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How an abuse scandal devastated the Buddhist faith community | DW Docum...

How an abuse scandal devastated the Buddhist faith community | DW Documentary

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In August 2017, the Dalai Lama’s Buddhist faith community was left reeling by allegations of abuse. It was claimed that the world-famous Lama Sogyal Rinpoche had sexually abused students over many years.

According to the allegations, the Lama Sogyal Rinpoche had been sexually and physically abusing his students for decades. But how could Tibetan Buddhist authorities allow such things to happen? This documentary brings to light crimes long concealed by silence - rapes, psychological manipulation and the embezzlement of funds. Although it enjoys an excellent reputation in the West, Tibetan Buddhism has been rocked by a number of serious scandals. Through the story of Ricardo, abused from childhood and now on a personal quest for justice, this documentary gives a voice to the many victims.

The filmmakers explore the reasons why these scandals were not properly investigated and how the alleged perpetrators, protected by stoic silence, were able to evade justice. Their research takes them to Buddhist centers in France, Belgium, Britain and Spain. And to the northern Indian city of Dharamshala, headquarters of the Tibetan government in exile, which still remains stubbornly silent over these known cases of abuse. Casting all the clichés aside, this investigation takes a deeper look at Buddhist milieus that sometimes manage to dazzle people with their exotic spirituality. The documentary lifts the veil of silence and shows what goes on behind the scenes in some Buddhist faith communities

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@eddieeddie8241

1 day ago

We cannot appreciate DW enough for bringing these crimes into light. Well done.

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@HB-mr7xz

1 day ago

Unfortunately many people in the world used religions for their own benefits and selfishness. It's really sad to hear this happening over and over again across the world.

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@wilzee

20 hours ago

As a buddhist, this story has shocked and sadden me. Regardless of how i feel, it’s important the truth is out there and the victims get justice.

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@Steveinthailand

1 day ago (edited)

I used to be a Buddhist monk in Thailand at a world famous meditation retreat in Chiang Mai province.. I disrobed after just five months due to the retreat's total money-making scamming. Monks were breaking lots of precepts: eating evening meals, driving their own cars (wearing a jacket and cap for dusguise) and dating women online etc... I've so many untold stories. I'd love to give DW the insight, if they're interested.

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@Beijaxol

1 day ago

No surprise. Absolute power corrupts absolutely . Justice for the innocent victims and abandoned children.

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@AceOfSpadesX

1 day ago

This is easily one of the best documentary channels on the web. You touch on topics that are seldom discussed and I am grateful for that.

@barbaraseymour3437

1 day ago

The DW never disappoints with its documentaries - the topics, delivery, professionalism.

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@CharlesGLin

1 day ago

Thank you DW for the great documentary. I believe and practice

Buddhism myself. This documentary woke up some of my consciousness on the inside. Nowadays people use religions to achieve their political or personal agenda. We need to have unbiased media like DW to provide some pathways to wisdom.

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@jdmmg4904

1 day ago

Thank you for reporting on this. Much respect and strength for the victims ❤

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@itsudesuka

1 day ago

Great appreciation to the courageous people who made this film possible, especially the victims.

@smossnektery7581

1 day ago (edited)

That is so sad they met a bad guru.

There are rotten fruits in every tree, just like there are evil people everywhere.

If this is the truth, I am glad this is being exposed, justice must be prevailed. The rotten, wormy meat must be removed.

By the way, I am a student whom study Theravada Buddhism in Cambodia. My guru is ethical, I think I am pretty fortunate .

@Bhorangzen2040

1 day ago

Firstly, Dalai Lama is considered the spiritual head of Tibetan Buddhism but he doesn’t yield much authority governing the three other Tibetan Buddhist schools, namely Nyingma, Sakya and Kagyu. Dalai Lama is the head of Gelugpa school and has almost authority over it.

Most of these so called Buddhist masters are from either Nyingmapa or Kagyupa where there is less discipline and more venture into the tantric practices.

Tibetan Buddhism suffers from the same problems that plague other religions and practitioners need to really dedicate enough time to research a guru. Don’t get fooled by their words.

Authentic masters are far away from the material accumulation project and in some cave in the Himalayas.

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@webinfomail

1 day ago

I think the world should stop leaving old men alone with young children.... No matter the setting, because any combination of young child and a powerful man alone is a Bad Situation.

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@shupuilui8959

1 day ago (edited)

Put a bunch of children with old men in an unsupervised isolated setting. What could go wrong?

@kereszt1

19 hours ago

Happens in any religion or institution where there is such a large power imbalance. Stay away from such situations.

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@mahraz1

1 day ago (edited)

Another 1st Class documentary from the DW Team....The depth of the details in this documentary is extraordinary, yet so sad and heartbreaking...Once again, Well Done DW.

The 14th Dalai Lama, the highest spiritual figure and ruler of Tibet, as well as the recipient of the 1989 Nobel Peace Prize, ought to have the decency and bravery to express deepest regret to these youngsters in light of the Dutch King's solemn apology for the Netherlands' historical involvement in slavery...

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@christopherebukaojukwu8215

1 day ago

The thing about this as is in all religions is that the good ones know what the bad ones do and do nothing.

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@mnspugs-pk6034

15 hours ago

It is commendable that you choose this journey of reporting, even after you're parents left you at a shrine as a child. More power to you humble soul. May the peace destroyers face penalties that ache our heart.

@haile308

6 hours ago

im a buddhist and i thank you for shinning the light on these aweful and gruesom acts. justice needs to be served and the stain needs to be purged from the community. its ugly and these predators in sheep skin needs to be punished and shamed to the full extent of the law.

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@carettamyers13

1 day ago

Disturbing! Justice for these ladies please. I hope no child will be hurt like this EVER.

@joelgaas858

23 hours ago

Big salute to DW.... More and more investigative documentaries........like this we can not allow someone will use the blanket of religion and faith on exploiting our women and our people. Because... that act is not represent faith of God but a devil.

@gilenasimons7081

1 day ago

I am pleased to have adopted Taoist principles to my Buddhist beliefs. Time and time again we see corruption in religions across our globe. I do believe there is a latency for evil in select members of our species which grows when they perceive power. God bless and ament. 🇬🇧

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@SabineWald_NowHere

1 day ago

Good on you DW Documentary for reporting on this. Hopefully it helps some of the blinded spiritual followers take the cults seriously. Any spiritual formation is a cult, there's no question about it. People get tortured psychologically or physically and some have ended their lives in these communities but governments haven't regulated this and do nothing about it. The followers usually protect the cult leaders because they are heavily hypnotised by their charisma.

@sriannatta2796

21 hours ago

Do NOT leave your mind at the door. There should be no dedication unless earned and then still you should be able to question. Mětta Karuna Mudhita Uppheka for all those suffering by such horrible offenses.

🙏🏾🕉🙏🏾

@ChannelJtotheD

6 hours ago

Shocking, disturbing and in disbelief. All this occurring and in the name of religion. Parents be vigilant when it comes to whom you surround your children with. It’s a sad happening for all the victims. I was always told that Hinduism/Budism was a good clean religion and here we go with so much scandal. May all the places of worship be safe in all religions. 🙏

@andromedaandromedic8126

20 hours ago

Recent scandals also shake my faith into religious Buddhism. But I decided to start again from scratch, exploring Budhisam from written Budhist text, not ever will worship religious authority. For everyone who feel the same - keep your faith and practice, faith is not guilty cuz religious authority was sinful.

@suzannahmontreal1051

1 day ago (edited)

Don't trust anyone but yourself, nobody else, never. If you see men standing in front of people playing dress up as priest, monk, lama, sensei, pastor, bishop, gourou or whatever they need to called themselves just turn around and walk away. Whether they're after something or hiding something it's always suspicious

@koshisunuwarrai

22 hours ago

it is sad that most people don't realize the difference between faith and a blind faith.

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@DharmaKyab

1 day ago (edited)

This documentary appears to be incomplete. The researcher behind it should thoroughly study the video footages of Dalai Lama speaking in Tibetan. By doing so, they will discover the numerous instances in which he has actively worked and spoken out to raise awareness about sexual harassment and malpractices by Buddhist teachers worldwide.

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@phuntshopelden345

10 hours ago (edited)

To loosely say 'abused by buddhism' targets buddhism at large. Please be mindful that an action of an individual shouldn't represent a group as a whole. Buddhism does not teach any sort of violence or abuse. Its the people who misuses or abuse it. No religion accepts or approves of sexual abuses. Its a basic common sense

@Hoa-Luu-Ly

1 day ago

Buddha , he even said to question all teachings and religions. You're on your own quest to find enlightenment. People follow religions like a cult and use the name of it to exploit the weak and abuse the kind. It's human dig their own grave 🤦🏻‍♀️

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@harperwelch5147

1 day ago (edited)

“You should not put all responsibilities on my shoulders.” Indeed. That’s why leaders depend on others and delegate authority to achieve what must be achieved to do their job as best they can.

@DarylSolis

1 day ago

No justice for the victims. Quite sad.

@dcallan812

1 day ago

The news |I would be shocked to hear is any religion NOT having skeletons in the closet. As soon as a group of people have power over others, abuse is just sitting by waiting for the first touch or thump.

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@McLKeith

1 day ago

The Buddha said “Be a light unto oneself.” He did not say to blindly follow a guru.

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@henke8304

1 hour ago

I believe every word you say. I wish you peace and healing and justice. Please continue doing what you do .

@mesonhyolmo7242

1 day ago

I respect and give value to all religion but we should not do fully trust on gurus or teachers what they say and order. There must be control on even trust too. It is Yourself to take decision and choose right path, No one is greater than you yourself.🙏🙏.

@nneichan9353

1 day ago

this kind of thing is one reason I do not belong to an organized buddhist community. I still classify myself as buddhist, but I don't associate with people I could trust only to discover this kind of horror.

@davidhaugen9966

1 day ago

Thank you for this presentation. I never could have guessed the infamy in the Buddhst sphere.

@pcc.4954

51 minutes ago

This entire record narrates the divergence in the development of Tibetan Tantra Buddhism in the West. But at the same time, it also deepened the misunderstanding of Tibetan Tantra Buddhism. In fact, being able to truly understand "it" is a lucky thing. It depends on each person's abilities, and it is not suitable for everyone. Maybe the problem lies in the blind obedience in each person. Before entering the door of Tibetan Tantra Buddhism, there are some basics that need to be known.

@RoseNZieg

1 day ago

the only way to stop this is to have an outsider investigate the allegations.

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@EmmaDee

1 day ago

There’s no reason AT ALL these kids, now adults would come forward to relive this trauma if it weren’t truth.

@wanalan9958

3 hours ago

It is not the religion but the human being behind it.

@tibetmusicvideos7593

1 day ago

Dear fellow seekers on the path of truth and compassion,

As followers of the Buddha's teachings, we strive to cultivate wisdom, kindness, and integrity in our lives. Our shared commitment to these principles compels us to address a grave issue that has recently come to light within our community: the occurrence of sexual assault perpetrated by individuals who may hold positions of authority or influence, such as so-called gurus.

First and foremost, it is crucial to emphasize that any form of sexual assault is absolutely unacceptable and should be exposed. We must not shy away from shining a light on such heinous acts, regardless of the status or reputation of the perpetrator. The pain and trauma experienced by the victims must be acknowledged, and their voices must be heard.

However, it is equally important to recognize that the actions of a few individuals do not represent the entire Buddhist community. Buddhism teaches us to understand that each individual is responsible for their own thoughts, words, and deeds. It is the individual who commits abuse and should bear the consequences of their actions, rather than attributing blame to the wider Buddhist community.

In light of these unfortunate incidents, we must foster an environment that encourages openness, support, and accountability. It is crucial for us to strengthen the framework of ethical guidelines within our community, ensuring that it provides a safe and secure space for all practitioners. Transparency, responsible leadership, and the establishment of mechanisms for reporting and addressing such misconduct are essential.

Moreover, we must actively promote education and awareness about consent, boundaries, and healthy relationships within our sangha. By nurturing a culture of respect, empathy, and empowerment, we can work together to prevent abuse and protect the well-being of all members.

Finally, let us remember that Buddhism teaches us the profound interconnectedness of all beings. When we encounter such painful situations, it is an opportunity to reflect on the impermanence and suffering inherent in human existence. Let us respond with compassion and dedication to upholding the fundamental values of our tradition, promoting healing, justice, and the integrity of the Buddhist path.

May all beings be free from harm, may their voices be heard, and may we walk this path together with wisdom and compassion.

With Metta,

A fellow Buddhist

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@kdramasnaps1896

1 day ago

Blind faith in any religion is worse . Belief in yourself , belief in the connection between you n your god . I dont think at times like this guru or any sort of human will bring god closer to you . 🙏

Everybody has their own vested interest putting their own thoughts into the teachings so it changes the narattion .

@erikweston209

1 day ago

this is also the Dharma. Thank you for telling the truth.

@dikidiki89

18 hours ago (edited)

His Holiness Dalai Lama said many times that before you follow a teacher always research and even during teaching one should always ask when in doubt and not to follow blindly… and to analyze the teachings. Analyzing, questioning and researching is also heart of Buddhism too. Buddha also said.. before believing my words ask n analyze. Some of the lamas in the names of Buddhist who did these crime are not true Lama. His Holiness never encourage any foreigners to convert into Buddhist. He clearly said one should stay in their own religion. So always ask, research and analyze.

@roobetaroo3133

33 minutes ago

It is indeed a heartbreaking and deeply disturbing account of abuse and exploitation within the OKC Tibetan Buddhist community and other Buddhist communities. The experiences described by the individuals involved are traumatic and should be taken seriously. It is crucial to acknowledge and address cases of abuse and misconduct within any religious or spiritual organization.

While Buddhism, like any religion, has principles and teachings that promote compassion, wisdom, and ethical conduct, it is important to recognize that no religion or community is immune to the actions of individuals who misuse their power. It is crucial to separate the actions of individuals from the teachings of the religion itself.

