who is charismatic without 
discriminating whether or not they are suitable. We should just get on 
with it. If you meet someone with whom you have a deep inner 
connection, great, if not the dharma is always there. It’s not helpful to get 
off on the guru trip. It’s better to understand Buddha, dharma and 
sangha.’ 
As it had done with priests in the Christian religion, the whole spate of 
sex scandals around the lamas had brought into focus another area of 
radical questioning – celibacy itself. This was an issue very close to 
Tenzin Palmo’s heart, and the difficult choice she had made. Was it 
relevant in the 1990s? Was it possible? Was it even desirable? Tenzin 
Palmo had no doubts. 
‘Celibacy is still extremely relevant,’ she insisted. ‘There’s a point to it. 
It not only frees the body but clears the mind as well. By not being 
engaged in a sexual relationship your energies can be directed into other, 
higher directions. It also frees up your emotions too, allowing you to 
develop great love for everyone, not just for your family and a small circle 
of close friends. Of course it’s not for everybody, and that’s where the 
problems arise. Far too many men become Buddhist monks, because it’s 
a good life and they have devotion. The Dalai Lama has publicly stated 
that only ten out of 100 monks are true candidates. 
‘And from what I see many Roman Catholic priests are in a very 
difficult position. I think they should have a choice whether to marry or 
not. For some it would help a lot to have a close relationship in order for 
them to learn the laws of marital existence before handing out advice to 
others. In Tibet there were many married lamas who were incredible. 
Lama just means guru, it doesn’t necessarily mean monk. Even 
nowadays many have married, like Sakya Trizin and Dilgo Kheyntse 
Rinpoche. They started training at a very young age, and did several years 
of retreat before taking a consort. Often they only do so on the 
instructions of their guru and live in the monastery with their wife, and 
children, by their side. That can be very nice because with a wife and 
daughters they understand women, and have an appreciation for the 
female point of view. You don’t have to be celibate, it’s just that for many 
people it’s beneficial.’ 
She had noted the sexual revolution that had taken place while she 
was in the cave. How could she have missed it? The world that she had 
emerged into was ablaze with naked, entwined bodies, on billboards, on 
television, in movies, in newspapers, and in magazines in every high 
street newsagent. The taboo had been well and truly broken and to prove

it sex was discussed, displayed and disseminated like never before. 
Logos of condoms were paraded on T-shirts, the sex industry had 
replaced prostitution, people no longer ‘made love’, they ‘had sex’. It was 
a far cry from the days when an Elvis Presley record sent shivers down a 
teenager’s spine. 
’There’s no doubt that the West is obsessed with sex, thinks that you 
can’t live without it and that if you do it’s going to make you warped and 
thwarted. It’s absurd! Some of the most glowing and fulfilled people I’ve 
met have been chaste,’ she continued. ‘When I look at the monks of 
Tashi Jong and the laymen of the community the difference in the 
physical and spiritual quality is stunning. The monks look healthy, clear, 
happy and the laymen often look quite sickly and dark. This is a 
generalization, of course, but it’s quite appropriate. You can see a 
different look in their eyes. 
‘I remember that once a high Indian official came to Dalhousie shortly 
after I had just arrived there and said to me, “You’re a woman of the 
world, so where are the monks getting it?” “Getting what?” I asked, 
naively. “Well,” he replied, “I have eight children and I still can’t do 
without it so how come these monks look so happy?” He found it quite 
unbelievable that a celibate monk could look so well. And you should 
have seen him, he was a complete wreck! I have also met plenty of 
Christian monks who keep their vows purely and who certainly aren’t 
warped or troubled either. The Trappists live very long lives – and they 
only eat vegetables and cheese,’ she added. 
By 1997 Tenzin Palmo herself had been celibate for thirty-three years. 
At the age of twenty-one she had made the radical decision to live 
without any form of sexual contact or sexual fulfilment, without any 
comfort of physical intimacy – all in the name of her vocation. She was 
now fifty-four and still very much alone. At best it seemed heroic, at 
worst unnatural. What had happened to the girl in the stiletto heels who 
had a retinue of boyfriends? ‘I think she got integrated. I like music, I 
enjoy seeing beautiful art, being in beautiful scenery. I like being with 
friends and laughing – which are expressions of the sensuous side of my 
nature. I am not nearly as serious as I used to be and no longer see “the 
other girl” as a threat,’ she said. 
As for her own celibacy, she had no regrets: ‘I feel absolutely fine! Now 
I just don’t think that way towards men. They know it and say I’m the 
only woman they’ve met who has no sexual vibration. For better or worse 
that’s how I am. I have lots of men friends and enjoy male company. 
Actually I love men I think men are very interesting. (I also love women 
and find them very interesting too.) One of the joys of being a nun is that 
it makes one’s relationship with men in some ways much deeper 
because they don’t feel threatened. They can talk to me and tell me 
things which they probably wouldn’t be able to tell many other people. 
Actually, I tend not to think in terms of male and female any more. As for 
physical affection, that’s what I missed out all those years when I was in

