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Religion and Spirituality

I want to make a case for Quakerism as a religion.
I suspect that many Friends prefer to think of their Quakerism as a spirituality rather than as a religion. For one thing, “religion” implies belief in God and beliefs in general, and for many of us, “belief in God” isn’t as straightforward as it was a generation or two ago.
Also, “religion” implies tradition, a legacy of beliefs and practices that one has had no part in shaping, leaving you to either accept or rebel against them; religion implies an authority in the community that in some ways supersedes one’s own individual preferences. By contrast, “spirituality” implies individualism—personal sovereignty over one’s own ideas, beliefs, and practices.
For many Friends (in the liberal tradition, at least), one of the most appealing aspects of Quakerism is this freedom to believe and practice what you wish. You can escape the constraints of religion, and for many of us those constraints have been enforced with abuse. Thus, for many Friends, joining a Quaker meeting means joining a group of like-minded people who accept that each of us is practicing our own form of spirituality. In this view, meeting for worship becomes, in essence, a form of group meditation.
For me, however, Quakerism is both a religion and a spirituality. Let me explain by trying to define spirituality and religion as integrally related.
For me, spirituality is the ideas, attitudes, emotions, and practices one embraces in order to align one’s inner life toward personal transformation and toward the transcendental and to align one’s outer life toward right living.
For me, religion is the collective spirituality practiced by a community. Religion is the ideas, attitudes, feelings, and practices the community embraces in order to align its inner life toward collective transformation and toward the transcendental (God—more about this in a moment), and to align the community’s outer life toward justice, peace, equality, earthcare, and service in the world.
For religious communities have a collective inner life, just as individuals have a personal inner life. (Some Friends, especially in the 18th century, called this collective inner spiritual life of the meeting the angel of the meeting, after Revelations, chapters two and three, which are letters written by Christ to the angels of the meetings of seven churches in Asia Minor.)
Actually, all communities have an inner life. Clubs, professional associations, businesses, municipalities—all these communities have some kind of inner life. But these communities are rarely self-conscious enough, self-reflective enough, small enough, or organized in such a way as to manifest a collective consciousness coherent enough to work with in a deliberate and meaningful way. These communities can still experience transformation. On very rare occasions, they can even experience the transcendental. And they can bend toward justice (or toward oppression) in their presence in the world.
But the thing about a religious community is that it’s designed to work with its collective consciousness. It’s designed to provide shape and context for the spirituality of the individuals who comprise its collective consciousness; but it also works directly at the collective level with ideas, attitudes, emotions, and practices that only the community as such can embrace.
For most religions, this direct attempt at collective faith and practice is limited to the worship service. Friends enjoy a number of other “venues” for collective spirituality in addition to worship: worship sharing groups, clearness committees, even committee work itself—we conduct all of our gatherings and discernment as meetings for worship, at least in theory, as shared tools for aligning our collective inner and outer lives.
What really makes Quakerism a religion, in my view, though, is that our practice of collective spirituality sometimes manifests in collective transcendental experience. We call this direct experience of God the gathered meeting. By “God” I mean here the Mystery Reality behind our experience of the gathered meeting. We may not be able to collectively articulate what that presence is very well—it’s a mystery. But we share the knowledge of its reality.
The direct experience and knowledge of that reality puts “belief in God” in a new light. We don’t believe in God as a matter of faith in a legacy or tradition of ideas. Rather, we know God collectively through direct experience. As individuals, we may elaborate in various ways on that immediate apperception of the divine which we’ve experienced in the gathered meeting for worship—we may have certain beliefs about what’s happened.
The community may do the same thing with its collective experience and develop a “theology”, as early Friends did, as a way of sharing the experience—with each other, with our children, with potential converts. But, for early Friends, such evangelizing did not aim at converting people to a set of beliefs, but at bringing them into that experience, bringing them into direct relationship with God. So also today, our theology, our ideas about what’s happening in our collective spiritual life as a meeting and as a movement, are only tools for pointing toward the Presence we experience in the gathered meeting and/or in our own hearts.
