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The Web of Life: A New Scientific Understanding of Living Systems by Fritjof Capra | Goodreads

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Published in 1996. This is the first time I've seen sustainability discussed so thoroughly (in the Epiloigue).. Book packed with info. Made me wonder where his experts stand with most current researchers. Has anyone read it or have an opinion or info on it? I haven't seen it referenced much, but contains many facts (?) of interest.

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Nate D

May 26, 2009Nate D rated it did not like it

Shelves: non-fiction, school

Pseudo-scientific mysticism. Just enough science (quite a bit, actually; Capra hasn't exactly shirked his research) to make people buy the completely unfounded ludicrous speculation the book spends its length careening towards. I almost shelved this as "fantasy".

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Stephen

Feb 10, 2008Stephen rated it really liked it

Shelves: ecology, non-fiction

In The Web of Life: A New Scientific Understanding of Living Systems, Fritjof Capra attempts to present a synthesis of systems models as a new (and improved) way of looking at life. While scientists will often speak of paradigm shifts within a field -- for instance from Newtonian to relativistic physics, or Lamarckian evolution to the Darwinian kind -- it is rare that they attempt to link these individual shifts to a wider movement. It is probably rarer still that they attempt to create the overarching paradigm, as opposed to simply documenting it.



Capra begins by acknowledging the countless problems plaguing humanity today. Taking a deep ecological approach, he sees the problems of hunger, climate change, education, conflict, and so on as being integrated and systemic. If humanity understands the magnitude of these calamities, then it is clear that we are not currently capable of dealing with them. Capra's belief is that we must refocus the way we look at the world -- we must put on green-tinted glasses with a worldview rooted in sustainability. He speaks of the need to understand the interdependence of humanity and nature; he speaks of shifting from self-assertion to integration, from power to balance, and from hierarchies to networks.



One of the delightful aspects of Capra's writing is that he leaves room for you to connect many of the dots, yet weaves key concepts in repeated mantras. If you don't quite see the connection, he'll make it clear in a reference somewhere in the next chapter. Thus it is as he steps away from the normative social science for most of the book, wrapping things up nicely at the end.



In parts two and three he describes systems thinking and key systems theories. Of systems thinking in general Capra writes, "[the] essential properties of an organism... are properties of the whole, which none of the parts have," and, " systems cannot be understood by analysis."



Four criteria of systems thinking are laid out:



1) holistic, systemic properties emerge as "organizing relations of the parts"

2) different properties emerge at each "level" of a system

3) knowledge as a network, not an edifice

4) must explicitly describe epistemology



Dr. Capra, a particle physicist by training, has a true gift for translating abstract scientific concepts into intelligible English. This gift is used well in describing an array of theories and showing the similarities of worldview that they imply. Of traditional physics he speaks little, only alluding to ideas drawn out in full in The Tao of Physics. In fact, his work now revolves around the idea of life being at the center of our quest for knowledge, instead of pure structure. Theories so richly described include cybernetics, dissipative structures and mathematical complexity (chaos), laser theory, hypercycles, autopoeisis, Gaia theory, and symbiogenesis.



Much of the synthesis throughout and following these theories grows from the work of Humberto Maturela and Francisco Varela (the Santiago theory of cognition). As he moves from the primarily physical theories into the realm of humanity, he focuses on the place of consciousness, rational and intuitive knowledge, and language in the human condition as we know it.



In an epilogue titled "Ecoliteracy," Capra gives a taste of things to come by extending the discussion of the human condition and the deep ecological view of sustainability. The potential impact of the "web of life" paradigm on the functioning of society at large is fully explored in his follow-up book, The Hidden Connections: Integrating the Biological, Cognitive, and Social Dimensions of Life into a Science of Sustainability.



I find the Web of Life to be an engaging, educational, coherent, and most important of all, extremely relevant view of the world in which we presently find ourselves. It is an important addition to the field of knowledge, and I hope that it may affect some shift in both the filters we see the world through and the policies we create in their context. (less)

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Bob Nichols

Aug 31, 2012Bob Nichols rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition

Capra presents an anti-reductionist, and anti-deterministic (molecular v. integrative, holistic v. mechanistic) view of life. Life is not about atoms only, but patterns of organization and networks of mutually beneficial parts. He uses the term autopoiesis (self-organization) to describe a process whereby life makes iteself, continuously. Life is closed to the world in the sense that it self-creates and self-orders, but life is also open because it necessarily interacts with its environment and adapts to it. Mind is not a thing, Capra says, but a process that takes in what the external world requires and behavior is modified through feedback loops as a result. "To live is to know," he says, and all life has mind.



We are composed of nucleated cells where parts function as parts of a whole and where the whole is dependent on the parts. We are a community, internally, and externally in our relationship with the environment. We are part of the web of life, not isolated from it. This is a vision of not only who we are, but who we need to be. This is why Capra uses the expression, "spiritual ecology."



This is not a bad vision for life, as long as it's understood that Capra describes but does not explain. We are the living embodiment of a pattern he says, but he doesn't tell us how that pattern is created. We know about the cybernetic interaction with the environment, but how did life get this capacity? If life is a community of self-inerested entities (genes, molecules, cells,) we presume that there's cooperation for mutual benefit but that just begs the question: Why do self-interested entities "care" about themselves? Do self-interested communities within our bodies prune back each other and thereby promote the collective interest of the whole? Is it in this sense that the whole regulates and is different from its parts?



We might understand the integration and community part of life from what Capra describes, but he dismisses the role of competition and combat. That omission makes his vision more aspirational than real. (less)

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Sebastian

Mar 15, 2010Sebastian rated it really liked it

This was an excellent book, one of the best ones I have read in over a year, with new ideas and stimulated imagination. I learned a great deal about cybernetics, learned to view evolution from a different perspective, and see how all of "life" can be broken down into cohesive sequence of chemical unfoldings. Theories tie well into chaos theory, emergence and systems analysis.



Not everything he says though I agree with, but this is largely understandable since my world-view is quite fringe even among the fringe.



As far as writing style, even though he has a fabulous and clear voice, he does suffer from repetition. He will prelude to some concept and labor on about it for pages, then explain what it is that is important - sometimes far too briefly - and then labor on again and again [sometimes in further chapters once more:] about the same names, concepts or topics, over and over again. Fortunately, those moments when he does unveil more concepts are quite thought provoking, which helps to keep the attention up and the end-value bright.



Before I had read this book, I was already well versed in: Spiral Dynamics, Permaculture, Integral Philosophy, Deep Ecology, Post-modernism, Chaos Theory and Systems Theory.



With this book I now feel like I have a new micro-biological perspective on evolution, systems-theory connections with emergence and chaos theory, and cybernetics. (less)

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Kity Požek

Aug 17, 2019Kity Požek added it

a real brain candy :D

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Glynda-lee Hoffmann

Sep 13, 2007Glynda-lee Hoffmann rated it liked it

Dense and complicated, but illuminating.

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Paco Nathan

Dec 11, 2009Paco Nathan rated it really liked it

Shelves: green

Well written. Tour de force for many complex points, with excellent storytelling and vital issues. Good intro for autopoiesis and systems theory from Green perspectives.

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Jitin Singla

Feb 11, 2017Jitin Singla rated it it was amazing

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I can't recommend it enough.

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Christopher Miller

Jun 02, 2019Christopher Miller rated it did not like it

Shelves: dnf

One good thing from this book, at least I know I'm getting better at recognizing bullshit right off the bat. I would have eaten this right up with no questions back in college.

Capra keeps making assertions that I might agree with, or at least want to be true, but with no evidence to back them up. Where he does cite a source, about half of them appear to be referring to his earlier works. Is there a separate term for 'argument from authority' when you yourself are the authority?

I want to find an electronic version of this just so I can count how many times he uses the word paradigm.

He has a table where various terms are set at odds with each other and of course the terms he likes are superior. I would agree with most, but then the first one in the list is rationality vs intuition. That is so the opposite of science (two people might have different intuitions, how do we go about determining whose is correct?), and it makes it impossible for me to take a single word seriously.

