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Confession of a Buddhist Atheist

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Stephen Batchelor
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Written with the same brilliance and boldness that made Buddhism Without Beliefs a classic in its field, Confession of a Buddhist Atheist is Stephen Batchelor’s account of his journey through Buddhism, which culminates in a groundbreaking new portrait of the historical Buddha.

Stephen Batchelor grew up outside London and came of age in the 1960s. Like other seekers of his ...more

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Hardcover, 306 pages
Published March 2nd 2010 by Spiegel & Grau (first published 2010)
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Apr 04, 2010Vegantrav rated it it was amazing
First, I should say a brief word about the title: Buddhism is an atheistic religion, so being a Buddhist atheist is not anything at all unusual. Now, granted, many sects of Buddhism believe in various deities and spirits; however, one of the key teachings of Siddhattha Gotama (Batchelor uses the Pali spellings) was his rejection of the theism--his rejection of the existence of Brahman and Atman: God, The Absolutle, the Self--of the Hindu culture in which he lived. Gotama's atheism, as Batchelor points out, was not an explicit argument against the existence of God but rather a recognition that the existence of God is not relevant to the human condition.

Batchelor's confession leads us down two intertwining paths: Batchelor's own personal spiritual journey and a biography of the life of Siddhattha Gotama.

Batchelor relates his initiation into Tibetan Buddhism and his life as a monk and his eventual "disrobing"--giving up the monastic life to become a lay Buddhist teacher. Despite belonging to a branch of Buddhism that retains many superstitious beliefs, Batchelor never had much, if any, affinity for the supernatural elements of that sect but rather sought the peace and truth to be discovered in meditation and in following Gotama's Dhamma (the Pali spelling of Dharma).

The real interest in this book, for me anyway, is Batchelor's quest for the historical Gotama, which is not unlike the quest for the historical Jesus in which biblical scholars are engaged. The Gotama whom Batchelor finds is a man who teaches some things that many Buddhists would find shocking: for example, Batchelor argues that Gotama rejected the belief in karma and reincarnation.

Batchelor's Gotama, though, is not terribly unlike other portraits of the Buddha (I am thinking here of Karen Armstrong's biography of the Buddha): Gotama is a wise and witty man who urges his followers to think for themselves, who urges them to take nothing on faith or on authority or even on his own word but to test all things for themselves. Yes, Gotama does think he has found the answer to salvation in this life, but nibbana (Pali for nirvana) is not some heavenly bliss or even just escape from samsara; rather, nibbana is the condition that is attained upon a recognition and acceptance of the contingency of one's existence and an acceptance of the suffering of life, an embracing of this suffering, and then a transcending of the suffering so that, despite its existence, there is a cessation (a blowing out: nibbana) of the effects of suffering and of one's contingent status upon one's life.

The biography of Gotama that Batchelor provides is drawn from the Pali Canon, and Batchelor uses many of the same critical methods that biblical scholars use in approaching the historical Jesus. Batchelor gives readers a great perspective on the political and social world in which Gotama lived. I am certainly no scholar of Buddhism or of the life of Siddhattha Gotama; however, it seems to me that Batchelor does a great job of providing an accurate portrayal of the life and times of Siddhattha Gotama, and he does so without trying to persuade anyone of any particular religious or philosophical beliefs.

Batchelor is simply telling us the story of the life of the Buddha, and for anyone interested in that story, I would highly recommend this book. The figure of Siddhattha Gotama who emerges in this book is one of who was far more of a philosopher than a religious figure, and Gotama was certainly not dogmatist and seems to have little interest at all in organized religion or in the supernatural elements (God, life after death, karma, spirits, etc.) with which many religions are deeply concerned.

What I found most attractive in this portrait of Gotama (and this feature is born out in other biographies of Gotama) was the emphasis on the individual finding truth for herself or himself. Gotama had attained enlightenment for himself, but he did not ask us to take anything that he taught on faith but rather to seek the truth for ourselves and even to put to the test the core teachings of his Dhamma. (less)
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Feb 01, 2013Rebecca Dobrinski rated it it was amazing
Atheism is NOT About You

Really, it’s not. It is not an affront to your existence. It is about science. It is about questioning and searching for answers. It is about thinking for oneself.

For the God-themed issue of Zen Dixie, I read three books on atheism. No, these books did not provide me with any life-changing realizations – it was more like, as “they” say, “preaching to the choir.”

Yes, I am an atheist. No, I do not believe in anyone else’s God. And, like I said in the opening paragraph, my atheism is not about anyone else but me.

After reading these books, I feel as though the world needs to be reminded that when someone realizes she is an atheist, it is not an attack on everyone else in the world that believes in God. This is the first striking lesson I learned from reading these books. People, even total strangers, take one’s atheism personally.

Next, I am still the same person you knew the minute before you read the words “I am an atheist.” Yep, still the same brunette with brown eyes, tattoos, and (multiple) degrees, who cares for her friends and volunteers for good causes. This is no different than if you never knew I had a cat.

This is another reminder the world needs after being told someone is an atheist. They are still the same person you liked, loved, and respected before you found out. Yes, you may be concerned that he will not be joining you in the afterlife, but he does not join you for dinner every night either. So, remember, it’s OK. The world will not end if your friend is an atheist.

And now, onto the show…

To start this themed review, I began with Seth Andrews’s Deconverted: A Journey from Religion to Reason.

Seth Andrews is the founder of The Thinking Atheist (TTA) community. You can find TTA at the web site (www.thethinkingatheist.com) and on Facebook. Andrews has a number of volunteers who help with the web site and Facebook page. Before he founded TTA, Andrews led a very different life – he was a Christian radio broadcaster and one of the outspoken faithful.

Andrews likened announcing one’s atheism to “dipping yourself in jet fuel and showing up for a candlelight church service. The crowd is convinced you’re going up in flames, and they’re terrified that you’ll take others with you.”

Deconverted was the story of Andrews’s journey from believer to atheist. He chronicled the doubt and questioning, the frustration, and ultimately his desire to “expose the flaws in the very teachings I once held so dear.”

He admitted to writing it in what he calls “plain English,” making the tone and language very accessible. Andrews also provided some insight into what many Americans have experienced when “coming out” as an atheist. He questioned the indoctrination of children into religion before they are mature enough to make the decision on their own. He pointed out the misogyny in the bible as well as the contradictions from book to book. All of these were the little things that planted the seeds of doubt and pushed Andrews to seriously consider the role religion played in his life and in society as a whole.

All in all, Andrews offered the following advice both in Deconverted and at The Thinking Atheist: Assume nothing. Question everything. Challenge the Opposition. And start thinking.

From Deconverted, I picked up Richard Dawkins’s The God Delusion.

Richard Dawkins came to atheism with the mind of science. Being a historian rather than a scientist, I admit that I found Dawkins to be somewhat dry in places. The God Delusion was an excellent book – and one I highly recommend – but, if you are like me, do not expect it to be a quick read.