Countering this account requires acknowledging the victims' experiences, supporting their pursuit of justice, and working towards ensuring the safety and well-being of individuals within religious communities. It is essential to investigate allegations of abuse thoroughly, hold the perpetrators accountable, and implement measures to prevent such incidents in the future.

Moreover, it is important to recognize that the actions of a few individuals do not represent the entire Buddhist community or invalidate the positive aspects and teachings of Buddhism. Many Buddhist practitioners and organizations are committed to upholding ethical conduct and creating safe environments for their members.

Ultimately, it is necessary to confront and address abuse and exploitation within religious communities, regardless of their affiliation, and work towards creating spaces that prioritize the well-being, dignity, and safety of all individuals involved.

@lancesay

1 day ago

thank you for exposing the dark side of religions. this is why many are turning away from religions these days. religions are not the same as once... or before, we hardly hear about it. what is going through thailand right now is all about this and money.

@Dr.Engr005

1 day ago

Very sad to know about this stupidity. The points of energy. ®️™️

@tammyloo9165

1 day ago

The Buddha taught that attachment leads to suffering. in this awful case, it’s the attachment to a so called Guru. May we all have the wisdom to avoid such blind attachment 🙏🏽. Sending Metta ❤ to all victims. May they heal from this trauma. And thank you for exposing this cult.

@beanbean8375

1 day ago

Only 9 mins in and oof. Guy groomed kids like a cult leader. That this is likely not an isolated case ain't great

@tenzint4613

6 hours ago

What I don’t understand is how can these people get themselves get abused for years only because their masters are asking them to keep quiet for dharma. I know it is easier said than done. I don’t know a lot of Buddhism but I think the very foundation of Buddhism is to question and to raise your doubts whenever there’s one weather it’s about your teacher or religion itself. I hope people keep questioning their faith.

@John-fs2cu

16 hours ago

Religion problem is a title broadcasting everyone avoids.

It's only covered in the DW channel.

In fact, the devastation of religion is an old problem.

It's a historically recurring problem, but one that everyone avoids.

To think of religion as a sanctuary is itself a perversion.

I would like to express my gratitude to the DW channel for broadcasting.

@yveb9074

16 hours ago (edited)

Never sacrifice your right to say 'NO' no matter how "devoted" you might be to the Guru. Manipulation is a very human trait. Enlightenment is very difficult to attain /maintain on Earth. Predators know where to find the easiest prey.

@stefanjohansson2373

1 day ago

It’s common that religious leaders miss use their power and position, and sadly this exists in all religions. Religions are also behind a lot of wars, and still a lot of people thinks it’s a good idea… 🤔

@Erik_mit_K

15 hours ago

They learned well from the church, always blame the victim. Religion will always attract those predators, and the others will always look away.😢

@vibnwis

5 hours ago

I am a Buddhist. All Buddhists should practise five-precepts, and Buddhist teachers, e.g. Buddhist monks, practise 227 precepts. One of them is sexual misconduct. Why and how do the students still believe in the teacher when he has failed to practise the precepts? It is so strange to me to see Westnen followers follow the teacher like he is God. As a student, you need to attend dhamma talks, meditation sessions, and food offerings. Occasionally, some sort of ceremony. Why spend time with the teacher all day long, and why donate all your money. This is definitely not Buddhism. Western followers practise Buddhism the same way they practise Christianity.

@thuptentenzin7850

1 day ago (edited)

There is no head of the Church as in Christianity in bhuddism. Dalai lama is most respected religious leader but he is not the head of tibetan bhuddism, He belongs to one of the four tibetan bhuddists schools, each school has its own religoius head. So their is no heriarchy in tibetan bhuddism similar to christianity. People in the world think he is head of Bhuddism as Pope, but he is not. He is most famous bhuddist leader. He has no technical power of excomunication or ban as in christian church traditions. He has no control over behaviours of some tibetan and western bhuddists teachers, he can only advice and request the correctness of behaviours of monks and teachers as he has always done. Followers has to be careful to whom to follow.

unfortunately since thousands of years cases of abuse was there, there still are and there will be.

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@naminami4897

2 hours ago

Happened in many many countries. They called it ‘devotion’. 😵‍💫

@johanjohansson1434

1 day ago

DW Documentary, vielen Dank wie immer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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@musgrave6886

1 day ago

their hypocrisy is appalling.

@homobohemicus

21 hours ago (edited)

Just look at Mother Theresa and the pain she inflicted with her practices but hiding in the lime light of politics, money, fame with the regular poor men and women in Kolkata... I am sad to see that the Dali Lama couldn't find it universally simple to say "This is wrong".. no buts or ifs... But after living in Thailand for over 15y I discovered that any organised religion or philosophy and yes even Buddhism like any other is stained in scandals and compounded by the Asian "saving face" culture resulting in a don't ask don't tell reality. NO ONE should be beyond reproach even the head of the Buddhist faith...

Myanmar anyone?

What a typical guy response... "I did not do anything wrong. It is a spiteful lying woman who fell in love with me...!!!!!!!! "Shameful...

@somerandomfella

1 day ago

Following something or someone is for lost people.

@wojomojo

12 hours ago (edited)

Do the Westerners who put Tibetan Buddhism on such a high pedestal, beyond their own societal norms, bear some responsibility for these tragedies? Or is it solely the religion's or even the Dalai Lama's fault? Seems to me it is as much the former as it is the latter, as they projected the papal infallibility that they expected from the monotheistic Christian tradition onto Tibetan Buddhism. Throw in a bad apples in powerful positions and you get these tragedies in every religion. I deeply admire Tibetans and their religion, and agree with many of the concepts from Buddhism, but whenever you put aside your own thoughts and just blindly follow any religion you are probably just idol worshiping as Jesus preached against.

@MrCookding

1 day ago (edited)

Wrong guru is an extremely sad situation. It is like a lottery system. In this modern era, I would say spread your bets a bit with different teachers and lineages. The life force of a lineage itself is definitely real but already difficult for up keep on its own and if you have a wrong lama stand in the way... It becomes almost impossible for benefits. Buddhism is a team sports (sooner the better people realize this) and if some team members go down, we should support them. Hopefully any victim should not give up and perhaps a female teacher with an authentic lineage... we need some kind of support system for them and healing.

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@taidelek9994

1 day ago

Where there is blind faith and blind confidence, there is no spirituality.

@tenzinwoedhen4995

16 hours ago

it is important to acknowledge that we should not undermine a 2500-year-old religion, its beliefs, and the benefits it brings to its followers. Every religion, like any human endeavor, possesses both positive and negative aspects. Therefore, it is crucial not to blindly accept everything we see and hear in this video . Instead, I firmly believe in conducting thorough research supported by concrete evidence, rather than relying solely on stories. It is not my intention to label this particular video as fake, but it appears to lack hard evidence and relies predominantly on a narrative."

@bieditso2038

1 day ago

Always knew something very werid about those monks and missionaries running around gathering children. 😮

@gkukel

1 day ago

When I appreciate DW for bringing real issues, I also should correct some interviewees shown here some of which are misleading. Either they don't fully understand Buddhism or they are upto to something, I don't know. I agree there are lots of fake masters, but it's the responsibility of the students to question, question, question.....When you going to buy a diamond sometime you buy fake ones, so to avoid that you have to thoroughly investigate it. Don't say all Buddhist masters are fake, there are diamonds but you have the eyes and minds to differente them.

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@zhiwui2114

1 day ago

I understand why the Dalai Lama is doing this. And why this is happening.

His country is under occupation and his priority is his people. Denouncing these sexual abusers would weaken his cause and give ammunition to his detractors.

These scumbags use their positions of power, their ability to give meaning and hope to individuals and they abuse it for their own selfish gains.

People fall victim to these scumbags because they're told what they want to hear: words of hope and a sense of purpose.

The acts of abuse and the silence and implicit approval is wrong.

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@hirokomorioka6562

16 hours ago

Every religion and cult has the sexual abuse. Dalai Lama also talked about it.

@katiedotson704

1 hour ago

It is my belief that when the Dalai Lama removed his name from the letter condemning sexual relationships between student and teacher, that it was an indication of his own guilt.

@Mina-op5rc

11 hours ago (edited)

The saddest thing is the number of people to fall for these false spiritual teachers even today. Walking the Buddhah's path is not easy, and people who do not want to do the hard work start following these so-called fake gurus or spiritual teachers hoping they will take them to the enlightenment. I never even trusted Dali Lama in my spiritual path. He is a political figure that has his own agenda. Study Buddhism, practice it every day, and find the teacher within yourself.

@mironmao

1 day ago

Let truth be told. May God grant us all discrimination to find the perfect master.

@lily_m3538

23 hours ago

An important documentary that exposes and warns potential acolytes of what can happen.

@yanifree114

1 day ago

Well done. Thank you.

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@user-pt2pc5uf1g

18 hours ago

Let the one who has not sinned cast the first stone.

@maresabruiners5199

11 hours ago

Everyone has the right not to be violated not in anyway and those that violate one sexually should not go unpunished,,and countries should work together on punishing the wrongdoers

@PA-hi9wj

18 hours ago (edited)

I'm genuinely baffled at how the Dalai Lama could laugh during a serious meeting about child abuse. I can't see any laughing matter in such circumstances. Especially when all children rely on known religious figures like him to act righteously & honorably to protect them

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@tarac8186

15 hours ago

J ai fait partie d un centre bouddhiste en Suisse et vraiment je recommande d être vigilant aussi avec le dirigeant du centre laïc faites une enquête, posez des questions, ne donner pas d argent (une petite donation suffit), ne faites pas de travail gratuit et ne donner pas d informations personnelles. Garder vos distance suivez votre intuition. 🙏

@baalah3338

1 day ago

🏡 Home and Biological Parents are supposed to be the safest place for children 😇 Lord keep our places of worship safe for all 🙏🏽

@mzee5533

1 day ago

The gvt who are not holding these organizations accountable are to blame. They must make these religious institutions pay tax and must not be allowed to be part of the government

@kasturiswami784

23 hours ago

I once saw a male Buddhist monk chasing a srilankan female Buddhist nun in an Indian touristy place. I thought to myself one can change ones dress outwardly but remain same inside.

@mkkrupp2462

1 day ago

Michael Nolan, former monk and assistant to Rinpoche - “it’s definitely like the mafia”.

@aboveandbeyond37

22 hours ago

It exists in almost all religions and cultures. In this world no one really comes out clean.

@psychedelic707

1 day ago

All wolves in sheep's clothing...

@tenzintseten

16 hours ago

His holiness the Dalai Lama has never propagated Buddhism. He says it is best to follow the religion of the family you are born into. Moreover, he always mention that one must not follow Buddhism blindly and that even Buddha himself asks not to follow him blindly. May those in suffering find peace. Om mani padme hung.

@NeutronStar9

21 hours ago

You must also do a documentary on ISKCON and many other religious institutions.

@tenzintseten

1 day ago

There are different sects in Tibetan Buddhism and each sects have their own head. His holiness the Dalai Lama is the head of Gelugpa sect and doesn’t hold authority over the other sects. The Lamas in question are from other sects.

@luciavalente1002

1 day ago

So the Dalai Lama laughed when he was told about it and people think he is so 'good' I have never felt that he was 'good' He is an actor. What does he do that makes him 'good'?

@rohankemprai9581

1 day ago

I believe dw should nt have banned the peace loving communitys documentary . Rules and courage should be for all equally and not for anything else

@dianehghzn7670

1 day ago

Beyond punnishment or above thinking theyll not get their right deserves for the wrongs or rights that anyone does if not the law karma will definitely catch up with them anyway there will be no escape they will get their punishments

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@geethajayaprakash9585

18 hours ago

Sanyasin, priest,lama,or mullah

Its hard to find a spiritual leader who is beyond worldly riches

@TasmiQ2

2 hours ago

Saddened that east vs west logic came up when evil behaviour is inexcusable, Dalai Lama's Nobel Prize can be seriously questioned when he remains quiet to those that control his purse strings...

@quynhannecy5074

1 day ago (edited)

I used to Totally Trust if I am suffered it is good due to the definition of purge. But the more I grow up, the more skeptical I feel. Who are they and How dare they to have right to say that Bad Is Deserve To You? while the last word of Budda: Finally, You are the only one can help yourself. So why I have to 'seek help' and blind obeidence ??? And if everyone have past life so the past of the past ... of Budda is what? Nothing. Kind of vicious circle, but I now know: Belief is also a weapon for evils to conquer human' wills, power to conquer himself as wisdom, ludicrously, his own Enlightment. When he tries to seek by leaning on who claimed himself as a Student of Buddhism.

I dont decline Good Deeds, lessons and value from any religion but first of all: we must always know - Your Life Is On Your Choice. It requires us to dare Rethink before have faith.

P/S: A viral and controversal video btw Daila Latma - singer Lady Gaga about his inappropriate behavior in front of ppl in a meeting is one of oxymorony. Woah :))) eyes open for me, if he dares to do it in public so imagine if in private space... who knows what a Nobel Prizer could do?

@shodopoet

1 day ago (edited)

Great doc “Don’t follow leaders…”

@mohammedsaysrashid3587

19 hours ago

Another wonderful documentary video shared by an excellent DW documentary channel....thank you...for sharing

@tibet4088

1 day ago

It is very important to notice that the abuse against children were committed by a western person bearing a Tibetan name but NOT TIBETAN! As the commentator said, he is from Belgium!!!

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@hoale811

11 minutes ago

People commit the same crimes. It doesnt matter which religion or place as long as there is no rightfull judge.

@georged1160

1 day ago

Its good to filter out the impurity, You simply cannot brush aside the whole religion of more than 2600 yrs old by this documentary of abuses. It is also very important to accept the fact that Buddhism also benefited countless people

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@edwardsnowden8821

1 day ago

This is not an isolated Case..