Thus Quakerism does have a tradition, it does have a legacy, and that legacy does include ideas, attitudes, feelings, and practices for the individual to practice as the Quaker way. But these are not as fully developed as in some other religions. This is mostly because we are so inwardly focused and have abandoned outward forms to such a thorough degree. We don’t light votive candles, pray rosaries, have stock hymns or a religious calendar lectionary. Technically speaking, we don’t even have a religious calendar at all. We don’t have a Benedictine Rule. We don’t have the formal elements of the Eightfold Path, breathing exercises and asanas, like yoga does.
Even to “turn toward the light” or to “sink down in the Seed”, favorite phrases of George Fox representing spiritual “practices”, are very ambiguous as actual practices; it’s taken Rex Ambler to “systematize” the former to some degree as a spiritual practice, and to my knowledge, no one has done this for sinking down into the Seed. And even Ambler’s Experiment with Light is a collective practice, as well as an individual one.
This leaves us as individuals free to hold onto any more fully developed spiritual practices we may have picked up from other traditions, as I have done myself. And we can take some of these with us into our collective Quaker practice; I use some of the same deepening techniques I use in my personal practice to deepen when I attend Quaker meeting for worship. These don’t just help me as an individual to experience worship more deeply; I think they deepen the collective worship, as well.
But the collective practices of the Quaker way are what make it a religion, because, through them, we come to know God in ways that are not possible for us as individuals, in ways that transform the community as community. These practices and these experiences are what make us a peculiar people of God—that is, a religion.
This post is getting pretty long. In the next one, I want to explore how the collective spiritual practice of a religious community is shaped by its founding collective, transcendental, spiritual experience; how the focus of the practice evolves as the community moves away from this foundational experience in time, through the generations; how this kind of evolution has shaped the legacy we have inherited as liberal Quakerism today; and what all this means for us.
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  1. Something transcends, yet it’s accessible and well-disposed to us; that’s the whole point of the exercise.
    “Religion” has come to mean “ideas about that and what to do about it, with little or no direct interaction with what it is that transcends. People have come to consider such material worthless (to some extent rightly so), which was half the burden of the early Friends movement. (The other, larger half, which we’ve lost, was: “We’ve met what transcends; and so can you!”)
    “Experience” is the evidence; spirituality has come to mean the various practices intended to evoke such evidence.
    Contemporary Friends may have largely dumped the actual religious (ie meta-informational) part of their tradition, which doesn’t give them much rationale for what we do or anything much to say about what it means. We keep practicing the traditional spirituality, but can’t readily
    tell anyone else why they’d find it worthwhile.
    But maybe we need a better, less Puritan theological formulation… if only we dared say anything whatsoever without laboratory proof.
  2. I have two things to comment on: You state, “Even to “turn toward the light” or to “sink down in the Seed”, favorite phrases of George Fox representing spiritual “practices”, are very ambiguous as actual practices…” I have the works of Fox on my computer. (Scanned and run through OCR, so not error free.) Neither of these phrases, “turn toward the light” or “sink down in the Seed” are found in Fox’s Works, barring some error in my copy that obscures an occurrence. Can you substantiate your claim that these are “favorite phrases” of Fox?
    #2. Would you care to comment on the distinction between “believe in God” and “believe God”? What difference do those distinctions make in the life of the community?
    Thanks for any response
    1. Without knowing what Steve would say — I’m puzzled and intrigued by #2. No one who believed in God as traditionally described would expect God to be either mistaken or lying (although there is that incident in 1 Kings 22 where God indirectly deceives all of Ahab’s prophets except Micaiah, knowing that Ahab will believe them and get himself killed in battle.)
      So “believing God” shouldn’t be an issue; but ‘believing something one mistakenly believes that God means to say’ — That certainly can happen. And hence, disbelieving something God does intend to say, if one believes that isn’t God’s intended meaning.
      Given that finite beings and Infinite Being have somewhat different perspectives, a person might need to grow a whole new set of ears, might need years of Divine teaching to see a meaning he’s not yet prepared for. (People can take a very long time just coming to know and understand each other, let alone God.)
    2. I got the general idea of “stand still in the light” and “sink down in the seed” as “practices” from Doug Gwyn’s A Sustainable Life, for which this is a major theme. He specifically states this on page xxv. He quotes Fox saying “stand still in the light” on page 6, from Works, Vol 7, pp. 20–21: “And stand still in the Light, and submit to it, and the other will be hushed and gone; and then content[ment] comes.” See also Works, vol 4, pp. 17–18.