the monastery. Now the need has gone. If people want to hug me (which 
they do a lot in America), it’s OK. But it’s perfectly fine also if they don’t. 
As Masters and Johnson said in their conclusion, sex is one of the joys 
of life but it’s certainly not the only one, nor is it the most important. In 
my opinion there’s so much more to life than relationships.’ 
There were other challenges to face, apart from sex, celibacy and 
gurus. By the time Tenzin Palmo was travelling across the world on her 
dharma circuit, the new disciples were beginning tentatively to form 
‘Western Buddhism’, prising the golden nuggets of the Buddha’s 
wisdom out of their eastern casing to adapt them to their own culture. It 
was a quieter, infinitely more substantial revolution than the more 
sensational events that were grabbing media attention. It was also one 
that was absolutely in keeping with Buddhist history. Throughout the 
ages Buddhism had travelled from one Asian country to the next and 
such was the flexibility of its thought that it had changed its colour, 
chameleon-style, to suit whatever environment it found itself in. As a 
result Japanese Buddhism looked very different from Sri Lankan 
Buddhism, which in turn looked radically different from Thai, Burmese, 
Vietnamese or Tibetan Buddhism. Underneath the surface the 
fundamental truths were the same – the suffering of cyclic existence and 
the necessity to find the path of escape. Now, for the first time in 2,500 
years, the Buddhist tide had turned irrevocably westward and hit the 
many shores of Europe, the Americans, and Australasia, all of which 
carried their own distinctive culture and psyche. Each in time would 
endow Buddhism with its own unique characteristics. 
Now senior students began to rewrite the liturgy, attempting to imbue 
the powerful symbolism of Tibetan imagery and language with words 
that had more meaning for Western audiences. They began teaching, 
finding ways of putting the ancient truths into a contemporary context. It 
was a delicate business, requiring much gentle sifting if the baby was not 
to be thrown out with the bathwater. At the same time the greatest 
influences of Western thought started to be grafted on to the Eastern 
religion in an organic way. It was not just East meeting West, but West 
meeting East. The ethos of social service, of compassion in action 
(rather than just on the meditation cushion), was introduced. Buddhist 
hospices and home-care services for the dying sprang up everywhere, as 
did leper clinics and refuges for the homeless. Buddhist centres 
inaugurated meditation sessions for stress relief, counselling services, 
and programmes for alcohol and drug abuse. And the insights of the 
West’s Masters of the Mind, Jung, Freud and other psychotherapists, 
were galvanized to add a fresher meaning to the Buddha dharma. The 
process had begun, a new form of religion was in the making. It was an 
exciting time. 
Tenzin Palmo, who had had no choice but to weld herself to Tibetan 
Buddhism in its purest form, looked on in fascination at the changes that 
were unfolding. ‘I believe the West is going to make some really

important contributions to Buddhism. Tibet was a very unique and 
special situation and they created a kind of Buddhism which was ideal 
for them. But the circumstances which Buddhism is facing now in the 
West are obviously very different and the dharma has to change. Not the 
essence of course but the way it is presented and its emphasis,’ she said. 
‘I think the skilful incorporation of certain psychological principles is 
going to be very significant. I also like the idea of social involvement, of 
genuinely going out there to help others rather than just sitting on the 
meditation cushion thinking about it. It’s opening the heart through 
practical application and it suits the West. Actually, it’s not inimical to 
the dharma, it’s always been in there, but lying a little bit dormant. 
Different aspects of the dharma emerge when they resonate with certain 
qualities in the psyches of the people it is meeting. It’s an absolutely 
necessary process if Buddhism is going to be applicable to one’sown 
country.’ 
‘But these are very early days. The dharma took hundreds of years to 
get rooted in Tibet. There’s no Western Buddhism yet. Buddhism will not 
be rooted in the West until some Western people have gone and taken 
the dharma and eaten it and digested it and then given it back in a form 
which is right for Westerners. At the moment it is like that period in Tibet 
when they went to India to bring scriptures back and Indian masters 
visited Tibet. Only gradually did the Tibetans evolve it into a form which 
was right for them, just as the Thais or the Burmese did. Westerners are 
going to do that too eventually, but it has to come very naturally.’ 
In the context of Tenzin Palmo’s story, however, it was the rise of 
feminism in the West which brought with it the most interesting rewards, 
and the sharpest challenges.