Dawkins, much like Andrews, highlighted the many inconsistencies of the world’s religions. (Yes, I know that Dawkins wrote The God Delusion before Andrews wrote Deconverted, but I read Dawkins after Andrews – so, for me, this is an accurate statement.) He dove into the roots of religions and tackled the constant claim that “Hitler was an atheist.” (spoiler alert – he wasn’t)

Dawkins is one of the most widely read published atheists. Both believers and atheists read these books, which can be seen on the Amazon reviews. As I am sure you would expect, the reviews were either strongly for or against Dawkins’s book. The God Delusion is not geared toward converting those strongly attached to their faith, but it certainly reminds those questioning that they are not alone.

One of the parts that sticks with me most from Dawkins’s book is the “New Ten Commandments” he found on the ebonmusings.org web site. He calls them an expression of consensual ethics. Here are a few to ponder:

In all things, strive to cause no harm.
Live life with a sense of joy and wonder.
Always seek to be learning something new.
Question everything.

To these he added, along with three others, “Value the future on a timescale longer than your own.”

These commandments helped lead me to the third book, Stephen Batchelor’s Confession of a Buddhist Atheist.

I will admit, out of the three books this was the one I was most looking forward to reading. After being raised Catholic, I had more than a passing fancy for Buddhism. I read a lot and appreciated even more the ideals and guides for living that Buddhism provides.

Stephen Batchelor left his home in England and wound up in India, studying Buddhism where the exiled Dalai Lama resided. He became a monk and began working on translations of Buddhist texts into English. The more he learned, the more he taught others, especially westerners who were flocking to Buddhism in droves in the late 1960s.

Even before he made the decision to de-robe, Batchelor questioned the organization of Buddhism. He researched and read the ancient texts of Siddattha Gotama and learned that the way the Buddha taught was unlike the religion Buddhism had evolved into. As he explained, he wrote Confession of a Buddhist Atheist “from the perspective of a committed layperson who seeks to lead a life that embodies Buddhist values within the context of secularism and modernity.”

Batchelor was heavier on the Buddhism and lighter on the atheism, but that is not as bad a thing as I had originally thought. Upon finishing the book, I was somewhat disappointed that he devoted so much of the narrative to the history of Buddhism. After digesting the work for a day and pondering the ideas, I can see how the reader would need a greater understanding of the Buddha as Batchelor “knew” him.

Because of this, it is easier to not only grasp Batchelor’s de-robing, but to understand how and why he could not continue as a monk. It is also easier to understand that the Four Noble Truths and the eightfold path are not only tools of becoming enlightened, but are ways to creating a more civilized world and dealing with the pain and suffering of life.

With Buddhism, though, it is easier to grasp the transition from Buddhist monk to Atheist as early Buddhism is similar to the Ten Commandments Dawkins found.

There are some interesting observations to be made from these three books. On the surface, both Andrews and Batchelor were part of their respective clergy. Dawkins and Batchelor are both British. When broken down, each likely had similar paths of thinking that are quite compatible with each other.

This review (as a combination review/essay) originally appeared at Zen Dixie, http://www.zendixie.com/read.html (less)
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Apr 22, 2014Nandakishore Varma rated it liked it · review of another edition
This we may term the fundamental posture of the Buddhist mind. The serious commitment of the Occidental mind to the concerns and value of the living person is fundamentally dismissed, as it is in Jainism, and in the Sankhya too. However, the usual Oriental concern for the monad also is dismissed. There is no reincarnating hero-monad to be saved, released, or found. All life is sorrowful, and yet, there is no self, no being, no entity, in sorrow. There is no reason, consequently, to feel loathing, shock, or nausea, before the spectacle of the world: but, on the contrary, the only feeling appropriate is compassion (karuna), which is immediately felt, in fact, when the paradoxical, incommunicable truth is realized that all these suffering beings are in reality - no beings.



The main point of the doctrine is clear enough, however, which is, namely, that, since all things are without a self, no one has to attain extinction; everyone is, in fact, already extinct and has always been so. Ignorance, however, leads to the notion and therefore the experience of an entity in pain. And not disdain or loathing, but compassion is to be felt for all those suffering beings who, if they were only quit of their ego-notion, would know-and experience the fact-that there is no suffering person anywhere at all.

- Joseph Campbell, The Masks of God, Vol. III – Oriental Mythology


The above quote from Joseph Campbell (especially the highlighted portion) delineates the core concept of the philosophy propounded by Gautama Buddha – the non-existence of the soul. Here is where the Buddha takes off from the philosophies extant in India until that point of time, and takes the radical step of the killing off of the soul. Traditional Hindu thought posits the Atman, or individual soul, as an expression of the Brahman, the World Soul: the self and the Self. The aim of enlightenment is to realise that worldly existence is illusory: the “real” existence begins when one’s ego is extinguished and the oneness with the Brahman is known. This frees the soul from the cycle of karma, birth, rebirth and worldly existence.

The Buddha took this philosophy and stood it on its head. He agreed that suffering arises because of the attachment of the ego to the world – the basic illusory nature of the ego is to be understood, and let go. However, after this event, there is no unveiling of a beatific existence in an everlasting garden of the eternal bliss of oneness with the Brahman – because it doesn’t exist. In fact, nothing exists other than this fleeting moment, this here and the now. This is the liberation, the Nirvana.

On the practical front, the Hindu philosophies reinforced the existing political system. If one’s existence on this earth is illusory, it does not matter whether one is a Kshatriya king enjoying all the palace delights or a lowly untouchable scavenger carting away human excrement – the souls of both these people are parts of the same Brahman. In another life with different karma, they can be reversed until ultimately they merge with the world soul. The duty of the individual was to realise this and be a faithful cog in the machine, all the time trying to attain a higher plane of existence.

The Buddha did not question the fact that one is only a cog in the machine – however, by denying the existence of the soul, he proposed a different solution for the ending of pain: that of the cog to stop functioning as a cog. This was revolutionary in the sense that it threatened the existence of Indian society as one knew it at that point of time.

However, as Buddhism grew and spread as a religion, Gautama’s teachings were coloured and corrupted by the local beliefs wherever it reached. It seems that man’s need for transcendence proved stronger than his need for an earthly nirvana – the result is the religion which the world knows today as “Buddhism”, which is ridden with rituals and superstitions, and the very beliefs in karma and rebirth which the Buddha rejected. And in its birthplace in India, Buddhism was assimilated into Hinduism and the Buddha was transformed into an incarnation of Lord Vishnu!