@abellyold4859

21 hours ago (edited)

The problem is people in general think that Tibet is Shangri La and thus a spiritual paradise where anything associated with it is mistakenly seen as pure and beyond reproach. This is confirmation bias and stereotyping not based on reality.

@princenegi1886

1 day ago

One thing to notice is that Buddhism isn't a monolithic religion with Dalai lama as its leader.Even within Tibetan Buddhism there are many factions,sects which have seperate leaders who don't necessarily follow him.

@associatedblacksheepandmisfits

9 hours ago

Critical thinking is sorely needed.😢

@forestanimalito236

1 day ago

I was perplexed for many years about finding so called Absolute truth... until I finally discovered this statement: "I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organised... The moment you follow someone you cease to follow Truth... You are depending for your spirituality on someone else, for your happiness on someone else, for your enlightenment on someone else.... No man from outside can make you free..... No one holds the Key to the Kingdom of Happiness. No one has the authority to hold that key. That key is your own self, and in the development and the purification and in the incorruptibility of that self alone is the Kingdom of Eternity." It was none other than Jiddu Krishnamurti, wha said it in 1929.

@denisedecarlo9311

1 day ago

I knew this must have been going on...they are just so quiet and shut off...so happy it's coming out as I said I was sure it was happening

@pasangfernandes4938

23 hours ago

There are many who use religion for their personal interests. They misinterpret religion adding their beliefs to it. Any monk or nun who indulges in such practice or shows any sign of wavering away from the teaching is relieved from the monastery to live normal life outside.

@hiucheefatt9323

46 minutes ago

Its not for no reason that when Sakyamuni Buddha about to enter Nirvana, Ananda representing other disciples asked him who will be their leader and supreme teacher after the Buddha. Instead of appointing the most attained disciple such as Maulgayayana, Kasyapa or Subhuti, the Buddha said my teaching (buddha dharma) and rules (Vinaya) is your teacher. Follow his teaching and precepts nothing will go wrong.

@imh9278

1 day ago

It is all a business.. very few are genuine

@loliwemoyo5680

1 day ago

The Dalai Lama is as complicit as the pope. This docu shows people with a platform to get justice abuses are worse in poor areas. We are all fighting the same demons only some have big platform enabling them to hurt many. To be inquisitive and doubtful is a good thing lest you fall pray.

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@theepicbookandbusman5208

12 hours ago

This documentary is pretty old as they are using old footage of interviews. Both Sogyal and Namkah passed away years ago.

@fatcat1330

1 day ago (edited)

Tibetan buddhism does not represent Buddhism in general. It has a lot of difference from the Buddhism practiced worldwide

@lululand1653

16 hours ago

Thank you DW for bringing this into the light.

DW Documentary

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@gkukel

1 day ago (edited)

Dalai lama : I'm a simple monk.

People : why don't you interfere in Buddhist astrocity of Burmese muslims. Why don't you defend Sogyal Rinpoc desciples, why don't you do this and that....

Also people and media : silent over youngest "political" prisoner Buddhist master Penchen lama captured by China. Nobody knows about his whereabouts. Self immolation of more than 150 Tibetan, no reaction. Chinese propaganda machine defaming His Holiness innocent behaviour as child abuse. No body so called Buddhist desciples except true followers of Himalayan regions who has faith in Him protests while media were busy over spreading and defaming further by showing only the portion of the video, thus by giving fuel to Chinese propaganda machines. They forgot all His good qualities at once and look at this simple monk even apologizing when the child and his parents were happy that they got blessings. They even showed their concern and apology to His Holiness, but nedia never show that.

@thecrimsondragon9744

1 day ago

This just goes to show all religions have a dark and ugly side to them. And the clerical class (monks, priests, imams etc) always abuse their power in one way or another. The Buddha would not approve of what has become of Buddhism.

@peterhumphrys

1 day ago

give anyone too much power over others and this sort of abuse is bound to happen,

how often does this garbage have to happen before society wakes up and sees these problems inherent in secluded religious communities, that here in North America get special tax breaks, it's flipping ridiculous?! Abuse people and get a tax break for your crimes because you cloak your activities in relgious garb.

@Namchem13

5 hours ago

So sad of victims who really suffer the name of religious but Buddha teach us we don’t believe blindly in his teaching , first we Investigate his teaching after implicate it.

@valireklaam

12 hours ago

the next step would be to audit the taxes of all these religious institutions including Christian churches - there is a lot of cash being used and they have also big real estate portfolios. Governments have been shy to audit them so far , fearing that they will be accused of religious discrimination

@benblaste654

1 day ago

The audio isn't synced properly?

@fusiapink5593

22 hours ago

Learn the teachings; never go overboard n believe without doubts - superstitious is dangerous; if she/ he is good, respect them, never idolise a human.

@khailchain924

21 hours ago

well done dw <3

DW Documentary

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@daigoyoda

18 hours ago

Religion was necessary when not everyone had opportunities for education and moral compass. Now with technology and information so abundant, i think it creates more harm then good. I believe in science and what I perosnally experience from the world around me. Not some BS that some dudes from thousands of years ago came up with...

@ernesttanabaev7302

16 hours ago

Also would be interesting from DW to see about Fetullah Gulen's community how do they treat children and build their empire.

@wardaksaheb1344

18 hours ago

So problem is not from those religion problem is persons who abuse those religion

@LetsGOXplore

1 day ago

Any Buddhist need to understand the Sutra thoroughly and up tend your wisdoms. Then you will not be deceived. An appreciation and gratitude to DW for this video, well done.

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@mewe9020

1 day ago

I don't believe in anybody or group, I believe in action

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@huaweichen8044

1 day ago

This video was so dedicated. It makes me so suspicious that westerners are suitable for practicing Buddhism…😮

@annakonda6727

22 hours ago

The worst phrase in the whole video was "students must be warned..." because obviously, in this situation it's the students that have the power and the "charisma" that tempt their teachers. This is why organised religion sucks, has sucked and will suck forever.

@csanson2004

3 hours ago

Where is Sogyal Rinpoche now?

Sogyal Rinpoche - Wikipedia

Sogyal Rinpoche died, aged 72, of a pulmonary embolism on 28 August 2019 in Thailand where he was being treated for colorectal cancer.

@tkt62200

1 day ago (edited)

Unless shown otherwise, please do not confuse the 100k Tibetans who fled for India in 1959 and their subsequent recruits with the 5M who stayed behind in Tibet itself, Sichuan, Qinghai, Gansu and Yunnan provinces. The Dalai Lama was funded by the CIA during that time and many of the people who fled with him were serf-owning Elites who terribly oppressed the ordinary Tibetans. The so-called Tibetan culture (including Buddhism) is alive and well today in those Chinese provinces, not in Dharamsala, India! You are welcome to visit the actual Tibet. I did.

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@perpetuakanyutu2610

20 hours ago

.. what, there are such shameful scandals in the Buddhist faith 😳😡

@ruuuuudooooolph

15 hours ago

32:00 she is gorgeous, cant tell if she is young adult in her 30's or a woman who aged gracefully in her 50's.

@MrCookding

1 day ago (edited)

The problem with Tibetan Buddhism is we have lama who barely have time to sleep because he needs to practice 20 plus folios of different practices every day in order to keep the lineage life force so he can offer them to students in need in the future then we have lama having all the time in the world gaming the money, women and sadly children... Unfortunately... not placing a bet is also not a good bet either.

@newmoon1448

1 day ago

Cults take many forms.

@mohammedsaysrashid3587

18 hours ago

When someone loses personalized spiritual settlement inside community due to Socil-economic conditions in materialized pressures suddenness religions wolves are hunting them....everywhere around the world 🌎

@susanamurcia619

8 hours ago

Maybe there are many uncovered for long time ago. Today is your day to BREAK YOUR SILENCE AND MALE YOUR VOICE BE HEAR ALOUD!! THAT'S YOUR FREEDOM!❤

@katiedotson704

1 hour ago

All religions have one goal. Control. How you think, behave, dress, your code of conduct, and your money.

@arsalanmirza3411

1 day ago

Buddha said: The Sun ☀️ the Moon 🌙 and the TRUTH cannot be hidden for ever❗️

@zaritibet

35 minutes ago

The fundamental Buddhist teachings are about self knowing and liberation from achievement. People always misunderstood between Buddhism and Buddhist. We can call ourselves Buddhist but you need to know that it’s just name if you don’t know what the fundamental meaning of behind this name? Whence you learned that then on one has to misuse you. Otherwise you could used by anyone. It like friendship. You can be friendly but you can not longer to be friend with people who misuse you. Sorry for those victims and now you know, be Smart next time.

@johnlogan4303

5 hours ago

1. Tibetan Buddhist community is not Dalai Lama’s community. Only the gelug community is Dalai Lama’s community. Dalai Lama doesn’t have any power or control over other sects like Nyingma or Kagyu.

2. In all his teachings, Dalai Lama repeatedly says one must analyse and check the behavior of Guru for atleast 10 yrs, before putting your faith in Guru.

But Westerners want instant enlightenment, so whoever promises them that they’ll immediately take them as guru.

It’s like, people won’t listen to what Dalai Lama says, then go to him when they suffer the consequence.

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@mitzvaah

6 hours ago

Few days ago The Holy Dalai lama asked a small boy to kiss on his tongue 😮

And now this video makes me cringe to my core😢

@Pachochay8045

4 hours ago (edited)

The Dali lamas name was removed ??? Is that means he does not like to take responsibility??? Meaning Buddhism is also like any other religion “ corrupt “ ? Absolutely POWERS ! Talking about secrets , sexual contacts , master and students ??? Etc; very Sad !!!

@nedmar

1 day ago (edited)

Religions, no matter which, are secondary in this sense. What ultimately rules is human nature, and many times it is the dark side of it which surfaces independently of faith and beliefs that may otherwise be pure and clean. Perverted Christianism leads to child abuse and whatnot, extreme Islam leads to terror, and there is even a Buddhist community in Thailand called Dhammakaya, which centers on endless wealth and power instead of traditional monastic rules like humility and homelessness. Humans can defile even the purest of religious traditions and cast an evil shadow on them. BTW the Buddha himself said in one of his speeches that the master must be put to the test by the follower, but interestingly enough no Buddhist tradition (first and foremost Tibetan with all that paraphernalia and pompous rites) seems to include this except for the Theravada. Another very famous speech tells that "Do not believe anything on mere hearsay, do not believe anything merely because presumption is in its favor, or because the custom of many years inclines you to take it as true, do not believe anything merely on the authority of your teachers and priests, but, whatever, after one's own thorough investigation and reflection without any external influence, you find to agree with reason and experience, as conducive to the good and benefit of one and all and of the world at large, accept only that as true, and shape your life in accordance with it." (Kalama sutta)

@dmiddleclassreviews1688

1 day ago (edited)

it's not only in Buddhism. Child abuse has become common in every religion...

Madras's in Muslims.... Pastor.. BABA's in Hindus..dont send ur children to these kind of peoples

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@jinli4787

1 day ago

It is irresponsible of DW to call this documentary "Buddhism and abuse", because the Tibetan Buddhism is extremely different than the Buddhism practiced any where else in the world. To someone who is unfamiliar with this fact, all Asian people believe in Buddhism are like this. This is unacceptable to name this documentary as it is.

For you to understand it better, here is an example. If someone makes a documentary about Mormons, then name it "Christians".

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@cp-sb6cp

8 hours ago

How could he laugh when he heard about the abuse from a member of his teaching.

Disappointed at Dalai Lama !!!

@mkkrupp2462

1 day ago (edited)

12.20 onwards. The Dalai Lama’s response is quite pathetic. I’ve wondered in the past if his books are ghost written because he has rarely impressed me in interviews I’ve seen. Perhaps it’s a language problem but …..

@prolarka

1 day ago

The line of servants is endless...

@erjusik

1 day ago

I can't believe Dalailama was laughing as they were discussing sexual abuse

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@takuan650

1 day ago

The Dalai Lama like the Pope? Knows what's going on and doing nothing? To me religion smells funny no matter what name they call it. Self inquiry and self observation is the way to learn about myself without the 'wisdom' and 'guidance' from 'spiritual leaders'. Religion is just another springboard to money and power and that is easy to observe.

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@rodrigoalmanza66

1 day ago

That happened when you follow ideologies. It blinds you to the facts and reality.

@danny2518

13 hours ago

This weight is not on His Holiness the Dali Lama to be clear. He has his vows that he keeps and loves all sentient beings. Do not ask him to criticize, ect. ect. and do your will. This is not the same as the Catholic church and the Pope, it is very different and you may not understand it.

@lydiat5819

8 hours ago

that is why I don't believe in religion but I believe in God. Religion is a tool to control others be it good or bad

@a-k6575

1 day ago (edited)

Ask me about it. I'm enduring stalking and defamation ongoing today from a Buddhist org in NZ. I chose to distant myself gradually during the past ten plus years after experiencing contradicting behaviour cult tactics.

@dikidiki89

10 hours ago

His Holiness Dalai Lama clearly stated in one of his speech… for us Buddhist, Buddha is not god but a teacher. And Buddha also said you are your own master. So before devoting yourself to any master…. RESEARCH… during teaching ASK… after teaching ANALYZE.

@fanny3942

8 hours ago

You see!? It did not happen only in Catholic Church 😫

@spontaneousbootay35

1 day ago

Real buddhism is literally about seeing past any illusions and delusions yourself. Having a spiritual leader is anti buddhist.

@dadondadon7477

21 hours ago

Long live his holiness 14th great Dalai Lama 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

@thearrenjoan.1665

17 hours ago

By their fruits, you shall know them.

@gkukel

1 day ago

Again one thing to clarify, true Buddhist masters never say to donate money or offerings. It's ok if you don't have anything to offer. Just visualizating making offering is ok, but one can earn merit just by rejoicing in other devotees offering. I understand criticizing but putting Masalas isn't ok, being a Buddhist people should understand it.