Tao of Physics has been on my favorites shelf for years, which I did read in college. Might be time for a revisit... (less)

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Luke

Jan 03, 2020Luke rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition

A wonderful exposition of the theories variously referred to as systems/ecological thinking; the Gaia hypothesis; life-mind continuity thesis, etc. and a must-read for anybody interested in overcoming the false Cartesian mind-matter dichotomy. Full of references that will keep you spiralling merrily down the rabbit hole and with plenty of practical, implementable suggestions for what a holistic, cooperation-heavy worldview would look like. 11/10

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The Systems View of Life: A Unifying Vision Fritjof Capra, Pier Luigi Luisi

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Over the past thirty years, a new systemic conception of life has emerged at the forefront of science. New emphasis has been given to complexity, networks, and patterns of organisation, leading to a novel kind of 'systemic' thinking. This volume integrates the ideas, models, and theories underlying the systems view of life into a single coherent framework. Taking a broad sweep through history and across scientific disciplines, the authors examine the appearance of key concepts such as autopoiesis, dissipative structures, social networks, and a systemic understanding of evolution. The implications of the systems view of life for health care, management, and our global ecological and economic crises are also discussed. Written primarily for undergraduates, it is also essential reading for graduate students and researchers interested in understanding the new systemic conception of life and its implications for a broad range of professions - from economics and politics to medicine, psychology and law.

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'Partly an enjoyable survey of exciting new developments in systems biology, valuable to any student of biology or science, and partly a bold blueprint for how we might preserve our future on Earth.' New Scientist


'A magisterial study of the scientific basis for an integrated worldview grounded in the wholeness that generations of one-eyed reductionists could not see. The authors succeed brilliantly!' David W. Orr, Oberlin College


'… gives us a sound synthesis of the best science and theory on the connectedness of all living things, the dynamics of emergence and self-organization as conceived by Francisco Varela. This volume offers a profound framework for understanding our place on the planet, for better or worse. And if we apply the insights offered by Capra and Luisi, it will be for the better … should be required reading for today's young, tomorrow's leaders, and anyone who cares about life on this planet.' Daniel Goleman, author of Emotional Intelligence and Ecological Intelligence


'What is life? What is a human being? How can new discoveries about nature and ourselves keep us from becoming the first self-endangered species? Capra and Luisi's dazzling synthesis explains how moving beyond mechanistic, linear, reductionist habits is revealing startling new answers to perennial questions of philosophy and practice. Sir Francis Bacon's goal of 'the enlargement of the bounds of Human Empire, to the effecting of all things possible' has put humanity in serious trouble. But today, rebuilding our thinking, language, and actions around Darwin, not Descartes, and around modern biology, not outmoded physics, creates rich new options. Driven by the co-evolution of business with civil society, these can build a fairer, healthier, cooler, safer world. The Systems View of Life is a lucid, wide-ranging guide to living maturely, kindly, and durably with each other and with other beings on the only home we have.' Amory B. Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute


'… this book feels like a Rosetta stone for me, unlocking connections and roots of a panoply of different ideas and concepts. It starts walking us through the history of science – and how scientific models influenced most aspect of cultures … This book pulls the big changes together and integrates them, across disciplines into a glorious big picture, for each field … As I was reading the portion of the book covering the history of systems thinking … I realized that I was suddenly feeling very excited, like I was in a movie, sitting on the edge of my seat … This is what a great writer and a great book are supposed to do … It has had a huge impact on my way of thinking about so many things. It doesn't matter what your area of work or interest is. This book is essential reading to face the future with eyes wide open.' Rob Kall, OpEdNews.com


'… a valuable overview of the discipline.' Stephen Lewis, The Biologist


'What a fine, erudite, synoptic, lovely book!' Stuart Kauffman, University of Pennsylvania and the Institute for Systems Biology, Seattle

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Taking a broad sweep through history and across scientific disciplines, this volume integrates the ideas, models, and theories underlying the systems view of life into a single coherent framework. Life's biological, cognitive, social, and ecological dimensions are presented and its philosophical, spiritual, and political implications discussed.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Natural systems rule. Break the rules and suffer

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A Systems view of life proposes to bring unity to understanding the dynamic relationships at all levels and categories that bring about our existence. It has good coverage, in sufficient detail, and with good reasons, of how our scientific understanding of the concrete, reductionist, laws, combine in many relationships to bring about the properties of emergent life including ourselves. The combinations of system workings are a force far greater than all of us, as are the generative capacities of our world to create and sustain life. We need to tune in to this much more. We need to work with and support the generative efforts of the natural world and its systems and cycles, rather than go destructively against it with our limited concepts of economic exploitation for profit.

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This is an interdisciplinary book which presents ”a unified systemic vision that includes and integrates life’s” different dimensions (p.xii). All living systems are ”highly nonlinear” networks where there are ”countless interconnections” (p.xii). Here is a summary of the book together with some conclusions.


Introduction (pp.1--16)

The systems view of life is ”a change from seeing the world as a machine to understanding it as a network” (p.4). Greek philosophy, in the sixth century BC, ”understood the order of the cosmos to be that of a living organism” (p.5). The shift from an organic to a mechanistic worldview ”was initiated by … René Descartes (1596-1650)” who is ”regarded as the founder of modern philosophy” (p.8).


A living system is "an integrated whole whose … properties cannot be reduced to its parts" (p.10). These properties "arise from the interactions and relationships between the parts" (p.10). Outlines of a "coherent theory of living systems … are now emerging" (p.12). This is the subject of the book.


We need to "question … the old paradigm" (p.12). The "paradigm shift also involves … changes of values" (p.13). There is a "striking connection between changes of thinking and of values" (p.13). The "connection between an ecological perception of the world and corresponding behavior is not a logical but a psychological connection" (p.14). "Logic does not lead us from the fact that we are an integral part of the web of life to certain norms of how we should live (p.14). However, if we have a "deep ecological experience of being part of the web of life, then we will … be inclined to care for all living nature" (p.15). "The paradigm shift … at its deepest level, involves a perceptual shift" (p.15).


The mechanistic worldview (pp.17--60)

As the organic view of nature was replaced by the metaphor of the world as a machine, "the goal of science became … to dominate and control nature" (p.21). All "scientific theories are reductionist in the sense that they need to reduce the phenomena described to a … number of characteristics" (p.24). Scientists "in treating living organisms as machines, tended to believe that they are nothing but machines" (p.26). The adverse consequences of this "have become especially apparent in medicine" (p.26). "Economists [also] generally fail to recognize that the economy is merely one aspect of the whole ecological and social fabric" (p.56). Unlimited growth "on a finite planet can only lead to disaster" (p.56).


As the "metaphor of organizations as machines" has taking hold, it has generated "mechanistic theories of management" with "clearly defined lines of command and communication" (p.58). During the Industrial Revolution "efficient operation of the new machines required major changes in the organization of the workforce" (p.58). The workforce was disciplined "to accept the rigorous routines [required] by factory production" (p.58).


Interestingly, Max Weber (1864-1920) "was very critical of the development of mechanistic forms of organization" (p.58). Weber observed "the parallels between the machination of industry and bureaucratic forms of organization" (p.58). He was concerned about "the mechanization of human life, the erosion of human spirit, and the undermining of democracy" (p.58). Weber's contemporary, Frederick Taylor (1856-1915), "perfected the engineering approach to management" (p.58). The organization's "structure and goals are designed by management … and are imposed on the organization" with "top-down control" (p.59). The "design of formal structures, linked by clear lines of communication, coordination, and control, has become almost second nature" (p.59).


Transcending "the mechanistic conceptions of health, the economy, or biotechnology" and "the mechanistic view of organizations" is "critical for the survival of or human civilization (p.59).


The rise of systems thinking (pp.61--126)

"Throughout the living world, we find living systems nesting within other living systems" (p.65). Living systems act both as "parts and wholes" (p.65). There is both "an integrative" and "a self-assertive" tendency (p.65). The "essential properties" of living systems are "properties of the whole" (p.65). "The great chock of twentieth-century science has been that living systems cannot be understood by analysis" (p.66).


There are "three kinds of living systems - organisms, parts of organisms, and communities of organisms" (p.67). Living systems "at all levels are networks" and consists of "networks within networks" (p.68). "Whenever we look at life, we look at networks" (p.95). Nature shows us "a complex web of relationships between … parts of a unified whole" (p.68). "There is stability, but this stability is one of dynamic balance" (p.75). All living systems are "open systems" which need "a continual flux of matter and energy" (p.86).


Norbert Wiener (1894--1964) introduced the term "cybernetics," from the Greek kybernetes ("steersman"), in the 1940s. Wiener defined cybernetics as the science of "control and communication in the animal and the machine" (p.87). "All major achievements of cybernetics originated … in mechanistic models of living systems" (p.89). Interestingly, Norbert Wiener made "a clear distinction between a mechanistic model and the non-mechanistic living system it represents" (p.93). Ross Ashby (1903--1972), who was "the leading theorist of the cybernetics movement" in the 1950s and 1960s, had, on the other hand, a "strictly mechanistic outlook" (p.93). For Ashby, there was "no creativity, no development, no evolution" (p.97).


