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When Nietzsche Wept
Irvin D. Yalom
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In 19th-century Vienna, a drama of love, fate, and will is played out amid the intellectual ferment that defined the era.
Josef Breuer, one of the founding fathers of psychoanalysis, is at the height of his career. Friedrich Nietzsche, Europe's greatest philosopher, is on the brink of suicidal despair, unable to find a cure for the headaches and other ailments that plague him. When he agrees to treat Nietzsche with his experimental "talking cure", Breuer never expects that he, too, will find solace in their sessions. Only through facing his own inner demons can the gifted healer begin to help his patient.
In When Nietzsche Wept, Irvin Yalom blends fact and fiction, atmosphere and suspense to unfold an unforgettable story about the redemptive power of friendship.
310 pages, Paperback
First published January 1, 1992
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These days, I was thinking a lot about the obsession of Nietzsche and Brewer in the story, about the two men hiding behind the meaningless imaginations they make of the people around them (women) and magnify the problem in their mind and fall in love with that problem and finally in the mind They eat them and hate them, and those ignorant people live their lives everywhere; Breuer's and Nietzsche's obsessions are similar to what we sometimes do, we hide a huge amount of our inner fears and worries behind illusions and get so immersed in our wrong mental image that the confusion caused by it is worse. From what we have run away from, it finally takes hold of us and then we come to our senses and see that accepting that fear,
I am infatuated with this book, I am infatuated that the author has written the real characters of that era so beautifully together with an imaginary image of an interesting and attractive friendship between Nietzsche and Breuer with the same pen and makes it so real that if the explanation section at the end of the book We don't read it, we believe it, two great characters from two different angles to become human, to live and understand as a human being, and to be perfect and away from mental obsessions that only lead to the destruction of everyone, here these two famous characters are the beginning of a good story in They have brought us and they take us with them to the places where we search in ourselves among Nietzsche's famous sentences and involve us inside...
When Nietzsche Wept was one of those books that was still lovely due to the specialized terms and names that appeared next to the story, and it made me want to understand how this Nietzsche made with the author's mind made its way from Nietzsche. The one we know separates and rediscovers his life and is saved from his inner pain and comes alive again... it was interesting and very readable, read it and enjoy it...
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When Nietzsche wept, Irvin D. Yalom
When Nietzsche Wept is a 1992 novel by Irvin D. Yalom.
The novel starts with Dr. Josef Breuer, sitting in a cafe in Venice, Italy waiting for Lou Salomé, who was involved with Friedrich Nietzsche.
She has written a letter stating that the future of the philosophy of Germany is at stake and that the German philosopher needs help desperately.
The plot develops into a therapy where Breuer needs to have his soul treated, i.e. to help him get over a patient who he treated for hysteria and with whom he has fallen in love, whereas Nietzsche needs help with his migraines.
Influenced by the revolutionary ideas of his young disciple Sigmund Freud, Josef Breuer starts the dangerous strategy that will mean the origin of the psychoanalysis. Thanks to their unusual relationship, both of them will see how their perspective of life changes completely.
The story also explains how Friedrich Nietzsche received the inspiration to write his famous book, Thus Spoke Zarathustra.
Titles printed in Iran: "And Nietzsche cried"; "When Nietzsche wept"; "When Nietzsche cried"; Author: Erwin D. Yalom; Date of first reading: One day in October 1994.