@juliesilvaggio804

23 hours ago

People don’t understand that these lamas, priests and religious leaders are not god! They are humans. Too many people blindly followed what they don’t understand.

@hapijen4828

1 day ago (edited)

Dalai Lama's reaction to these serious allegations is to make it a joke & get everyone laughing!!!

And eventually ignore it.

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@l.c.3150

10 hours ago (edited)

Dalai Lama has caused untold suffering to Dorge Shugden followers. The history of Tibetan monks etc is similar to the church in Europe: power, many transgressions, and money. No organization is free from the delusions of greed, power, desires of all kinds etc

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@papasmurf4961

20 hours ago

when the chief or the teaching in live, attach to the glamour of life, money, etc, this is what they get

@brucilly

21 hours ago

I studied all major religion when I was younger but love Buddhism and try to practice it in my daily life. Anyway, I don't believe in belonging to any religion, going to church or temple, nor having any gurus. You are your own guru.

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@rebeccagray2443

1 day ago

I knew a woman who dropped her son off there.

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@metalextras

1 day ago

Our nature is inherently good. We are born with an ability to distinguish right from wrong. But we are not exempt from acting violently or selfishly. For most of us, hurting others causes us to feel their pain. And we don't like this feeling. This suggests two reasons people may harm the harmless – either they don't feel the others' pain or they enjoy feeling the others' pain.

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@WilliamLeam

1 day ago

The title is a misnomer.

Buddhism is a concept like everything. Therefore it is also subject to suffering and impermanence. Dhamma, the real Buddha's teaching is just a tool for achieving enlightenment. So we let it all go, including Dhamma.

The sad episode was an example of sexual misconduct. His bad kamma would follow him to the next lives.

The problem is not Buddhism, it is lack of compassion and saddha in Dhamma.

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@ernesttanabaev7302

16 hours ago

I would love to see DW making a documentary on abuse and manipulation in muslim religious community. How children are being influenced by the wrong interpretation of religion and etc.

@alexandersumarokov5901

1 day ago (edited)

There was and will be only one teacher,

all the rest of his students forever.

Conclusion:

Who calls himself a teacher is not a Buddhist.😠

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@TheYah00netstar

1 day ago (edited)

I never trusted the dalai l... either...if one with sense listen to his "teachings"...soon realizes how shallow and nonsensical the whole thing is...regarding his "wisdom".

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@SabineWald_NowHere

1 day ago

Also Dalai Lama isn't 'enlightened' or didn't go beyond egotism. The fact that he is chosen Lama doesn't mean he stripped his ID or ego trip if you like. They are all as bad as each others. I do NOT trust a single one of them as there's nothing to reach but to recognise that what we truly are is not 'me' or 'ego'. There's no reason to form cults to see this.

@BarbarraBay

1 day ago

the Dalai Lama was not driven out of Tibet. he chose to leave voluntarily. The Dalai Lama for many years was on a $180,000 per annum CIA payroll

@priyap1302

1 day ago (edited)

Dear DW, I am short of words to appreciate the work you do. I Never miss watching a single one.

Can you kindly try to expose "Brahma kumaris " (mount abu , india) or "Raja yoga"

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@l.w.paradis2108

1 hour ago

We do not live in the age of the great religions. We live in the age of capitalism, and capitalism permeates absolutely everything. You should expect every "spiritual leader," just like every other "leader," to be motivated by lust for money and power, and to be adroit at controlling others and hoarding wealth.

The purest souls are people you will never hear of.

@peterstanbridge2019

5 hours ago

Their leader obviously supported the abuse. Open your eyes.

@sonamdolkar4349

21 hours ago

There are several dimensions to the reality, being a Tibetan Buddhist it is extremely important to highlight these scandals by some lamas but one must not mix everything and present a documentary that lack serious objectivity regarding His Holiness the Dalai Lama and Tibet. One must not reduce His Holiness the Dalai Lama , everything he has done in the world in to such a shortsighted conclusion. DW needed to dig deeper or directly ask His Holiness. Just asking elder elite from Tibetan administration about Tibet and its culture vaguely shows lack of objectivity. We as a Tibetan and Buddhist condemn such crime and stand strong with victims but as a maker of such documentary you forgot one thing responsibility. Just because Tibet is lost cause for you guys doesn’t give you the legitimacy to reduced our life, our culture , our country like a random topic.

@katalahary

20 hours ago (edited)

One stingingly unbelievable thing about all religions and cults: sexual abuse. Why is that? There is a saying in Portuguese "foram queixar o porco ao javali". Calling on the Dalai Lama to fight these sexual activities is the equivalent of asking him to tell on himself...

@icedtea8547

1 day ago

All the victims can unite to form a secret organization and go after the perpetrators with guns. Just kidding. Justice be served!

@kasturiswami784

23 hours ago

Dalai Lama is more a political leader than a spiritual guru. He is very ambiguous when it comes to such issues. He does not like to ruffle western,mainly American Tibetan Buddhists,where dollars come from! In the end it is economics and politics.

@twitterrandoms4057

1 day ago

Reminds me of the famous christian apologist Ravi Zacharias

@tenzinlucky5091

13 hours ago

No doubt, the those who try to take sexual or any sort of advantage of their position should be condemned. However, dalai lama has condemned any such activities by anybody on several occasions. However, the recordings of personal meetings are not shown clearly. Come on, you are trying to assassinate dalai lama's character with some suspicious music with half baked evidence of him not responding properly as you wish him to be. Also you are trying to show the monks in general in a negative light by them holding guns during which thousands of Tibetans were butchere by the Chinese soldiers in Tibetan.

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@oyaan

18 hours ago

When the Dalai Lama kissed that child, I realized what atrocious things are going on in the inner palace in the name of Buddhist philosophy/religion! And all the crimes are going on under the cover of religion.

@misterniceguy67

5 hours ago

They must have learned something from the Catholic church.

@loanicastillo3327

6 hours ago (edited)

Old Catholicism is good. We had a lot of Saints who made miracles and lived with bare minimum. Some did not eat. If we knew we did not have to go to Asia. We already had all that in the Western tradicional church. We have Catholism. It is not necesary to go so far away from Home. God can teach you at Home. The safest place. Read about Padre Pío.

@suhailnazimudeen3466

1 hour ago

Why do they laugh when discussing something so serious and grave? Pissed me off 😡

@sakshirai8198

1 day ago

I have always associated Buddhism with peace and spirituality. But this video elucidated an ugly side of Buddhism that I wasn't ready to accept. Every religion has negatives...

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@BarbarraBay

1 day ago (edited)

another of the Dalai Lama's transgressor proteges is Lama Choedak Rinpoche, still masquerading as a 'Lama' or 'Teacher'.

@kastvet

16 hours ago

Buddhism is not a pyramid structure like the Catholic structure for several reasons. First, Buddhism does not have a centralized hierarchy with a supreme leader who has authority over all followers. Although there are prominent figures such as spiritual masters and monastery leaders, they do not have absolute power over Buddhist practitioners.

Instead, Buddhism is based on the principles and teachings of the Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama, who was not seen as a god or divine figure, but as an enlightened human being who shared his wisdom with others. Followers of Buddhism seek to follow the Buddha's example and practice his teachings in order to attain enlightenment.

As for the entity of the Dalai Lama, he is an important figure in the Tibetan Buddhist tradition. The Dalai Lama is considered the reincarnation of a lineage of spiritual and political leaders in Tibet. The Dalai Lama is believed to possess the wisdom and compassion necessary to guide Buddhist followers and promote the welfare of all living beings.

However, it is important to note that the Dalai Lama does not have authority over all Buddhists or over the different branches and schools of Buddhism. His influence and leadership extend primarily to the Tibetan Buddhist tradition and those who recognize his spiritual authority. The Dalai Lama has also become a symbol of peace, compassion, and interfaith dialogue throughout the world.

it is surprisingly sad to hear such a bad analysis of the Upayas, I think was made by an unskillful anthropologist.

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@klchin77

6 hours ago

This is foretold by buddha as the dharma ending age..

@lo-fi-meditation

1 day ago

The buggering of the students is clearly in the religion. Some lost people from a classic liberal democracy society discover a religion of a small feudal state from the Third World. Then these serf-owning feudal men move out to the West, where they now have all this power and status! What could go wrong, right? I really don't care if an adult choose to give these short feudal buggers (literally, so it seems) their money or a grown woman choose to sleep with her teacher. It's the children who are the only victims here. Dalai Lama gives me the creeps. I quite liked what Namkha said, he seemed the only intellectually honest lama.

How do you get 5 years suspended for SA of children?!!!

@msp5138

9 hours ago (edited)

The Dalai Lama is a politician.

And like all politicians he needs financial donations.

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@shatsamo-ty9sf

13 hours ago

Buddha said his followers that don’t follow blindly my teaching but thorough investigation and experiment .

@LouisaBuchholz

1 day ago

IMPRESSIVE😍🔥

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@ronlu2952

12 hours ago

Follow the teachings of any religion but never follow any human!

@1973lanyun

18 hours ago

In fact, the West has never dared to face the fact that Tibet was still a slavery society when the Dalai Lama was born. The Dalai Lama was also one of the slave owners. The so-called democratic religious leaders, how absurd!

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@theepicbookandbusman5208

1 day ago (edited)

Most of these so called Buddhist masters are from either Nyingmapa or Kagyupa where there is less discipline and more venture into the tantric practices.

Tibetan Buddhism suffers from the same problems that plague other religions and practitioners need to really dedicate enough time to research a guru. Don’t get fooled by their words.

Authentic masters are far away from the material accumulation project and in some cave in the Himalayas.

Victims should approach the authority in their own particular countries first as His Holiness the Dalai Lama is a refugee in India. The Students should do their own research before committing to any faith.

@MrJekyllDrHyde1

14 hours ago

This is what happens when people put way too much trust on religious figureheads.

With so much power, it must be very tempting for them to misuse the blind faith the followers have for them.

@attemptenacity8735

1 day ago

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children. Hosea 4:6

And I heard another voice out of heaven, saying, Come out of her, My people, that you do not participate in her sins and that you do not receive her plagues;

For her sins have accumulated up to heaven, and God has remembered her unrighteousnesses.

Pay her back even as she has paid, and double to her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix to her double. REVELATION 18:4-6

Lord Jesus, give Yourself to whomever reads this. Appear to them, enlighten them, draw them an compel them. Dear Lord Jesus, have mercy on them. Oh, Lord Jesus Christ. Amen

@hafunland894

13 hours ago (edited)

If God lives within EVER one of us, why do you need a guru? The power a guru has is enormous. If he is bad than he will inflict enormous suffering on his pupil(s). And ever man has an animal nature build into the DNA replicated biological machinery for a millennium. I have issues with faiths suppressing the animal urge in men to reproduce. I think this suppression leads some to perversion. I worry about why people feel the need to hand over their power to gurus. I think many people are very afraid of the external and internal worlds. Maybe it is best to get calm often and reach within on your own inner quests. I also worry about money given by people with good intention that ends up building fancy temples/churches/synagogues while many people in the world suffer from lack...

The Buddha said “Be a light unto oneself.” He did not say to blindly follow a guru.

@webinfomail

1 day ago

I don't trust anyone anymore

@user-ph7re9rr5m

18 hours ago (edited)

This documentary represents a typical Western orientalist view of the East and does not include interviews with any credible scholars of Tibetan Buddhism. The allegations of sexual misconduct involving certain Tibetan and Western Tibetan Buddhist lamas are unrelated to the Dalai Lama. It is important to note that the Dalai Lama does not hold the same authority as a pope and cannot dictate the behavior of all Tibetan or Western lamas. For instance, the Dalai Lama has spoken out against the practice of Shugden, but many Tibetan and Western Shugden followers do not heed his advice.

Therefore, this documentary's association of the Dalai Lama with sexual allegations and misconduct is disrespectful to both Tibetans and the Dalai Lama. It is crucial to recognize that there are multiple Buddhist sects within Tibetan Buddhism. In the documentary, the individuals accused of sexual abuse, both Tibetan and Western teachers, belong to the Nyingma sect. However, the documentary wrongly treats all Buddhist sects as if they are equally implicated in these allegations, which is akin to painting the Catholic Church and Protestantism with the same brush.

While it is essential to take allegations of sexual abuse seriously and investigate them within religious communities, it is unclear whether this particular documentary sheds light on the issue effectively. Instead, it appears to be primarily focused on attacking the Dalai Lama and Tibetan Buddhism as a whole

@kimjasmine7767

1 day ago

It seemed to happen in all the 3 mean world religion.

@Ai-he1dp

19 hours ago

There can only be one, and that one is our lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

@kalsangdrakpa4565

14 hours ago

Please Treat your dharma Guru as you treat your math teacher. Thank you.

@rajinish200

20 hours ago

Happens in every religion 😅 not NEW

@PraiseJesusThankGodAmen

1 day ago

I pray for everyone involved with the Holy Spirit HE knows everything and everyone personally in JESUS'S NAME Praise Jesus Thank God Amen 🙏🙏🙏

I also pray for everyone involved to find the light of JESUS in JESUS'S NAME Praise Jesus Thank God Amen 🙏🙏🙏🥳🙌🙌❤❤❤

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@vankhamvorasane989

14 hours ago

This first time i see so many girls go there i am a Buddhist but i never see so many young girls in the temple or stay there crazy

@oceanwoods

1 day ago

The reason the Dalai Lama refuses to make a statement, is because he is also a predator.

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@htl-x

1 day ago

Surely you must be incredibly lost soul and desperate to first assume an insignificant religion while not being part of you and then also give yourself, parents who are not real parents, to give up their children. What a terrible story. A leader who loses his eyesight to essential human exploitation in his own organization is disgracing. The world is hard and so it is. These kind of escapes do hardly ever bring salvation.