Even "the simplest living system … is a highly complex network" (p.98). "Nonlinear dynamics … represents a qualitative rather than a quantitative approach to complexity and … systems thinking" (p.99). The systems view is a shift of perspective "from objects to relationships, from measuring to mapping, from quantity to quality" (p.99). Nonlinear phenomena are "an essential aspect of the network patterns of living systems" (p.105). Nonlinearity has brought about a "shift of emphasis from quantitative to qualitative analysis" (p.105).


The "spontaneous emergence of order at critical points of instability" is "one of the hallmarks of life" (p.116). The "understanding of pattern[s] is crucial to understand the living world" (p.126).


A new conception of life (pp. 127--339)

Humberto Maturana and Francisco Varela coined the term "autopoiesis", which means "self-making", in the 1970s (p.129). The main characteristic of life is "self-maintenance" (p.129). A living organism "does not need any information from the outside to be what it is, but it is … dependent on outside materials in order to survive" (p.134). Life can be seen as "a system of interlocked autopoietic systems" (p.135). "Autopoiesis is the particular self-organization of life" (p.135).


There is "a clear difference between the ways living and nonliving systems interact with their environments" (p.136). If you "kick a stone, it will react" (p.136). If you "kick a dog, it will respond" (p.136). "The interaction with the environment … is determined by the internal organization of the living organism" (p.141). A living organism is "capable of cognition (the process of knowing)" (p.142). The "living organism and the environment become one through cognitive interactions" (p.143). "A particular combination of self-organization and emergence gives rise to self-reproduction" (p.145).


Dynamic systems "generally operate far from equilibrium, and yet are … stable, self-organizing structures" (p.158). In static systems, "self-organization and the resulting emergent properties are relatively simple concepts" (p.180). In dynamic systems, however, "self-organization and emergence are subtle and complex" (p.180). "New structures … and forms of organization may arise … in situations of instability, chaos, or crisis" (p.180).


The "appropriate way of approaching nature … is not through domination and control but through respect, cooperation, and dialogue" (p.180). In the living world, "history plays an important role" and "the future is uncertain" (p.180). "Life … cannot be explained in reductionistic terms" (p.181). All living forms "are linked together to each other by a network of parenthood" (p.182). "Cooperation is clearly visible … at many levels of living organisms" (p.202). "The planetary network of bacteria," for example, "has been the main source of evolutionary creativity" (p.192). Another example is "symbiosis, the tendency of different organisms to live in close association with one another" (p.202).


In living organisms, "there is no easy way to separate instructions from the way they are carried out, to distinguish plan from execution" (p.206). The "principle of structural determinism, … implies that only those changes can be accepted that are consistent with the existing inner structure and organization of the living organism" (p.214). The change must also be consistent with the organism's "self-maintenance" (p.214). Evolution is "complex, highly ordered, and ultimately cognitive" (p.215). It is "an integral part of life's self-organization" (p.215).


One important implication of "the new systemic understanding of life" is a new understanding of "the nature of mind and consciousness" (p.252). The "phenomenon of mind" is connected with the "phenomenon of life" (p.253). In other words, "cognition is the very process of life" (p.254). "The organizing activity of living systems, at all levels of life, is mental activity" (p.254). "Mind - or, more accurately, mental activity - is immanent in matter at all levels of life" (p.254).


"Every living organism continually renews itself" while maintaining "its overall identity or pattern of organization" (p.255). Living organisms create "new structures - new connections in the network" (p.255). "Living systems are autonomous" (p.255). Living organisms respond "to environmental changes," and "these changes" alter future responses. This "modification of behavior on the basis of previous experience" is learning (p.255). Continuing "adaptation, learning, and development" are key characteristics of all living beings (p.255). "We can never direct a living system; we can only disturb it" (p.256). A living system has the "autonomy to decide what to notice and what will disturb it" (p.256).


"Describing cognition as the breath of life seems to be a perfect metaphor" (p.256). Mind is "the process of cognition, which is identified with the process of life" (p.257). At all levels of life, "mind and matter, process and structure, are inseparably connected" (p.257). Consciousness "emerges when cognition reaches a certain level of complexity" (p.257). Consciousness is "a cognitive process" (p.260) which "involves self-awareness" (p.258). Conscious experience is "an expression of life, emerging from complex neural activity" (p.265). Mind and body "are two complementary aspects of life" (p.273). Primary, or core, consciousness "provides the organism with a transient sense of self (the core self) in the act of perception" (p.274), while "reflective consciousness" is "the process of cognition … we experience as thought" (p.274).


The "pattern of organization of any system … is the configuration of relationships among the system's components" (p.301). This "configuration of relationships" gives the system "its essential characteristics" (p.301). The "structure of a system" is its "physical embodiment of its pattern of organization" (p.302). The "process of life" is the "continual embodiment of the system's pattern of organization" (p.302). These are three perspectives on life: "organization, structure, and process" (p.302). This is the "trilogy of life" (p.303).


The trilogy of life can, in more general terms, be expressed as "form (or pattern of organization), … matter (or material structure), and … process" (p.304). Meaning is added to "the other three perspectives" in order to "extend the systemic understanding of life to the social domain" (p.304). Meaning is "a shorthand notation for the inner world of reflective consciousness, which contains a multitude of interrelated characteristics" (p.304). Human action "flows from the meaning that we attribute to our surroundings" (p.304). Human language "involves the communication of meaning" (p.304).


Living systems "exhibit similar patterns of organization" (p.305). "The network pattern, in particular, is … very basic" (p.305). "All living systems are … networks within networks" (p.306). "A social network, too, is a nonlinear pattern of organization" (p.306). However, "organisms and human societies are very different types of living systems" (p.307). "Human beings can choose whether and how to obey a social rule; molecules cannot choose" (p.307). "Meaning is essential to human beings" (p.309). In "acting with intention and purpose … we experience human freedom" (p.309). The "behavior is constrained but not determined by outside forces" (p.309). As human beings, "we experience this … as the freedom to act according to our own choices and decisions" (p.309).


"Bringing life into human organizations … increases their flexibility, creativity, and learning potential" (p.320). People need to "feel that they are supported … and do not have to sacrifice their integrity to meet the goals of the organization" (p.320). However, the economic environment today "is not life-enhancing but increasingly life-destroying" (p.320). We need to "change our economic system so that it becomes life-enhancing rather than life-destroying (p.321). This change will "be imperative not only for the well-being of human organizations but also for the survival … of humanity as a whole" (p.321). The "new unifying vision of life … has important implication for almost every field of study and every human endeavor" (p.322).


"From a systems point of view, … illness results from patterns of disorder" (p.327). Health is "a multidimensional and multileveled phenomenon" (p.327). "Lack of flexibility manifests itself as stress" (p.356). "Loss of flexibility means loss of health" (p.328). From a systems view of life "the current health revolution can be seen as part of a global movement dedicated to creating a sustainable world" (p.338).


Sustaining the web of life (pp. 339--452)

There are different meanings of "self-organization" (p.346). "To cyberneticists … self-organization meant the … emergence of order in machines featuring feedback loops" (p.346). In complexity theory self-organization is the "emergence of new order … governed by nonlinear dynamics" (p.346). And, in ecosystems self-organization is understood as "dissipative structures operating far from equilibrium" (p.346). There is, however, "almost total silence on the question of autopoiesis in ecosystems" (p.347). We need to "understand the principles of [self-]organization that ecosystems have evolved" (p.353). Ecology is of "paramount practical importance" (p.361).


The "major problems of our time … cannot be understood in isolation" (p.362). The fundamental dilemma is "the illusion that unlimited growth is possible on a finite planet" (p.363). "Social and environmental costs" are not included in economic activities (p.363). There is "a widening gap between the rich and the poor" (p.363). All "ethical dimensions are excluded" (p.378). "Global capitalism … exacerbates" poverty and social exclusion (pp. 384--385). There are also "actively misleading" campaigns that "systematically create doubt and confusion … concerning the threat of global warming" (p.388). "This is why the systems view of life" is very important and "has tremendous practical relevance" (p.392). There are "hundreds of systemic solutions being developed all over the world" (p.393).


It seems as a "more fluid system of global governance would be more appropriate for today's world," where power is increasingly shifted "to regional and local levels" (p.398). This includes the "shift from governments serving corporations to governments serving people and communities," as well as respect for "core labor, social and other human rights" (p.397).