In Confession of a Buddhist Atheist, internationally reputed Buddhist scholar and former monk Stephen Batchelor analyses this transformation. He does it as he recounts his career transformation from monk to layman; from his initiation into Buddhism under the Dalai Lama, to his loss of faith in its polytheistic worldview and subsequent shift to Zen Buddhism in Korea; his disenchantment with its worship of emptiness and hollow rituals which led to his eventual disrobing and marriage to a fellow bhikhuni (nun); his retracing of Siddhartha’s life journey geographically and historically while researching the Buddha’s discourses at the same time; and his ultimate realisation of its essential atheism.

The full review is available on my blog. (less)
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Feb 17, 2011Caitlin rated it it was amazing
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Not since Chogyam Trungpa's "Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism" has an analysis of Buddhism had such a profound effect on me. Part spiritual autobiography, part scholarly text. Batchelor's monastic journey led to studies and work with many important teachers (the Dalai Lama, for one). But his quest became stymied by increasing unease, due to unquestioning allegiances, archaic conventions and, eventually, as he dug deeper into the Pali Canon (bless his patience), contradictions about the historical (romanticized) Buddha and what it appeared the Buddha was actually doing out there under that Bo Tree. It seems that Gautama, the existentialist, was caught in the midst of serious political struggles and cranky benefactors, never out to found a religion at all, but wishing to build community and share his prescription for removal of suffering (the Four Noble Truths). Only later, has the concept of enlightenment become synonymous with struggle and exclusivity, thanks to his vision having been hijacked and fractured by so many splintered schools of thought. That said, even Batchelor doesn't throw baby out with bathwater, and shows the utmost respect for different perspectives. In the end, though he doesn't remain convinced that there is anything beyond this life, he feels that Buddhism offers a tremendously sane and compassionate way to live, whether or not nirvana exists. Even if one doesn't agree with Batchelor, this is a highly important book on Buddhism, and should be read by all who practice Buddhism or wish to further understand this philosophy. (less)
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Apr 21, 2011James rated it it was ok
Shelves: buddhism
I gave up. He lost me when he ran out of stuff to say, but still had half the book left to write.
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Mar 20, 2010Jim Coughenour rated it did not like it
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"I am glad I belong to a religion that worships a tree." No, this is not Jake Sully saluting the Na'vi in Avatar – it's Stephen Batchelor explaining his "Buddhist atheism." But in this case, 3D means dull, dispiriting and diffuse.

I enjoy confessions, especially when they involve spiritual conturbation: Mark Matousek's Sex, Death, Enlightenment; Andrew Harvey's The Sun at Midnight; even Frank Schaeffer's half-cocked Crazy for God. I also (if rarely) appreciate oblique approaches to spirituality, as in Jacob Needleman's Lost Christianity or Pankaj Mishra's An End to Suffering. What I don't enjoy or appreciate is a book by someone whose journey is as entropic as my own.

Batchelor (who, I have to say, sounds like a genuinely pleasant fellow) wanders through his story like a beggar with his bowl. He aims to recover the genuine teaching of the historical Buddha, but the closest he can get is the jumble of Pali palm-leaf manuscripts, compiled in Siam hundreds of years after Gotama's death. (By comparison the Christian Gospels are terse documentary footage.) He wants to purge Buddhist religiosity of its "supernatural" Hindu elements, yet the Dhammic tenets he retains are as generic and insipid as a fortune cookie.

"I think of myself as a secular Buddhist who is concerned entirely with the demands of this age (saeculum) no matter how inadequate and insignificant my responses to these demands might be. And if in the end there does turn out to be a heaven or nirvana somewhere else, I can see no better way to prepare for it." Astringent radicalism or cutting critique this is not, even with that pointless pinch of Latin.

Batchelor admits he assembles his books like a collage – his Confession bears him out. It's composed of aleatoric autobiography, theological deconstruction, sectarian reconstruction, pilgrimage/travelogue, and tortured, puerile affirmations. One night as he steps into the courtyard of the Lotus Nikko Hotel in Kushinagar, he reflects, "I will never see what Gotama saw, but I can listen to the descendants of the same cicadas he would have heard when night fell in Kusinara all those years ago." Like the Christian hymn "I walked today where Jesus walked," this is kitsch on the verge of nonsense.




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Dec 15, 2018Jenn "JR" rated it really liked it · review of another edition
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As an atheist, finding myself surrounded by ever increasing volume and number of voices espousing Buddhist beliefs, I was immediately drawn to this book.

I expected more discussion of atheism vs Buddhism but what I found was more detail about the fragmented schools of thought that make up Buddhism. Some of the stories after the mid-point of the book about all the politics of men seemed a bit "one too many' -- perhaps forming the basis of other reviewers critiques that the author ran out of interesting things to say.

In this case, it seems the author is passionately attached to the importance of these stories -- and definitely could have done a bit more editing down to turn some of the tales into boxed sidebars. There's a lot of discussion of politics between the Buddhist leaders and factions -- some of it seemed a bit much and silly to me (but people were willing to kill over the right to worship a deity, for example).

I want to acknowledge that the meditation and mindfulness are important -- as thousands of current books on emotional intelligence, leadership and management insist. However, meditation and mindfulness practice cannot stand alone without having a genuine interest in others and expanding that awareness to the commonality with others around us.

Whether you are adhering to the 4 Noble Truths and the 8 Paths or some other similar structure -- simply meditating to clear your mind and being mindful of the world around you is akin to navel gazing. You must engage with the world around you and pay attention -- and it is this underlying recommendation toward activism that I appreciate most about the author's perspective.

Like the author, I have no interest in building up my record as pious so that I can have a good afterlife. I haven't had much evidence such a thing exists -- and if I can do good while I am living now, that should be credential enough.

I like his definition of atheism vs "anti-theism" -- I have been informed by people that atheism is a religion, but for me -- I just don't think about any specific deities. That's like claiming that the static you at a point on the tv or radio spectrum as a "station" when there's no broadcast.

Two things bother me about the research and the discussion around Buddhism. First -- the Pali text was written/transcribed from oral tradition about 400 years after Buddha died. The author spent a lot of time trying to find the authentic voice of Buddha -- cutting out bits that seemed to come from other traditions or sources. But - how do we even know that is close to accurate? We're talking about oral tradition -- while Ananda must have had a hell of a memory (apparently he was one of the memorizers), who were the others sitting at Buddha's feet to accurately mentally record his discussions word-for-word to pass them down (and how did they do that and to whom)?

While we're at it -- this is nearly entirely a discussion of MEN. True - there are a few women here and there, but even the author's life sounds like a largely male-oriented world. He mentions his mother, his wife, the "moon-faced Korean" women he encounters on a tour, the wife of the wealthy king and the nun who lay down her robes after losing a discussion following Buddha's death about who was the stronger apostle (Ananda or Kassapa).

Fortunately - the use of this framework is not gender specific. I like the concepts of accepting that we will suffer (that's our nature - happiness doesn't last), learning to appreciate the moment and accept that it is all finite/fallible, and don't take things for granted -- test them and observe them on your own.