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Chapter Sixteen Is a Cave Necessary? 
 
While Tenzin Palmo had been secreted away in her cave doggedly 
pursuing the path to perfection, the women of the West had been busy 
out in the world organizing their own revolution. By the time she came 
out they had made significant inroads into the male strongholds of both 
the public and private sector and were turning their determined and 
increasingly confident eye on the last bastion of male domination, 
religion. Buddhism was not spared. It might not have had a ‘God the 
Father’ to contest, believing as it did in a genderless Absolute, but like all 
the world’s great faiths it had been formulated by men according to 
men’s rules in a time when men were the undisputed leaders. But times 
were rapidly changing and the old order was giving place to the new. The 
emerging breed of powerful feminist Buddhists began to query some of 
the very fundamentals that lay at the heart of the ancient tradition that 
Tenzin Palmo was following so faithfully, and started to demand a more 
feminine face for the Buddha. 
Their questions were sharp and far-ranging. Instead of the masculine 
hierarchical structure, which had been in place for millennia, which 
placed the head at the top and the rest of the community fanning out 
underneath in a triangle, why shouldn’t the head be in the centre of the 
circle with everyone else at equidistance all around? Why were places of 
worship always built in straight lines? Why weren’t they round instead, 
following the more feminine principles of the circle and the spiral? Why 
wasn’t the quality of nurture included in the practice? Why wasn’t there 
more emphasis on the sacredness of the body and embodiment, rather 
than the ideal perpetually being depicted as something transcendent? 
Why wasn’t earthiness as holy as the de-material? Why weren’t 
relationships more honoured? And why were the female consorts of 
divine art always depicted with their back to the viewer, their role thereby 
being subtly projected as secondary to the man’s, although in effect they 
were as essential to the process of spiritual unfolding as their male 
partner? 
More significantly to Tenzin Palmo’s quest, they asked, is a cave 
necessary? A cave, they said, was a male prerogative which seriously 
disadvantaged women with children, spouse and house to care for. 
While men can (and do) walk away from their families, as the Buddha 
himself had done, to engage in long bouts of solitary meditation to 
improve their spiritual chances, women cannot, or do not want to. Why 
should the maternal instinct, which after all was responsible for bringing 
forth all beings into the world, including the Buddha, the Christ and all 
the other holy beings, thus be regarded as a handicap? The cave (or the 
forest hut), with its call for total renunciation of the world, was, they said, 
a patriarchal ideal which had held dominance for too long.