The most important reformation of "the corporation will be to expose the core myth that shareholder returns must be maximized at the expense of human and ecological communities" (p.400). This means "reviving the traditional purpose of the corporation to serve the public good" (p.400). A "fundamental issue … is ownership" (p.401). "Conventional corporate ownership" is an example of "extractive ownership" (p.401). A new "generative ownership" is needed, which "generates well-being and real, living wealth" (p.401).


"Unfortunately, … systemic thinking is still very rare among … corporate and political leaders" (p.407). The "world has to act now or face devastating … consequences," but there is "lack of political will" (p.411). There is an "erroneous belief that nature can be subjected to human control" (p.437). We "need to honor, respect, and cooperate with nature" (p.442). And "we can learn valuable lessons from nature's ecosystems" (p.442). "We have the knowledge and the technologies to build a sustainable world" (p.452). What is needed is "political will and leadership" (p.452). "Major breakthroughs" are needed "to turn the tide" (p.452).


Conclusions

Fritjof Capra och Pier Luigi Luisi's book is truly impressive! The amount of materials covered is broad indeed. The Systems View of Life: A Unified Vision is an attempt to integrate life's biological, cognitive, and social dimensions in a unified systems view of life. In a way, I think Capra and Luisi are brave in taking such a broad sweep across so many different areas. Even if you take a broad sweep, it will still be too narrow. And what you gain in breadth, you risk losing in depth. Overall, I think Capra and Luisi have succeeded in integrating many different perspectives. The book certainly broadened my own perspectives. The main value of the book is the integration of the different ideas, models, and theories into a single framework.

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5.0 out of 5 stars A compelling read

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 7 July 2019

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This a wonderful book! It took me ages to read; not any fault of the style which is both lucid and compelling, raising issues requiring more than a quick flick through. I even broke off halfway through and read Capra's Tao of Physics which I highly recommend as an introduction to The Systems View of Life. Tao will help the reader to understand where Capra's philosophical sentiments lie and while he manages to keep his feet firmly on the ground and doesn't sway too far into metaphysical speculations his sympathies become very apparent.


I am certainly no expert on Eastern philosophy but I note that it has one salient feature common to all religious/spiritual cosmic explanations in that it relies on a notion of the 'ineffable' which is used as a catch-all license to say any old gobblygook secure that, given a receptive audience, whatever tosh is said will be interpreted favourably. Moreover, gobblygook has an added cachet if it is ancient gobblygook where it then masquerades as ancient wisdom espoused, not by the run of the mill supernatural speculators but venerable ancient sages.


Why can't we just be satisfied to acknowledge that humans are forever trapped in a semantic web whereby such questions as to whether the set of all sets is a member of itself is inherently unanswerable and thereby avoid mulling sagacious sounding but ultimately indecipherable aphorisms.


However, The System View of Life doesn't underpin its argument on the parallels with the wisdom of ancient religions but does, in my opinion, give this coincident undue prominence whereas the Systems argument stands firmly on its own rational merits without being cluttered with metaphysical mumbo jumbo.

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5.0 out of 5 stars Astounding breadth of coverage of systems and processes guiding humanity towards a more sustainable existence

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“[T]he Zeitgeist (“spirit of the age”) of the early twenty-first century is being shaped by a profound change of paradigms, characterized by a shift of metaphors from the world as a machine to the world as a network. The new paradigm may be called a holistic worldview, seeing the world as an integrated whole rather than a dissociated collection of parts”


The Systems View of Life - A Unifying Vision (Fritjof Capra and Pier Luigi Luisi) is the kind of book I wish I could write. As the industrial age, which began in the period of the European Enlightenment, draws to maturity through the end of the 20th century and beyond, its very fruits have given humanity the tools to move beyond the industrial and mechanical, and into a higher conception of the nature of existence.


Thus we have the insights of quantum physics and fractal mathematics which were only made possible by going through the Newtonian / Cartesian phase. Or the interconnected, networked world that is forming today, that came about through incremental phases of industrial, machine-based progress. The recent giant leaps in computing power that today enables us to study and model complexity and chaos, leave us perhaps with more questions than answers, but evolved through essentially linear statistical methods over the preceding 200-years.


Where Capra and Luisi take us therefore, is into a place that we I think, already know to be instinctively know we need to be. Namely that as a society we are perhaps grown up enough to be able to once again emphasise the qualitative over the quantitative, the observation over the explanation, the process rather than the outcome. The prize, they argue, is a great one:


“As we move further into the twenty-first century, transcending the mechanistic view of organizations will be as critical for the survival of human civilization as transcending the mechanistic conceptions of health, the economy, or biotechnology. All these issues are linked, ultimately, to the profound scientific, social, and cultural transformation that is now under way with the emergence of the new systemic conception of life.”


Personally I would add a caveat to this: the developed or industrialised world in primed for this transition; the developing world is still undergoing its industrialisation phase through which many hundreds of millions of people are being lifted out of food poverty. Capra and Luisi hint that this can be short-circuited (“The root causes of hunger around the world are unrelated to food production. They are poverty, inequality, and lack of access to food and land”) – my view is that they need to take their time to evolve societally, having now moved away from a land / organic-based existence – they will not need 500 years like we did, but they will need decades. This is important, because the transitions implied in the book will likely remain imperceptible at the level of all humanity for rest of the century.

Moving back to the book itself, the authors do well to delve into science well enough to give the reader a sense of rigour, without crossing the line into incomprehensibility for the layman. A consistent theme is the rationalist, and currently prevailing tendency to break down our existence into building blocks and compartments, whether that be measurements of economic growth, medical diagnosis, legal systems, industrial production. But modern physicists have taught us that at that quantum level “matter” (in the non-technical sense) is fundamentally interconnected and cannot be reduced to infinitesimally small building blocks:


“An electron is neither a particle nor a wave, but it may show particle-like aspects in some situations and wave-like aspects in others. While it acts like a particle, it is capable of developing its wave nature at the expense of its particle nature, and vice versa, thus undergoing continual transformations from particle to wave and from wave to particle…


The discovery of the dual aspect of matter and of the fundamental role of probability has demolished the classical notion of solid objects. At the subatomic level, the solid material objects of classical physics dissolve into wave-like patterns of probabilities. These patterns, furthermore, do not represent probabilities of things, but rather of probabilities of interconnections…


The laws of atomic physics are statistical laws, according to which the probabilities for atomic events are determined by the dynamics of the whole system. Whereas in classical mechanics the properties and behavior of the parts determine those of the whole, the situation is reversed in quantum mechanics: it is the whole that determines the behavior of the parts.”


And the recently evolving discipline of fractal geometry provides us with the basis to extend this principle of interconnectedness and probability both upwards and downwards:


More obviously upwards - the functioning of the human body; the development of societies and economies; ecological phenomena; the space-time of the universe. Less obviously downwards, but reaching into the spiritual and philosophical (think of the buddhist and other eastern philosophies which emphasise the oneness of zero and infinity).


We arrive here through the property of fractal geometry known as self-similarity. The authors tell us how the inventor of fractal geometry Benoit Mandelbrot demonstrates this by breaking a piece of a cauliflower and showing that it looks just like a small cauliflower. Every part looks like the whole vegetable at every level of scale.


So if such interconnectedness and self-similarity exists at the quantum level, why have we organised our societies in such a compartmentalised, non-holistic way ? The answer set out in the book can be summarised by two phenomena.


First, the focus on responding to, and treating, observed outcomes rather than rather than understanding the underlying processes that lead to those outcomes. An obvious example would be politicians who create new government policies based on “events” rather than a qualitative appraisal of the world around them. Or alternatively the diagnostic approach of modern medicine:


“The conceptual foundation of modern scientific medicine is the so-called biomedical model, which is firmly grounded in Cartesian thought …[T]he conceptual problem at the center of contemporary healthcare is the confusion between the origins of disease and the processes through which it manifests itself…


A systemic approach, by contrast, would broaden the scope from the levels of organs and cells to the whole person – to the patient's body and mind, as well as his or her interactions with a particular natural and social environment. Such a broad, systemic perspective will enable health professionals to better understand the phenomenon of healing, which today is often considered outside the scientific framework. Although every practicing physician knows that healing is an essential part of all medical care, the phenomenon is presently not part of scientific medicine. The reason is evident: it is a phenomenon that cannot be understood when health is reduced to mechanical functioning.”


The second is the sense of connection that humans once had with the physical world, the land, nature and eco-systems, and which has been lost through in the industrial society that we inhabit. This connection is, the authors tell us, real and rooted in science. Indeed that very epitome and oft-cited champion of the rationalist scientific school, Charles Darwin gives us our route back to nature. For at the end of day all living organisms share a common ancestor. Organic and inorganic matter evolved to produce living cells which then evolved to produce water, air and land-borne species, of which we are but one.