Title: And Nietzsche Wept; Author: Erwin D. Yalom; Translator: Mahshid Mirmoazi; Tehran, Nei Publishing House, second edition 2011, on 453 pages; Illustrated, photo, ISBN 9643126161; 13th edition of 2012; Topic: Stories by writers of the United States of America - 20th century
Title: When Nietzsche cried; Translator: Sepideh Habib; Tehran, Karvan, 1385, on 476 pages; ISBN 9648497435; Third edition 2017; Another edition of Tehran, Golshan Raz, 2019; ISBN 9789647522236; Another edition of Tehran, Nash Ghatre, 2011, 11th edition of 2011; 15th edition of 2013; ISBN 9786001192029; 22nd edition 2015;
Title: When Nietzsche cried; Translator: Amir Alijanpour; Tehran, Avai Maktoob, 2014, on 423 pages; ISBN 9786007364147;
Title: When Nietzsche Wept; ; Translator: Kiyomarth Parsai; Tehran, Jami, 1392, on 424 pages; ISBN 9786001760952;
It is a mixture of reality and imagination, a manifestation of love, destiny and will, in the rationalist city of "Vienna" of the 19th century AD, and on the threshold of the birth of psychoanalytic knowledge; "Friedrich Nietzsche", the greatest philosopher of "Europe", "Joseph Breuer", one of the founders of psychoanalysis and a medical student, a young man named "Sigmund Freud", all three elements are woven together in the structure of the novel, until the epic of forgetting. It is impossible to create an imaginary relationship between extraordinary illness and exceptional treatment; At the beginning of the novel, Le Salomé, an unattainable woman, asks Brewer to rush to the help of the desperate Nietzsche, who is in danger of committing suicide, using the method of "talking therapy"; In this fascinating novel, two prominent and mysterious men of history go to the depths of their obsessions, and in this way, they reach the liberating power of friendship.
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One of the best books I've read in terms of the tension of the story that doesn't have words, but also full of psychological and philosophical concepts:
depression is the price one pays to know oneself. The deeper you look at life, the deeper you suffer.
People usually compensate their loneliness with their friends, and those who don't like with their God, but those who don't love and their God is dead. . . I don't know anyone who regretted reading it
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What greatness is this 😍
Although I hate all philosophy books, the book here is different...
The book talks about Nietzsche himself and focuses more on the human side of his personality and tells his story when he was tired and treated for depression when the girl he loved refused to marry him... Is it
in philosophy? Of course, in it..but it came in the form of a very interesting dialogue between Nietzsche and the doctor treating
him..from the books in which you will read each sentence more than once..from the books that you can read again..and certainly from the books that are very difficult to forget.. :)
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The enchanting book When Nietzsche Wept by Irwin Yalom is a book that everyone (especially any psychologist) should read at least once before they die.
When Nietzsche Wept is a wonderful combination of the novel, psychology and philosophy, and admirably the combination of the three is kept to the utmost in moderation, and none overpowers the other. In this book, Yalom takes us on a journey to the unconscious mind and teaches us in the form of a story how to proceed in order to reach self-awareness and self-exploration.
One of the best books I have read in my life...
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Lasting sentences of the book:
Hope is a necessity.
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I don't know how much of my life I have lost just by not looking or by looking and not seeing.
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The joy of being observed is so deep that perhaps the real suffering from old age, bereavement or having a longer life than those we love is the fear of continuing a life in which no one can observe us.
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usually the most important question is the one that is not asked.
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the truth itself is not sacred, what is sacred is the search we make to find our truth.
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thought is a shadow of our feeling, darker, emptier and simpler.
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What doesn't kill me makes me stronger.
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No one has ever done anything only for the sake of others, all our actions are selfish, everyone serves only himself, everyone loves only himself.
It seems that you are surprised by what I said. isn't it? Maybe you think about those you love. Ponder more to find that you don't love them: what you love is the pleasant feeling that comes from loving them! You love the passion, not the person who inspires the passion.
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According to Breuer, a commitment made to a patient could not be taken back. When he took responsibility for the disease, he never failed to spend time and energy on him.
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Revealing the source of each symptom, in a way, causes it to be resolved.
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one should learn to distance oneself and look at oneself from a distance.
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Farewell is usually accompanied by words that deny the continuation of the event.
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If tension is the price to be paid for insight, let it be.
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the counselor's personality characteristics predict his counseling method.
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Philosophical therapy is to learn how to listen to your own voice.
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Christ: take from your parents and culture to reach perfection.
