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Only Don't Know: Selected Teaching Letters of Zen Master Seung Sahn

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Here is the inimitable Zen Master Seung Sahn up close and personal—in selections from the correspondence that was one of his primary modes of teaching. Seung Sahn received hundreds of letters per month, each of which he answered personally, and some of the best of which are included here. His frank and funny style, familiar to readers of Dropping Ashes on the Buddha, is seen here in a most intimate form. The beloved Zen master not only answers questions on Zen teaching and practice, but applies an enlightened approach to problems with work, relationships, suffering, and the teacher-student relationship.


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The Dear Abby of Zen, Seung Sahn must be one the most prolific letter writers in history, not to mention one of the most successful Zen masters. With more than 60 centers on six continents, Seung Sahn has inspired thousands of students to take up Zen practice and has managed the seemingly impossible task of nurturing a genuine monastic Zen tradition on Western soil. Many of these students write him letters with their questions, and he never fails to respond. Only Don't Know is a collection of some of these letter's and Seung Sahn's replies, the title being an abbreviation of his cryptic refrain, "If you don't know, only go straight--don't know." The inquirers range from beginners wanting to know what to expect of enlightenment to monastics seeking direction on their path. A man who works in a windowless office, a woman preparing for a chanting retreat, a professor of religion--the writers and the topics come from all corners, Seung Sahn cajoling, versifying, ranting, or telling stories as the situation requires. He even resorts to drawing, as demonstrated in a series of pictorial correspondence that is a priceless example of wordless communication. --Brian Bruya

About the Author

Zen Master Seung Sahn (1927–2004) was the first teacher to bring Korean Zen Buddhism to America, having already established temples in Japan and Hong Kong. In 1972 he came to the United States and started what became the Providence Zen Center, the first center in what is now the Kwan Um School of Zen, which now includes more than eighty centers and groups worldwide. His students called him Dae Soen Sa Nim, "Great Honored Zen Teacher," and he was the 78th Zen master in his line of dharma transmission in the Chogye order of Korean Buddhism. His books include The Compass of ZenDropping Ashes on the BuddhaOnly Don't Know, and The Whole World Is a Single Flower: 365 Kong-ans for Everyday Life.




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May 7, 2011
When asked about books influencing my life, Only Don't Know places at the top of the list. The writing is simple and direct on matters of love, suffering, and happiness.

The book was recommended by a colleague in the community of finance. The man appeared genuinely moved by the positive effect the book had on him, including his relationships with his wife and children. Still questioning the relevance of a Korean Zen master's writings to my life, I looked it up on Amazon to discover a number of positive reviews. So I decided to give it a try.

The book is a collection of letters to and from Seung Sahn—some from Zen practitioners, others not. A few are serious, others are funny. "I am a teacher and these kids are driving me crazy..."

What is particularly striking is how consistent Seung Sahn is in responding. This is a man clearly in touch with his purpose or calling. That alone makes the book worth a read. But there's more to offer. In each letter you discover a small piece of yourself asking a question. And more often than not, Seung Sahn's response provides practical advice, how to relate to the issue in a more positive way.

Admittedly, the advice is based on Zen practice, but it is not dogmatic—really, humanistic in nature. But if you can't separate the origin from the the advice, then consider adapting it to your brand of belief. The advice has value whatever your faith.

A few themes from the book for flavor:

1. Only Don't Know - Originally, there is not good and bad. But if you make good and bad in your mind, they you have good and bad... Before checking (filtering based on your biases and prejudices) is called go-straight mind - there is no problem. After checking, then feelings, I-my-me, and problems appear. A clear mind has no I-my-me.... If you keep clear mind, you will get happiness everywhere.

2. Love - If you cut off all thinking and keep this in mind: "How can I help?" the correct action will appear... That is great love.

3. Wisdom - Good and bad are our true teachers. If something has no opposite, then it has no meaning, no truth... Wisdom and practice are like two wheels of one cart.

***

Inspired by Only Don't Know, I read others by Seung Sahn, but cannot give them the same recommendation. The Compass of Zen is a dense guide to Buddhism and Dropping Ashes on the Buddha is a lesser work of teachings and letters. This is the one to read.