Key to all of this is the concept that "Mindful awareness is not presented as a passive concentration on a single, steady object, but as a refined engagement with a shifting, complex world." This allows you to make choices based on curiosity not just reacting based on instinct or emotion. The "middle path" is one that doesn't swing to far to the asceticism or to the bacchanalian.

In sum, he says "Buddhism has become for me a philosophy of action and responsibility. It provides a framework of values, ideas, and practices that nurture my ability to create a path in life, to define myself as a person, to act, to take risks, to imagine things differently, to make art." (less)
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Aug 22, 2013Suzanne rated it it was ok
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I'd give Part One, the autobiographical section, a four; my only criticism is that it is too short and lacks detail. Part Two, however, merits at most a two. It is the bulk of the work, and should really be called "In Search of the Historic Buddha." Other reviews have commented that they are not historians and so don't feel that they can judge. I, on the other hand, am an historian, and can and do judge it. This is not a work of history; it is, at best, a speculative work. It is a work written by someone who, while rejecting the supernatural origins of his religious belief, still wants historical authority for what he does believe.

His only source is the Pali canon, which is not a reliable, authentic, or valid historical source. I looked in vain for any objective evidence that there even was such a person as Siddhartha Gautama. His method is completely invalid; he decides a priori what the Buddha's authentic voice would have been, goes looking for it, and finds it. He dismisses any account that does not meet his preconceptions for no other reason than that it does not meet his preconceptions.

He also lacks an adequate understanding of the historical context. For instance, he goes to great lengths to speculate about why Gautama did not have a son until he was nearly 30, yet it never occurs to him that Gautama may have had daughters before that. The text, as he quotes it, says "a son," not "a child." And historically, it is not unlikely that daughters would not have been noted.

I haven't finished it, and doubt that I will. I find it a pointless exercise. Why does it matter whether the Buddha was an historic figure, and if so, exactly what his personality and biography were? Like Jesus, like King Arthur, like any number of saints and martyrs, there probably was a man around whom these legends and myths accrued and to whom these sayings were attributed. If I'm interested in anything in this area, it is in the history of the accumulation of those legends and myths and what they tell us about the societies and cultures that created them, and ultimately what they tell us about the human condition.

We live in a free society in a free age. Extract from those teachings and practices what works for you. There is no need to attempt to justify it by recreating a historical authority. Have the strength and courage of your convictions. (less)
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Jul 16, 2012David Teachout rated it it was amazing · review of another edition
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There are some reviews describing the book as a meandering and sometimes confusing foray into Buddhism and quote the author in his confession of taking on projects in an erstwhile and haphazard fashion. I won't go against the author in his self-description but I will note that the result is neither confusing nor meandering, if anything it achieves exactly what it declares itself to be, a journey of confession where searching for the man behind the myth, the Gotama behind the Buddha, becomes an ever-present shadow stemming from Batchelor's own life. The honesty and humility consistently exhibited here, combined with a deeply personal and committed understanding of the Buddhist experience and doctrine, is refreshing and deeply spiritual. There is never a sense in which the author fails to get to his point, any more than life is ever a failure for continuing. To dwell in the dhamma, to tread peacefully within the truth of uncertainty and take on the mentality of impermanence, this is precisely what is accomplished here and it is a journey that was a joy to walk with the author on. (less)
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Sep 22, 2011Frank Jude rated it it was amazing
Recommends it for: Open-minded people.
Shelves: memoirs, cultural-history, buddhism, philosophy, skepticism
This is simply a wonderful book! The reaction to it from the more 'conservative' Buddhists (like B. Allan Wallace, from the Tibetan Buddhist tradition, and others from the Theravada) is all the evidence one would need to prove Batchelor's point: there are all too many Buddhists who praise the Buddha and the Buddhist traditions for it's rationality and critical questioning, but keep their questioning from reflecting back on the tradition. For such people, it's as though their understanding of what the Buddha is alleged to have taught is the limit of their imagination and curiosity!

And so, countless Buddhist teachers 'tow the party line,' repeating -- regurgitating -- pat formulas, including the dogma that what they are teaching is not dogma! And Batchelor speaks from his experience, and from his understanding and places all his cards on the table. He evidences more humility than many of his critics, and says up front that he is constructing an understanding of the Buddha that speaks to him -- and to those of us with a more secular temperament.

Such a 'secular religion' (and though Batchelor shies away from this term as a 'contradiction in terms -- which is just why I utilize it!) speaks to many today who reject the claustrophobic atmosphere of much religion, and will continue to do so as 'non-believers,' at least according to many recent polls, is the group growing at the fastest pace in the US. (less)
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May 15, 2010Michelle rated it really liked it · review of another edition
Shelves: non-fiction, buddhism, memoir, religion
While this book was a bit scattered, it was well worth reading.
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Jul 10, 2011Lori rated it really liked it
Shelves: have-it, non-fiction
This is the first Stephen Batchelor book I have read, and it definitely won't be the last. It's exactly what I was looking for. The first half of the book describes his own experience as a Buddhist monk primarily in Tibet and Korea, up until he disrobed. The second half focuses on the Buddha's life and teachings, based on Batchelor's research of the Pali Canon and his own experience in Asia as a lay practitioner.

I think it's safe to say that Batchelor is a representative of Western Buddhism, which can be a controversial subject in and of itself. It was my most concrete introduction to Western Buddhism, of which I apparently associate with the most. I like that he puts some of the Asian cultural influences into context for the Western mind. In the past, I have struggled with some Buddhist concepts because of those cultural differences. Batchelor's teachings of Buddhism resonate with me more than any other author has thus far - it has sparked something within me, and I am now very anxious to get my hands on more of his books. (less)
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2020/04/30

Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas by Elaine Pagels | Goodreads

Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas by Elaine Pagels | Goodreads


Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas

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Pagels, a writer and thinker on religion and history, winner of the National Book Award for The Gnostic Gospels, reflects on what matters most about spiritual and religious exploration in the 21st century. This book explores how Christianity began by tracing its earliest texts, including the Gospel of Thomas, rediscovered in Egypt in 1945.

When her infant son was diagnosed with fatal pulmonary hypertension, Pagels' spiritual and intellectual quest took on a new urgency, leading her to explore historical and archaeological sources and to investigate what Jesus and his teachings meant to his followers before the invention of Christianity. The discovery of the Gospel of Thomas, along with more than 50 other early Christian texts, some unknown since antiquity, offers clues. She compares such sources as Thomas' gospel (which claims to give Jesus' secret teaching and finds its closest affinities with kabbalah) with the canon to show how Christian leaders chose to include some gospels and exclude others from the collection many call the New Testament. To stabilize the emerging church in times of persecution, church fathers constructed the canon, creed and hierarchy - and, in the process, suppressed many of its spiritual resources.