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If we climb enough, we will reach a height where the calamity no longer appears to be calamity.
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there is a long distance between knowing something through reason and understanding it emotionally.
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The suppression of anger makes a person sick.
Understanding others
means forgiving them.
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Dostoevsky writes that there are things that should not be said, except to friends; There are things that should not be said, even to friends; And finally, there are things you should not say, even to yourself! Certainly, the things that Yosef has not even told himself until now have come out of him like this.
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life is a spark between two voids, darkness before birth and darkness after death.
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Ultimately, we experience ourselves only in the present.
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I dream of a love in which a mutual desire to search for a higher truth emerges between two people. Maybe you shouldn't call it love. Maybe its real name is friendship.
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Marriage should not be a prison, but a garden where something superior is cultivated.
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everyone always dies alone with any number of companions.
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"Don't give birth to a child unless you are able to create a creator."... It is wrong to have children indiscriminately
, it is wrong to have children to reduce your loneliness, it is wrong to aim your life by producing yourself. And it is wrong if we try to achieve immortality by reproduction, just because the sperm contains a part of our consciousness!
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you can't rely on anyone but yourself.
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To become strong, you must first sink your roots into nothingness and learn to face the loneliest loneliness.
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we must live as if we are free. Although we cannot escape from fate, we must engage with it, we must will the outcome of our fate. We must love our destiny.
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To truly relate to someone, you must first relate to yourself. If we cannot embrace our loneliness, we will benefit from another as a shield against isolation. Only when a person can live like a hawk - without needing the presence of another - will he find the ability to love.
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Isolation has meaning only in isolation. When you share it with someone else, it evaporates.
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When Nietzsche cried, this book will be included in the list of books that came at the right time and read at the right time 🤩
For a while I lost focus while reading I got it back while reading Narcissus and Goldmund last month and then I read almost without enthusiasm, missing something I can't grasp and describe exactly and I thought I need light readings to regain my activity, but I discovered that on the contrary, what I needed was reading that forces me to focus, making me re-read sometimes. And after I had put another novel in my plan to read it I found myself leaving it without starting it and moving on to this novel, I suddenly felt that it might be what I needed and my feeling was right 😍.
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The beginning was quiet, giving the suggestion that the novel will be easy, but do not believe the ease of the beginnings. Fenice will not leave the conversation easy. Just wait for him to appear and start talking. He will force you against your will to focus and you may re-read the sentences, but with pleasure, not distress. I will be frank and admit that I felt stupid at times and not well understood. And I regained the feeling that I was a “donkey” and this is how I felt when I read philosophy. But the style of the novel is wonderful, and I imagined that it would be more difficult, and I was ready for more complexity, but it mostly needs focus and thinking, but without excessive complexity.
When Nietzsche cried is the beginning of my meeting with the writer and psychiatrist Irvin D Yalom, and it will certainly not be the last. By the way, one of the reasons for my admiration for the book is the psychology part in it, and it talks about feelings, feelings and thoughts, which mostly came from the doctor’s tongue, and he discussed with Nietzsche to put the philosophical side.
Perhaps because the writer is an honorary professor of psychiatry at Stanford University and practices psychiatry, this psychological aspect came to be strong and distinct.
When the patient turns into a doctor and the doctor into a patient , when a patient resorts to treatment, the doctor is forced to suggest and perhaps reverse roles so that he can escape from the thick crust with which the patient protects himself from others. Nietzsche is When the doctor begins to reveal his smallest fears and details of his life and thoughts to attract his patient to reveal what is inside him but then finds himself transformed from a doctor to Already ill, the therapy sessions began to turn from an excuse to treat Nietzsche to an attempt to cure Joseph himself.
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Perhaps you should learn to speak to yourself more clearly. In the last few days I've realized that philosophical therapy involves learning to listen to your inner voice.