stated they wanted it all. Spirituality and family. The cave and the hearth. 
To this end they began to initiate practices which included children and 
families. They introduced emotional healing as a way of meditation 
rather than the enemy of it. They made moves to change the liturgy and 
the sexist language of the prayers and ritual. And they brought home the 
point that the kitchen sink was as good a place to reach Enlightenment 
as the meditation hall or the remote Himalayan cave. It was revolutionary 
stuff, which promised to change the face of Buddhism for ever. 
Tsultrim Allione, an American woman, was at the forefront of the 
movement. She had been ordained in 1970 but had disrobed four years 
later to get married and have children. She went on to write Women of 
Wisdom, one of the first books to laud the place of the feminine in 
Buddhism, and later established the Tara Mandala Retreat Centre in 
Pagosa Springs, Colorado, which she set up along the new, experimental 
feminist lines. She was in a prime position to know both sides of the 
story. ‘I disrobed because I was the only Tibetan Buddhist nun in the 
USA at that time and felt very isolated and unsupported,’ she said from a 
loft in Seattle, where she was presenting a talk and slide show of her 
recent visit to female holy sites in India and Nepal. ‘I was twenty-five, my 
sexual desire was there, and celibacy began to feel like suppression. 
What came out of that was that I went from being a nun to a mother and 
a writer in a year. It was an intense experience - and definitely the best 
decision for me. From having all the time to myself I had no time to 
myself. From thinking I’d overcome jealousy and anger, and all those 
negative emotions, they were now all thrown back in my face. It made me 
realize that as a nun I was protected from feeling them. I had to grind 
deeper into the layers of the five poisons to see what they were and learn 
to work directly with them and not cover them up. If I had stayed a nun I 
could have become very arrogant, thinking I was above them all,’ she 
said. 
Tsultrim Allione went on to have four children in five years (one of 
whom died in infancy), an experience which made her dispute the rigid 
‘official’ line that motherhood was an obstacle to spiritual progress. ‘We 
have to ask ourselves what spiritual realizations are. The whole maternal 
impulse is the same as the urge of love and self-sacrifice. Realizations 
have been defined by men and as such they are events which are “up 
there and out there”. They are not the experience of embodiment. The 
giving instinct of a mother is detachment. And there’s a quality of really 
understanding the human condition from being a mother and a lay 
person which you do not get as an ordained person. As a mother I was 
constantly disillusioned with myself. I chose how I failed, not if I failed.’ 
For herself she had no doubts that a cave was unnecessary. ‘I believe 
women can become Enlightened in the home,’ she said. ’That’s the 
whole point of tantra. There’s a story about a woman who always used to 
do her practice while carrying water. One day she drops the water and as 
she does so her consciousness breaks open and she experiences


It wasn’t only feminists who were asking the difficult questions. Male 
practitioners were also challenging the value of the cave. Vipassana 
teacher Jack Kornfield, one of America’s most renowned meditation 
masters, introduced the concept of a ‘few months in’ and a ‘few months 
out’ as an alternative to years of uninterrupted retreat in isolated places. 
He was also advocating half-way houses when the retreat was finished. 
His argument was that prolonged periods of meditation away from 
mainstream life made it extremely difficult for the person to reintegrate 
back into society. The Western psyche was unsuitable for such austere 
practices, he said, as the many who were beginning to try it on their own 
home soil had found out. Prolonged solitary retreat was causing 
psychosis and alienation. 
In England another well-known Buddhist teacher, Stephen Bachelor, 
director of studies at Sharpham College for Buddhist Studies and 
Contemporary Enquiry, tended to agree. He had been a monk for ten 
years both in the Zen and Buddhist traditions, before becoming one of 
Buddhist’s most famous sceptics, openly questioning such fundamental 
doctrinal principles as reincarnation. As a friend of Tenzin Palmo he was 
in a good position to comment on whether a cave was necessary for 
advanced spiritual practice.

‘It doesn’t make a lot of sense to make generalizations. So much has 
to do with the temperament of the person who is going to the cave,’ he 
said. ‘Knowing Tenzin Palmo it has obviously been an experience of 
enormous value, something which has had its knock-on effect 
afterwards. She is so clearly warm, outgoing, engaging in life. But Tenzin 
Palmo doesn’t conform to the standard norm of the solitary hermit, who 
is usually introverted and world-denying. I can think of other instances 
where people are not so psychologically solid and where prolonged 
periods of meditation in complete solitude can lead to psychotic states. 
People go in looking for answers for their insecurity and alienation and 
can get locked into their neurotic perceptions rather than going on 
beyond them. You have to be wired in such a way to be able to cope with 
this sort of isolation.’ 
As a monk, Stephen Bachelor had conducted his own retreats, on one 
occasion doing three months in, three months out for a period of three 
years. He knows the kind of traumas such an exercise can induce. ‘You 
do confront your own demons (if you have any), which is of enormous 
value. You come up against yourself and you have to respond to your 
reality using the tools you have been given. My long retreat eroded my 
belief system,’ he acknowledged. ‘I was in a Zen monastery where all we 
did was ask the question, “What is this?” My retreat was about 
unlearning. It was a very different approach from Tenzin Palmo’s. In Zen 
there is no devotion to a particular teacher. One of Tenzin Palmo’s great 
strengths is that she has great faith in her guru and the tradition she is 
part of. Frankly it is a faith which I find inconceivable.’ 
All this put Tenzin Palmo’s twelve years of determination and 
extraordinary effort in the cave on the line. Had she wasted her time? 
Could she have performed her great retreat in London or Assisi? Was she 
an anachronism? If she had not disappeared to the East when she was 
twenty would she have done it any differently? As always she stood her 
ground and put up a compelling credo for the cave. 
‘It’s a poverty of our time that so many people can’t see beyond the 
material,’ she said. ‘In this age of darkness with its greed, violence and 
ignorance it’s important there are some areas of light in the gloom, 
something to balance all the heaviness and darkness. To my mind the 
contemplatives and the solitary meditators are like lighthouses beaming 
out love and compassion on to the world. Because their beams are 
focused they are very powerful. They become like generators and they are 
extremely necessary. 
‘Even as I travel around the world I meet people who say how inspired 
they’ve been by my being in the cave,’ Tenzin Palmo continued. ‘I got a 
letter from a woman who said that her son was dying of AIDS and that in 
the moments of her deepest depression she’d think of me up in my cave 
and that would give her solace. It’s true of many people leading this life. I 
know Catholics who feel inspired that Christian contemplatives are 
praying for the world’s sinners.