Drawing on new scholarship - her own and that of an international group of scholars - that has come to light since the 1979 publication of The Gnostic Gospels, she shows that what matters about Christianity involves much more than any one set of beliefs. Traditions embodied in Judaism and Christianity can powerfully affect us in heart, mind and spirit, inspire visions of a new society based on practising justice and love, even heal and transform us.

Provocative and moving, Beyond Belief, the most personal of her books to date, shows how the impulse to seek god overflows the narrow banks of a single tradition. She writes, "What I have come to love in the wealth and diversity of our religious traditions - and the communities that sustain them - is that they offer the testimony of innumerable people to spiritual discovery, encouraging us, in Jesus' words, to 'seek, and you shall find.'"

CONTENTS
From the feast of Agape to the Nicene Creed
Gospels in conflict: John and Thomas
God's word or human words?
The canon of truth and the triumph of John
Constantine and the Catholic Church
Acknowledgements
Notes
Index
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Long ago but not so far way I bought this book for my father, who was interested in reading the Gospel of Thomas. I had read an apocryphal Gospel one day while a student, happily nosing around in the reference section - it related how once when Jesus was a boy he was out playing in the street when some bigger boys came along, stamped on his mud pie and laughed at him. Jesus' eyes at this flashed with anger and those bully boys fell dead. Later their parents went round to Joseph and Mary and complained bitterly about Jesus' behaviour. Joseph and Mary gave Jesus a good talking to, after which he raised the boys from the dead and restored them to life.

For various reasons I'm a cautious and wary person, and so was unkeen, unfamiliar as I was with the Gospel of Thomas, to present my father with this kind of material without some kind of explanatory framework no doubt fearing some outbreak of gnosticism in middle England(view spoiler), and so it came to pass after some poking and prodding, that I came across Pagels' book, thought it looked the part, and gave it to the old man. I'm still not sure if he ever read it.

Which plainly was his loss if he didn't because it is a great introduction to the spiritual world of the early church, the one problem with which is that I'm not sure that the Gospel of Thomas as it is presented here on it's own has the weight to sustain her argument.

Pagels frames the story of the quashing of spiritual interpretations of the meaning of the ministry of Jesus (view spoiler) in favour of an Orthodox and Catholic church by the time of Constantine with her experience as a mother living through the death of a son, attending church first in crisis, later with her daughter for a Christmas service. I felt this placed a discussion of religious matters in its proper context: the experience of life, rawness and loss, the openness to community, a sense of loss and a sense of the need for metaphysical meaning. But then again I dreamt last night that I was employed by the British Government to buy and sell warships to African heads of state, so your opinion may well be different (view spoiler).

To do this Pagels assumes that the Gospel of John was written in response to the Gospel of Thomas, my concern here was that she advances no discussion of the possible date of composition for either, but at a pinch, reading, one can assume that the first was written, if not in response to the Gospel we can read at the end of this book ,then in general terms to beliefs that the author of John did not approve of (view spoiler) as evidenced by John's presentation of "doubting" Thomas. Pagels' basic conception is of a dynamic, human, environment, and the various oddities of the Gospel attributed to John lend themselves to supporting that view - in other words John's Gospel is really not much like the three synoptic Gospels which together with John form part of the orthodox canon of the New Testament (view spoiler).

Pagels puts forward to the reader that there were two types of believers in the early church, a distinction that reminded me of Karen Armstrong's A History of God. On the one hand there were those who accepted what they were taught, on the other those who took this as a starting point to seek for themselves after truth. Or perhaps those who believed that at most only Jesus had (at least) some element of divinity in his nature (view spoiler) and those who felt that everyone has sparks of the divine in them - this later was to become an important element in Jewish mystical tradition (view spoiler). Or again that there are two types of conversion experience...the first sees salvation as deliverance from sin and death; the second shows how someone "ignorant of God and of [one's] own nature," and mired in destructive activity, eventually develops a growing awareness of - and need for - relationship with God (p162-3). Pagel cites Heracleon who describes the first group as perceiving God as a strict, limited, but well-meaning master and father, who has decreed the death penalty for every one of his children who sins and yet loves them and grieves when they perish. But they also believe that, apart from Jesus' sacrificial death on the cross, God does not forgive his children; he actually only saves those who 'believe' (p161). The alternative, for Heracleon, and I suspect for Pagels (and for that matter Karen Armstrong) is a conception of God as spiritual nourishment (pp 161-2). The story she tells in her book is that the first won out over the second. The hows and the whys are tempting to speculate about, but we don't even know much about the winning side, and what we know about the loosing side almost entirely comes from what the winners choose to say about them.

Almost. Luckily for us in the 1950s, an Egyptian uncovered a stash of writings deemed heretical by Athanasius - repeatedly bishop of Alexandria (view spoiler) in the late fourth century and buried for safe keeping by Nag Hammadi. One of those texts was the Gospel of Thomas. This reads as a stripped down version of the Gospel of Mark. It has no stories, only sayings attributed to Jesus, most of which seem in comparison to the conventional Gospels very familiar. Some are not familiar but similar. A few are a little bit different. Not, I felt, different enough to sustain Pagels' argument, but then I am not a second or third century Bishop striving for order and to contain debate.

Longer years ago I first read Eusebius and Henry Chadwick's The Early Church. Later Geza Vermes' The Changing Faces of Jesus. With each subsequent book I read on faith, on the early Church, I imagine that I am a little like an exploratory spacecraft sent into orbit around a planet to build up velocity so I can fling myself sling-shot style further out in search of understanding. In orbit one rotates round and round the same material, but sees it from a new angle with each approach.

Slowly I learn the oddness of what had been taught to me in school as plain and uncontroversial.
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Lee Harmon
Sep 24, 2011rated it it was amazing
Pagels is a recognized scholar of religion, and the author of The Gnostic Gospels, among others. This book might be her best.

Don't buy this expecting a dull, scholarly exposition on the Gospel of Thomas. It's hardly that. It's sort of an unobtrusive evangelism for unorthodox Christianity, a plea for the kind of "religious truth" that can never hide behind a stale set of doctrine.

Pagels bares her soul in this book, and her passion for spirituality, religion and Christianity shines. The result is inspirational. This is the book that turned me on to Pagels' scholarship, and I've felt a distant kinship ever since. It's really less about the Gospel of Thomas and more about diversity and meaning within the early Christian movement. John's Gospel actually gets as much attention as the Gospel of Thomas. While John hints of gnostic influence, it also finds itself in direct opposition to Thomas on many topics, such as the divinity of Christ. Pagels embraces this diversity of ideas, and spends a great deal of time discussing how the canon of acceptable scripture grew.