@anasshawakh1826

13 hours ago

Greaaat job Dw

Keep on

DW Documentary

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@Worldaffairslover

1 day ago

I’m surprised this happened in Buddhism, it’s the most peaceful religion by far. It’s something I expect from Islam with their child marriages and treating women like property

@hoale811

2 minutes ago

Spanish authorities should work together with france to find justice ..

@lamadanu

1 day ago (edited)

Organized religions are corpses of spirituality.

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@meetarunpillai1

1 day ago

I am not saying that Buddhism is free of any scandals and exploitation. But I will proudly say that it is the only religion that has the least exploitation and corruption.

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@kinngrimm2212

18 hours ago

By China annexing Tibet and the tibetian culture standing in front of an exodus while the western lacking in the 70' maybe more introspectives methods than nowadays, we welcomed them and for the most part that went well.

There are many cultural aspects like in Peru where there are regions where it is ok to marry of 9 year old girls where we find abhorrent, yet it is their way and ofcause they need to adept to our culture when living here and obey our laws just like the catholic church should. No idear if true what that one Lama claimed that all of this would be normal in Tibetian culture, but with the lack of pushback of the Dalia Lama i would imagin so. There maybe fear by the Dalai Lama that strong ressentiments against his people would lead to a complete loss of standing in nations where they had been welcomed sofar and taken refugee, still i would have expected more from him as now his people are not just tibetian people anylonger.

I have practised buddism for a few years, but just like with other organized relgions i feel not comfortable and selfidentify as an noncomformist agnostik nowadays. Historicly the celtic now more or less european sphere of influence had its own pagan relgion, which as we know was driven out after rome took over christian monotheism as a state reglion to keep the peace. Later on with sword and hexenhammer and the good book it spread further. I see all equally as invading religions of other culture, but anyone who practises them and has therefor an easier time in life i don't mind. Life as it is, is though enough without telling others what to believe or think.

One thing no matter the religion which i find shoking at times, is how easy it seems for people to trust people of religios demeanour with their childreen. Not just that their own weak minds looking for some guidances which fair enough they can do, but they give those who can't speak for themselves up for indoctrination and as seen worse.

@user-jw1bl4hq9j

14 hours ago

It’s all about influence and sex ….we know it already

@landerdequiroz

8 hours ago

Those who have a form of godliness are those who make an outward display of religion. They present themselves as godly, but it is all for show. There is no power behind their religion, as evidenced in the fact that their lives are unchanged. They speak of God and live in sin, and they are fine with that arrangement.

@ritch1125

22 hours ago (edited)

he's think kids never growth up..

he's think can do anything with kids

it's wrong

kid's will be growth up

and remember anything you do..

remember that.

@ZiN-ux7tn

3 hours ago

Monks are also human being as same as normal being till they not become awaked monk. This case look like Amber head vs John depp but In spiritual it is John depp who lost even he could win. So sad to sogyal rinpoche.

@amilashan5464

1 day ago

This is not a isolation problem around the world this is still happening, some people ignore this because they are so blinded by the religion. Religion manipulation.

@macatbongblues

17 hours ago

Lust is universal

@tenzinlucky5091

13 hours ago

Will you blame the vice chancellor of a university and the heads of colleges if few students turns out to be a criminal after graduation. And put whole responsibility of the bad behaviour of those criminals on the vice chancellor even when he says he will help but it should be a shared responsibility. Besides he always says questions his teachings and do vigorous test on his teachings. Once you are convinced then you believe or follow the person. @dw

@audreyang902

3 hours ago

Well said - Mr 7xz..

@jellybee218

2 hours ago

Why all these any surprise? Even the Dalai Lama has been abused as a child in the most holy of places in the Potala Palace.

@buzz5969

9 hours ago

Religion started our first ever WARS, ponder and let that sink in.😊

@gmat5586

1 day ago

"Energy zones!" Hey Lama quit stealing my moves!

@erisd8452

21 hours ago

The audio is out of sync with the video

@amilashan5464

1 day ago

This is not a isolation problem around the world this is still happening, some people ignore this because they are so blinded by the religion. Religion manipulation.

@bhaskkerrbpandey2347

19 hours ago

What’s the name of the track at the end playing in the background. ????😮

@ktcooki276

9 hours ago

"This is where I grew up"...lucky pup, says I. ?.one second later....oooohhh.

@eerievon2208

1 day ago

DW… the audio is not synced… wat happened..?

@fencerlacroix2512

16 hours ago

Did NOT know about this. WoW

@kasturiswami784

23 hours ago

Poor children easy prey

In India every religious leader is suspect in such abuse. In the name of religion there are many crimes committed. Rather be ia good atheist than corrupt reigeous person!

@highlander713

16 hours ago

😮😮😊😊🎉🎉

@meld6195

1 day ago

And he was also abusing women and children

@pechoelama2699

1 day ago

This is very old document,

@tenkun1480

15 hours ago

Don’t drag the Dalai Lama into this issue, he has nothing to do with the scandal.

@nabihahabibullah1577

15 hours ago

When the so-called religious persons thrive on sins , then they are Satan's followers not God's worshippers.

@0LOTR

21 hours ago

Human contaminates many of the teachings of the spiritual leaders, be it Buddha, Jesus or other. Follow not the human nor idolise anyone, this is Buddha's teaching. Ehi passiko, investigate, analyse, do not accept things on what you hear. So it is the same with learning from spiritual teachers. Blind faith is discouraged. Segregation of male and female was a very important rule in vinaya, not to discriminate, but to protect and prevent such incidence. Only follow those who abide strictly to the Teaching.

@Amanda-jd8xs

1 day ago

Nothing is sacred. Nowhere is safe.

@kerianawilson

11 hours ago (edited)

Noooo! Abuse within religion??! Unheard of!!!!! 😂😂😂

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@sarahnyambura1634

1 day ago

After we saw Dalai Lama kissing a young boy ,he equally as bad

@rodmarker2071

1 day ago

Religion ? just don't do it

It's a great sale

no one comes back to say --- there is nothing there

@ToudaHell

1 day ago

Religion is more trouble than its worth

@conspiracytheory4457

1 day ago

What a cult

@Sean-EmeraldImportco

19 hours ago

A Buddhist Elitist.....Imagine that...

@30506070

1 day ago

Looks like "Vondo"s are everywhere...

@tibetanization

12 hours ago

westerners are the one willingly join the Buddhists centre n unknown lamas among Tibetans n when things didn’t work out all the blames goes out to Dalai Lama as if his holiness involves in all those mischievous acts!!!Do u think his holiness got all the time go through all process when he is the only one well known tibetan leader looking after Tibetans who are just trying to survive in exile; Trying to help the Tibetan orphanage, providing educations, accommodations, health centres. Many Tibetans in exile are surviving due to his holiness blessing. Take your personal issues to the court to respective personal who is accountable to the act. Leave Dalai Lama alone.

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@susanohnhaus611

6 hours ago

Religion is the root of all evil. Not money. Not the love of money. It's religion.

@artm8dk

1 day ago

Not so different from the catolic church !

@manjurhasanchisti2264

1 day ago

Pls chk what Dalai lama is doing.

@juqnvasil6104

1 day ago

The lama also works with nixium

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@timesnepal8108

1 day ago

Oh what a sin in the name of buddha, its not buddhism its something esle. Real budhhist can and never dare to commit such sin 😢😢😢😢

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@TheBackpacker26

1 day ago

It's base of your proof...?? In india or world crores of people have minimum one single photo with dalai lama in their lifetime , not only Buddhist missionary yes it's right I think they give special treatment to those people connect with them in religious work, but normal people also connect with these celebrities nowdays it's cultural nowdays if they know them or not , they doesn't care about their work ...

@Dr.Engr005

1 day ago (edited)

One piece of info: Buddhism is not a religion. It was just an idea of good living. Because religion is mandatory to belong to the Almighty God, Buddhism does not have such a concept.

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@dejal.3606

1 day ago

F.....He just 555 in everythings.

@jaydev8148

20 hours ago

West cant comprehend eastern religion or philosophy, if an western says he has converted to eastern religion and now some guru or Lama is full bulshit

@mikelion2743

23 hours ago

IF these Lama's taught the Buddha's teachings and not Tibetan Buddhist Culture there wouldn't be so many problems.

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@aniasacrario9993

1 day ago

This actions is just a cover up for other operations.

@nycalien

1 day ago (edited)

ok... One thing this documentary doesn't say is this is only in Tibetan Buddhism, which was derived from the Zen Buddhism. Theravada Buddhism is something totally different than Mahayana Buddhism. Matter of fact they made up Mahayana Buddhism because they couldn't let go the sexual desires. The core of the Buddhism is not thought in Zen Buddhism. No wonder this happened. Very sorry for the victims.

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@Zoemin

10 hours ago

Wait! At 26:23, they cut the full sentence

@mathambassador7714

10 hours ago (edited)

DW, you need to change the title of this documentary to something like “How people use Buddhism to abuse”. The current title is misleading because NO genuine Buddhist teacher would behave like those lamas in this video. What do you want the Holy Dalai Lama to do?! He has tried everything he could in his power, but at the end of the day, who can stop those phony lamas and fake Buddhist teachers in this world if there still are many people who blindly follow them. The Buddha always said to research and to analyze any teachings even his own teachings before believing in them. So, please do not blame people’s behaviors on Buddhism.

@denisedecarlo9311

1 day ago

Dalai Lama making jokes about it is not funny and really inappropriate

@madhudean769

18 hours ago

Very shameful behaviour from dalai lama, laughing and joking......😢🤮

@IbneAdam02

16 hours ago

Buddhist ☕

@BarbarraBay

1 day ago (edited)

38:26 What she is speaking is not Buddhism. It is Lamaism. The Buddha simply gave a person a teaching and the person went away & practised the teaching. Guruism is not Buddhism.

@vlocke706

1 day ago

We caught him camera asking a kid to kiss his tongue

@soulgeistsearch

23 hours ago

unfortunately ... the dalai lama is one of those .... he lost his reputation long long long time ago ... he showed to the world his real self ....

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@DannyChean

21 hours ago

Well, if you are shocked by these practices, wait till you do a little research on Tibetan serfdom, virgin skin drums and stuff. You are warned.

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@indigenousnorwegianeuropa4145

1 day ago

Hahaha

@otiyacot

1 day ago

Esos guías espirituales, siempre estarán a favor de las autoridades de sus religiones, PASE LO QUE PASE, DIGANSE LO QUE SE DIGA, sea en el budismo o el catolicismo. Son verdaderas tapaderas de sus clubes de criminales.

DW Documentary

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@wsmithe2209

1 day ago (edited)

What do you expect from these former slave owners? They would do what they used to do when they had slaves serving them. There are more stories like this coming out in the future.

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@bingeltube

1 day ago

Video too long, did not watch! Please summarize and shorten!

@gkukel

1 day ago (edited)

One thing to clear here. His Holiness never used religion to get political gain. When He gives religious teaching, He never says a single word that's political, not even a word CHINA is mentioned while giving teachings.

I agree there may be some fake spiritual master, but in Buddhism, especially Vanrayana, it's clearly said that one should always check his or her teacher before receiving any teaching and the true guru also should check his disciple whether he is worthy of receiving the teaching or not. Even Buddha Himself emphasized, "ONE SHOULD ALWAYS DO THOROUGH INVESTIGATION BY USING HIS OR HER INTELLIGENCE WHETHER TO FOLLOW OR NOT, EVEN MY OWN TEACHINGS. ACCEPT IT IF IT PASS YOUR INVESTAGATION. "

Edit : once in a big gathering in Bodhgaya, His Holiness The Karmapa also emphasize to check your teacher thoroughly, if you found something which you think is not appropriate then better leave or ignore without saying any bad thing, just leave. Further, He advised just like a person who check on a horse before buying it like the speed, age, agility etc., the would be teacher should also be checked.

An example, the encounter of Rechungma, one of the greatest disciple of Milarepa. When Milarepa was begging for alms and came across a house, an intelligent and wise woman, came out to offer alm. As was His nature, Milarepa gave some teachings on reality (I can't exactly remeber), at that she asked lots of questions. Milarepa thought this lady is wise, so after lots of questions and answers, she gained some devotion and she asked, "who are you? ", "I'm Milarepa" at that she fell on His feet because she only heard about Him,, haven't seen in person.

Now if some other country or nation want to use His Holiness as their political gain, that's a different thing. I noticed many a time, lots of countries remember Tibetan issue and His Holiness whenever they have to deal with China, like inviting Tibetan leaders on their TV shows and raising Tibetan issue, rest of the time they are silent, they never show or mentioned about more than 159 Tibetan self immolation, whereabout of young Penchan Lama, nothing, just silence.

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@vajraheart6052

17 hours ago

As a Tibetan, for sure I sympathize with the victims and abusers should be condemned but defaming Dalai Lama and hurting the Tibetan cause, using only filtered information and not knowing the full history is not fair. Then this becomes another propaganda material. Also quoting ex Tibetan Buddhist and now critic Stephen Batchelor is not correct.

Dalai Lama doesn’t have much authority over the other Tibetan Buddhist sects except his own Gelug, and much less without a country. Gelug is the biggest and I would say account for 75% of all Tibetan Buddhists as Mongolia is almost all Gelug, you don’t hear any sexual abuse scandals and there is nothing on this documentary on Gelug centres or clergy. Dalai Lama clearly stated multiple times publicly, if you find abuse, make it public and use laws to the fullest to go after the abusers. As a refugee without a country he meets anyone who wants to meet and tries to attend anyone inviting him so him attending these centres is nothing shocking.

So it’s almost like asking the Pope to condemn another Christian denominations actions.

This is really unfair reporting by DW to put Dalai Lama in bad light and thus hurting the Tibetan cause. What exactly did Dalai Lama do wrong given he has no authority over all Tibetan Buddhist sects and meets everyone. Stephen Batchelor knows.