“There is nothing more holistic and systemic than this notion of Darwinian biological evolution”


Studies of the number of proteins that form all of life suggest that there around 1014 different types (or 100,000 billion). A lot, you might think. However, the mathematically possible number of proteins that could exist based on chains of so-called “residues”, or amino acids, is 10130. Some of those would be energetically impossible, but even if 1 in a billion of those are “permitted” the resulting number of all possible proteins would be 10120. By way of comparison if the actual number of proteins in existence were a single grain of sand, then all the other possible combination representing those that don’t exist, would be the equivalent of the Sahara Desert. And we still do not understand very much the process by which that “one grain of sand”, representing all of life, was selected, over and above all of the other mathematically possible combinations.


And delving into space-time, planets such as our own, have also been part of a cosmic evolution of the universe, the concept of a universe “pregnant with life”. The authors quote the physicist Freeman Dyson (1985):


“As we look out in the universe and identify the many accidents of physics and astronomy that have worked together to our benefit, it almost seems as if the Universe must in some sense have known that we were coming.”


So where does that leave us and where do we go from here ? Rationalist science cannot yet (and may not ever) give us the answers to the true origins of life ? Does it matter ? Yes, it does matter, One the one hand it matters to adherents of organised religion, searching for a way to become closer to a god as creator.


And it also matters to the finest scientific minds seeking out the origins of life and the universe, whether to through Big Bang or more recent theories. Take Stephen Hawking, in A Brief History of Time, and his binary test for whether or not there is a creator:


“So long as the universe had a beginning, we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is really completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would have neither beginning nor end: it would simply be. What place, then, for a creator?”


Capra and Luisi push us to gaining an understanding of the nature of consciousness, and the signposts point to philosophies of the east:


“From our point of view, the apparent dichotomy dissolves when we move from organized religion to the broader realm of spirituality, and when we recognize that both spiritual experience and the mystery we find at the edge of every scientific theory transcend all words and concepts…


[S]cientists [such as Oppenheimer, Bohr and Heisenberg] published popular books about the history and philosophy of quantum physics, in which they hinted at remarkable parallels between the worldview implied by modern physics and the views of Eastern spiritual and philosophical traditions.”


As physicists delve deeper into the material world they come to realise that their own consciousness is part of the unity of all natural phenomena. Mystics arrive there from the opposite direction, with an understanding that outer world is essentially one and the same as the inner world which is their starting point. Thus there is an increasing recognition, observable as we move into a new century that we are “part of a great order, a grand symphony of life”. Every molecule in our body was once part of a previous body, non-living or living, and the same will apply to all life forms that come after us.


Indeed, the authors point out the origin of spirituality. The word “spirit” is derived from the Latin for “breath”, see also the related Latin “anima”, Greek “psyche”, and Sanskrit “atman”. Allowing us to posit that this notion of the spirit, being breath as the source of life, is common across the ancient schools of thought in both east and west:


“Spiritual teachers throughout the ages have insisted that the experience of a profound sense of connectedness, of belonging to the cosmos as a whole, which is the central characteristic of mystical experience, is ineffable – incapable of being adequately expressed in words or concepts – and they often describe it as being accompanied by a deep sense of awe and wonder together with a feeling of great humility”


This, say Capra and Luisi, is the true sense of “ecology” (derived from the Greek “oikos” meaning “Earth Household”) – a oneness with the natural world around us, being a member of a “global community of living beings”, and not interfering with ability of the earth to sustain life. The reader is not surprised at this point that authors take on a quick detour into Gaia theory as well.


Practically, achieving this oneness means that current and future generations of politicians, scientists, business leaders, teachers and professionals will need an understanding of the nature of sustainability. An education programme, in other words.


Modern social networks have the ability to achieve this. Social networks can be (and have typically in the past) used as instruments of control and authority, through bringing together and influencing people of similar mindsets. But in the future they can also be a means of empowerment, dissipating common views about the importance of sustainability, and a systemic or holistic way of thinking.


Examples include: holistic therapies that connect physical well-being to mental well-being; a recognition that an individual’s well-being is determined by diet, and environment and social interaction; an understanding of the self-healing properties of many systems, including the human body and its surrounding ecology; the importance of human and ecological well-being for any corporate entity, arguably over and above its financial and profitability measure.


So, the network, technological and philosophical ingredients are in place in the 21st century. What are the policy implications ? Is there some new world order that needs to be created ? The book takes the obligatory diversion through the well-trodden path of the economic and environmental unsustainability of our current existence, culminating in a now-familiar walk-through of the global financial crisis, its causes and effects. We also hear about various bodies, movements and NGOs that have sprung up before and since to address and promote sustainability.


The book then concludes with a number of possible visions for a more sustainable future, and presents a number of overlapping strategies. The authors note in particular that economic globalisation, which has accelerated in the last 100 years or so, is now essentially characterised by a global network of machines (computers, factories, communication lines, financial systems) that are pre-programmed to maximise profit.


The financial motive is the current “human value” which dominates. It would not, they argue, be too much of a leap of imagination to re-programme the machines to have other values built into them. This would also involve moving from quantitative measures of economic growth, such as GDP, to what may be termed “qualitative growth”. Whilst growth is a characteristic of all life, it is not linear and not unlimited – at the same time as some organisms and ecosystems grow others will shrink and release their components which can become resources for new growth. Qualitative growth is “growth which enhances life”. Quantities can be measured, but qualities need to be mapped, and new mathematical and computing disciplines are allowing us now to do this.


Linked to this, the authors contend, should be a programme for corporate reform. The obligation to maximise shareholder return is etched into the contractual structure of a company, its board and the underpinning legal system. The fiduciary duty owed by a company and its managers to its shareholders overrides all other duties. This profit maximising duty makes the same assumption that economists currently do, namely that social costs, resource ownership, ecological sustainability should not be the goal of a corporation. The authors recommend extending or even replacing this fiduciary duty to include the well-being of the corporation’s employees, of local communities and of future generations, and creating new forms of ownership. And arguably this need not be in conflict with a market-based economy.


The next area for change is where I am most sceptical – namely a number of suggestions around poverty eradication, stabilising population growth, and empowering of women. The last, in particular is seen to be important as a way of tempering the male, power-based, private ownership-based, accumulative cultures that predominate today, with a more feminine approach: conservation, co-operation, and community. More yin, less yang. I am sceptical not because these aims are not highly laudable (though limiting population growth sounds a tad Malthusian), but because it seems apparent to me, having witnessed the rise of China, the tiger economies and some Latin American countries, that the quickest way to eliminate poverty is rapid industrialisation. As I mentioned, their time for an ecological approach will come, and it will come within decades rather than centuries, but they will have to learn the hard way !


Finally, energy transformation. In particular the systemic view advocates a shift away from coal, oil and other fossil fuels. We are at a moment of perfect technological alignment for an energy revolution, because of advances in both energy and communications technology, enabling the a “Third Industrial Revolution” with five pillars:

1. shifting to renewables (solar, wind, hydro)

2. transforming building stock into power plants, collecting energy on-site

3. deploying hydrogen and other storage technologies

4. using the internet to transform electricity grids into “inter-grids”

5. transforming automobiles to electric plug in and fuel cell vehicles


The argument is that this can be achieved in the context of a market economy generating viable returns for investors. Couple this with reductions in industrial waste and inefficiency (estimates are that we can save up to 90% of energy and materials currently used in industrial design), and we can become truly sustainable:


“Imagine fuel without fear. No climate change. No oil spills, dead coal miners, dirty air, devastated lands, lost wildlife. No energy poverty. No oil-fed wars, tyrannies, or terrorists. Nothing to run out. Nothing to cut off. Nothing to worry about. Just energy abundance, benign and affordable, for all, for ever”


This is a great book gets a 5* rating from me. I like it because it provides a coherent scientific, philosophical and technological underpinning for the ideas presented. I do agree that we are seeing signs of systemic rather than linear phenomena, and I do think that current conditions can provide the impetus for this transition. What I don’t understand, and I don’t think the authors do yet either, is whether this transition will be itself a systemic process, or whether some top-down “policies” or “new forms of government” will be required to push the process.

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3.0 out of 5 stars Stimulating. Disappointing.