What people have to remember is that meditators in caves are not 
doing it for themselves – they’re meditating on behalf of all sentient 
beings.’ And her words were reminiscent of that old Eastern saying that if 
it weren’t for the meditators directing their prayers to the welfare of all 
humanity the sun wouldn’t rise every morning in the East. And didn’t 
Pascal say that the whole of the world’s troubles was because man could 
not sit still in his room? 
But for Tenzin Palmo, the woman, the option had been easy. She had 
never for a second yearned for a child. She had never known the ache of 
maternal instinct unfulfilled. Nor had she ever had to balance the 
demands of motherhood and domestic responsibility with the call for 
spiritual development, like so many women were trying to do. Western 
mothers like Tsultrim Allione tried to get round the problem by allowing 
her children into her meditation sessions (where they climbed all over 
her). Other women were reduced to getting up before dawn to get in the 
prescribed hours of practice before getting their children off to school. 
They would then juggle other sessions between the cooking and the 
laundry and would finish off late at night doing their final session after 
the children were in bed. Tibetan mothers like Machig Lobdron (the 
famous yogini of Tibet) solved the problem by simply leaving her 
children with her husband for months on end in order to practise. In 
reality therefore was motherhood a disadvantage to spiritual progress? 
‘We do different things in different lifetimes,’ Tenzin Palmo answered. 
‘We should look and see what in this lifetime we are called to do. It’s 
ridiculous to become a nun or a hermit because of some ideal when all 
the time we would be learning more within a close relationship or a 
family situation. You can develop all sorts of qualities through 
motherhood which you could not by leading a monastic life. It’s not that 
by being a mother one is cutting off the path. Far from it! There are many 
approaches, many ways. What is unrealistic, however, is to become a 
mother or a businesswoman and at the same time expect to be able to 
do the same kind of practices designed for hermits. If women have made 
the choice to have children then they should develop a practice which 
makes the family the dharma path. Otherwise they’ll end up being very 
frustrated. 
‘Actually, everything depends on one’s skilful means and how much 
determination and effort one puts into it,’ she went on. ‘Whether one is a 
monk, a nun, a hermit, a housewife or a businessman or woman, at one 
level it’s irrelevant. The practice of being in the moment, of opening the 
heart, can be done wherever we are. If one is able to bring one’s 
awareness into everyday life and into one’s relationships, workplace, 
home, then it makes no difference where one is. Even in Tibet the people 
who attained the rainbow body were often very “ordinary” people who 
nobody ever knew were practising. The fact is that a genuine practice 
should be able to be carried out in all circumstances.’ She paused for a 
moment, then added: ‘It’s just that it’s easier to do these advanced