Hope this review helps you.
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January 24, 2017
I've become a fan of the late Seung Sahn after reading his "The Compass of Zen." "Only Don't Know" is a compilation of letters to and from his students and associates over the years. It is an enjoyable book, but it will make little sense if you haven't read "The Compass of Zen" first. Master Sahn's style of Zen teaching was straightforward and entertaining, often amusing, and easier to understand than many of the other Zen books out there. "Only Don't Know" is definitely worth a read, but I think you'll be disappointed and perhaps a little confused if you haven't first digested some of his other works.
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January 7, 2012
To be perfectly honest, I liked this book better than "Dropping Ashes on the Buddha". Seung Sahn really comes through in this book. You would think that a book of letters wouldn't be that interesting but quite the contrary. Seung Sahn talks to many different people from all parts of the globe concerning a variety of interesting topics. He touches on many important facts regarding ZEN, Buddhism and life's everyday challenges, questions etc. It's fascinating how these little stories tie into the big picture of what we call LIFE. Every chapter stands on its own and adds something very special to the entirety of this publication. I would still recommend reading `Dropping Ashes'. I have also purchased "Wanting Enlightenment Is a Big Mistake" which will be read shortly; review to follow...

Please Note: all material is very understandable (well at least for the subject of ZEN anyway. Naturally I'm not getting into the debate of how ZEN can't be explained and so forth. Bottom line - the material and the way it's presented is very simplified and highly appreciated for its clarity and fluidity).

Anyone who reads my reviews knows I like to add a personal touch! So, with that said, one of my personal notes that I wrote after a chapter goes as follow: You must completely rid yourself of all ideas, thoughts, attachments, and situations. Clear out all things and JUST BE. If you keep correct mind - then you can do anything. Most importantly, you need to believe in you. Believe that you are all you need to be successful in whatever you do. When you are doing something - DO IT !!! If you truly ARE your activity 100%, naturally your chances of success are much higher. You can succeed at anything however; you must be clear like space and become one with what you're doing - moment to moment...

There are books that you read one time and then pass it down to a friend. Then, once in a while, there's a book that comes along like this. I would like to say thank you for everyone who was involved in bringing this wonderful collection of letters to light. It will indubitably be reread again in the future...
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August 12, 2015
This book is almost like having a Zen teacher as my pen pal. I have been unable to attend my twelve-year teacher's Zendo and I don't like to bother him with emails. Seung Sahn Roshi's letters are timeless and as wonderfully random and accidental as only a master's words can always be. I also recommend "Zen Sand" for the same use. Words of a teacher are not for memorizing. They are for kicking students off their current comfortable perch. A good teacher is best to keep one from wearing a rut in the pathless way, but these books are also effective. Don't check. Just go straight ahead.
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February 16, 2016
This is an amazing story from a person who has had so many experiences and has an understanding of consciousness that is very helpful. I am really happy that I purchased this. I read a lot of material on human potential. This is a great addition to my "library". I have added to my understanding from this book.
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September 5, 2017
f you're interested in Zen, this book might provide some insight. The author, a Korean Zen monk, answers letters from American buddhists seeking his wisdom. It's funny at times and insightful at times. Though I'm not a Buddhist, I love Seung Sahn's take on life.
December 28, 2013
Seung Sahn has a clear teaching. He is not so mysterious and evasive as many Zen teachers. This book and the Compass of Zen are some of the very best Zen books available in English.
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November 1, 2011
"Dropping Ashes on the Buddha" was a much better book in my opinion and explained his teachings better. Still, the book is not bad and was fun to read
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August 24, 2012
Very good book for a glimpse into intimate zen. Interesting insight into interaction with students. Touching, humorous, and mostly direct.

What Do Quakers Believe About God?



What Do Quakers Believe About God?




What Do Quakers Believe About God?

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What is God? We asked 20 Quakers, here’s what they said.

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Paula Palmer: I do have a sense that all living things are in some mysterious way connected; that life itself is such a miracle. I want to feel that connection, acknowledge that connection, be conscious of it, be appreciative of it, cherish it, share it, and not define it.

What Do Quakers Believe About God?

Patricia McBee: I have a lifelong experience of hearing something speak to me and guide me. I can’t reconcile my belief in an abstract sense of God and this sense of guidance, so I have this big, rich, dizzyingly awe-inspiring abstract God and this very close presence that I can turn to and will speak to me.

A God That Transcends Understanding

Kenyatta James: My concept of God is everything that we can know but not understand. That there’s a lot in this world that we might be able to know but we don’t really understand or that we can’t replicate . For me, that energy, that power is what God is.