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 18 June 2020

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I had high hopes of this book co-written by one of the great self-proclaimed exponents of systems thinking. There are some hugely worthwhile and interesting chapters that are well worth reading, most particularly where the authors clearly summarize well established concepts from other research - for example chapters on the principles of non-linearity and on self-organisation. These parts are a very stimulating read and justify the cost and effort.


However I was in the end disappointed. The authors don't seem to have used systems thinking on their own thinking and without this conceptual clarity I didn't find their book an easy or well-organised read. It wasn't clear to me anyway why they wrote the book, what the case is that they want to make, whether anyone disagrees with them, and if so why. As a result there is no conclusion summarizing their argument, which for a book of this length feels outrageous. It means they are leaving it to their poor exhausted readers to join the dots!

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5.0 out of 5 stars Everyone should read this book

Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 26 May 2020

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I've been interested in systems theory and its application to helping us understand life and the universe for about a decade. In this book, Capra and Luisi provide a fantastic overview of systems theory, how it developed, and how it has changed our understanding of life. The authors then explore how systems thinking can be used to eliminate many environmental, economic and social problems, as well as produce sustainable, healthier, more connected and more productive ways of living. I hope for the sake of preventing environmental disasters and producing a better world that many powerful people read this book and implement its teachings.


I enjoyed nearly every chapter of this book. It covered so many topics that I find fascinating, including evolution, consciousness, chaos, fractal geometry, complexity, emergence and ecomimicry. My only criticisms of the book are that it seemed very preachy at times and reflected very anti-capitalist and anti-male sentiments. At times, the book was also a bit too 'spiritual'. Although mainly scientific, it gave religious concepts and Gaia theory a bit too much weight for my liking.


Another thing I didn't like about this book was that the authors often went into a lot of detail about topics that were not very relevant to systems thinking/theory. By editing this stuff out, the authors could have produced a far more gripping book.


Overall, this is a great book, covering lots of interesting topics, providing many insights that can help to improve the world around us, and delivering guidance on how to preserve the planet for future generations.

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Park Yuha 노벨상을 우습게 볼 생각은 없지만



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노벨상을 우습게 볼 생각은 없지만, 받았다고 해서 무조건 대단하게 여기는 것도 어떤가 싶다. 엊그제 노벨문학상에 대해 언급했던 건 사실 이런 류의 비평을 듣고 싶었기 때문이기도 했다.
일본의 비평가 요모타 선생의 호쾌한 일갈. 한국에도 물론 “이 정도 수준의 시인”은 있지 않을까 싶다. 고은 선생 말고.
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노벨 문학상이 루이스 글릭으로 정해졌다고 들어도 그 이름을 알고 있던 일본인은 없었다고 봐야 한다. 번역시집이 없기 때문이다. 그런 정황은, 일본의 영미문학자가 무라카미하루키가 좋아하는 소설만 번역하는 식으로 현대시를 우습게 보는 지적태만태도로 일관해 왔음을 의미한다. 예를 들어 일본의 영문과 교수 중에 조프리 오브라이언이라는 NY 거주 시인을 읽은 사람은 있을까.
글릭의 시는 이해하기 쉬운 시지만, 이 정도 수준의 여성시인이라면 일본에도 얼마든지 있다. 멀리 갈 것도 없이 도미오카 타에코라든가, 얼마전에 작고한 다카라베 도리코 (양쪽 다 영어번역 있음)쪽이 훨씬 흥미롭고 역사와 마주하고 있다. 노벨문학상이란 결국 영어번역문학상일 뿐이다. 

앞으로 고구마줄기 캐는 것처럼 글릭의 번역이 나오는 걸까. 하지만 영어에 능통하거나 NY에 대해 잘 안다고 해서 그녀의 시가 번역 가능해지는 건 아니듯 시의 세계는 간단치 않다. 

시를 번역하려면 우선 일본의 현대시를 소중히 여기고 깊이 읽어 일본어 시에 익숙해져 있지 않으면 안된다. 왜냐하면 일본어로 번역된 외국시란 이미 일본어시이기 때문이다
물론 무라카미하루키취향의 「미국문학」안에 갇혀 있는 번역가들이 할 수 있는 일은 아니다.


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무라카미하루키 책을 많이 읽지 않아 무라카미하루키취향의 「미국문학」이 뭔지는 모르겠지만, 요모타 선생의 글을 읽으면 반미-아시아주의의 냄새를 느끼게 됩니다. 사실 노벨문학상은 제3세계의 문학세계에서는 서구인들이 자기네들 끼리 하는 것이라고 보일 것 같은데, 요모타 선생은 일본문학의 수준이 미국문학의 수준보다 높다, 적어도 못하지 않다는 것은 물론이고, 특히 루이즈 글럭의 수준 정도는 서구세계에서는 높아보일는지는 모르겠지만, 일본에서는 그렇지 않다느 것 처럼 들립니다. 만약에 그렇다면, 루이즈 글럭의 수준을 높게보는 서구의 문학세계는 수준이 일본보다 낮다는 것이란 말이 되겠구나 라는 말이겠구나 하고 생각하게 됩니다. 그런데 요모타 선생은 루이즈 글럭의 책을 얼마나 읽고 하는 이야기인지도 또한 궁금합니다. 문학에는 문외한의 커멘트입니다.

알라딘: 우리의 타자가 되는 한국 - 요모타 이누히코



알라딘: 우리의 타자가 되는 한국

우리의 타자가 되는 한국
요모타 이누히코 (지은이),양경미 (옮긴이)삼각형북스(삼각형M&B)2001-01-01





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책소개
이 책은 지은이가 20여 년 전 스물 다섯 살 때 처음으로 한국 땅을 밟고 일 년 동안 한국의 대학 초빙 강사로 있으면서 한국에서 받았던 인상들을 글로 써두었다가 책으로 묶어낸 것이다.

당시 한국은 정치적 혼란이 정점에 달한 시기였으며 그 뒤숭숭하던 분위기는 끝내 한 나라의 대통령이 측근에 의해 암살 당하는 사건으로까지 이어진다. 대통령 암살 사건은 한국인은 물론 외국의 젋은이에게도 적지 않은 충격이었을 것이다.

그 혼란스러운 시기에 지은이는 낯선 나라 수도인 서울의 한 대학에서 학생들을 가르치며 자신과 별로 나이차가 나지 않는 동시대의 젊은이들과 어울려 탈춤을 관람하고, 막걸리를 마시고, 남대문 시장도 둘러보며 이국의 낯선 문화와 정서를 체험한다.

지은이는 광주민주화운동에 대해서 함께 분노를 느끼며, 아직도 해결되지 않은 채 남아 있는 위안부 문제 등에 대한 일본의 태도를 비판하고 당시 붐을 일으켰던 기생관광을 오는 일본인들을 조소한다.


목차


미친 여자(狂女)

나는 왜 한국을 이야기하는가

I

서울 동대문의 보에티우스

탈춤에서 마당극으로

 
II

박대통령이 암살되던 날

김치! 김치!

서울의 우아한 일본인

울고 잇는 여자

한국 사람이 좋아질 때

 
III

찬란한 아침의 나라에서

한국 여행에 대한 지나치게 조급한 추상

이두용 혹은 한국 영화에서의 신파와 쿵푸의 결합

가면의 교훈

최인호 혹은 자조의 연명에 대하여

현대 한국 문하의 고래잡이들 - 최인호·정일성·배창호 인터뷰

윤홍길 혹은 모욕적인 모친에 대하여

박흥용의 희망과 절망

한국에서 첫 일본 영화 상영에 참석하여

 
IV

김소운에 대한 추억

나는 어찌하여 일본어를 공부했는가

세번째 김소운

 
V

한국 영화와 만화로 보는 재일영웅 - 장본훈과 오야마 마스타츠

족보와 쵸쿠보 - 한국에서 영화화된 카지야마 토시유키

일본인은 어째서 재일(在日)이 되는가

 
작가 후기

해설 - '동시대'의 한국 우카이 사토시
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저자 및 역자소개
요모타 이누히코 (四方田犬彦) (지은이)

1953년생. 메이지가쿠인明治學院대학 교수로 오랫동안 영화학을 가르쳤고, 콜롬비아대학, 볼로냐대학, 중앙대학교(서울) 등에서 객원교수·연구원을 역임했다. 한국 관련 저서로 <우리가 ‘타자’인 한국われらが「他者」なる韓國>, <서울의 풍경―기억과 변모ソウルの風景―記憶と變貌> 등이 있다.