@YuruCampSupermacy

1 day ago

i am glad this was covered especially after how dalai lama abused that little kid on camera.

@kasthupten13

38 minutes ago

You have problem with Buddhism than go to other religions one person problem than y u blame all Buddhism

@angharadllewellyn2192

1 day ago

Why do people believe this stuff?? Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

@zang56

17 hours ago

DW is a Chinese paid media 😂😂

@OrdinaryAlien

22 hours ago

The stupid laugh of the DL is appaling. But then again this is a guy who kisses a boy on the lips right in front of cameras... Never understood the fuss about him and the world´s enthusiasm towards him. Very fishy guy...

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@jigmedable

1 day ago

DW wrong notion please change it.

@billc6762

13 hours ago

God is God. God does not ask for anything from you but faith. Church is a business. Church ask for your money.

@BarbarraBay

1 day ago (edited)

34:52 these are not Buddhist norms. They are Tibetan norms. The speaker here is brainwashed.

@ronhofer1444

1 day ago

What joke

@dominicdmello7531

1 day ago

Didn't know that these practices even existed among Buddhist. Sheds new light on the recent scandal of the Dalai Lama sticking his tongue into a young boys mouth

@billmcgoon9991

1 day ago

Hebrews 4: 12 - 13

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@travelerbryan2007

9 hours ago

There is only one way to Salvation and Eternal Life after we die on Earth........That is only n only LORD JESUS CHRIST...He is the way, the truth and the Life.......No one enter heaven without him...Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour today and you will Know who is Real God!

@salihakkaya6534

1 day ago

😏Dalai Lama s kid kissing action needs to explanation aswell

@jessicawinslet684

1 day ago

Religion LOL

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@user-yu2ps5eq6o

6 hours ago

this is a religious cult

@thomasmeyers

18 hours ago

The famous quote by Linji Yixuan applies here. "If you meet the Buddha on the road, k*ll him." Buddhahood lies within, seeking it externally will amount to failure.

* used since typing the real word seems to invoke the algorithm to remove my comment. Let's see if this works.

@tawan20082008

21 hours ago

cult or buddha , or buddhism , is no different than other cults

@oicatsenadlor6148

12 hours ago

only Jesus can save us..the leader of budism was died while Jesus died and rose after 3 days ...John 3:16

@locnguyen607

1 day ago

Haha religions at it again.

@denisedecarlo9311

1 day ago

the Dalai Lama himself has abuse issues OMG

@alisheransari2454

1 day ago

sympathy with DaLaii LammA.

As well as Victims.

@antonycarles1499

20 hours ago

How about mingyur rinpoche ? Is he clean ? I

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@ryanamaugsc

1 day ago

Athiest watching

@getblacked1351

1 day ago (edited)

didnt he (lama guy) toungued a child? maybe thats what buddhism is all about HAHAHA

@frankskoda-simmons

1 day ago (edited)

14:57-15:23 Laughing like a drain? Why? What is so funny about all that?

What a bunch of criminals hiding behind the façade of religion, enlightenment, piety and "spirituality".

@Daniels201

18 hours ago

What delai lama contribute to the world?

@emmanuelameyaw9735

22 hours ago

Worship no man...is something wrong with you?

@phloxdiffusa

16 hours ago

Just attend a good university for 4 years and get a degree in ecology or biology and become enlichened. Throw off the temptation of religion to be enshackled.

@paulverdon4362

1 day ago

just another religion

@mkkrupp2462

1 day ago

What was so great about Tibet anyway?

@Yaupiak

19 hours ago

the dalai lama is wrong...we staunch buddhists no play politics! our soul shud be empty, full of light

@lettucesalad3560

1 day ago

CCP: What's wrong with doing this to people?

1 reply

@billyyee7019

20 hours ago

Damai Lama learn Kamasutra while residing in India. That is why their disciples are $@x maniacs

@-_-.0001

1 day ago

Dw , tell me how much did china pay you for this 😅😅

@JaneDoe-ql7sc

1 day ago

feels like this is CCP propaganda

@Ellie-br2kt

1 day ago

Sogyal 🐖

@williamtell5365

22 hours ago

Buddhism has never been above suspicion and it isn't really a religion, by the way.

@createinmeacleanheartohgod6871

9 hours ago

Did you see Dalai Lama kissing lips to lips with a boy lately??

@mrblurblur2003

15 hours ago

Why don't you go ask the Catholics priest what they did?

@fizasiddiqui3163

3 hours ago

Manipur

@js718

1 day ago

@4:00 Wdup

@KirsyReeds-yj3qj

1 day ago

End of August

@pluraltest9242

18 hours ago

This is why I have no religion Christianity, Buddhism, Islam there’s this issue; religion is no different from a cult

2 replies

@ShyGun

19 hours ago

How do you think Sogyal R. attracts and collected donation from big sponsors ? by drinking soda?? drink plain water?? grow up boyz. there are 4 main lineages in Tibet and if you keen morality you should follow Gelugpa. Sogyal was Nyingma master.

2 replies

@IWannaBeFamous647

1 day ago

I think the Dalai Lama learned that from India GayHind

@orawancarlile6192

1 day ago (edited)

Sound like a cult more than a religion. Namkha is not a Lama because he still keeps his hair while all the real ones shave their heads.

1 reply

@hectorkeezy1633

1 day ago

Lama ? He is more like a camel.

@Ravi-ot6xj

1 day ago

So basically just two abusers and you blamed the entire religion. Compare that with catholic church.

@user-ld1ys9cc9b

1 day ago

Quite normal for Lamaism/Tibetan Buddhism.

4 replies

@jeaniel1004

17 hours ago

I never liked the Dalai Lama. He was not an enlightened person. He was simply groomed to be a political leader. his comments were vacuous and silly. Look how laughs at this issue of sexual abuse., Did no one suspect HIM?

@KirsyReeds-yj3qj

1 day ago

La Vega s

@donnadonna6813

4 hours ago

CCP Propaganda

@PaulMoses-gj2sq

23 hours ago

Cults and Lies. ALL RELIGION

1 reply

@Ibnu.Hassan

1 day ago

Islam ☝☝☝

1 reply

Sogyal Rinpoche Dies; Tibetan Buddhist Lama Felled by Abuse Accusations - The New York Times

Sogyal Rinpoche Dies; Tibetan Buddhist Lama Felled by Abuse Accusations - The New York Times

Sogyal Rinpoche Dies; Tibetan Buddhist Lama Felled by Abuse Accusations

A friend of the Dalai Lama’s, he wrote a popular book about life, death and the afterlife that updated “The Tibetan Book of the Dead.”
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The Dalai Lama, left, and France’s former first lady, Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, with Sogyal Rinpoche in 2008. A teacher and best-selling author, Sogyal Rinpoche abruptly retired after several students accused him of sexual, physical and emotional abuse.Credit...Pascal Guyot/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

By Richard Sandomir
Published Sept. 1, 2019Updated Sept. 3, 2019

Sogyal Rinpoche, a charismatic Tibetan Buddhist teacher and best-selling author who abruptly retired after several of his students accused him of multiple acts of sexual, physical and emotional abuse, died on Aug. 28 in a hospital in Thailand. He was in his early 70s.

The cause was a pulmonary embolism, his care team announced. He had received a diagnosis of colon cancer in September 2017.

Two months earlier, his reputation as a popular teacher of Buddhism and longtime friend of the Dalai Lama’s unraveled when eight students wrote a damning, heart-rending letter that outlined allegations of years of abuse by Sogyal Rinpoche against them.

“Why did you inflict violence upon us and our fellow Dharma brothers and sisters?” they wrote, describing incidents that had set him off, like his food not being hot enough, his assistant being inattentive or his girlfriends upsetting him. (Sogyal Rinpoche was not a monk.)

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“Your public face is one of kindness, humor, warmth and compassion,” they added, “but your private behavior, the way you conduct yourself behind the scenes, is deeply disturbing and unsettling.”

The letter led Sogyal Rinpoche to step down as the spiritual director of his organization, Rigpa, an international network of Buddhist learning centers, and enter a “period of retreat and reflection.”

The Dalai Lama rebuked him. “Now he is disgraced,” the Dalai Lama said.

Sogyal Rinpoche was born as Sonam Gyaltsen Lakar in 1947 in Kham, in eastern Tibet, and studied under various Tibetan Buddhist masters like Jamyang Khyentse Chökyi Lodrö.

After fleeing with his family to India from the occupying Chinese Army in 1955, he was educated in Catholic and Anglican schools. He left for England to study comparative religion at Trinity College, Cambridge, but did not graduate.

Along the way, he merged the first two letters of his first name and first four letters of his middle name into Sogyal, and took on the surname Rinpoche, an honorific title for lama.

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Sogyal Rinpoche in 2003 in Paris. His 1992 book, “The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying,” was his effort to update and expand “The Tibetan Book of the Dead,” an ancient religious text.Credit...Joel Robine/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

A compelling speaker who was fluent in English, Sogyal Rinpoche taught and gave seminars around the world and wrote “The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying” (1992), a best seller with a foreword by the Dalai Lama.

The book was Sogyal Rinpoche’s effort to update and expand “The Tibetan Book of the Dead,” an ancient religious text. In clear prose, he linked life, death and the afterlife, and detailed a path to enlightenment with meditation, generosity and strengthening one’s karma.

“Our state of mind at the time of death can influence the quality of our next rebirth,” he wrote. “So at the moment of death, in spite of the great variety of karmas we have accumulated, if we make a special effort to generate a virtuous state of mind, we may strengthen and activate a virtuous karma and so bring about a happy rebirth.”

In a review of the book in The New York Times, the religion writer Philip Zaleski praised Sogyal Rinpoche’s “attempts to unriddle life” and wrote that he had delivered a Tibetan version of “The Divine Comedy.”

“One could imagine,” Mr. Zaleski wrote, “that this is what Dante might have written had he been a Buddhist metaphysician rather than a Christian poet.”

The book found a fan in the comic actor John Cleese, who helped narrate the audio version.

“What touches me most greatly about him is his humor,” Mr. Cleese said when he introduced Sogyal Rinpoche at an event in London in 1992. “I thought I could say a few words as a sort of incarnate lama’s warm-up man.”

Two years later, Sogyal Rinpoche had a supporting role as a monk in “Little Buddha” (1994), a film by Bernardo Bertolucci about an American boy believed to be the reincarnation of an important lama. Mr. Bertolucci called Sogyal Rinpoche a “fantastic writer,” in an interview with The Indianapolis Star.

And, Mr. Bertolucci said, “He’s so hysterical.”

But that year, a woman who identified herself only as Janice Doe filed a $10 million civil suit in Superior Court in California, accusing Sogyal Rinpoche of sexually and emotionally abusing her. They settled out of court.

More than two decades later, his students’ accusations prompted his organization, Rigpa, to hire a British law firm, Lewis Silkin, to investigate their claims. The investigation upheld much of what they had said and concluded that “senior individuals within Rigpa” had left students at risk by failing to address what they knew of Sogyal Rinpoche’s behavior.

One student told the firm that Sogyal Rinpoche had beaten him more than 200 times over a four-year period. “If he was in a bad mood, he would beat me every day, or more than once a day,” the student was quoted as saying in the firm’s report. After a falling out with a girlfriend, he would “slam the door and punch me in the guts.”

Sogyal Rinpoche declined to be interviewed during the investigation. But in a letter that he sent to the investigator, he did not admit to abusing the students.

“I find it very hard to recognize myself in the descriptions in the letter and the picture that it paints,” he wrote. “It distresses me that my actions and intentions could have been misunderstood and characterized in this way.”

Richard Sandomir is an obituaries writer. He previously wrote about sports media and sports business. He is also the author of several books, including “The Pride of the Yankees: Lou Gehrig, Gary Cooper and the Making of a Classic.” More about Richard Sandomir

Sogyal Rinpoche beat members of his inner circle on a daily basis and coerced young followers into sex | The Canberra Times | Canberra, ACT

Sogyal Rinpoche beat members of his inner circle on a daily basis and coerced young followers into sex | The Canberra Times | Canberra, ACT

Sogyal Rinpoche beat members of his inner circle on a daily basis and coerced young followers into sex
By Joanne McCarthy
December 12 2019

Sanctuary: Sogyal Rinpoche walks along Blueys Beach during one of his summer visits to the Myall Lakes area.

SOGYAL Rinpoche was a charismatic Buddhist leader and friend of the Dalai Lama who taught the "fast path to enlightenment" for decades, and retreated to a luxury Myall Lakes sanctuary for summer with much younger girlfriends and female "lama care" attendants in his entourage.

He wrote the best-selling The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, had celebrity followers, and epitomised the idea of Buddhism as "the good religion", as Christianity struggled with child sexual abuse and Islamic extremists made war with their own people and the West.

The "incarnation of a Buddhist visionary saint" and founder of global Buddhist network Rigpa had a "lama care team" of young, unpaid female students who cooked and dressed him, slept on the floor in his room to be on-call at night, massaged him to sleep and even attended to him in the toilet.

Sogyal told followers in centres across Australia, including Newcastle, that "I do everything for your benefit. Don't resist; trust. If you resist, you're very stupid."

Now Rigpa is facing a fresh round of questions after seven weeks of prayers and ceremonies to mark Sogyal's death in August, aged 72, with only vague reference to the serious physical, sexual and psychological abuse scandal exposed in 2017 by eight former Rigpa followers, including some Australians.

Some of the abuse occurred at Rigpa's Myall Lakes and Blueys Beach centres. Rigpa's global leaders were on notice of abuse from as early as 1992, barrister Karen Baxter found in September, 2018 after investigating the allegations for Rigpa Fellowships in the United Kingdom and United States.

Legacy: Charismatic Buddhist teacher and founder of global Buddhist network, Rigpa, Sogyal Rinpoche, whose death in August has sparked fresh criticisms from victims of Sogyal's abuse. Picture: Quentin Jones.