Jim Rose: Christ, Jesus says, “The kingdom of God is within you.” That is what Quakers are convinced of and I’m convinced of, is that our journey is a journey inward. Whether you call it God, the divine, the light, there is something to be found there and it’s something that is–I don’t want to call it irrational, but the rational mind cannot cope with these things that are inexpressable, ineffable. The definition of God is not something that the rational mind can grasp. What can grasp that is only the heart.

God As an Experience

Laura Boles: God is an experience to me, it is not a belief or a concept and so I am looking to experience God in my daily life and allow myself to be a vessel for others to experience God through me. And you know when you feel it. You know when you feel it. You know when your greatest gifts as a person, as an individual are shining to their highest capacity.

Kevin-Douglass Olive: As someone once told me if I can understand God, if I can conceptualize God in God’s fullest, then that is not a God that can transform my life and bring me out of any dark night, of any hurt, habit, or hang-up.

John Moorman: The almighty being, whether it’s he or she or what that was there at creation, was there before creation. I don’t pretend to understand it but it is there. I will be seeking it until the day I die. I won’t know the answer, but I know the presence is there.

Ruth Montague: I think life is very whimsical. I think my brain isn’t really wired to really understand everything that might be or is going on and I’m okay with that. It sounds funny, but I love the word “whimsy” I think it describes… I mean, isn’t it crazy that we get to have this experience? I mean, wow. Here we are. Hm.

The Limitations of Language

Amy Kietzman: I use the word, “God” because it’s the currency, because it’s the word we use in our culture. But for many years when I write the word “God,” I write G-!-D because first of all, “God” is not God’s name. We pretend that that is the name of something, but it really… we don’t know what it is. And it’s important not to know, or not to try to know too much because it’s more about that we’re experiencing something and we have to communicate about it, so we have to have words.

Elaine Emily: I think by definition if I could define God then it wouldn’t be God because it is so much beyond whatever concept we have, but it’s a language. It’s a way to talk about these deep, important pieces of our lives. We have to start somewhere, it’s all metaphor. There’s not words for what we really know and want to communicate.

Mark Wutka: If what I think is “of God” in my heart, if someone else feels that same thing and obeys that same thing but calls it something different, maybe even calls it the subconscious, that’s not really for me to judge.

God As Love

Laura Kinnel: When I use the word God I think the closest thing I mean to what people who don’t use the word God might often understand is “love.” I think of love as something that we all know exists. Everybody believes that love exists. We’ve seen love in action. We’ve felt what it feels like to love and be loved. We’ve seen what acting in accordance with what we think love requires of us looks like.

Carter Nash: So I think of “that of God in everyone” as that of love in everyone, and so I try to relate to everyone with love. Amongst Friends, amongst Quakers, I have found that is what they do with me. They relate to me with love.

That of God in Everyone

A.J. Mendoza: There is that of God in every person. There is a fundamental equality to our faith and practice that informs everything. It informs our peace testimony. It informs how we talk to each other, as not using honorific terms, that we’re talking to each other on an equal level.

Jane Fernandes: I believe that Quakers see that of God in every person. I think that’s fundamental, and when you see that of God in everyone–that’s every one–that changes everything.

Equal Access to God

Ingrid Lakey: As a Quaker I believe that we all have access to the divine, that spirit is available to us, there is God in everyone including me, and that we don’t need an intermediary to be in contact with the divine, the divine is always with us.

Valerie Brown: God is available. When I say “God” I mean the energy of love and compassion, the absolute acceptance of all people, not a father-figure sitting on a white cloud with a long beard. That may be some people’s idea of God and that’s ok, that’s not mine.

A.J. Mendoza: That informs that there’s an equality in the meetings. God could speak through the person who has been in Meeting since they were born and is now 85, the person who just happened to walk into the meeting, didn’t really know what they were doing that Sunday morning has equal access.

Laura Goren: That it is not only men or not only people with certain educations or certain positions that can access truth, but that everyone can do that provided we try.

Listening to God

Carter Nash: When we’re gathered in silence, we are opening ourselves–we do what we call “centering down” and that is opening ourselves up to allow the spirit of God to fully take over us and if that spirit leads us to speak, then we will deliver a message.

Kri Burkander: My Mom used to sing this song about –it’s some country song I guess–about “turn the radio on, turn the dial, get right with God.” And I’m totally paraphrasing, and I should actually get the name of the song because I don’t know what the song is, but it was this idea that God’s always on the radio, you just have to tune to the right station. I really value the time in worship to turn my radio station to God. This is the time I’ve carved out of my week to sit down and just hang out with God.