      He quotes Penington (not Fox) saying “sink down in the seed” on page 8: “Be no more than God hath made thee. Give over thine own willing; give over thine own running; give over thine own desiring to know or to be any thing, and sink down in the seed which God sows in the heart and let that grow in thee, and be in thee, and breathe in the, and act in thee, and thou shall find by sweet experience that the Lord know that, and owns that, and will lead it to the inheritance of life, which is his portion.” (“Some Directions to the Panting Soul,” Works, vol 2, p. 205.
      Fox writes something very close to the phrase in the Journal (p. 437, Nickalls): Be still and wait in your own condition, and settled in the Seed of God that doth not change, that in that ye may feel dear Edward Burrough among you in the Seed . . . .”
      1. Thanks, Steve, for the clarification of the source of the quotes or not-quite-quotes as the case may be. Thanks for that precious quote from Fox regarding Edward Burrough. I am conscious of the cloud of witnesses that surround us today, whose presence may be felt in Christ, the Seed. I also found this in epistle 10, ¨And when temptations and troubles appear, sink down in that which is pure, and all will be hushed, and fly away. Your strength is to stand still, after ye see yourselves…¨
    3. As to “believe in God” and “believe God”, I never thought about that distinction before, and I’m not sure what to make of it.
      “Believe in God” has certain established connotations in the popular mind about believing that there is a transcendent, perhaps “supreme” being worthy of our worship. I suspect that most meetings in the programmed tradition share this belief and that most in the liberal tradition either don’t or feel they have to qualify it somehow; that’s how I feel.
      In theory, worshipping without a more or less universally shared “belief in God”, without having a being to worship, should have a profound effect on the truth and quality of the worship. In my experience, however, it doesn’t. At least not on my end, as a worshipper. Maybe it does on God’s end, if there is such a being.
      I have been to hundreds of worship services in which everybody agreed they were worshipping God in the traditional Christian understanding of God, and I never had a sense of God’s presence; whereas, I have felt “God” present in the gathered meetings for worship that I’ve participated in, in which there was no such consensus about the object of our worship or who or what “God” is.
      Several of those gathered meetings were meetings for business in worship, and we did “believe God”, in the sense that we knew we were being guided by the Holy Spirit and we followed.
      So it seems to me that what’s important for the worshipping community is not so much what you believe, but rather THAT you believe when you’re in the Presence.
      1. Steve and Forrest, thanks for your responses regarding the distinction between believe and believe in. My own journey in that regard began with noticing a difference in the wording of the conversation between Jesus and the Jews after feeding the 5,000 in John 6. My translation has Jesus state, ¨This is the work of God that you believe in him whom God has sent.¨ The Jews respond, ¨What works do you do that we should believe you?¨ These two statements do not connect for one is believe in (a static situation) while the other is believe (a dynamic relationship). My sense was corroborated when some friends pointed out that the Greek we translate as “believe in” has to do with “believe that one”; the “in” being the pointer. So in current practice of Christianity, to believe in God is/can be dramatically different than believe God. We can’t believe God if we don’t hear. And we don’t believe what we have heard if we secretly (or openly) keep another basket of eggs just in case this one breaks and all the eggs fall through.
        I have tried to articulate my understanding of this concept in my blog post, http://nffquaker.org/profiles/blogs/the-grammar-of-the-gospel.
    4. My understanding is that the Greek idiom ‘believe in’ was not about the existence of the person/whatever in question, but about a grant of authority.
      ie Josephus at one point asks a fellow Judean to “believe in me”, ie to follow his lead & accept his orders.
      So Jesus would be implying that his antagonists should give him the authority due one sent by God; they would be asking why they should believe his implied claim to be such a person.
      So far as anyone doesn’t believe something God is working to tell them, my own best guess is that sometimes people need a catastrophic Gestalt shift before they can fit a message into their worldview.
      1. Thanks for this insight. It fits in with my growing insight that much of the book of John has to do with establishing Jesus as the prophet like Moses whom we are to hear in all things. “This is the work of God that gains one the food which endures to eternal life that you believe/accept the authority of the one whom God has sent to teach you…” Also plug that concept into John 3:16 and it fits much better with the rest of the passage through verse what? 19 or 20 I think. OK, I better stop.