최근작 : <일본영화 전통과 전위의 역사>,<대화를 위해서>,<가와이이 제국 일본> … 총 107종 (모두보기)

양경미 (옮긴이)
1955년 서울 출생. 전문번역가이자 ‘됴한글 번역연구회’ 리더로 활동 중이며, 일본어 번역연구회 ‘아지사이(Ajisaii)’ 대표로 있다. 옮긴 책으로는 《라블레의 아이들》 《사무라이》 《태공망 1, 2, 3》 《진주부인 1, 2》 《우리의 타자가 되는 한국》 《천축으로 가는 좁은 길》 《하루가 떠나면》 《심리 경영》 《보딩 스쿨》 《하고 싶은 일을 시작하라》, 아동문학으로 《노란 코끼리》 《열한 살 인생수업》 《한 송이 꽃》 《내일의 바람》 외 다수가 있다.


최근작 : … 총 31종 (모두보기)
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요모타 이누히코(지은이)의 말

독자가 지금 들고 있는 이 책에는 아마도 여러 가지 사실과 다른 점이 있을지도 모른다. 그러나 그것은 어디까지나 외국인일 수밖에 없는 저자의 시각의 한계가 원인이 될 수도 있겠거니와 80년대라고 하는 집필 시기가 갖는 시대적 제약에도 그 원인이 있을 것이다. 하지만 나는 이번에 번역본을 펴내면서 그런 것들을 굳이 정정하려고 하지 않았다. 그 글들은 잘못된 판단도 포함되어 모두가 내가 그 당시 실제 피부로 느꼈던 체험이며 살아 있는 사고(思考)였기 때문이다.

*울고 있는 여자
머리카락에 모래를 끼얹으며 열심히 가슴을 쥐어뜯었던 저 여자는 자신의 감정을 온 몸의 육체적 운동을 통하여 표현하는 방법을 알고 있었다. 그것은 감상도 멸망의 미학도 아니다. 그것은 강도 높은 퍼포먼스이다. 그리고 이러한 순간과 맞딱뜨리게 되었을 때 사람은 새빨갛게 성이 난 종기와도 같은, 세계의 뜨거운 핵을 만지고 있는 것이다. 사람은 자신이 자기 동일성이 위태로워지는 지점에 이르게 되면 예상도 하지 않았던 ‘타자(他者)’를 만자게 되는 것이다. 내게 한국이란 거대한 타자의 집합이다.

*한국 사람이 좋아질 때
‘내가 졌다. 할 수 없다. 오늘은 휴강이다.’ 그 말을 듣자 학생들은 거미 새끼가 흩어지듯 교실 밖으로 나가버렸다. 한국 사람이 갑자지 좋아질 때는 이런 때이다. 그들의 강한 동료의식. 그리고 도리에 어긋난 일이라고 생각하면 그 대상이 권력자라 하더라도 자신의 의지를 굽히지 않는 강인함. 그것은 스승에 대한 예의를 다하는 행동과는 모순된 것이지만 실로 표리일체의 행동이다. 서울에서는 아주 사소한 행동을 마음을 훈훈하게 해줄 때가 종종 있다. 예를 들어, 만원 버스 안에서 서 있는 사람의 가방을 앉아 있는 사람이 자연스럽게 받아주는 것을 목격했을 때가 그렇다.



타자의 시선으로 본 타자의 메시지


이 책은 70년대 말에서 80년대로 넘어가는 시기에 한국에 잠시 머물렀던 저자의 눈에 비친 한국의 정치적 상황과 한국인의 정서와 문화 등을 회고하며 적은 글이다. 유신 말기의 대학가를 중심으로 벌어졌던 투석전과 최루탄으로 얼룩졌던 당시의 시대 상황, 대통령 암살 사건과 시민들의 반응, 광주 항쟁에 대한 외국인으로서 느끼는 충격과 분노 등.

또한 이 책은 이제는 우리에게는 잊혀지고 경시되어가는 지난 시절의 역사와 우리 문화의 가치들의 소중함을 일깨워주기도 한다. 한때는 우리에게 민족적 자긍심을 갖게했던 야구 선수 장훈 (장본훈)의 이야기며, 역도산에 관한 이야기, 그리고 일제의 압박에도 굴하지 않고 창씨개명에 응하지 않고 꼬장꼬장하게 자존심을 지켰던 영화 <족보>의 설노인에게서는 대쪽같은 우리의 선비 정신을 볼 수 있다.

그리고 그 당시의 우리 젊은이들에게는 저항 정신의 지주였다고 할 수 있는 시인 김지하의 이야기며 일본에서 더 많이 알려진 시인 김소운에 대한 평가의 글, 젊은 나이로 아깝게 생을 마친 하길종 감독에 대한 아쉬움과 당시의 젊은이들의 상을 대변하던 최인호의 <바보들의 행진> <병태와 영자>와 같은 영화를 보며 느꼈던 회고의 글에서는 한동안 잊고 지냈던 옛 시절을 돌아보게 한다. 물론 짧은 기간이라는 시간적인 제약때문일수도 있겠지만 조금은 수박 겉핥기 식의 한국보기 라는 점을 지적하지 않을 수 없으나 그럼에도 불구하고 이 책은 지금은 너무도 달라진 현 시대를 살고 있는 우리의 모습을 다시 한번 생각하게 한다.

아울러 이 책은 유신 말기의 암울했던 그 시절을 알지 못하는 젊은 세대에게는 기성 세대의 옛 모습을, 그리고 그 시절을 살아냈던 중년에 들어선 세대에게는 옛 추억을 상기시켜 주는 타인의 메시지와도 같은 책이라 할 수 있다.

김소운에 대한 추억 중에서...

'요모타 군이라고 했던가. 자네가 지금 있는 이 나라는 한국어로 어떻게 발음하나?'
'대한민국입니다. 선생님.'
'맞았네. 조금은 공부를 한 것 같군. 그럼 일본어로는 대한민국을 어떻게 읽지?'
'다이칸민코쿠'
'아하하, 자네도 역시 틀렸네. 그건 아니야. 하긴 자네와 같은 젊은 세대는 알 수 없을걸세. 원래 일본어에서는 대 (大)라고 하는 한자는 읽는 법이 두 가지 인데 '타이'와 '다이'는 엄밀하게 구분되어 쓰이지. 육체적으로나 물질적으로나 아무리 적고 빈약해도 그 정신적인 것만큼은 탁월한 경우에는 타이, 반대로 정신적으로는 타락했는데 영토와 질량이 거대한 경우는 다이, 라고 읽는다네. 그런 이유로 대한민국이라는 아시아의 자그만 반도는 '타이칸민코쿠'라고 발음해야 하네.'
'(아연하여)...'
'말이 나온 김에 한마디 더 할까. 해가 지지 않는 나라라는 대영제국 (大英帝國)은 '다이에이테이코쿠'이며 대일본제국 (大日本帝國) 역시 '다이닛뽕테이코쿠'라고 발음하지.' (이하 생략)


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요모타 이누히코, 박유하를 변호하다
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http://theacro.com/zbxe/5339500
2017.07.07 12:36:36
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시사

http://parkyuha.org/archives/5344

위안부이슈는 여성주의 시각의 담론을 널리 알릴 필요가 있어요. 어느 한 문단 빠뜨릴 게 없이 글이 좋네요. 그 중 한국가부장문화의 부끄러운 자화상은 극렬히 비판받아야 함.

한국에서는 1970년대부터 80년에 걸쳐, 몇 편의 위안부 영화가 제작되었다. 1974년 시점에서 나봉한 감독(불명)에 의해『여자 정신대』라는 작품이 촬영되었다. 필름은 남아있지 않고, 영화연구가인 최성구 씨가 최근 발굴한 신문광고를 통해서만 간신히 그 존재를 알 수 있을 뿐이다. 영어 제목을 Bloody sex라 하며「위안부 8만명의 통곡. 영화 역사상 최대의 충격을 가진 문제의 대하 드라마」라는 선전문구가 기재되어있다. 박정희 군사정권 하에서는 여성의 나체를 포함한 에로틱한 영화표현은 엄격한 검열 대상이였다. 때문에 제작자와 감독은 일본군은 역사적 만행을 규탄한다는 도덕적 구실 아래, 에로틱한 묘사를 듬뿍 담은 필름을 제작한다는 발상을 했다. 한국인에 의한 강간장면은 안 되지만, 일본의 광기의 군대가 강간을 한다면 역사적 사실로써 표상이 용서받는다는 한국인의 민족감정을 역으로 이용한 제작 자세를 알 수 있다.