Sweeping the chimney.. Sweeping her chimney means letting herself be allowed to ventilate her brain, clearing her mind of all disturbing thoughts, and
when you begin the novel in pursuit of reading Nietzsche indirectly, you meet Dr. Joseph Breuer, his life and his words attract you more, perhaps because I felt him close to me, and I felt some of his fears and thoughts. As for Nietzsche, I felt his loneliness, isolation, distrust of others and closed to himself. about women.”
If one of my tears were felt, she would say, she would say in an audible whisper: I was finally free. I was trapped all these years. This guy, this dry, nervous guy, never let me flow before.
I will always be alone, but what a difference, what a difference I choose what to do. Choose your destiny, then love your destiny, and
I loved their discussions and dialogues very much. Since my childhood , - life - a spark between two spaces. Nice pic . But isn't it strange that we are preoccupied with the second void and not thinking about the first? As for the doctor : Josef Breuer (born January 15, 1842 - died June 20, 1925) was a prominent physician who made fundamental discoveries in neurophysiology, and led to his work with his patient Bertha Pappenheim, known as Anna or in the 1880s to the development of talk therapy (the method of emptying) and laying the foundations for psychoanalysis developed by his protégé Sigmund Freud
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Medicine not only mentions Joseph Breuer as an important researcher in the field of respiratory physiology and balance, but also as an outstanding diagnostician of diseases, and the physician of a whole generation of great personalities in Vienna at the end of the
future century, who knows when, perhaps fifty years later? This talk therapy may become common. That 《Anxiety Medicine》 become a specialty, and they are trained in it in medical colleges or perhaps in the departments of philosophy
. By the way, the character of Sigmund Freud was present in the novel, so Dr. Breuer was a guide to him as he considered him a friend despite the age difference who loves to discuss and talk with him, and he was considered a family friend.
The meeting of Nietzsche and Joseph Breuer is fictional, but there are facts and ideas that were realistic and the characters are real, and the writer made this clear in his observation at the end of the novel, clarifying the real and the imagined. Thank him for that.
A philosophical, psychological novel that raises many ideas and questions in life, and surely you will find yourself in many of these questions. Life, death, love, choices, success, personal, community and family expectations, faith, isolation, loneliness, marriage, subconscious mind, dreams ,...... The pinnacle of life, you're hit, Sig. Summit, the highest peak in the climb of life! But the problem with the peaks is that they lead to the slope. From the top I can see the remaining years of my life stretching before me, and the sight does not please me. I only see old age, weakness, becoming a father, becoming a grandfather. Have you lived your life to the full? Or did she live through you? Did you choose it? Or did she choose you? Did you love her? Or do you regret it? Do you not stand helpless, grieve over the life you did not live?
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The last thing I will say about this novel, you know mint, but you eat strong mint seriously, not any words and feel refreshed like that. This novel makes such a recovery in the brain 🤩🤩 and
although I am not faithful to it, but this novel I will need to read it again 🤩 with greater focus and more refutation of ideas, I need I read it again and focus on every word and discuss it with myself more.
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"Sickness is the death of the world. I am the disease. I am the death of the world." It was wonderful to discover Nietzsche, who came into my life with his proposition, from the pen of Irvin D. Yalom...
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The Doctor of Despair
The fin de siecle Viennese satirist, Karl Kraus, took a dim view of the emerging field of psychiatry: “Psychoanalysis is that mental illness for which it regards itself as therapy.” And, somewhat surprisingly, this is the main theme of this novel by an eminent psychotherapist. Psychiatry is indeed a field of Byzantine relationships. Perhaps that is Yalom’s point.
Friedrich Nietzsche and Josef Breuer never really met; but Yalom puts them in an intense relationship of mutual therapy, each believing that the other is the patient and he the therapist. Breuer, Freud’s mentor and the discoverer of the psychoanalytic ‘talking cure’, is acutely depressed; Nietzsche, the as yet unknown philosopher, suffers from debilitating migraines.