Quakers & Capitalism—The Book | Through the Flaming Sword



Quakers & Capitalism—The Book | Through the Flaming Sword



Quakers & Capitalism—The Book


This page features links to sections I’ve already written of my book on Quakers and Capitalism by that title. Note that since this is still a work in progress, there are notes here and there about content that still needs to be developed. In some of these areas, I have the research but haven’t done the writing yet. In others, I am hoping that some of my readers will be able to contribute. These notes appear in brackets.
Quakers and Capitalism

Introduction

The 1650s: The Lamb’s War and the Social Order

Transition (1661-1695): Persecution & Gospel Order

The Double-culture Period (1695-1895): The Double-Culture Period

Evangelicalism and Political Economy (the 1800s)

Second Transition (1895-1920): The Corporation, the Great War, Liberalism and the Social Order
Appendices

Quaker Contributions to Industrial Capitalism—A Summary

Foundations of a True Social Order

Seebohm Rowntree – A bibliography

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§ 12 Responses to Quakers & Capitalism—The Book
Marge Abbott
November 29, 2014 at 2:41 pm

Have you read Frederick Tolles “Meeting House and Counting House”? Another source is a book published decades ago by the Harvard Business School on Isaac Hicks, a NYC merchant who gave up a thriving business to travel as a companion to Elias Hicks.

Marge Abbott
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Steven Davison
November 30, 2014 at 10:30 am

Thank you, Marge. Yes I have read Meeting House and Counting House, but not the book about Hicks. Sounds interesting.
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Stephen McKernon
January 3, 2012 at 8:03 pm

Hi Stephen,

Happy New Year!

I’ve been fascinated by your blog and it has prompted me to do a whole bunch of self-challenging and self-education.

So, the obvious  I”m wondering when you are going to publish your book?

I am very interested in working with others to develop practical guides and resources for businesses. Is this something you are interested in, or do you know of others who share this interest?

Regards

Stephen
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Steven Davison
January 6, 2012 at 1:54 pm

Hi, Stephen

Sorry it’s taken me a while to respond. I’m glad you find my blog useful. As for when I might publish, I don’t really know. I haven’t done much research on the history of Quaker economics in the 20th century and that could take a while. That is one of the reasons I started the blog, to get some of this material out there without having to wait until it was all ready. What I would really like is to find collaborators who have already done this research and include them as co-authors.

I am somewhat interested in practical business guides, though bigger picture macroeconomic issues interest me more. One little bit that I haven’t done with the research I’ve done so far is a more thorough treatment of Quaker innovations in business practice and labor relations during the 18th and 19th centuries. There’s quite a bit of material available, and I’ve even read most of it, but either didn’t take good notes or haven’t yet got to them. Also, George Fox wrote a rather detailed epistle to business people about their practice quite early on; I have the reference somewhere, but would have to did to find it.

There are some good and more contemporary pamphlets on business practice, which I’ve skimmed. And I’ve been communicating with a Friend who is very knowledgeable and personally active in labor relations. She is the person who could probably work with you most closely. Her name is Linda Lotz and her email address is llotz@hotmail.com. I think Linda is right that labor relations deserve more attention in our testimonies’ evolution and they would be a big part of a more enlightened testimony on business practice.

Well, I’ve hinted at a lot and not given you much that is substantive. Let’s keep corresponding and I’ll gather some resource references I think you might find useful.

And thanks again for reading and contacting me.

Steve
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Stephen McKernon
January 8, 2012 at 12:10 am

Hi Steven,

Thanks for your comments and your generosity with information! I will follow through and keep you posted.

I could possibly help as an ‘assistant researcher’ or ‘second head’ on Quaker economics in the 20th century if that is of help. I’m a member of Quakers and Business (http://qandb.org/) and perhaps people there would be of help too?

Don’t worry about Foxe’s comments – I’ve found the most succinct are in letter 200 (e.g. see http://www.hallvworthington.com/Letters/gfsection9.html). And thanks for the referral to Linda.

My thinking at this stage is to focus on a guide and to that extent avoid overlapping with your work. This points to a focus on recent developments among Quakers and also those aligned with Quaker practice.

In the first instance, I will take a leaf from your book and start using a blog to map out ideas etc.

So once again, thanks for your initiative and energy with such a major task – and my best wishes (and possible help if needed) for the future!

Stephen
ernie weeks
November 4, 2012 at 9:11 pm

Stephen,

I’m a business professor at a small Appalachian university and might be interested in working a bit with you and exchanging ideas with you. Friends in the family for quite awhile, though we usually managed to get kicked out of meeting fairly regularly.

I would suggest looking to two early 20th century sources from the US.