I love engaging, thought-provoking books, and Pagels never disappoints.
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Kathryn
I used this for my MA thesis. It's very smoothly and interestingly written--engaging, really--and contains a great deal of interesting information on the foundations of Christianity and, especially, how early church leaders strove to overpower one another and promote their own view of Jesus. Focus on is the "lost" Gospel of Thomas, part of the Nag Hamadi library--theory is that church leaders who came to power tried to destroy evidence of this report of Jesus' teachings that centered more on Gnostic and mystic spirituality. (Warning: Naturally, this may be off-putting to those who prefer to focus on traditional perspectives of the Bible. However, those interested in exploring various aspects of spiritualty and perceptions of Jesus would probably find it interesting.) (less)
Megan
Mar 25, 2009rated it it was amazing
Elaine is wonderful and I began enjoying her work as a student. I think her book on the Gnostic Gospels in general is intelligent and accessible yet this particular work ( though I stand by my 5 star rating) is, at times, redundant. This is an endlessly fascinating subject for me and I trust Pagels knowledge base and motives. Good book.
David Withun
Jun 10, 2012rated it it was ok
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Mike
May 03, 2010rated it it was amazing
Beyond Belief has been a formative book for me. (This is the third time I’ve read it.) In a nutshell, the New Testament is the end result of a protracted and often bitter media war. Two thousand years ago those arguing for one belief over another used the same techniques of persuasion that we see today. Case in point. Only is the Gospel of John is there a character named Doubting Thomas. Johannine Christians believed very different things than their contemporaries and rivals, the Thomas Christians. One way to assert one’s views over another’s is to demean and caricature the opposition’s most revered figurehead, and that’s what the author of the Gospel of John did when he turned the apostle Thomas into Doubting Thomas. Of course, this is all conjecture, but Elaine Pagels’ scholarship is very convincing, and human nature being what it is, her conclusions make a world of sense to me. (less)
David Elkin
Sep 17, 2017rated it really liked it
Pagels is a well know Gnostic writer and this book is one of her better ones. A nice study of a Gospel not found in the Bible
Erik Graff
Aug 16, 2010rated it really liked it
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During my studies at Union Theological Seminary in New York I became acquainted with Elaine Pagels, initially on a social level as one of my girlfriend's favorite teachers at Barnard College, then as my own teacher for a course entitled "Creation Myths in Genesis" at Union. I wasn't much interested in the course topic, but I was interested in working under the author of The Johannine Gospel in Gnostic Exegesis, a book which had impressed me while working on my undergraduate thesis on the history of scholarly debate about the origins of "gnostic" movements. As it happened, she was considerate enough to allow me to supplement the course work with a review of all of the patristic testamony through the fourth century and an encyclopedic thesis covering this material entitled "On the Procession of the Heresiarchs of Gnosis." Since then I have endeavored to read all of her books as they became available.

This particular title followed upon the deaths of her son, Mark (1987) and--unmentioned in it--husband, Heinz (1988). At the time I was acquainted with her and Heinz, neither seemed particularly religious, but as the text indicates, these losses caused her to reconsider her position. Such personal reflections introduce the text.

Three main topics come up repeatedly in Beyond Belief. First, The Gospel of Thomas, a version of which was discovered in Egypt in 1945. A collection of the sayings of Jesus, some have attempted to relate it to the long hypothesized Q, or "source", behind the canonical gospel sayings. Pagels does not push this thesis. Instead, she takes this and, to a lesser extent, other extra-canonical gospels to represent the actual diversity of early Christian belief and practice, a diversity suppressed by the affiliation of one section of the movement with the Powers and Principalities of Rome. Second, she employs Irenaeus, and most particularly his Adversus Haeresis, as an early example (c. 180) of the repressive ideology which won out. Having studied him myself rather intensively, I would only fault her for failing to emphasize how personal much of his invective is and for failing to note the irony of some this supposedly orthodox Father of the Church's own beliefs, most particularly his claim that Jesus lived to a ripe old age. Third, she discusses the original imperially-sponsored Council of the Church (325)which capped the early stage of ideological repression. With this, and with some brief review of the Arian controversy associated with the Council and its consequences, her overview ends.

Pagels' thesis that the early church was diverse and that the concretization of an orthodoxy under the Empire led to the suppression of many elements, particularly those maintaining a more democratic, or "low", Christology, is incontestable. She doesn't go far, however, in expositing what these other streams of thought actually maintained. Instead, she alludes, mostly by quotation, to some characteristic positions later rejected by the Church. The most important of these would seem to be, first, that what the Christ was we can be and, second, that there are many paths to such realization. In other words, what the official Church tried to stamp out was experientially-based religion--precisely, though not explicitly stated, what led her to reconsider her own beliefs.

This book was written for the general public. No specialized knowledge is required, the documentation being confined to endnotes, beyond a general familiarity with the Christian tradition.
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Mark
Jan 28, 2009rated it liked it
The book compares the outlook of the apostle Thomas with the writings that became the book of John. His outlook is that God is within all of us and Jesus told us to find the way to heaven. Even that all people have the spirit of God within us and need to come to Gnosis ( a mutual knowing or understanding of one another with God) through meditation, introspection and study. My main complaint is that very little of the book actually discusses what Thomas' teachings are. Mostly, the book focuses on how his teachings were repressed in favor of John in the creating of the canon of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. First Pagels focuses on Irenaeus who pushes for a 'four-formed' canon in the 2nd century, then she focuses a large part of the book on Roman Emporer Constantinus' conversion and acceptance of Christianity, his patronage, and his organization of bishops to create the Nicene Crede, which is still the basis for ecclesiatical books included as orthodox Christian teachings and the basis for most subsequent versions of the bible. She makes MANY references to the books of Nag Hammadi, which were the basis for her book The Gnostic Gospels.

I find her writing to be interesting, although with sheer amount of dates and names, it can be a bit dry. It is educational to read about how the teachings of Christ were captured and synthesized into what has become the Catholic Church. She follows many of the political and ideological controversies of the first few centuries after Christ's life.
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Randy White
While I enjoyed "Beyond Belief", both the content and Dr. Pagels's writing style, I was somewhat disappointed in the lack of analysis of the Gospel of Thomas. Dr. Pagels presents decent analysis of the Gnostic movement, and places the Gospel of John within the Gnostic context, yet fails to deliver much on the Gospel of Thomas. I enjoyed her personal story and how she believes that there is more than one way to discover God, but again this book is supposed to be about the Gospel of Thomas (or so I assumed from the title). Finally, her analysis of the role of Constantine in enshrining orthodox Christianity as the religion of the late Roman Empire is cursory. She gives Constantine a pass, without noting the real role he played, the fact that as he lay dying he was baptized by an Arian bishop and not an orthodox bishop, and that the shields of his soldiers during THE pivotal battle to become Emperor may have borne the Cross on one side but ALSO bore the symbol of the Sun god on the other as he was hedging his bets. All in all a good read, but rather "light and fluffy" when it comes to the stated material it would supposedly deal with (yes, I end sentences with preposition). (less)
John Martindale
Dec 05, 2018rated it liked it
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This book hardly touches on the Gospel of Thomas. I read the Gospel of Thomas before coming to this book, and I was hoping for some scholarly reflections, but I got very little.