내가 실제로 한국의 극장에서 볼 수 있었던 위안부 영화는 이상언감독의 『종군위안부』다. 1980년대 초반 일이었다. 이 감독은 야구선수 장훈의 다큐멘터리 영화를 찍은 사람으로, 필모그래피를 참고하면, 아마도 소재를 고르지 않고 주문에 따라 감독하는 사람인 듯하다. 『종군위안부』는 호평이었기 때문에 시리즈화 되었다고 들었다. 제작의도는 『여자 정신대』의 연장선상에 있다. 조선인의 무고한 처녀들이 납치되어 위안소에 갇혀, 밤낮으로 일본군인에게 강간당한다. 그러나 영화 도중부터는 일본인 병사라는 사실은 아무래도 좋은 것이 되면서, 단순한 남녀의 성행위만이 몇 번이고 이어진다. 이러한 영화가 한국에서 사회적으로 규탄당하지 않고, 당당하게 제작된 것은, 아마도 위안부 문제에 관여하는 지식인들이 자국의 영화라는 미디어를 철저히 경시하여, 그 존재를 모르거나, 학문적 대상으로 논할 가치가 없다고 경시하였기 때문일 것이다.
http://www.dbpia.co.kr/Journal/ArticleDetail/NODE01597808

2009년 3월 8일, 일본군 ‘위안부’의 명예와 인권을 위한 <전쟁과여성 인권박물관>의 착공식이 서대문 독립공원에서 거행되었다. 그러나 서울 시로부터 박물관의 사업 인가를 받고 착공식을 했음에도 불구하고, 독립 유공자단체의 반대와 비용 부족 등의 이유로 끝내 공사가 진행되지 못했다(국민일보, 2010년 8월 11일자). 광복회를 비롯한 독립유공자단체는 기자회견을 통해 독립공원 내에 ‘위안부’ 기념관을 건립하는 것은 “독립 운동을 폄하시키는 것으로 순국선열에 대한 명예훼손”이라고 주장하였다(국민일보, 2008년 11월 3일자). 여기에서 독립유공자단체의 가부장적인 시각을 일일이 지적할 여유는 없지만, 이 논쟁이 던지는 의미는 곱씹어 볼 필요가 있다.

다시 요모타 이누히코 씨의 <박유하를 변호하다>로 돌아가면 이런 단락도 나와요.

박유하는「제국의 위안부」마지막 부분에서 정창화가 1965년에 감독한 『사르빈강에 노을이 진다 』라는 영화에 대해 언급하고 있다. 이 책 중 영화에 대한 언급이 있는 유일한 곳이다. 무대는 미얀마의 일본군 주둔지이다. 조선인 위안부 여성이, 그녀가 배치된 「친일파」학도병 장교에게 말을 건다. 자신은 간호사가 된다고 듣고 이 곳에 속아서 왔다. 당신은 아직 일본제국주의가 신사적이라고 믿고 있는가라고 그녀는 말한다. 이 장면으로부터 판명되는 것은, 영화가 제작된 1960년대에는 한국인은 위안부를 둘러싼 90년대에 확립된 공식적 기억과는 다른 기억을 가지고 있었다는 사실이다. 이 위안부는 모든 비참함의 근원에 일본제국주의가 존재한다는 사실은 충분히 인식하고 있었지만, 자신이 이곳에 있는 것은 강제연행의 결과가 아니라고 주장하고 있는 것이다. 『사르빈강에 노을이 진다』는 (오늘날, 「예술적 영화」범주 안에 들지 못했기 때문에 한국의 영화연구가가 이에 대해 언급하는 일은 없지만) 이렇게 강제연행의 신화가 집합적 기억으로서 인위적으로 형성되기 이전의, 일반한국인의 역사인식을 알기 위한 귀중한 자료로 존재하고 있다.


저도 고작 몇 년 전에는 위안부할머니들의 서사는 일본경찰이 백주대낮에 한국 소녀들을 강제로 연행해가는 풍경이라고 생각했거든요. 그치만 박유하의 <제국의 위안부> 논란 때문에 좀 더 실재한 사실에 근접하게 됐던 거예요. 저만 무지한 거라고 생각했는데 요모타 이누히코 씨가 상위의 단락에서처럼 직접적인 강제연행이 아니라 간호사가 될 줄 알고 취업했다가 위안부로 전락하고 만 에피소드를 한국영화에서 발견한 것만으로도 진실한 역사인식이 존재했음을 증명하는 거라며 반색하는 모습을 보니 정대협은 그동안 무슨 일을 벌인건가...라는 생각도 들어요. 정대협의 주장이 그렇게 일방적으로 극단적이기만 했나요. 이거는 제가 잘 모르는 부분이에요. 그것이 사실이라면 과연 정대협의 치열했던 정치성이 '온전히' 할머니들을 위한 것이었다고 할 수 있나 싶어요.
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2017.07.08 14:40:18
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"한국의 진보 미술계는 미술의 인문주의와 보편성으로부터 너무 멀리 떨어져 있다. 이들이 말하는 진보, 이들이 공감하고 눈물을 흘리는 인간의 비극은 민족주의의 틀을 넘어서지 못한다. 하지만 우리가 현대미술사에서 확인할 수 있는 것은 미술이 언제나 기존의 인식과 관념을 깨뜨리면서 나아가는 것 아니었던가. 그런 점에서 한국의 진보 미술은 현대적이지도 않고 진보적이지도 않다. 결국 한국 진보 미술의 과제는 민족주의라는 한국 좌파 일반의 굴레를 벗어나는 것이다. 한국 미술의 진보는 이러한 의식의 개혁과 함께 이루어져야 한다. 그런 점에서 민족주의에 의해 침윤된 일면적 피해 서사의 조형물로서의 소녀상의 극복은 민족주의 예술관으로부터 벗어나 인문주의 예술관으로 나아가는 길에 있다고 생각한다. 그것만이 한국의 진보 미술이 진정 진보적으로 되는 길이라고 믿는다."

-최 범, '소녀상과 한국 미술계의 의식구조',
<'위안부' 동원과 재현의 정치학> 심포지엄(7월 1일) 발표 원고 중에서

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전 소녀상이 예술작품이라는 생각을 미처 못하고 있었는데 조형물이니까 예술품이 맞네요. 역시 예술하는 분들이 사고가 많이 열려 있고 자유로와요.


2017.07.08 20:00:00
에밀졸라

사실 우리가 알고 있는 일제시대는 한쪽만 과장된 역사죠
식민 지배를 받았던 나라에서 어쩔 수 없는 부분도 있지만 진보가 그것을 이용한다는 것은 아이러니죠

일본의 식민지배 시대에 한국사람의 평균 수명 유아사망율 교육등이 엄청나게 발전했다는 것은 실증적인 사실이죠
그리고 일본이 조선에 엄청난 투자를 했고 실제 총독부 건물이나 서울역사 그리고 공립학교를 보면 당시 일본보다 별로 뒤떨어지지도 않죠
또 조선을 다른 여타 식민지 국가와는 다르게 취급하고 대우도 일본사람 다음으로 했고 판검사 도지사 군수등을 조선사람으로 임용한 사례는 다른 제국주의 국가의 사례에서는 찾아보기가 힘들죠
그렇다고 일본에게 고마워해야하느냐 아니죠
그건 조선을 영구지배하기위한 투자의 개념이니까요


위안부 역시 여러가지 형태였죠
그중 하나를 가지고 일본 우익은 자발적인 매춘이거나 상인들의 행위이다라고 하는 것이고
그런데 한국전쟁때 월남전때도 군인 상대로 매춘은 있고 그것은 당국의 보호를 받았죠
물론 일본군처럼 야만적이거나 강제적이지는 않았죠


저는 고노 담화로 한일간 과거사는 정리 되었고 우리 정부가 그걸 빌미로 일본과 관계 악화를 하는건 반대입니다,
그냥 일본의 공식입장은 고노담화처럼 일본 정부가 스스로 조사해서 강제성 인권유린이 있었다고 했으니 그걸 공식결론으로하고
여타 망언이나 행동에 대해서는 개인의 일탈로 치부하고 고노담화 공문을 발송하는 것으로 끝내야하는데
일본 우익도 그렇고 우리 좌파도 그렇고 정부도 그렇고 국내 정치에 이용을 하죠
위안부 할머니들은 진즉에 우리 정부가 챙겨서 충분한 보상을 했어야 하는 일이고 지금이라도 그렇게 해야 일본이 돈 몇푼으로 장난질을 치지 않죠
저는 식민지 시대 과거사나 위안부에 있어 일본보다 우리 정부의 처리가 더 못마땅합니다,
한마디로 빌미를 주고 어리석은 대응을 하고 있는 것이죠