Kevin-Douglas Olive: And so whether it’s the early Quakers or Evangelical Quakers or Liberal Quakers, we have a sense of a power greater than ourselves that restores us, that guides us, that brings us together, and when we come together in that reality and we seek to be humble in that reality, we find ourselves connected in an intimate way.

Eric Baker: What is that thing that challenges us to see the value in everyone else, to be people of peace in really challenging times, to be people of integrity when there are so many other voices saying, “no, you don’t have to do that.” That thing that’s moving us in that direction towards peace, towards integrity, toward real community, toward treating people with equal standards, that everyone has the light of God in them, that’s the spirit of God moving us in that direction.
Discussion Questions:
What comes to mind when you hear the word “God”? (Is it useful in your spiritual vocabulary? Why or why not?)
How has your concept of God affected your spiritual life and practice? What do you do to nurture your relationship with God?

The views expressed in this video are of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views of Friends Journal or its collaborators.
QUAKER THEOLOGY AND BELIEFS

Comments5
Marcelle Martin
06/27/2019 AT 5:12 PM

City & State
Chester, PA
What a beautiful video. It’s wonderful to see and hear so many different Friends speak about their experience and understanding of God.
jules
06/27/2019 AT 6:21 PM

City & State
Northwood
Some very interesting people I’ve met…
……..say that they believe “in GOD” as long as you spell the word with two O’s.
Paul S Riley
06/27/2019 AT 6:52 PM

City & State
Philadelphia
Paul Riley Jim Rose did an impressive presentation about God and the World. the closer we get to the Word of God the more the Holy Spirit is able to breath the Light within into our souls it will lead us to the Life unending to that far shore.
dorothy RICHARDS
06/27/2019 AT 9:06 PM

City & State
colonie
I and the divine spirit are one. The roots are dug firmly in the soil of my soul. We are one.
Shirley Kirkwood
06/27/2019 AT 9:11 PM

City & State
Bridgewater
I have learned to use energy work and suggest that the editors of this magazine search the internet for Healing Beyond Boundaries and other energy work sites and perhaps write an article for the magazine about energy work. It is truly an eye opening way of understanding “that of God in everyone.” And in all living plants and animals. You will be happy to learn about energy work.
Shirley Kirkwood, Valley Friends Meeting, Dayton, VA

영화 「알라딘」을 보고 왔다. 전혀 예상하지 못했는데, 이 영화는 영성에 대한... - ShinGang Gyu Hwan





(5) 영화 「알라딘」을 보고 왔다. 전혀 예상하지 못했는데, 이 영화는 영성에 대한... - ShinGang Gyu Hwan









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영화 「알라딘」을 보고 왔다.



전혀 예상하지 못했는데,

이 영화는 영성에 대한 이야기임을, 사막 위로 구출된 알라딘이 지니와 얘기 나누는 장면에서부터 알 수 있었다.



"나는 겉모습만 바꾸는거야"

"소원은 구체적으로 말해야 해. 디테일이 중요해"

"너의 소원이 무엇이든! 가능해. 단, 누군가가 널 사랑하게 만든다던지 죽은 자를 살린다던지 이런건 안돼"



지니는 '상위자아'다.

내 안에 있는 진짜 '나'이다.

참나라고도 부르는

내 안의 경이로운 이가

바로, '지니'다.



그리고 알라딘은 '겉자아'이다.

물리적으로 드러난 현 시점의 모습, 영원하지 않고 한상 변하는 한 시점의 분명한 상태.

마음 먹은대로 무엇이든 될 수 있다. 하지만 내면이 변하지 않으면 금방 무너진다. 바뀌어버린다.



정말 그것을 소원으로 빌 때, 간절하게 빌 때, 구체적으로 염원할 때, 그것이 눈에 띄게 현실로 드러나는데 이 기도의 상징이 바로 '램프'이고 이 기도를 통해 만나는 것이 내 안의 진짜 나, '상위자아'이다.



손바닥을 마주 비비듯 간절한 염원은 램프를 문지르는 것으로 드러난다. (뚜껑을 열지 않지요) 그리고 이 램프는 사막 한가운데 숨겨져 있다. 보통 일상에서 떨어진 곳에.. 알라딘은 땅 속 깊은 곳에서 천장이 무너지고 탈출구가 막히는 절망과 절대절명의 시기에, 램프를 문지르게 된다. 땅 밑에서, 현재 자신의 전 존재를 건 필사적이고 절대적인 기도를 하게되는 것이다. 그때 지니를 만나게 된다.