First, Fredrick Taylor who was from a Quaker family – though I think adopted. Here you would have to go to the original sources as “Taylor ism” has less than a good name, but the thoughts and indications are clear…..Indeed, there is a direct line from this work to the sustainable economics writers such as Porter from Harvard who are developing value-chain and community models of business.

Another who you should not ignore is Hoover and his work in disaster relief, and policy changes. Again, a bad name so the orig. would serve you better than the historical revision.

For a general history of the NC Friends in the older days, Stephen Weeks = (also, adopted) is a reliable mid-century source for the period when Friends predominated in NC politics, and shortly thereafter. His work is probably available online. There is an excellent History professor at UT Chattanooga who probably has some interesting source material as well. I’m away from my research material so I can’t provide his name, but he did a quite readable history of Fox a few decades ago now.

Also, of course, the Chase family. There is an odd connection to duPont as well, but it is not direct and I’ve never run it down as to where their early management influences came from.

/ernie
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Steven Davison
November 6, 2012 at 4:56 pm

Hi, Ernie

I know you responded to Stephen (at least I think so; because we sort of have the same name, there’s room for confusion), but I am grateful for your comments. I had forgotten that Taylor was a Friend, and I imagine that both he and Hoover (they knew each other didn’t they?) come from the same technocratic emergence within Progressivism.

I would dearly like to add material about both to my book. My problem is time. I’ve already spent years on this book and I’m already 65. I don’t suppose you would be interested in contributing would you? My solution to the time problem is to invite others to collaborate on bringing the work up through the 20th century.

Steven Davison
Stephen McKernon
November 14, 2012 at 11:55 pm

Hi Ernie and Steven,

Thanks for the referrals – I’m happy to scope stuff and pass it through to you, Steven, if this helps?

I’ll be a month or so as I’m completely snowed under at present – and will let you know when I’ve something to share.

And thanks again!

Stephen
KT
August 24, 2011 at 9:17 pm

I really enjoyed what you wrote so far. However, I did kind of lose it when you wrote about the spirit of capitalism. I don’t know if you read the World is Flat by Thomas Friedman. I could swear that he credited Quakers with helping to open up the New World for trading based on the close connections that the Quakers had. But when I have gone back and tried to find the passage to quote it, I can’t find it. It does fit with what you have written.
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Steven Davison
August 25, 2011 at 8:28 am

Thanks for your comment, Karen. I’m glad you’re enjoying my work so far.

I did skimp on the development of Max Weber’s ideas in The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism as they relate to Friends and their economic history. He wrote a whole book on the topic and referred often to Quakers to illustrate his argument, and I condensed the whole thing down to a few paragraphs. I feel the subject deserves more attention and maybe I’ll return to it with more effort in the future. In the meantime, I’ll review what I have written and see if I can make it clearer and more compelling. Thanks for the feedback.

As for Quakers and New World trade, this is another area that I’ve not studied yet in depth, but I would not be surprised if your memory of Friedman is correct. Penn’s colony was settled quite early in our history and once it was granted by the king in the 1680s—still quite early—the connections with the mother country quickly became the best in the colonies. And the Quaker transatlantic network was extremely valuable. Most other shipping ventures took a 30% loss for granted: theft, damage, graft, piracy, and of course, shipwreck, all took their toll. But, between Friends, many of these problems were minimized and the reliable profitability of trade helped make Friends rich while creating one of the earliest and biggest and most efficient pipelines for goods and money between England and America.

I think I touch on this in one of my posts, but like everything else, there’s a lot more to say.

Thanks again for your interest.
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Paulette Meier
January 22, 2011 at 10:46 pm

Dear Stephen,

I happened to notice your blog on a Facebook posting and am thrilled to find it. Just read the introduction and first chapter of your proposed book, and I’m appreciating so much what you’re laying out. You’re addressing questions I’ve had since becoming a Quaker, as well as some of my inner longing as a Friend to be more connected with economic justice activists who challenge and critically analyze contemporary capitalism.
I don’t have the time to read a lot or to engage with others around all this much right now, but I’m so glad you’re writing this. Perhaps later this spring I will organize a short term study group at my meeting to read what you’ve written.

In Friendship,

Paulette Meier
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Steven Davison
January 23, 2011 at 9:06 am

Thanks, Paulette. Stay tuned. There’s more to come, albeit slowly.

Steven
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