practices in a conducive environment away from external and internal 
distractions. That’s why the Buddha created the sangha. Very close 
relationships can be very distracting, let’s admit it.’ 
It was an essential codicil. What Tenzin Palmo was in fact saying was 
that while much spiritual development can be achieved within the home 
or the office, the cave remained the hothouse for Enlightenment. It was 
what they had always said. 
’The advantage of going to a cave is that it gives you time and space to 
be able to concentrate totally. The practices are complicated with detailed 
visualizations. The inner yogic practices and the mantras also require 
much time and isolation. These cannot be done in the midst of the town. 
Going into retreat gives the opportunity for the food to cook,’ she said, 
ironically launching into the language of the kitchen to get her meaning 
across. ‘You have to put all the ingredients into a pot and stew it up. And 
you have to have a constant heat. If you keep turning the heat on and off 
it is never going to be done. The retreat is like living in a pressure-cooker. 
Everything gets cooked much quicker. That is why it is recommended. 
‘Even for short periods, it can be helpful. You don’t have to do it all 
your life. I think it would be very helpful for many people to have some 
period of silence and isolation to look within and find out who they really 
are, when they’re not so busy playing roles – being the mother, wife, 
husband, career person, everybody’s best friend, or whatever fagade we 
put up to the world as our identity. It’s very good to have an opportunity 
to be alone with oneself and see who one really is behind all the masks.’ 
In this light, she declared, the hermitage or cave would never be an 
archaic ideal, as some were suggesting. And for as long as certain 
individuals, like herself, had the yearning to pursue the lonely inner path, 
away from the hustle and bustle of ordinary life, then the cave would 
always exist, in one form or another. ‘Is the search for reality 
old-fashioned?’ she stated more than asked. ‘As long as the search for 
spiritual understanding is valid, so is the cave.’ 
Tenzin Palmo, out in the world, had come into contact with many of 
the new women agitating to put a more feminine face on the Buddha, 
and applauded their efforts. ‘The push by the women to introduce these 
changes is going to be one of the greatest contributions the West is 
going to make to the dharma,’ she said. Over the years she had 
developed an interesting relationship with the strongest proponents. Like 
them, her goal was equality of opportunity for all women in the spiritual 
arena. Like them, she abhorred the latent misogyny of the Patriarchal 
system. Like them, she was fiercely independent, intent on forging her 
own way ahead regardless of the obstacles. Like them, she was 
outspoken against discrimination and injustice wherever she found 
them. But, unlike them, she did not think the full-frontal attacks often 
employed by the feminists worked. And, in her inimical fashion, she told 
them so. 
’These angry feminists! I come up against them all the time. They have

to be alone with oneself and see who one really is behind all the masks.’ 
In this light, she declared, the hermitage or cave would never be an 
archaic ideal, as some were suggesting. And for as long as certain 
individuals, like herself, had the yearning to pursue the lonely inner path, 
away from the hustle and bustle of ordinary life, then the cave would 
always exist, in one form or another. ‘Is the search for reality 
old-fashioned?’ she stated more than asked. ‘As long as the search for 
spiritual understanding is valid, so is the cave.’ 
Tenzin Palmo, out in the world, had come into contact with many of 
the new women agitating to put a more feminine face on the Buddha, 
and applauded their efforts. ‘The push by the women to introduce these 
changes is going to be one of the greatest contributions the West is 
going to make to the dharma,’ she said. Over the years she had 
developed an interesting relationship with the strongest proponents. Like 
them, her goal was equality of opportunity for all women in the spiritual 
arena. Like them, she abhorred the latent misogyny of the Patriarchal 
system. Like them, she was fiercely independent, intent on forging her 
own way ahead regardless of the obstacles. Like them, she was 
outspoken against discrimination and injustice wherever she found 
them. But, unlike them, she did not think the full-frontal attacks often 
employed by the feminists worked. And, in her inimical fashion, she told 
them so. 
’These angry feminists! I come up against them all the time. They have 
this whole idea of righteous indignation which they use as fuel to oppose 
whatever they think is unjust. They direct an enormous amount of anger 
towards men, as though they were the perpetrators of all evil. Frankly I 
don’t think all this anger helps. And I tell them so. Anger is simply anger, 
we use it to justify our own negative states. We all have a huge reservoir 
of anger in us and whatever we direct it to only adds oil to the fire. If we 
approach something with an angry mind what happens is that it leads to 
antagonism and defensiveness in the other side. The Buddha said hatred 
is not overcome by hatred, but only by love. 
‘Admittedly men have done some pretty awful things but they have 
often been aided and abetted by women. If one looks at the situation 
fairly, the people keeping women down are often other women! It’s not 
men against women, but women against women. After all, the greatest 
opponent of the suffragettes was Queen Victoria! If the women stood 
together what could men do? The whole issue is not a matter of 
polarizing the human race. It’s more subtle than that.’ 
Her words had wisdom. If the last several thousand years of patriarchy 
had been a backlash against the previous millennia of matriarchy when 
the Earth Goddess had reigned supreme (as many pundits were saying), 
what was the point of having another radical pendulum swing back 
again? If a new order was emerging then balance between male and 
female (as well as East and West) was obviously the best solution. And 
because she spoke sense the women listened and told her they hadn’t