지니는 무엇이든 들어준다. 상위자아는 겉자아가 생각하는 모든 것을 그대로 끌어온다. 그게 좋은 것이든, 나쁜 것이든. 단, 다른 사람이 억지로 날 사랑하게 만들 수는 없다. 사랑이란 건 가장 근본의 자유의지이기 때문이다. 결혼을 하여도 사랑을 하는 것이 아니다. 이별을 하여도 사랑하지 않는 것이 아니다. 사랑은 정말로, 누가 뭐란대도 절대 그렇게는 할 수 없는, 또는 그렇게 할 수 밖에 없는! 것이다. 존재의 근원을 존재의 근원이 해칠 수 있겠는가.

그리고 죽음을 다시 생으로 바꿀 수도 없다. 그것은 이미 다 한 역할이다. 그의 몫을 이미 다 하였다. 고로 이어진 이미 다른 몫이 있어서 다시 또 똑같이 할 수는 없다.



이렇게 안되는 거 빼고 다 할 수 있는 지니, 상위자아는 사실 묶여있다. 작디 작은 타이니한 램프 속에 갇혀있다. 그것은 작디 작은 타이니한 내 마음 속의 어느 점이다. 거기에 그가 갇혀있고, 묶여있다.



알라딘에게는 중요한 친구이자 무기가 있는데, 그것이 바로 마법양탄자이다. 이것은 '감정'이다. 감정은 위대한 힘이다. 기분 좋으면 날아다니고 하늘 위 끝까지 치솟을 수 있다. 감정은 삶의 감촉, 삶을 느끼는 감촉이고 지구 반대편까지도 전달되는 감동이다.



각 인물마다 함께하는 동물들이 있다. 이 동물들은 각 캐릭터의 '내면의 모습'이다. 알라딘은 원숭이를 데리고 다닌다. 원숭이는 외형은 동물 중에 인간에 가장 가깝지만 지혜를 가지지 못해 동물에 머물러 있는- 어리석음을 뜻한다. 자신을 좀도둑에 거지, 가진 것 없는 사람이라 비하하고 상처주고 상처받고 애써 그렇게 살아가는 보통 사람, 우리들이다. 쟈스민의 호랑이는 새로운 미래를 열어가는 영혼의- 위엄과 고귀함이다. 어리석음에 지지 않는 불굴의 힘을 상징한다. 자파는 앵무새, 남의 말을 따라하는 자다. 내면이 가장 허약한 사람이다. 남들이 얘기하는 욕망을 자기 욕망이라고 생각한다. 꽤 똑똑한데(인생을 잘 사는 것 같은데) 헛똑똑이다. 불행하다. 항상 불행하다. 감정이란 양탄자를 도구로 '탑승하지' 않고, 스스로 날아다녀서 폭주하면 본 모습을 잃어버리고 괴물새가 된다. 본디 내 것 아닌, 지위를 잃어버리면 초라하게 쪼끄매진다.



마법양탄자도, 원숭이도

감정도 나의 내면도

구하지 못하는 것이

바다 밑바닥까지 꽁꽁묶여 가라앉는

나의- 죽음에 이르는 절망적인 파괴다.

그 누구도 구원해줄 수 없다.

한데 누가 그때 나를 살려주느냐,

지니.

나의 상위자아다.

참 나.

절대 나를 버리지 않는-

사실

이때까지 나와 한순간도 분리되어 있지 않았던- 근원이다.

그 근원만이 죽음에서, 죽음에 이르는 파괴와 고통 속에서 날 구해준다. 원숭이, 나의 내면은 날 보며 안타까워하며 램프를 던져준다. 기도의 마음이 든다. 이때 반드시 램프를 문질러야 한다. 안 그러면, 영화의 러닝타임이 1시간에 끝난다.



세번째 마지막 소원, 지니가 은근슬쩍 자신의 바람을 말했던 그 소원이 이루어짐은,

이 이야기를 정말 빛나는 보석으로 만들어준다.



"램프에서 풀려나 사람이 되면 좋겠어"



램프에서 벗어난다.

내 마음의 타이니한 점에서

벗어나서

나와 마주보는 사람이 된다.

살아있는 친구가 된다.

너도 그렇게 생각했어?

나도 그렇게 생각했는데!

진짜 미친거 아니가?

우리 왜 이러는데?!



미쳤다.

하나가 된 것이다.









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