Sogyal used attendants as "a punching bag to vent his own frustrations and anger"; "used his position to coerce, intimidate and manipulate young women into giving him sexual favours"; asked a male attendant to take film and photos of young female students and girlfriends naked; offered a female student to another lama for sex and pushed students to the verge of emotional breakdown, Ms Baxter found.

A senior male Rigpa leader from outside Australia engaged in a "proactive cover-up" of abuse allegations dating back to the 1990s, she found.

"I uphold the allegation that, for many years, there has been nobody within Rigpa holding Sogyal (Rinpoche) to account," Ms Baxter found.

Her 12 recommendations include reporting allegations to police, funding professional counselling for abuse victims, serious reforms to Rigpa's governance and structure, zero tolerance of student abuse and a ban on sexual contact between "master" and student, removing leaders connected to the "harmful events" and replacing them with people who "can credibly lead the program of changes required".

Beaten: An Australian former Buddhist nun in Newcastle to speak at a religion and violence conference. A 2018 investigation report substantiated her allegations that she was beaten on a daily basis by Buddhist teacher Sogyal Rinpoche. Picture: Marina Neil.

An Australian woman and former nun who suffered horrendous physical abuse by Sogyal between 2006 and 2010, including having her ear torn by him as he raged about a calendar, said young victims of serious sexual abuse in Australia, and others who had been physically assaulted by him, had not come forward.

"Australia was where a lot of the sexual abuse took place because he said this was his retreat. It was sort of like a sex-fest for him," said the former nun, who was introduced to Rigpa in 1996 at the Myall Lakes retreat, and joined Sogyal's inner circle five years later as his household manager, aged 29.

By late 2010 she left Rigpa, and by 2017 she was one of eight people attempting to hold the organisation to account for what she believes were Sogyal's criminal acts against vulnerable people, where his abuse was excused, minimised and justified as the "crazy wisdom" of a "master" physically stepping in to point out a person's deficiencies while they were fast-tracked to enlightenment.

"I was like the abused scapegoat dog in the room," the former nun said after speaking at a University of Newcastle Religion and Violence conference last week.

"If one of his girlfriends was at their limit, he would hit me instead. Between 2006 and 2010 I was beaten over 200 times. At one stage he had fallen out with his girlfriend. He would meet her daily, come back, slam the door and punch me in the guts."

She told Ms Baxter she saw one student knocked unconscious during one of Sogyal's rages, and Sogyal bit through his own lip and drew blood on one occasion as he beat her and three other students.

Ms Baxter noted a recording where Sogyal can be "clearly heard" telling the former nun that "It's like each time I hit you, I want you also remember that you're closer to me. The harder I hit you, the deeper the connection."

Another witness told of a very young woman attendant "reduced to a frightened, jelly-like person" because of the "gruelling, ferocious, constant beatings" she received.

A male witness and close aide to Sogyal, who was subjected to severe and regular physical abuse at Myall Lakes, said the guru grabbed a metal stupa during one rage and "went to hit me in the head with it".

Author: A younger Sogyal Rinpoche speaks to followers in 1998 after the launch of his book, The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying, which sold millions of copies around the world. Picture: Jacky Ghossein.

"He stopped and backed off. I thought if he hit me with that... I might never get up," he told Ms Baxter.

The former nun strongly criticised Rigpa's response to Ms Baxter's report, and said the veneration of Sogyal after his death of cancer on August 28 showed an organisation failing to recognise its role in facilitating his abuse for years. The veneration was another block to his victims coming forward and seeking help, the former nun said.

Rigpa issued a September, 2018 statement after Ms Baxter's report was published, noting "allegations of misconduct" against Sogyal, but failing to record they were serious allegations of sexual, physical and psychological abuse, and the majority were substantiated.

Rigpa felt "deeply sorry" and apologised "for the hurt experienced by past and present members of the Rigpa community", but failed to make public its history of knowledge of abuse by Sogyal and the "proactive cover-up" finding against one of its most senior members.

Rigpa was "contemplating on our role as an organisation, and how we may have contributed to this situation", the global network said.

The former nun compared the veneration of Sogyal after his death with the veneration and fast-tracked sainthood of Pope John Paul II, as inquiries around the world strongly criticised the Catholic leader's role in covering-up decades of child sexual abuse.

"What Rigpa has not said anywhere is that this abuse happened, it shouldn't have happened and 'We failed'," the former nun said.

"There are people in Rigpa who have actively covered this up and discredited victims. It would be really nice if Rigpa made a clear public statement saying 'Sogyal abused many vulnerable people and we let it happen for years'.

Future: Rigpa Australia chair and retired Newcastle GP Kathryn James in 2007. Picture: Natalie Grono.

"But that's not what's happened. The moment we spoke up he was elevated even higher.

"People have identified Tibetan Buddhism as pure, that this is the one hope for religion, but that's made them blind to the fact the same things that have happened in the Catholic Church have happened here."

In her report Ms Baxter acknowledged the possibility of "many" other victims or witnesses of abuse who have not come forward.

The silence is in part due to Buddhist teachings, where speaking out against a master "appears to require a willingness to 'step off the path to enlightenment', and many are not ready to do that", Ms Baxter said.

Rigpa Fellowship Australia Inc suffered a collapse in financial support between 2017 and 2018, a report filed with the Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission shows.

Revenue dropped from $1.47 million in 2017 to $771,000 the following year - including a drop in donations from $507,000 to $128,000.

The Blueys Beach centre is listed in Europe as a holiday rental after Rigpa called for expressions of interest in April for the $1.5 million "sacred home", that was "blessed with the practice of Sogyal Rinpoche".

Described as "one of the most holy places of Rigpa worldwide" in a sale document, the Blueys Beach centre has been granted tax deduction status as a school building.

Rigpa Australia was "obliged to sell the property... owing to its current financial situation", the sale document said.

Warning: University of Newcastle religion and gender lecturer Dr Kathleen McPhillips.

Priority would be given to Rigpa member buyers willing to bequest the property back to Rigpa and allow visiting lamas to stay.

University of Newcastle sociologist of religion and gender, Dr Kathleen McPhillips, said she attended a Newcastle Town Hall event where Sogyal Rinpoche spoke and "it was shocking to me to see the physical deference lay people showed to him".

"In Buddhism there's no concept of God but Sogyal Rinpoche was seen as more than human."

Excusing and minimising Sogyal's assaults as "crazy wisdom", or as part of a tradition of a "master" confronting a student to help them find a "path to enlightenment", was "really dangerous" because of the unquestioning obedience expected and imbalance of power, Dr McPhillips said.

"The way in which Buddhism is viewed is that it's the 'good' religion and the answer for people wanting to live in a material society. There's a lot invested in protecting that reputation."

Ms Baxter found a senior Rigpa leader, based outside Australia, was so devoted to Sogyal that he "refused to accept the possibility that anything Sogyal had done might have been wrong".

When abuse allegations were raised the leader, from as early as 1992 and repeatedly until 2017, "was not really concerned about whether these things happened, but seems to have been prepared to accept that Sogyal intended no harm, regardless of what happened", Ms Baxter found.

Sogyal declined to be interviewed for the investigation, but in a statement in 2018 said: "I am a human being doing my best to follow the Buddha's teachings and I have never knowingly set out to harm anyone".

Rigpa Australia chair and retired Newcastle GP Dr Kathryn James said the global network's governance structure and processes meant it could not respond to questions until next week.

After the investigation report was published Rigpa leaders in the UK, Germany and France stood down, a Vision Board was appointed, a code of conduct was published and grievance council established.

In a statement in April, 2018, before Ms Baxter's report, the Vision Board acknowledged that "Some of us remain deeply devoted to Sogyal Rinpoche and will continue to follow his teachings."

만월대 남북공동발굴 '12년' 기록, 국민께 보고합니다 - 오마이뉴스

만월대 남북공동발굴 '12년' 기록, 국민께 보고합니다 - 오마이뉴스

만월대 남북공동발굴 '12년' 기록, 국민께 보고합니다[인터뷰] '개성만월대 디지털기록관' 추진한 김경순·심성보... "교사분들, 꼭 활용해주세요"

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최규화(somecrud)

공감66 댓글6 남북 간 대화의 문이 닫힌 지 2년이 돼갑니다. 만월대 조사는, 때때로 남북관계 경색의 격랑 속에서도 신뢰와 대화로 12년간 줄기차게 이어져 온 남북교류협력 사업이라는 점에서 그 의미가 큽니다. 특히 그 결과를 '디지털 기록관' 형태로 국민에게 공개하는 것은 전에 없던 일입니다.발굴에 12년, 기록관 구축에 4년이라는 시간이 걸렸습니다. 그 시간 동안 이 일을 끈질기게 밀고 온 사람들의 이야기를 들어보고 싶었습니다. 이는 향후 남북 간 교류의 문을 다시 여는 데에도 많은 영감과 동기를 줄 것입니다.[기자말]

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"만월대 디지털 기록관은 남북 교류협력 사업이 '퍼주기'가 아니라 의미 있는 곳에 돈을 쓰는 일이라는 걸 확인시켜주는 거죠. 국민들에게, 그리고 미래세대에게 보고한다는 마음으로 만들었습니다."

만월대 기록관 구축사업의 책임을 맡은 심성보 명지대 기록정보과학전문대학원 객원교수의 말이다. '개성 만월대 남북공동발굴 디지털 기록관'(www.manwoldae.org, 이하 만월대 기록관)이 지난 22일 개관했다.

개성 만월대는 약 1100년 전 세워진 고려태조 왕건의 궁궐터다. '개성 만월대 남북공동발굴조사'(이하 만월대 조사)는 2007년부터 2018년까지 추진돼왔다. 남북 공동조사단은 8차에 걸친 조사로 궁궐 건물지 40여 동을 확인했고 금속활자 및 청자, 장식기와 등 유물 1만 7900점을 발굴했다.

냉탕과 온탕을 오가는 안갯속 같은 남북관계 속에서도 12년간 꾸준히 이어져 온 민간교류. 만월대 조사 사업은 '디지털 기록관' 개관을 통해 또 다른 시작의 가능성을 열었다. 만월대 기록관 구축사업은 만월대 조사 사업의 성과와 의미를 국민과 공유하기 위해 통일부와 남북역사학자협의회가 2017년부터 추진해왔다.

지난 20일 서울 신문로1가 남북역사학자협의회에서 심 교수와 김경순 남북역사학자협의회 기획홍보부장을 만났다. 김 부장은 만월대 조사 초기부터 지원 역할을 맡아왔다. 아래는 두 사람과 나눈 인터뷰를 일문일답으로 정리한 것이다.

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▲ 만월대 기록관 구축사업의 책임을 맡은 심성보 명지대 기록정보과학전문대학원 객원교수
ⓒ 최규화

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2007년 첫 조사... 정부가 진보적이든 보수적이든, 만월대 사업은 계속됐다

- 어떻게 해서 남북 공동발굴조사 대상지가 개성 만월대로 선정됐나요?

김경순(이하 김) : "2005년 북측에서 개성역사유적지구의 유네스코 세계유산 등재를 추진했어요. (2013년 만월대를 포함한 개성역사유적지구는 유네스코 세계유산으로 지정됐다. - 기자 주) 그해 11월 '개성역사지구 세계문화유산 등재를 위한 남북공동 학술토론회 및 유적답사'가 개최됐고, 공동발굴 조사도 제안됐죠. 2006년 2월에 만월대가 적합하겠다는 의견이 제시됐고 이어 6월에 조사 합의서가 채택됐어요.

2007년 첫 조사에 들어갈 때는 개성공단도 초창기여서 인프라가 많지 않았어요. 조사단이 한번 들어가면 짧아도 두 달은 머물러야 하는데 생활이 가능할지 고민이 많았어요. 하지만 개성공단을 중심으로 협력과 평화의 기운이 형성돼 있었고, 부족하지만 공단 건설공사를 진행 중이던 현대아산에서 컨테이너 숙소를 제공해줘서 가능해졌어요."

심성보(이하 심) : "만월대 조사의 시작은 노무현 정부 때였잖아요. 노무현, 이명박, 박근혜, 문재인 정부까지 이어져 온 남북협력 사업이 만월대 조사와 겨레말큰사전 편찬사업 정도밖에 없어요. 이른바 진보적 정부든 보수적 정부든, 만월대 조사 사업은 부정할 수 없는 남북협력 사업으로 자리매김하고 있었던 거죠."

- 만월대 기록관 구축은 언제부터 추진돼온 건가요?

심 : "발굴한 유물은 북측에 두고 사진, 영상, 3D 스캔 자료는 남북이 공유하기로 했지만, 그 데이터들을 마땅히 정리할 방법을 찾지 못해서 외장하드디스크에 그저 쌓아뒀어요. 2017년에 디지털 아카이브 사업을 해보자는 데 통일부가 동의하면서, 우선 자료 정리 사업을 하게 된 게 만월대 기록관의 시작이었어요.

그동안 쌓인 60만 개 파일을 정리한 다음에, 자료를 학술적으로 활용하기 위해서 유구 DB와 유물 DB를 구축했죠. 그다음 디지털 아카이브로 만들기 위해서 IT나 그래픽 등 다른 분야의 전문가들이 투입됐어요. 크게 보면 자료 정리 → 유구·유물 DB 구축 → 디지털 아카이브 구축 순으로 4년 동안 진행됐죠.

보고서나 도록을 만드는 데 사용된 파일들을 잘 정리해서 이후에도 체계적으로 활용하자는 생각이 있었어요. 그 고민이 유구·유물 DB를 만들자는 걸로 이어졌고, 그런 식으로 우리 스스로 사업을 키운 거죠. 예산은 제한돼 있었기 때문에, 당시 작업에 참여한 분들의 시간과 노력을 쥐어짜서 만든 겁니다.(웃음)"

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▲ 2007년 발굴조사 당시 비석받침을 출토하는 모습
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12년간 남북 공동으로 생산한 자료, 여기 공개합니다

- 남북 교류협력 사업의 성과가 디지털 기록관으로 국민들에게 공개되는 것, 어떤 의미를 가질까요?