==
Chapter Seventeen  Now 
 
It has been nine years since I first met Tenzin Palmo in the grounds of 
that Tuscan mansion and was catapulted into the slow but inexorable 
business of writing her life story. In that time much has changed. She 
has lost some of that luminous glow she had when she first came out of 
the cave, though her eyes are as sparkling and her manner as animated 
as ever. The years on the road, forever on the move, teaching incessantly, 
have taken their toll. It has been a long, tough haul. At the time of writing 
she has collected enough money to buy the land and lay the foundations. 
By anyone’s standards it’s a tremendous achievement, but for one 
woman to have to have done it single-handed, without the aid of 
professional fundraisers, it is extraordinary. Still, there is a long way to 
go, and so she travels on, gathering yet more funds to boost the coffers 
for her nunnery. For all the slowness of the process she remains 
strangely unconcerned, showing no signs of impatience to hurry things 
along and get the job done. She has no personal ambition in this 
scheme. At one level she really doesn’t mind. 
‘My life is in the hands of the Buddha, dharma and sangha, literally. 
I’ve handed it over. Whatever is necessary for me to do to benefit all 
beings, let me do it. I don’t care,’ she admits. ‘Besides, I’ve discovered 
that if I try to push things the way I think they should be done everything 
goes wrong.’ 
Having surrendered to the Buddha, the practicalities of her life 
curiously seem to take care of themselves. People are only too pleased to 
have her company for as long as she can be with them – offering her 
plane tickets, their houses, food, transport, money, so that all her 
physical needs are met. This is how she says it should be. ‘A true 
monastic lives without security, dependent on the unsolicited generosity 
of others. Contrary to what some Westerners might think, this is not 
being a parasite, this is going forth in faith. Jesus also said, “Give ye no 
thought unto the morrow what ye shall eat and what ye shall wear." We 
should have faith that if we practise sincerely we won’t starve, we will be 
supported not just materially but in every way.’ 
And so, living out her faith absolutely, Tenzin Palmo stands in a 
strange counter-flow to the rest of twentieth-century society with its 
emphasis on acquisition and satisfaction of desire. She has no home, no 
family, no security, no partner, no sexual relationship, no pension plan. 
She has no need to accumulate. She still owns nothing except the barest 
of essentials – her robes, some texts, a jumper, a sleeping-bag, a few 
personal items. Once she splashed out and bought a luxury, a neck 
pillow for travelling, but lost it soon afterwards. ‘It serves me right. I was 
getting far too attached to it,’ she comments with a laugh. Her bank 
balance remains as meagre as ever, Tenzin Palmo refusing to touch any 
of the donations intended for the nunnery – even for travelling to raise


Yet you know in your heart that if she never saw 
you again she really would not miss you. And her lack of emotional need 
is disconcerting, for the ego likes to be flattered, wants to be wanted. 
From her, however, you’ll never get it. This is her hard-earned ’detached 
engagement’, which allows her to wander freely in the world without the 
entanglement of close personal relationships. 
‘I don’t think it’s a bad thing,’ she says. ‘It doesn’t mean that one 
doesn’t feel love and compassion, that one doesn’t care. It just means 
that one doesn’t hold on. One can be filled with joy to be with someone 
but if one is not it doesn’t matter. People, especially family, get upset if 
you are not attached to them but that’s only because we confuse love 
and attachment all the time.’

Her plans for the future, as much as she will allow herself to have any, 
revolve around a single theme, the one she has had all her life, to gain 
Enlightenment. With this goal still set firmly in her mind, she intends, 
once her task of building the nunnery is done, to go back to the cave. As 
such she will have come full circle. Leaving the world, returning to it, and 
then departing once more to live in solitude to follow the inner life. For 
all the brave new assertions that Enlightenment can be achieved out in 
the world, she feels that the cave is still relevant in our modern world, 
and that is ultimately where she belongs. 
‘I would like to gain very deep realizations,’ she says softly. ‘And all my 
teachers, including the Dalai Lama, have said that retreat is the most 
important thing for me to do during this lifetime. When I am in retreat I 
know at a very deep level that I am in the right place doing the right 
thing,’ she says.