Nietzsche seeks to teach Breuer about ‘freedom’ by which he means a sort of resignation to one’s fate. Breuer sees his task as revealing Nietzsche’s emotional reality to himself. Neither succeeds. But in their failures they accomplish remarkable psychological things with themselves by trying to help the other. Breuer frees himself from his obsession with a patient and Nietzsche learns how to reduce the severity of his migraines.
It appears, then, that Karl Kraus was on to something important as far as Yalom is concerned. Kraus summarised the situation thus: “My unconscious knows more about the consciousness of the psychologist than his consciousness knows about my unconscious.” Psychoanalysis is Byzantine indeed. Does anyone really understand its mechanism and effects? Yalom seems to doubt it.
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The dialogue in the novel here goes beyond the limit of fun, an imaginary meeting between Nietzsche and the doctor Joseph Breuer , an interview between two different minds and thoughts
, and each attempt to heal the other . Nietzsche’s personality as a philosopher and human being came close to his human weakness despite the solidity and unity of his personality, philosophy and opinions , a mixture of philosophy, self-analysis and reality in a wonderful literary text.
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This book deals with the imaginary encounter between Friedrich Nietzsche, the famous philosopher, and Dr. Josef Breuer.
The book consists of three parts. The first part deals with how Dr. "Breuer" and "Nietzsche" got to know each other and Breuer's efforts to convince Nietzsche to accept the treatment, the second part covers the treatment sessions and long and basically philosophical conversations between these two people, and finally, the last part that sums up The conclusion of the story and in other words the end of Nietzsche's treatment period.
Personally, I liked the first part of the story very much. All the insistence of "Brewer" and the tricks he used to somehow convince Nietzsche to accept the treatment. On the other hand, the unattainable Nietzsche and all his philosophy of weaving and playing with his words just to not accept the treatment, it was really one of the most stormy and delicious experiences I had from any book so
far. Nietzsche is not willing to accept the treatment from Breuer because He believes"Whatever doesn't kill him makes him stronger" and claims that his illness has benefited him in two ways.
First, Nietzsche believes that these migraine attacks with the torment they bring to him are like a purifying convulsion that It provides him with the strength to continue the work and secondly, he believes that his eyesight weakness, which has caused him to be unable to study the thoughts of thinkers for years, has enabled him to focus only on his own thoughts, apart from others, and only with the intellectual provisions of his time. and for this reason he considers himself an honest philosopher who writes only from his own experience. Nietzsche writes epics about his illness and sanctifies it because he knows it as an exercise to embrace the suffering of existence.
On the other hand, Breuer believes that Nietzsche desperately needs help, but he is too proud to accept the help of others. He believes that "pride" is a part of Nietzsche's disease that needs to be treated, so he tries to convince him to accept treatment in any way. It is possible, but every time Nietzsche's excessive skepticism, which is the result of the experience of past betrayals, blocks the way to treatment. Finally, Breuer offers a different proposal to contract Nietzsche... Breuer asks Nietzsche to save him from the nihilism he is trapped in and cure him. This is where the insistences of this shrewd doctor finally respond and Nietzsche agrees to accept the doctor's medical treatments and be admitted to a sanatorium in exchange for the treatment of the broken soul of the doctor. From this point on, the focus of the story is on the gradual transformation of this hypocritical relationship into a reliable and trustworthy relationship that is saving for both.
The impression I had of Nietzsche in the beginning was that he was a very depressed and skeptical person who could only see the dark and ruined parts of the world... a lonely and unbelieving person who believed that "everyone has a god of every kind" is to accompany him, he will never understand the depth of his loneliness". But the belief I reached at the end of the story was that Nietzsche is undoubtedly the most daring philosopher of all time. The courage to pass through life in order to understand the fullness and perfection of life can only be done by the bravest people, and I believe that Nietzsche was definitely the pioneer of such a way.
Finally, I have to admit that the translation of the book was extremely accurate and complete. One of the very good features of the translation was the footnotes of the book, which fully explained all the names and diseases, which was really a great blessing for me, who loves such details.
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