She briefly comments on a handful of saying such as:
Jesus said, "That which you have will save you if you bring it forth from yourselves. That which you do not have within you will kill you if you do not have it within you." It seems this is the passage that resonated most with Pagels, having rejected traditional Christianity, this passag is right up her ally.

She points out the following passage as something Gnostics may have used to identify themselves.
Jesus said, "If they say to you, 'Where did you come from?', say to them, 'We came from the light, the place where the light came into being on its own accord and established itself and became manifest through their image.' If they say to you, 'Is it you?', say, 'We are its children, we are the elect of the living father.' If they ask you, 'What is the sign of your father in you?', say to them, '.
Pagel's think maybe some of the Gospel of John was written in opposition to this.

Pagel mentions nothing concerning the bizarreness found in Thomas like the following:
Simon Peter said to him, "Let Mary leave us, for women are not worthy of life."
Jesus said, "I myself shall lead her in order to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who will make herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."
Not any mention of weirdness like: Jesus said, "Blessed is the lion which becomes man when consumed by man; and cursed is the man whom the lion consumes, and the lion becomes man."

But yeah, she presents the Gospel of Thomas evidence that there were these Christians who believed we could find the truth within ourselves, that everyone came from the light was was created in God's image and had access to the truth within themselves, if we only seek it. While the gospel of John on the other hand, mentions people are in darkness, and turn from the light, cannot find the truth and only Jesus reveals the truth to the elect. Pagels seems to be attempting to say there was a better form of Christianity that was destroyed by the dogmatic catholics, which is what most of the book is about. But eventually while writing about Irenaeus and his "Against Heresies", pointed out that Irenaeus was actually rather inclusive as he tried to define catholicity and outline spectrum of "orthodoxy", the reason he was so hateful towards the Gnostics, was their stuck up attitude, their walking around like they were the enlightened people, and dismissing and brushing off the enlightened who just couldn't get it, or couldn't the truth. But yeah, Pagel's seem to suggest Irenaeus depictions here was accurate, and this may be in part why he turned against them so strongly, throwing every vindictive and hateful epithet their direction. If this is the case, it seems to go against just how wonderful these gnostic Christians were. Looks like both ends of the power struggle had their share of nastiness. 
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Lisa Louie
Oct 01, 2008rated it really liked it
While I'm a little disappointed that Beyond Belief is not the book I was hoping it would be, the book's argument builds steadily to a satisfying plateau of understanding, namely that the social and political upheaval that dominated the first two centuries after Jesus' life and death motivated the likes of church father Irenaeus to unify the church under one set of beliefs and practice, and simultaneously to squelch the diversity of beliefs about God and Jesus that abounded in the early church....more
Heather Shaw
May 09, 2012rated it liked it
Recommends it for: practicing or disaffected Christians, anyone interested in the origins of Christian doctrine
You don't have to agree with everything Elaine Pagels says to love her. This book combines scholarly research with a personal vulnerability that is very disarming, and I found myself engaged with the book on a personal level that I did not expect.

That said, I was troubled by Pagels' tendency to equate mysticism and gnosticism, and I think this is problematic to her argument. I would loosely define mysticism as a belief in man's capacity to commune with God on a personal level, to recognize God within himself and to become one with God. Gnosticism is a very specific belief system that contains mystical elements, but which was declared heretical by Irenaeus in the second century.

Pagels' argues that the Gospel of John was likely written to refute the so-called gnostic gospel of Thomas, and that Irenaeus championed the Gospel of John and the Nicene Creed (which draws freely from John's gospel) to establish the divinity of Christ as the central doctrine of Christianity, which in turn would rid the church of pesky gnostic sects. The New Testament canon, along with the Nicene Creed, effectively excluded all mysticism from the catholic (lowercase) church, while instituting a Catholic (uppercase) doctrine of atonement and original sin. Here's the rub: Pagels seems to equate the acceptance of Christ's divinity with a denial of mysticism. We are separated from God by original sin, therefore we cannot have access to God without a mediator (Christ).

What bothers me is that Pagels creates this false dichotomy between orthodox doctrine and christian mysticism, without any mention of how these traditions intersect and complement each other within the orthodox faith. I am no scholar, nor am I well-educated on the finer points of Orthodox doctrine, but I do know that the Orthodox Church does not hold a doctrine of atonement or original sin (in the same sense as the Roman Catholic church), but does promote the concept of theosis, a mystical journey wherein man is ultimately joined to God, becoming divine by grace. Pagels oversimplifies her argument by excluding any mention of these points, which present a rather compelling gray area between the gnostic sects and modern Christianity (with it's focus on man's separation from God).

I enjoyed reading the book, overall, but found myself more interested in what Pagels leaves out, and why...
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Charlotte
Apr 06, 2011rated it liked it
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This book was used as a study book for a Tuesday morning discussion group. While it's subtitle is the Secret Gospel of Thomas (and the text of the complete Gospel of Thomas is printed in the back, we found it to be more of a history of the development of the early Christian Church. In 1945 a stone jar was found at Nag Hammadi in upper Egypt containing other writings from the beginning of the Christian era. These texts had been hidden when they had been ordered to be destroyed. Elaine Pagels stepped inside a church during a morning run, and found herself drawn to the spiritual power she felt there. This began a search for her in determining at what point the church moved from the strong spiritual base in its early years to one of creeds and statements of beliefs. (She also now sees now a swing back to the spiritual base, with less interest in creeds.) Studying early writings helped her see that there was a wide diversity of interpretations in the years following Christ's death, and the creeds and beliefs statement (culminating in the canonization of the books to appear in the Bible during the time of Constantine) were a desperate effort to protect the "true faith" from the many groups with what seemed like strange and dangerous interpretations. Much of the book is history. Pagels sees that harm sometimes results from unquestioning acceptance of religious authority. Her final words are, "What I have come to love in the wealth of our religious traditions--and the communities that sustain them--is that they offer the testimony of innumerable peopleto spiritual discovery. Thus they encourage those who endeavor, in Jesus words, to "seek, and you shall find."(less)
Chip
Oct 06, 2010rated it really liked it
Yes, there is a discussion of the Gospel of Thomas; yes, there is a little about the author's struggle to find her own faith; there's even a compact overview of the first millenium of Christianity. What this book is concerned with mostly is the internecine war for dominance between the proponents of the Gospel of John and the proponents of every other Gospel. This book dissects and examines the history of that war and demonstrates how the results of this war shaped, and continues to shape, the Christian world today. The rest mentioned previously is the gilding on the frame; the meat of this book is the incisive examination of the winners (the Orthodoxy) and the losers (the Gnostics). Very well done and a compelling read. (less)
jcg
Mar 25, 2009rated it really liked it
I thought the book was going to be about the Gospel of Thomas, but it is really an overview of early Christianity tied in with Elaine Pagels personal search for something to make sense of the world.