심 : "우선 전문가들이 관련 연구를 지속·심화할 수 있는 시스템을 만들었다는 의미가 있죠. 앞으로 발굴이 계속된다고 할 때, 그것이 지난 12년의 역사와 이어질 수 있다는 게 디지털 아카이브 구축의 큰 의미죠.

남측에서 만월대 유물(복제품) 전시를 할 때마다 관람객들이 '12년 동안 이런 사업이 계속돼 왔단 말이에요? 잘 몰랐어요'라는 말을 많이 하셨어요. 많이 알려지지 않았지만, 남북협력이 계속해서 이어져 왔고, 공동의 노력으로 1100년 전 고려의 유물이 드러났다는 점이 큰 의미가 있죠. 만월대 기록관 구축으로 그것들을 국민들에게 항상 설명할 수 있는 창구가 만들어진 겁니다."

김 : "지금까지 남북 민간교류는 공연이나 관광을 제외하고는 전문가 교류 중심일 수밖에 없었어요. 만월대 조사도 마찬가지인데, 디지털 기록관을 통해서 그 성과가 대중화되는 계기를 만든 거죠. 전시는 시간과 공간의 제약이 컸기 때문에, 그런 한계들을 극복하면서 성과를 대중화하는 중요한 계기라고 생각합니다.

조사가 거듭될수록 조사단이나 학계에서 연구에 대한 갈증이 계속 생겼어요. 사실 고려시대는 다른 시대에 비해 연구자도 많지 않은 편이에요. 고려의 도읍은 북측에 있기 때문에 제약이 있을 수밖에 없죠. 저희 사업만 해도 금속활자부터 해서 세분화해 추가 연구가 필요한 분야는 무궁무진해요. 만월대 기록관은 그걸 위한 자료 창구죠. 활발한 연구의 토대가 되기를 기대합니다."

- 만월대 기록관 구축 사업에서 가장 어려웠던 점은 무엇이었나요?

심 : "고고학자, 미술사학자, 도자 전문가, 와전 전문가, 건축학자 등 서로 다른 분야의 전문가들이 데이터베이스의 언어로 같이 소통해야 하는 거예요. 다른 학문 사이의 협력이 얼마나 어려운지 많이 느꼈어요. 기와 조각 하나, 도기 조각 하나 등 발굴된 유물 하나하나를 두고도 모두 그런 소통의 과정이 있었어요.

만월대 기록관은 각계 전문가들이 치열하고 성실한 소통의 결과로 만든 남북협력 사업 성과입니다. 남북협력 예산을 '퍼주기'라고 비판하기도 하잖아요. 만월대 기록관은 '퍼주기'가 아니라 의미 있는 곳에 돈이 쓰이고 있었다는 걸 확인시켜주는 거죠. 국민들에게, 미래세대에게 보고한다는 마음으로 만들었습니다."

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▲ 만월대 조사 초기부터 지원 역할을 맡아온 김경순 남북역사학자협의회 기획홍보부장
ⓒ 최규화

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이야기 영상으로 쉽고 유익하게... "교사분들, 꼭 활용해주세요"

- 만월대 조사의 성과를 국민들에게 쉽고 재미있게 전달하기 위해 어떤 노력을 하셨나요?

심 : "스토리텔링 영상을 여러 개 만들었어요. 발굴은 어떤 과정을 거쳤는지, 어떤 단계를 통해서 전문적인 성과들이 만들어졌는지, 그것을 위해서 남북은 어떻게 협력했는지 등을 영상으로 쉽게 보여주는 거죠.

또 초등학교 고학년부터 중학생을 대상으로 교수학습자료를 만들었어요. 교과서 분석과 전문가 자문을 거쳐서 온라인 답사 코스 세 개를 꾸몄어요. 특히 요즘 비대면 수업이 많으니까 학생들한테 과제로 내줄 수도 있고 영상 수업도 할 수 있겠죠. 계기 수업으로 만월대 기록관을 활용해주시기를 꼭 부탁드리고 싶어요."

- 만월대 기록관에서 볼 수 있는 유물 가운데 눈여겨볼 만한 유물 몇 가지만 소개해주십시오.

김 : "2007년에 출토된 대형청자가 있어요. '청자 음각 보상당초문 대형기'라고 부르는데, 높이 65cm, 지름이 22cm나 되는 큰 원통형인데 모양이 꼭 죽부인같이 생겼습니다. 다른 어디에서도 이런 모양의 청자는 나온 적이 없어요. 누가 어디에 썼는지도 역시 알 수 없고요. 그래서 처음에는 그냥 '이형청자', 모양이 다른 청자라고 불렀어요. 상당히 특이한 유물이죠.

고누놀이판도 재미있어요. 기와에도 바닥전에도 고누놀이가 새겨진 것들을 발견했는데, 누가 감히 궁궐에서 쇠꼬챙이로 긁어서 판을 그리고 놀았을까, 당대에 그려진 것이냐 나중에 그려진 것이냐 의문이 있었어요. 하지만 출토 위치, 다른 출토 유물과의 관계 등으로 볼 때 고려시대의 것으로 보고 있다고 합니다. 추정하기로는, 궁궐 지을 때 일하던 사람들이 쉬는 시간에 깨진 기와판에 고누놀이를 그려서 놀았을 것 같아요."

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▲ 만월대 기록관에서 볼 수 있는 대표 유물. 2007년 출토된 대형청자(왼쪽)와 2015년 출토된 금속활자.
ⓒ 통일부

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- 과거 5·24조치와 김정일 국방위원장 사망 등으로 조사 도중 돌아와야 했던 적도 있었고, 한두 해씩 조사가 중단되기도 했습니다. 지금도 2018년 이후 조사가 중단된 상황인데, 조사 재개에 대한 전망은 어떤가요?

김 : "2019년 이후 남북 민간교류의 대화 창구도 모두 막힌 상황입니다. 일단은 코로나19 상황부터 끝나봐야 알 수 있을 것 같아요. 하지만 2019년 4월 16일 만월대 남북 공동발굴을 위한 장비의 대북반출에 대한 제재 면제 신청이 승인됐기 때문에, 언제든 분위기만 형성된다면 바로 재개하도록 준비하고 있습니다."

심 : "아마 북측의 주요 관계자들도 만월대 기록관을 알게 될 거예요. 새로운 차원의 교류협력이 이 기록관을 통해 생길 수도 있겠죠. 만월대 교류협력의 디지털 전환이 일어날 수 있는 겁니다. 남북 학자들이 디지털 아카이브를 활용해 새로운 차원의 교류협력 사업을 추진할 수 있기를 기대합니다."

남북교류 막혔지만... '새로운 가능성'의 발견, 길게 보고 투자해야

- 앞으로 만월대 조사와 같은 사업이 더 활발히 전개되려면, 사회적으로 어떤 노력들이 더 필요할까요?

김 : "남북교류는 단시간에 되는 일이 아니에요. 남북교류 초반 일회성 사업 위주로 진행되던 것이 이미 겨레말큰사전, 만월대 조사 사업이 시작되던 2000년대 후반부터는 장기적·단계적 교류 사업으로 옮겨가기 시작했습니다. 여러 이유로 남북교류가 정체되다 보니 실현되지는 못했는데, 이제는 제대로 실현해가야 하지 않을까 합니다. 만월대 조사 같은 경우도 늘 듣는 질문이 '올해 도자기 몇 개 나왔어요?'였어요. 단기적인 실적을 중심으로 보기보다 길게 투자해가는 구조가 필요합니다."

- 만월대 조사 사업과 만월대 기록관 구축 사업이 두 사람에 개인에게 남긴 것은 무엇인가요?

심 : "기록관리가 남북 교류협력에 도움이 된 사례가 많지 않은데, 이번에 선례가 생겼다는 게 의미 있다고 봅니다. 그게 제가 이 일을 한 이유이기도 하고요. 교류협력의 모든 분야에서 이런 아카이브를 남길 수 있으면 좋겠어요. 그리고 발굴부터 기록관 구축까지 여러 학자들의 열정에 함께할 수 있어서 기뻤어요."

김 : "새로운 가능성의 출발점이죠. 발굴 현장에서 조사자가 기록하는 '야장(野帳)'이 연구의 가장 기초 자료인데, 가깝게는 '디지털 야장'으로 대체할 수 있는 시스템을 상상할 수도 있죠. 남북의 학자들이 하나의 시스템을 가지고 토론도 연구도 같이 하는, 전에 없던 새로운 영역으로 발전할 가능성이 열렸으니까요."


▲ 개성 만월대 남북공동 발굴조사, 2007년부터 2018년까지
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Mindfulness and Psychotherapy: by Christopher K. Germer (Editor), Ronald D. Siegel (Editor), Paul R. Fulton (Editor)

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Responding to growing interest among psychotherapists of all theoretical orientations, this practical book provides a comprehensive introduction to mindfulness and its clinical applications. The authors, who have been practicing both mindfulness and psychotherapy for decades, present a range of clear-cut procedures for implementing mindfulness techniques and teaching them to patients experiencing depression, anxiety, chronic pain, and other problems. Also addressed are ways that mindfulness practices can increase acceptance and empathy in the therapeutic relationship. The book reviews the philosophical underpinnings of mindfulness and presents compelling empirical findings. User-friendly features include illustrative case examples, practice exercises, and resource listings.

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"Mindfulness and Psychotherapy is the first comprehensive work that pulls the various strands of knowledge under the rubric of mindfulness together and it does so in a scholarly yet highly accessible fashion. Drawing on both Buddhist and Western psychology, the subtle and intriguing concepts that fall under the notion of mindfulness (e.g. mediation, attentional style, empathy, acceptance and tolerance of affects) are fully explicated in the context of relevant research and theory. We are offered numerous hands-on techniques and resources for mindfulness training and for its integration into our therapeutic practice--be it cognitive-behavioral or psychodynamic. A real winner!"--Leo Goldberger, PhD, Behavioral Science Book Service Advisory Board member

“One of the best books yet on mindfulness and psychotherapy. Well informed, clinically sound, thoughtful, practical, and provocative."--Jack Kornfield, PhD, author of A Path With Heart

"A landmark contribution to the emerging field of mindfulness-based interventions in psychology, psychiatry, and medicine. Contributors include psychotherapists with longstanding personal commitments to mindfulness meditation practice and its clinical applications, as well as a neuroscientist and a Buddhist scholar. Comprehensive, accessible, and full of illuminating case studies and mindfulness-based exercises, this book is likely to catalyze interest in mindfulness for years to come. It opens a range of different doors for mental health professionals interested in applying mindfulness in the clinical domain and in the cultivation of well-being, happiness, compassion, and wisdom. It will serve as a useful text in undergraduate- and graduate-level courses in positive psychology, clinical practice, psychotherapy, and human performance."--Jon Kabat-Zinn, PhD, author of Coming to Our Senses

"Over the past decade, the concept of mindfulness has captured the imagination of psychotherapists. This impressive volume catalogs the clinical applications and relevance of mindfulness across the spectrum of emotional disorders, offering an evenhanded discussion of both theory and praxis. The unique perspective provided by editors and authors whose personal practice of mindfulness suffuses their work with patients makes this text a valuable addition to any classroom or clinic library."--Zindel V. Segal, PhD, Center for Addiction and Mental Health and Department of Psychiatry, University of Toronto, Canada

"Mindfulness and Psychotherapy shines a light on a fundamental and powerful element in the process of human healing and transformation. With clarity and sensitivity, this book reveals how the cultivation of mindfulness can lead us to freedom in the midst of pain, anxiety, depression, and a host of other human difficulties. The editors and authors explore the theoretical and empirical basis for applying mindfulness in clinical settings, establishing it as a model of psychotherapy that is complementary to major contemporary schools of therapy. And then, with clear case examples, treatment methodologies, and exercises, they show us how mindfulness works! In addition to being an invaluable guide for mental health professionals, this book would serve well as required reading for undergraduate- or graduate-level courses in clinical psychology."--Tara Brach, PhD, author of Radical Acceptance: Embracing Your Life with the Heart of a Buddha

"When the history of 21st-century psychology is written, the introduction of mindfulness as an adjunct to psychotherapy will stand out like a beacon. This seminal volume is an expert's guide to the field, while still being fully accessible to the beginner. It is invaluable both to therapists and to anyone interested in developing awareness, presence, and compassion. Mindfulness and Psychotherapy is bound to become a classic text."--Joan Borysenko, PhD, author of Minding the Body, Mending the Mind and Inner Peace for Busy People

"The editors and authors of this volume effectively demonstrate the use of mindfulness meditation techniques as a viable means for addressing clinician and client issues. Not only do they provide an information-dense collection of chapters representing numerous applications of mindfulness strategies, but they also present the information in a delightful conversant style that gently emanates an embracing warmth for the reader." ― Journal of Marital and Family Therapy Published On: 2005-03-11

"A brave and brilliant compilation from 11 different authors that explore many of the different ways that mindfulness can inform the theory and practice of psychotherapy....If the reader is new to the concept of 'mindfulness,' this book is a wonderful place to introduce himself or herself to the possibilities of mindfulness within his or her own life and therapy practice. If mindfulness is already familiar to the reader, this book is a wonderful collection of reference materials that can be easily navigated and used." ― PsycCRITIQUES Published On: 2005-03-11
About the Author
Christopher K. Germer, PhD, is a clinical psychologist in private practice, specializing in mindfulness-based treatment of anxiety and panic. He has been integrating meditation and mindfulness principles into psychotherapy since 1978 and has taken many trips to India to explore the varieties of meditation and yoga. Currently the Director of Continuing Education for the Institute for Meditation and Psychotherapy, he is a clinical instructor in