Written in plain language, it covers a lot of territory and shows how the beliefs of some groups were crowded out of orthodox Christianity. As always, the most ruthless win.

The main investigation of the book is how to tell the difference between divinely inspired texts and those that are human imagination.

She doesn't touch on the work of scholars who believe that the Gospel of John was originally written more sypathetically to the Gospel of Thomas, but that a later Redactor added the opening chapters and inserted additional material to change the perspective to refute Thomas.
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Eleanor
Oct 21, 2019rated it liked it
This was interesting, though I was disappointed that it was not more about the Gospel of Thomas specifically, as the title indicated, but was more generally about the strife within the early Christian church/es as to which "version" should prevail.
Jason
Nov 06, 2007rated it liked it
First and foremost I think Elaine Pagels writes nicely. She gives her work a nice tone and it flows easily. This book itself seems to contrast an apparently ancient work, the Gospel of Thomas, to one of the main works in the Four Formed Gospel, John. The Gospel of Thomas was discovered with some other works hid away in a field in the town of Nag Hammadi in upper Egypt. Apparently these works which oppose orthodox Christianity were hid there to preserve them from being destroyed. Pagels herself was apparently disillusioned with orthodox Christianity at an early age and asked herself 'how could people with different beliefs be condemned to hell?' Therefore, she has found great comfort in works like the Gospel of Thomas which seem to say the Truth of God can be found within as opposed to John which says Jesus is the way to the Truth etc. The Gospel of Thomas has a bit of similarity with Buddhist thought (especially Zen) which emphasizes looking to oneself for ultimate answers and also the idea that we only lose perfection through not realizing our Buddha natures. For these reasons this book is actually an interesting read but I can't give it a high rating because I find it fanciful to say the least. There is a reason John was included in the gospels of the new testament by the early Christians. I don't believe like Pagels does that John was written perhaps to refute the more heretic book of Thomas. Secondly, John seems to have much in common with the synoptic gospels even though Pagels proclaims it doesn't. If you do a thorough check of the information you will see for yourself. I simply cannot believe that for nearly two thousand years we've all been duped about how Christianity should have been. I have no doubts that Pagels has some merit of scholarship but I do not feel she's above and beyond the many scholars who have looked and written about this issue extensively. To put it simply: Pagels doesn't give any strong proof for us to accept the Gospel of Thomas and also other so-called secret works.

Throughout the book Pagels gives us an account of a man named Irenaeus, the bishop of Lyons, and his struggle to suppress what he viewed as heretical works of the day being put forth.

Later in this book Pagels goes on to give a minor historical account of the Nicene Creed. Of course, this was the time when the orthodox doctrines were agreed upon by most of the Christian leaders and would shape the universal Catholic church in the future. Perhaps distressingly to "true" Christians the concept or idea of the Trinity was solidified here. We are also told about a bishop who held a contrary view, (as did some other Christians at this time) Arius. However, ultimately the emperor Constantine who had been a Christian convert prevailed and we have what constitutes orthodoxy today. My point here being that Pagels did a good job of providing interesting reading. Her minor tracing of history keeps you interested enough to plow ahead. It's a shame the other parts of the book didn't have more support or weight to help make them more convincing. This is what ultimately causes this book to fall short.
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Gail Holm
Apr 25, 2015rated it really liked it
This is the second time I’ve read Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas. Reading it with a group this time deepened my understanding. The words, “Beyond Belief,” have significance in more than one way. I think these words mainly refer to early Christians who chose to embrace rituals, myths and perspectives that didn’t have the stamp of approval of church leaders, such as Irenaeus, who were trying to establish orthodoxy. This phrase can be extended to those people who continue to be seekers today. “Beyond Belief” could also refer to the motives of the orthodox Christian leaders. Beyond getting Christians to accept one immutable story and path to salvation, the orthodox leaders were trying to consolidate the religion in the interest of power and protection from outside forces.
Pagels suggests that the Gospel of John may have been written to refute Thomas’s claims that the light of God shines in everyone and that individuals may seek God. John proposed that Jesus IS God and that believing in Jesus is the only thing that matters. I’m puzzled, however, that The Secret Gospel of Thomas was chosen as the subtitle. Pagels discusses other non-canonical gospels that also incurred the wrath of the orthodox leaders. In addition, the content of the book is woven from many strands. To me, it isn’t primarily about The Gospel of Thomas.
Ireneas and others established a mandatory set of beliefs for Christians thereby consolidating the church and establishing the structure that made Christianity’s continued existence possible, but often, strict adherence to orthodoxy has been harmful. Today, many people want to feel free to interpret religious stories and tenets in light of their own experiences…to go “beyond belief.” More and more we go our own ways, away from organized religion. I hope we can save the life-affirming aspects of organized religion without depending on the structure of orthodoxy.
Beyond Belief is a thought-provoking book that will engage readers interested in how Christian beliefs developed and how the church became a power to be reckoned with. Moreover, Pagels insights into the content of Christian works rejected by the orthodoxy may give spiritual validation to those who seek in light of their own experience.
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Janet
Sep 26, 2011rated it liked it
The book compares the gospel of John with the gnostic gospel of Thomas. Both follow a similar timeline - different from Matthew, Mark and Luke. John's emphasis is on communing to God through Jesus Christ. Thomas has more of a Buddhist approach - looking for God inside yourself.

The theological aspects aren't nearly as interesting as the political ones. In compiling the bible, the "editor" (in the form of Bishop Irenaeus of Lyon) was the one who decided which books to include, and which to leave out, and declaring the books left out as blasphemous.

This does not provide the Gospel of Thomas, but at least some of the text is available online, and also in the book covering the 52 text discovered in Egypt in 1945, The Nag Hammadi Scriptures.
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Jane
Sep 29, 2011rated it liked it
Like some of Bart Ehrman's books, Pagels deals extensively with conflicts among early Christian sects and how the Bible ended up being what it is today. The Gospel of Thomas is one among many others that didn't make the cut and we wouldn't know of it today except that it was hidden for 1600 years with other gnostic gospels at Nag Hammadi. There was not as much detail about the Gospel of Thomas as I had expected. Pagels compares it to the Gospel of John which states that belief in Jesus is the only means of salvation. Thomas asserts that there is a spark of divinity in all of us with the implication that there may by more than one road to God. (less)
Carol
May 16, 2009rated it it was amazing
After reading Picoult's Change of Heart, I was given this book as a Mom's Day gift. I enjoyed Pagels' guidance through the debate of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th centuries regarding the life and teachings of Jesus. As a Religion Prof a Princeton, Pagels has studied the debate of those years through not only those gospels included in the Bible but also the hidden 50 books that were not included and that were found in Neg Hammadi in 1945. A fascinating read that is 'healing, good sense, and gives permission to think,imagine and yet believe'. (less)